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I hesitated to pass the link on because there is an element of antisemitism in its message, but the number of groups reported on is so huge that some of the information may be worthwhile. I can't vouch for the quality of the information, just the quantity.<BR/><BR/>For instance I never heard of Pilgrims Society, 1001 Nature Trust/Club or LeCercle. If you ever heard of Octopus, Brotherhood or Borman Organization, you'll probably find something about the group here.<BR/><BR/>http://www.isgp.eu/AppendixA.htm<BR/><BR/>DorothyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-26083528498050526002008-08-14T22:10:00.000-04:002008-08-14T22:10:00.000-04:00ORGANIZATIONS GALOREToday I came across this lefti...ORGANIZATIONS GALORE<BR/>Today I came across this leftist website with its list of establishment organizations. I hesitated to pass the link on because there is an element of antisemitism in its message, but the number of groups reported on is so huge that some of the information may be worthwhile. I can't vouch for the quality of the information, just the quantity.<BR/><BR/>For instance I never heard of Pilgrims Society, 1001 Nature Trust/Club or LeCercle. If you ever heard of Octopus, Brotherhood or Borman Organization, you'll probably find something about the group here.<BR/><BR/>http://www.isgp.eu/AppendixA.htm<BR/><BR/>DorothyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-70068189634108966232008-08-14T20:40:00.000-04:002008-08-14T20:40:00.000-04:00You're welcome Rudi, K....offline a lot for comput...You're welcome Rudi, K....offline a lot for computer repairs. I'll catch up more in a couple of days.<BR/><BR/>JoyceAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-57680899472057427162008-08-14T19:25:00.000-04:002008-08-14T19:25:00.000-04:00Thank You very much Rudi - I'll be following throu...Thank You very much Rudi - I'll be following through on all the links you've supplied. <BR/><BR/>---<BR/><BR/>Joyce - those 'orbs' things are weird. There's a TV program over here called 'Most Haunted' where a team of investigators go and visit alleged haunted locations. They always manage to capture some 'orbs' on their footage - they're something that people seem to get VERY excited about. Sadly, the program has pretty much popularised a lot of occult stuff and has quite a cult following ... ouija, table tipping, mirror gazing (sorry I forget what they call it exactly), spirit guides, writing, etc, etc.<BR/><BR/>I notice that William Bloom is/was a Findhorn guy. He's also tied in with the 'Alternatives Program' in London. <BR/><BR/>Nina Grunfeld the founder of 'Life Clubs' also gives/is giving workshops at Alternatives.<BR/>http://www.alternatives.org.uk/Site/EventDescription.aspx?EventID=602<BR/><BR/>or<BR/><BR/>http://tinyurl.com/6fgs4h<BR/><BR/>Nina is quite ambitious in her plans for her 'Life Clubs' as she said in an interview, "It came to me one day when I was looking at the McDonald's sign," she says. "I thought, that's what I want: a presence on every street corner."<BR/><BR/>Full interview;<BR/>http://tinyurl.com/5e36yp<BR/><BR/>I'm reading Constances's second book at the moment and am particularly struck by how well (that sounds odd writing the word 'well')the goal as mentioned by David Spangler to make the NA disappear through 'cultural integration' is advancing. It is most certainly mainstream in the UK.<BR/><BR/>~K~Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-29114912496787923892008-08-14T18:54:00.000-04:002008-08-14T18:54:00.000-04:00Bush's and Moon slither alot including business.W ...Bush's and Moon slither alot including business.<BR/><BR/>W has 100,000 acres next to Moons, remember? <BR/><BR/>MaggieAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-68956406869487703062008-08-14T16:19:00.000-04:002008-08-14T16:19:00.000-04:00Hi ~K~, You asked,“Does anyone know if this subver...Hi ~K~, You asked,<BR/>“Does anyone know if this subversion of our Holy scriptures is a 'new' focus of NA teaching, as in the quote, there is reference to 'recent developments'?”<BR/><BR/>I won’t pretend to understand the “details” in any depth but because I don’t believe in coincidence; what we are “observers” of, is a step by step implementation of a very intricate, demonically outlined Plan. There is an actual “Plan” to be advanced, "to precede and condition the new age."<BR/> I’ll leave it to Constance to do the in depth explaining, but as far as your question about the use of Holy Scripture and it’s use to blend the Ancient Wisdom Teaching with Christian doctrines of faith - the concept as in Theosophy (one of many groups that use some Christian terminology in their<BR/>“Teachings”) is a segment of the blending which has been taking place for a LONG time, but only recently have the Ancient Wisdom Teachings been brought forth publically and presented on a global scale, over mainstream media, and through very public “New” emerging "religious" Teachers. It is the Evangelization for the The New World Religion "part" of the overall Plan. I expect to see an even greater emphasis on this in the next few years, especially as the "religious" holiday season comes around again. You can read more about this in this 2008 newsletter on "The Three Spiritual Festivals" on The Lucis Trust Website at the following link:<BR/> <BR/>http://tinyurl.com/664bn4<BR/><BR/>http://www.lucistrust.org/<BR/>en/meetings_and_events/<BR/>three_major_spiritual_festivals/<BR/>three_spiritual_festivals_2008_letter<BR/><BR/>What Alice Bailey referred to as, <BR/><BR/>...“the great paralleling truth of God Immanent--divinely "pervading" all forms, conditioning from within all kingdoms in nature, expressing innate divinity through human beings and--two thousand years ago--portraying the nature of that divine Immanence in the Person of the Christ.”...<BR/><BR/> Our Living Lord called, changing the TRUTH into a LIE. The preceeding quotation is from a booklet written by Alice A.Bailey,<BR/>"The Reappearance of the Christ"<BR/> <BR/> http://tinyurl.com/2shxpf<BR/><BR/>http://www.lucistrust.org/<BR/>en/meetings_and_events/<BR/>three_major_spiritual_festivals/<BR/>the_christ_s_festival/<BR/>the_reappearance_of_the_christ_<BR/>booklet<BR/><BR/>There are many, many, other new age spirituality “mirror images” (like a photographic negative) of Truth being exchanged for VERY DECEPTIVE lies. An example would be “ Five Phases of Harvesting” which is an obvious attempt to equate Jesus’ “Parable of the Sower” to the New Age Art of Harvesting. Another Spirit, Another Gospel, Another Jesus. -Rudi <BR/><BR/>http://tinyurl.com/5qaj9h<BR/><BR/><BR/>http://www.artofhosting.org/<BR/>thepractice/artofharvesting/<BR/><BR/>“There is no new thing under the sun..” <BR/>Ecc. 1:9<BR/><BR/>“But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ. For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.” 2 Corinthians 11:3-4Rudihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02790452739588756078noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-84969755671621931852008-08-14T16:12:00.000-04:002008-08-14T16:12:00.000-04:00Dorothy,Just read your long post at top. In 1988 t...Dorothy,<BR/><BR/>Just read your long post at top. <BR/><BR/>In 1988 the New Agers controlled the area where I lived in Seattle and bragged they controlled the states as they were everywhere in every community. <BR/><BR/>I thought is was pretty amazing at the time but didn't doubt their home control. (thanks to Connie's info.)<BR/><BR/>Still think it's the bankers as they who control the money control the people. BUT they are all unsaved and on Satan's side, so they are working together and their purpose is the same to damage and destroy after all they're following him to hell. <BR/><BR/>Without God's protection and being in control think where we would be? When God does let sin have it's way I'm glad I will not be here to see the carnage. <BR/><BR/>Thanks, MaggieAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-79155927272057507672008-08-14T15:13:00.000-04:002008-08-14T15:13:00.000-04:00http://blogs.ft.com/brusselsblog/2008/07/sarkozy-b...http://blogs.ft.com/brusselsblog/2008/07/sarkozy-bounces-back/<BR/><BR/>I watched an interview with his wife and she is not someone I would want to meet in a dark street and they are a matched set. <BR/><BR/>Need I say more? It's the 'eyes' and slickness, shudder. <BR/><BR/>MaggieAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-25132937035159650402008-08-14T12:32:00.000-04:002008-08-14T12:32:00.000-04:00Hi JoyceThank you for all the informative links y...Hi Joyce<BR/>Thank you for all the informative links you’ve provided. The networking<BR/>intertwines not only with Ervin Laszio but many others who are high level<BR/>“agents of change” working throughout society as a whole. The Great Mystery link to the Prophets Conference took me back to the site of its originator, The Great Rethinking. A viewing of the partial listing (63 members listed) of the faculty for The Great Rethinking is a virtual “who’s- who” to anyone even a little bit familiar with the New Age Movement and its key players. Ervin Laszlo, Barbara Marx Hubbard, Elisabet Sahtouris, and Edgar Mitchell to name but a few. The FAQs page at The Great Rethinking site begins its answer to the question, “Are these 'new age' events?”, with the words, “No, we are not focused on 'New Age' anything…” For those who believe that, I’ve got a bridge I’d like<BR/>to… <BR/><BR/>FAQs<BR/><BR/>http://www.greatmystery.org<BR/>/faq.html<BR/><BR/> Partial Faculty List <BR/><BR/>http://www.greatmystery.org<BR/>/faculty.html <BR/><BR/>Reviewing this material brought me back to last January when we were discussing the “Rethink Conference” held at Robert Schuller’s Crystal Cathedral whose speakers list raised many questions for some of us. (DVDs/CDs of the event are now available if you have $100-$150 burning a whole in your pocket). <BR/>-Rudi<BR/><BR/>http://www.rethinkconference.com<BR/>/content/view/9/11/Rudihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02790452739588756078noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-44073412953404653252008-08-13T20:41:00.000-04:002008-08-13T20:41:00.000-04:00ESOTERIC CHRISTIANITY!The Theosophical Society in ...ESOTERIC CHRISTIANITY!<BR/><BR/>The Theosophical Society in America has an upcoming conference "Mystical Heart of Christianity: Moving Beyond Literalism".<BR/><BR/>Conference intro plus a mention of Sophia;<BR/>http://tinyurl.com/67z5r7<BR/>Speakers;<BR/>http://tinyurl.com/65vh47<BR/><BR/>The Theosophical Society UK has weekly 'Christian' based courses too at it's Retreat Centre at Tekels Park;<BR/>http://tinyurl.com/6mp2fw<BR/><BR/>Findhorn have some of their own brand Christianity teaching on offer too!<BR/><BR/>Restoring the Fragmented God: A Healing Voyage into Christian Shamanism<BR/><BR/>http://tinyurl.com/6hhzrh<BR/><BR/>Christian Shamanism ... Esoteric Christianity ... these are not words that sit comfortably together. According to the Retreat Society at Tekels Park, "In the light of what is written above, it is already clear perhaps that we do look to recent developments in the area of Buddhist-Christian exchange."<BR/>http://www.retreatsociety.org.uk/faq.html<BR/><BR/>Does anyone know if this subversion of our Holy scriptures is a 'new' focus of NA teaching, as in the quote, there is reference to 'recent developments'?<BR/><BR/>Sorry for more questions from me, you folks are far more knowledgeable on this NA stuff than I am ... but little by little I'm learning from y'all - thanks. :)<BR/><BR/>~K~Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-41813231436374872822008-08-13T13:48:00.000-04:002008-08-13T13:48:00.000-04:00LIFE CLUBS - UKhttp://lifeclubs.co.uk/I came acros...LIFE CLUBS - UK<BR/><BR/>http://lifeclubs.co.uk/<BR/><BR/>I came across details of new 'Life Clubs' opening up across the UK. Nina Grunfeld is the founder of these and has written two books; "The Big Book of Me - Become Your Own Life Coach" and "The Big Book of Us - Creating the relationship you want". Nina has column space in the national press and also runs Life Club Sessions for Corporates, Council Help Services and Charities.<BR/><BR/>http://lifeclubs.co.uk/pages/show?name=corporate<BR/><BR/>http://lifeclubs.co.uk/pages/show?title=charitable%20organisations<BR/><BR/>One of the "Life Clubs" meets weekly at Tekels Park - Camberley = Tekels Park is a wooded estate, owned by the Theosophical Society in England.<BR/><BR/>http://www.tekelspark.co.uk/<BR/>html/index.html<BR/><BR/>My question is - does anyone know anything about these 'Life Clubs' - are they happening in the USA? One if not more of the life coaches have been trained in the US at the Coaches Training Institute.<BR/><BR/>Thanks for any help anyone can offer ... I don't know how significant this is but listed amongst the corporates that LC reach out to are the Liberal Democrats, the National Health Service and Telegraph Media Group.<BR/><BR/>~K~Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-39601771343560716232008-08-13T11:28:00.000-04:002008-08-13T11:28:00.000-04:00Things get weirder by the minute:http://www.greatm...Things get weirder by the minute:<BR/><BR/>http://www.greatmystery.org/nl/wbloom.html<BR/><BR/>These are all linked to earlier links...<BR/>JoyceAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-85519984846308254062008-08-13T10:39:00.000-04:002008-08-13T10:39:00.000-04:00Anon 2:44 AM(Don't you sleep?)Thanks for the link ...Anon 2:44 AM<BR/><BR/>(Don't you sleep?)<BR/><BR/>Thanks for the link to Berit’s excellent commentary on the Olympics. <BR/><BR/>Here’s a tiny url link for those who may have missed it.<BR/><BR/>http://tinyurl.com/6npflc<BR/><BR/><BR/>So I got to thinking, what’s so evil about “bread and circuses”? <BR/><BR/>The answer: absolutely nothing! <BR/><BR/>I’ve played and/or coached and been a huge fan of basketball for most of my life. There’s (almost) nothing I enjoy more than seeing Labron, Kobe, Dwight or D Wayne throw a dunk down on the Russians.<BR/><BR/> Despite all the pagan overtones, the controversies over corrupt judges, doping issues, ugly politics creeping in, etc.. I don't feel guilty for enjoying the Olympics at all. I came across this essay by one Mark Davis that pretty well sums up my view.<BR/><BR/>http://tinyurl.com/572zqcAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-18068079471176414052008-08-13T09:29:00.000-04:002008-08-13T09:29:00.000-04:00This is indirectly from Damanhur's site too:http:/...This is indirectly from Damanhur's site too:<BR/><BR/>http://www.consciousmedianetwork.com/home.htm<BR/><BR/><BR/>JoyceAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-13115174661686650832008-08-13T09:26:00.000-04:002008-08-13T09:26:00.000-04:00Wisdom University is now being held at Damahur. Th...Wisdom University is now being held at Damahur. The Chartes Mystery School is also on their site. <BR/><BR/>http://www.damanhur.org/<BR/><BR/>Laszlo is part of Damanhur.<BR/><BR/>Posting this at Bjorn Famer's site too.<BR/><BR/>JoyceAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-82352158028766654492008-08-13T08:46:00.000-04:002008-08-13T08:46:00.000-04:00Hi Constance,Just want to make it clear that I agr...Hi Constance,<BR/><BR/>Just want to make it clear that I agree with you completely about idolatry, and the fact that those items did not belong in the exhibit. I was just trying to explain why some curator might have thought they should be there (i.e. how they might be connected to the vatican)<BR/><BR/>We have no disagreement here. I actually could have said much of what you just said, but I didn't want to start what might be perceived as another 'Catholic bashing' session.<BR/><BR/>PD and YGAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-17863386293704290722008-08-13T03:05:00.000-04:002008-08-13T03:05:00.000-04:00Return of the Fairness Doctrine coulod control web...Return of the Fairness Doctrine coulod control web content too:<BR/><BR/>http://www.businessandmedia.org/articles/2008/20080812160747.aspxAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-62433498915807515922008-08-13T02:44:00.000-04:002008-08-13T02:44:00.000-04:00Berit Kjos' commentary on the Olympics:http://www....Berit Kjos' commentary on the Olympics:<BR/><BR/>http://www.crossroad.to/articles2/08/1-olympics.htmAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-77320199539752803992008-08-13T01:17:00.000-04:002008-08-13T01:17:00.000-04:00Constance,Well, I'm encouraged that you are encour...Constance,<BR/><BR/>Well, I'm encouraged that you are encouraged! :-)<BR/><BR/>I've been fighting a tangential war with those caught up in the fringes of charismania on other blogs. I was introduced to false teachings by a used-to-be friend who cut off communication when she found out I did not buy into her theology (sound familiar?).<BR/><BR/>Since then I've been posting comments on a few blogs and recently posted a few articles on another blog at the blog writer's suggestion. One was on the fallacy of International House of Prayer's (IHOP) Tabernacle of David teaching and the other was on Todd Bentley's intitiation, er, "ordination" ceremony.<BR/><BR/>I've been reading Alice Bailey's <I>From Bethlehem to Calvary</I> in an attempt to find references to the Manifest Sons of God heresy permeating charismania in order to refute it in an article. Interestingly, I found this quote on page 20 of the paperback:<BR/><I>“Christianity will not be superseded. It will be transcended, its work of preparation being triumphantly accomplished, and Christ will again give us the next revelation of divinity.</I><BR/><BR/>I find this interesting in light of IHOP's Mike Bickle's 'prophetic word' while in Egypt in 1983, "The face of Christianity will change in one generation."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-15927686419614234512008-08-12T22:54:00.000-04:002008-08-12T22:54:00.000-04:00To Lee,Thanks! I found your words very encouragin...To Lee,<BR/><BR/>Thanks! I found your words very encouraging. It has been a long nasty war and hearing stories like yours makes me know it has all been worth it!<BR/><BR/>ConstanceConstance Cumbeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07181096121385621574noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-29673448311730158752008-08-12T22:48:00.000-04:002008-08-12T22:48:00.000-04:00Paintdancer,You may be right in your observations,...Paintdancer,<BR/><BR/>You may be right in your observations, but the inclusion of these items is no less offensive. The Scriptures are VERY CLEAR: Those who worship Idols worship devils -- this was set forth in the Psalms -- eloquently reiterated in Fr. Seraphim Rose's brilliant book.<BR/><BR/>For Christians, 1 Corinithians, Chapter 10 set forth the perimeters.<BR/><BR/>I believe that the whole word lapsed back into idolatry after God saved Noah and his family out of the flood. There are two many flood legends in too many cultures to deny the reality of that event! My personal opinion is that the manifestations to pagans / oriental cultures / were demons evoked by the fresh idolatry and the became memorialized in the culture.<BR/><BR/>I agree with Carrie on this one, but thanks for your thoughtful post! We may have to agree to disagree on this one.<BR/><BR/>ConstanceConstance Cumbeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07181096121385621574noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-39849581966979770342008-08-12T22:39:00.000-04:002008-08-12T22:39:00.000-04:00Young Grasshopper, I think I acquired that Mary S...Young Grasshopper, I think I acquired that Mary Summer Rain book PHOENIX RISING in the 1980s -- might have been 1990s, but I think it was earlier. I'll have to look around.<BR/><BR/>ConstanceConstance Cumbeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07181096121385621574noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-85800470032597073582008-08-12T22:34:00.000-04:002008-08-12T22:34:00.000-04:00Now I see where I made my error -- the sermon was ...Now I see where I made my error -- the sermon was COPYRIGHT Feb. 2008 by Vineyard.<BR/><BR/>Well, at least they've put it out there -- now, if only they would live by it!<BR/><BR/>ConstanceConstance Cumbeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07181096121385621574noreply@blogger.com