tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post5020512269468555937..comments2024-03-28T16:55:05.098-04:00Comments on My perspective -- What Constance thinks: JAVIER SOLANA: "Effective GLOBAL GOVERNANCE must be the goal of humanity TODAY"Constance Cumbeyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07181096121385621574noreply@blogger.comBlogger100125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-47756775361370613692011-08-14T10:33:13.623-04:002011-08-14T10:33:13.623-04:00I really hope she starts a blog. At least we won&#...I really hope she starts a blog. At least we won't see endless Solana garbage and have to compromise with anti-semitism and the New Age view of Allah like we do here.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-40416739109401937072011-08-14T00:27:09.493-04:002011-08-14T00:27:09.493-04:00I for one miss Dorothy. She kept things lively he...I for one miss Dorothy. She kept things lively here!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-11301370695176719162011-08-12T03:01:41.973-04:002011-08-12T03:01:41.973-04:00I've read your comments. Thank you for your c...I've read your comments. Thank you for your concern. Over the years I've answered the questions many times. There is no need for debate. In the future I'm sure you will learn all that is important to you from Constance.Dorothynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-11985651119837005442011-08-11T23:33:48.295-04:002011-08-11T23:33:48.295-04:00Re Dorothy,
Raised Catholic, converted to Judaism...Re Dorothy,<br /><br />Raised Catholic, converted to Judaism, "one foot in each camp." Maybe Dorothy has more in common with Joyce than she thinks! Say, a "Messianic Jewish Catholic"?<br /><br />As the Catholics clearly affirm Jesus is Dorothy with Him or Against Him????<br /><br />Curious lurking observerAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-23231978173278141802011-08-11T23:24:33.773-04:002011-08-11T23:24:33.773-04:00Calling people "Jew Hating Christians" w...Calling people "Jew Hating Christians" was what Dorothy was doing to Joyce who with her husband practiced Messianic Judaism. Constance was very unhappy that Joyce was in effect chased off the blogspot, even though she obviously had her own quarrels with Joyce about the length and sometimes tone of some of her posts.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-55713214113350479602011-08-11T20:49:41.322-04:002011-08-11T20:49:41.322-04:00Shock! I had not read this newest blog before bec...Shock! I had not read this newest blog before becoming embroiled in controversy on the penultimate blog post and comments. I can't believe the horrible accusations here. It was like my husband's family calling us "Jew Hating Christians" when Irv left the New Age and returned to the Christianity of his youth. Irv's daughter was a convert to Judaism, and very very hostile to both her father and me when we became serious Christians. We lost our family and our friends.<br />This is serious meltdown here. We need the Lord. We are unable to resolve these hideous arguments. They are inspired by the Devil.<br /><br />MarielAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-70718319103308853432011-08-09T20:00:23.628-04:002011-08-09T20:00:23.628-04:00Dorothy, having been raised in the Catholic world,...Dorothy, having been raised in the Catholic world, how could you have ever given Jesus up?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-46101688681540068532011-08-09T16:12:29.117-04:002011-08-09T16:12:29.117-04:00Who in the world do you think I am? LOL
Your enti...Who in the world do you think I am? LOL<br /><br />Your entire post is directed at someone you obviously have mistaken me for.<br /><br />Whatever your issue is you have with them I suggest you contact them and not bother me with your personal grudges with other people.<br /><br />I never made my educational background the force of anything. You attempted to do so, and now you erect a strawman that you want me to indulge you in. Keep attacking windmills my friend. Cumbey's words indict her very well on their own. <br /><br />You exemplify the sycophantic behavior I mentioned before. You just put a more arrogant, pseudo-intellectual mask over it. I am not impressed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-23589990913173333712011-08-09T13:45:32.656-04:002011-08-09T13:45:32.656-04:00Anonymous 9:02,
Please tell us the name of the In...Anonymous 9:02,<br /><br />Please tell us the name of the Institution where you studied your "Doctorate of Divinity Studies". Was it even accredited?<br /><br />If you are going to use your authority as the basis of your argument, at least let us know where you gained your knowledge.<br /><br />More likely, you found a belief system and a church where you have a certain amount of authority. After you were offended by Constance a year ago, you are looking for every chance to attack her. <br /><br />You think, "no one attacks me for I know the truth as God gave it to me." The reality is that your personality disorders have deluded your thinking. <br /><br />Your attacks are not about theology, as you do not have an analytical mind. Rather, they are to punish Constance for challenging some of the beliefs that you memorized at your particular cult correspondence course "doctorate" program.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-89451080721138198902011-08-09T11:53:58.034-04:002011-08-09T11:53:58.034-04:00Anonymous 10:42
I have a Doctorate in Divinity St...Anonymous 10:42<br /><br />I have a Doctorate in Divinity Studies with an emphasis on world religion and religious culture. Your petty attempts to disregard my comments with regard to Cumbey's New Age beliefs regarding Allah and Islam are nothing more than empty rhetoric and juvenile insult.<br /><br />Constance is promoting a New Age idea with regard to Islam. Period. Additionally, she is passively supporting anti-semitism by remaining on the network she has.<br /><br />People such as yourself lending her some very weak apologetic are doing her no good.<br /><br />She is in violation of the orthodox theological principles of Christianity. Full stop.<br /><br />Dorothy should start a blog so that people are no longer misled by Cumbey's subtle New Age leanings or drawn to listen to the anti-semitic pablum on her network. And Constance, Dorothy isn't to blame for your increasing isolation. Your New Age error and pride are. You've listened to your sycophants too long. You react as if you are above reproach. <br /><br />I pray you will find humility.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-31527576596722504002011-08-09T11:43:50.450-04:002011-08-09T11:43:50.450-04:00Constance, last comment. You made what is going o...Constance, last comment. You made what is going on very clear when you commented about Raapana and compared her with me. <br /><br />Raapana and others you have supported can do and have done much damage to Jews and that community. The effects of their actions are long term as they turn others against Catholics and Jews in the same way as the New Age community has done. <br /><br />As I have an extended Polish Catholic family and converted to a belief in Judaism many years ago, I have a foot in each community and have an understanding of both belief systems. Anyone who attacks them attacks me. Anyone who supports antisemitism or takes an anti-Catholic position is not some neutral academic looking to find truth in the world. There is a big difference between a search for truth and ugly, untruthful accusations. Some people know that. <br /><br />You aren't bothered by the damage these people do as much as you are bothered by a criticism of your actions.<br /><br />Yes, there was a similarity between what I was told you were saying by our mutual friends in the Kansas area and what was in the very detailed Ron Miller newsletters. They were having you out there to speak. Enough that I told them about the newsletters and called the station. I hadn't read the information on the same occult sources elsewhere. Those newsletters were blatantly antisemitic. As I have written elsewhere, I've made it a point to check things out as much as I can and that includes reading what the Jew hating community puts out. <br /><br />It turned out that your research and his were used differently, but I couldn't tell that as I was only given your name and what you were to talk about from those friends. I didn't want the Christian television station to be suckered in and I didn't want my friends to be suckered in. There was enough of that going on and is still going on.<br /><br />I sent you copies of all of the Ron Miller newsletters.<br /><br />And as Paul Harvey used to say...that's the rest of the story.<br /><br />And no, Constance, you didn't come to my defense on the blog. You attacked me for exposing some lying individuals, saying that I chased them away. There were others involved in exposing those creeps who remember what went on.Dorothynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-48482783058326535462011-08-09T10:42:28.086-04:002011-08-09T10:42:28.086-04:00Anonymous 9:02,
No one is attacking you for wanti...Anonymous 9:02,<br /><br />No one is attacking you for wanting to follow the fundamentals of truth.<br /><br />Rather, I am saying that you do not have the necessary education to understand the correct premise. It has been popular for seventy years or so for uneducated men to use bullying tactics and dogmatic statements to give credibility to statements that are simply not true.<br /><br />Go to Oxford or Harvard for a few years and then you may tell us about the Muslim religion.<br /><br />Reading whichever version of your American Bible and then using your interpretation plus a healthy dose of Fox News helps no one.<br /><br />Get Wisdom, pursue education. All truth is not contained in your interpretation of your version of the Bible.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-29115201755315770222011-08-09T10:29:04.982-04:002011-08-09T10:29:04.982-04:00Dorothy,
When I started and was diligently pursui...Dorothy,<br /><br />When I started and was diligently pursuing my work against the New Age Movement, you called a Chicago TV station and told them I was anti-Semitic! They told me and gave me your number. I called you and demanded an explanation. You told me that you had reached that conclusion based on papers you had collected (which before you later sent me same, I had never seen), that people who were disseminating similar information to mine (as I recall, a "Ron Miller" of "Distant Drums" Lonsdale, Minnesota) were Catholic anti-Semites. I truthfully told you I had staunchly fought anti-Semitism all of my life. I told you that my findings were as a result of my own original research for which I had spent my own money and obtained sourcebooks (Alice Bailey, THE OCCULT AND THE THIRD REICH, Foster Bailey (RUNNING GOD'S PLAN, pages 14-15). etc. Finally when you persisted, I blurted out, if that's what he (Ron Miller) wrote, he lied. The Jews are most clearly a target of the New Age Movement as are Christians and even Moslems.<br /><br />You then said to me, "I'm going to check out what you said and if you have told me the truth, I'll be the best friend you ever had. If you have lied to me, you'll never have an enemy like me."<br /><br />You checked my information and found I was accurate and happily we were friends for many years. I will have to confess that dealing with you, however, has sometimes been like walking on eggshells. <br /><br />I do not like the way you have used intimidating methods of what is tantamount to stalking to chase good people from the blog with whom there are disagreements on some areas. I am referring to Joyce, Rudi. I also was troubled that gentle souls such as Mariel would be less than enthusiastic about being here because of the divisiveness of your posts.<br /><br /> I have done the equivalent of biting my tongue many times. I have also come to your defense when I felt people were unfairly baiting you.<br /><br />Yes, most definitely, you should get your own blogspot.<br /><br />At a time when there are CRUCIAL obvious ongoing developments in the street fighting phase of the New Age Movement now known as the NEW AGE REVOLUTION, you have diverted attention to personal attacks on me. Why? Because you are angry that I placed important information on NEWSWITHVIEWS. At the same time you fault me, a woman with incredible burdens on the home front for not organizing bigger fights against the Movement.<br /><br />I know, Dorothy, you are not a Christian, but I am. My Bible says very truthfully that "We wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities and powers, against spiritual wickedness in high places."<br /><br />I have felt it was my job to strategically place the evidence was best I could, educating people to the "Hidden Dangers" which are now becoming increasingly "obvious dangers."<br /><br />I have said nothing ugly about you. Unfortunately, you have said much ugly about me, for which I forgive you. <br /><br />It is my position that everybody deserves at least one kind warning. There is, unfortunately, sometimes limited place for sarcasm and abrasiveness. Definitely, there is no place for an ego game. I have given you plenty of recognition. Unfortunately, you seem to dismiss all that as "a pat on the head."<br /><br />I don't know what more I can do. I am using this opportunity to invite at least Joyce and Rudi to come back and I hope that they in turn will be kinder to our very valued Catholic contributors such as Susanna. I hope this rancor has not frightened her and JD away.<br /><br />ConstanceConstance Cumbeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07181096121385621574noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-51442047750094137652011-08-09T08:49:52.326-04:002011-08-09T08:49:52.326-04:00Dorothy..please start a blog.Dorothy..please start a blog.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-65539167093823694712011-08-09T08:12:03.866-04:002011-08-09T08:12:03.866-04:00I am not a Baptist nor from Indiana, nor do I have...I am not a Baptist nor from Indiana, nor do I have "anger" issues. So am I now to take it that Cumbey and fans do not embrace fundamental Christian Biblical principles and exegesis?<br /><br />Its very sad to me that Cumbey and her sycophants retreat behind name calling in the face of her very own statements!<br /><br />Now I'm beginning to see why Cumbey is isolated. She's doing it to herself. While she and her sycophants cast aspersions on literally everyone who dares to disagree with her, she can accept no critique whatsoever. What I'm taking from all this is she and her sycophants think her infallible and above reproach.<br /><br />Cumbey embraces a New Age view of Allah, like it or not.<br /><br />Cumbey should not be at a network that supports anti-semitism and she has been informed of alternatives.<br /><br />The word is getting out Cumbey. You're really hurting yourself and you seriously need to repent both of your spirit of pride and the New Age teachings and association with an anti-semitic platform.<br /><br />I admire your research of the past, and much of the present. However, you are prideful and that is leading to greater isolation and gradual theological error, as evidenced in your New Age position on Allah and Islam.<br /><br />I urge you again to repent.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-17885383965074812532011-08-09T02:57:35.339-04:002011-08-09T02:57:35.339-04:00Skip it Constance. I'm not going to be put on...Skip it Constance. I'm not going to be put on the defensive. I'll continue to fight against the New Age movement and I'll point out when you try to state things about me that aren't true, ugly things. What's your point in doing that except to make yourself look good. Everything I've written can be documented. If you don't like what I've said, tough. <br /><br />I joined the fight against the New Age movement because of the antisemitism involved. I will not buy your rationalizations which work against that goal. <br /><br />Oh yes I was a mouse when I worked along side you. Of course you didn't see that. You thought it was natural behavior. I knew it was necessary in order to work toward the goal of fighting the New Age movement. <br /><br />In spite of everything I've said, I think you can be a pretty decent person. I won't attack you as you've attacked me in this thread with false charges, and everyone reading this should know what they are at this point. It doesn't become you. <br /><br />I'm sure you will continue to hang around with the Raapana types if you find it important enough for your research. I just can't go that route in silence. By the way, I've never shared floor space with Christian bashers, either before or after my work as a researcher on the New Age movement.Dorothynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-66841199572650905012011-08-09T00:53:33.799-04:002011-08-09T00:53:33.799-04:00Dorothy,
In many, many ways you have behaved wors...Dorothy,<br /><br />In many, many ways you have behaved worse than Nikki Rapaana. And a MOUSE you have NEVER been! You have betrayed confidences and personal details about me and made unfounded innuendoes that I would have never dreamed of doing to you.<br /><br />ConstanceConstance Cumbeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07181096121385621574noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-46907355143653895612011-08-09T00:51:57.313-04:002011-08-09T00:51:57.313-04:00From the World War 4 Report site -- headlines of t...From the World War 4 Report site -- headlines of the day -- Rene Wadlow is closely affiliated with this site:<br /><br /><i>From Our Daily Report<br /><br />Tel Aviv protesters: "Egypt is here!"<br />More than 200,000 marched in Tel Aviv, under a banner with the word "Go!" in Arabic—a key symbol of the protest movement that brought down Hosni Mubarak, and a clear reference to Bibi Netanyahu. Below, in Hebrew, were the words: "Egypt is here!"<br /><br />Israel-China military alignment advances<br />A visit to Israel by PLA chief of staff Gen. Chen Bingde to meet with IDF chief of staff Lt.-Gen.Benny Gantz signals an effort by China and Israel to rebuild commercial military ties that have been weakened by US pressure on Tel Aviv.<br /><br />Will FARC fracas unfasten Colombia's reforged ties with Venezuela?<br />Colombia's President Juan Manuel Santos says he will meet with Hugo Chávez to discuss accusations from his armed forces chief Adm. Edgar Cely that Venezuela is continuing to harbor FARC guerillas, even after the Andean neighbors had rebooted relations.<br /><br />California unlikely to meet deadline to reduce prison population: report<br />California's Legislative Analyst's Office released a status report concluding that California is unlikely to meet the US Supreme Court's two-year deadline to reduce the state's prison population by 34,000 inmates.<br /><br />Convicted Abu Ghraib ringleader released early<br />Afghanistan: NATO raid kills civilians —again<br />Tel Aviv rent protesters repudiate "West Bank solution"<br />Israel: Supreme Court orders watershed removal of West Bank settlement outpost<br />Mexico: police arrest Acapulco cartel boss wanted in massacre<br />Cuba high court upholds US contractor's 15-year sentence<br />Planet of the Apes: Relax, it's only a movie<br />Palestine: repression, air-strikes, restrictions of movement as Ramadan opens</i><br /><br />and more side headlines:<br /><br /><i><br /><br />Other News<br /><br /><br />Rent riots rock Tel Aviv<br /><br />Anti-mine paro in Puno, Peru<br /><br />Qaddafi emulates Israel<br /></i><br /><br />Here are Wadlow articles there:<br /><i><br /><br />SYRIA: THE DOWNWARD SPIRAL<br />by Rene Wadlow, Transcend Media Service The United Nations has tried to stop the ... as people are being killed on the ground. ---- Rene Wadlow, is representative to the United Nations at Geneva for the ...<br /><br />Page - Bill Weinberg - 05/01/2011 - 19:45 - 0 comments<br /><br />Issue #173, March 2011<br />... THE LAST CIRCLE IN LIBYA by Rene Wadlow, Toward Freedom REVOLUTION IN THE AGE OF FACEBOOK ...<br /><br />Page - Bill Weinberg - 05/01/2011 - 23:16 - 0 comments<br /><br />THE LAST CIRCLE IN LIBYA<br />by Rene Wadlow, Toward Freedom While the People's Revolution in Tunisia and Egypt ... as the next structures are put into place. ---- Rene Wadlow is a representative to the United Nations, Geneva, for the ...<br /><br />Page - Bill Weinberg - 03/07/2011 - 06:25 - 0 comments<br /><br />THE TWO WARS IN LIBYA<br />... story, this issue: SYRIA: THE DOWNWARD SPIRAL by Rene Wadlow, Transcend Media Service World War 4 Report , May 2011 ...<br /><br />Page - Bill Weinberg - 05/01/2011 - 20:07 - 0 comments<br /><br />The nuclear terrorist threat: our readers write<br />... Central Asia: A Model for the Korean Peninsula? " by Rene Wadlow . It noted a real glimmer of hope in the terrifyingly bleak world ...<br /><br />Blog Entry - WW4 Report - 01/24/2007 - 05:36 - 1 comment - 0 attachments<br /><br />LIBYA: THE WASHINGTON-LONDON DILEMMA<br />... story, this issue: THE LAST CIRCLE IN LIBYA by Rene Wadlow, Toward Freedom World War 4 Report , March 2011 ...<br /><br />Page - Bill Weinberg - 03/07/2011 - 03:43 - 0 comments<br /><br />COMING IN FROM THE COLD<br />UN Membership for Eurasia's Phantom Republics by Rene Wadlow, Toward Freedom The "Phantom Republics" has been the name given to ...<br /><br />Page - Bill Weinberg - 09/28/2008 - 23:51 - 0 comments<br /><br />DARFUR: THE OVERKILL<br />The Janjaweed Spin Out of Control by Rene Wadlow The on-going conflicts in the provinces of Darfur in western Sudan ... and the need for concerted action. ------ Rene Wadlow is editor of the online journal of world politics Transnational ...<br /></i>Constance Cumbeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07181096121385621574noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-1799694214994144452011-08-08T23:45:17.743-04:002011-08-08T23:45:17.743-04:00Constance, stop feeling sorry for yourself. It do...Constance, stop feeling sorry for yourself. It doesn't work with me any more. I wasn't turning on you. It's just after 30 years of quietly being a mouse following you, I decided there was a need to speak up publicly after speaking with you privately did no good. You needed this action from others a long time ago. Instead I foolishly commiserated with you when it happened with others. Sorry I didn't speak up sooner. My fault.<br /><br />More game playing Constance? Putting me in the same package as antisemitic Raapana? She didn't like that you didn't let her talk on the radio show it seems. "I can hardly believe it, took three shows to get there, but I managed to finally discuss Communitarian Law with a practicing American attorney."<br /><br />She jumped on you when she couldn't get her own way. Three shows and probably some off the air talk? She should be glad you kept having her on so many times even though she showed her true colors early on. The link you gave verifies what I said about her. <br /><br />You are doing a lot of things right, the main one continuing to maintain this blog where information about the New Age can come out based on the research done by you and many people and their efforts to hash out differences. <br /><br />As I see it, God gave you the gift of being able to be useful to others. You didn't earn it. You like referring others to things in the Bible. Let me refer you to <br />the parable of the talents Matthew 25:14-30. Maybe you did all you could with the talents you were given, but I don't think so. I'm just as weak in this area as you are. I could have done more I think, but I didn't have enough confidence in my own research. I was too busy supporting you and your efforts.Dorothynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-39681116607159222042011-08-08T22:51:02.821-04:002011-08-08T22:51:02.821-04:00Dorothy, frankly I don't know which one of you...Dorothy, frankly I don't know which one of you turned on me more viciously: you or Nikki Rapanna<br /><br />http://nikiraapana.blogspot.com/2009/01/who-is-constance-cumbey-and-why-does.html<br /><br />or<br /><br />http://tinyurl.com/3flk6rp<br /><br />I must be doing something right. Both of you are mad at me!<br /><br />ConstanceConstance Cumbeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07181096121385621574noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-88992453259473757702011-08-08T22:47:07.758-04:002011-08-08T22:47:07.758-04:00"Northern Indiana," huh. Well, being fr..."Northern Indiana," huh. Well, being from Northern Indiana (Fort Wayne) myself, I don't quite know what to say. I have been in Michigan virtually all of my adult life.<br /><br />ConstanceConstance Cumbeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07181096121385621574noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-71415697806821543152011-08-08T22:25:00.778-04:002011-08-08T22:25:00.778-04:00Constance, Anonymous 9:02 is likely from a "J...Constance, Anonymous 9:02 is likely from a "Jack Hyles" style independent fundamentalist Baptist church, with the slight chance that he is from a dangerously strict reformed background. <br /><br />Usually, the Dutch live and let live, so my guess he is the Northern Indiana variety, and has an anger/need to control problem. I know the type well.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-59676777803578080012011-08-08T22:15:58.638-04:002011-08-08T22:15:58.638-04:00Constance, oh please.... you wrote
"Hopefull...Constance, oh please.... you wrote <br />"Hopefully,that (Armed militia) is not what Dorothy had in mind about fighting the anti-New Age battle we have been in. My bible says...."<br /><br />I'm more for fighting the New Age movement by expanding the number of people who are warning others what is going on and working together to do that. The movement is too big for everyone to think they are learning all there is to know by reading your two books and coming occasionally to this blog. If they learn what is happening in their school, religious institution or community, they will be better equipped to do speak out against those promoting New Age ideas. The fewer people who know what is going on just makes it very hard to take a stand. <br /><br />We do not need another "provision made for dissidents." There are too many of those kind of phony conservatives who pretend to make a stand against New Age, who never make things happen against NA but pretend that there are so many people doing something.Dorothynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-12559923831438570112011-08-08T22:06:46.028-04:002011-08-08T22:06:46.028-04:00Constance, it appears to me you haven't been t...Constance, it appears to me you haven't been to any tea party affairs nor have you followed their pages and information. People there are not aware of New Age, pro or con. No militia groups are involved. At a few things there were a few people trying to pass literature hand to hand, but nobody was talking with them or taking the information. It was extremely crude. This kind of things happens at conservative meetings. No speakers at tea party event I've been at have been anti-Christian, anti-Catholic, anti-Jews or militia people. <br /><br />What I did see connected to the milia movement and New Age was David Icke. I also saw most of the people at the meetings were just locals who wanted to know what was going on. The leaders and those coming in were very skilled in conspiracy propaganda, but they couldn't pull any activity together outside of the meetings. The militia groups died off. There was more hype about them in the media than was taking place though. <br /><br />People at tea party meetings aren't being suckered in as was tried at militia meetings. In fact, if the tea party groups were so dangerous, the government would have been collecting names as they did at militia events. At tea party events people are taught about local government, gun control, who is running for office, etc. <br /><br />I'm very aware of Ezra Pound, Eustace Mullins, etc. because of your introduction of that link. As I've written before, in the past 30 years I've made it a point to personally watch what is going on and not just read what others say. <br /><br />I followed a local militia group and attended their meetings to see what was going on. There is no parallel between tea party information and militia information. I've seen nothing New Age at tea party meetings, no literature, nothing. I did see New Age information at the militia meetings. Don't put words in my mouth about what I thought about militia groups. You won't win at game playing because I play it straight. I wouldn't have been checking out the militia things if I was so accepting of them. I went with some Christian women who were friends. <br /><br />You considering Jones a good source or Huffington Post another good source for information on the tea party movement is really startling Nor do I believe everything on youtube is valid and the New York Times has no agenda. The propaganda against the tea party groups is just that, not because there is anything going on. I really can't believe you would find the material you posted valid. <br /><br />If the New Age/New World Order people are going against the tea party, it is because Christians form the basis for these groups and you know where New Age stands on fundamental Christians and Jews. NA/NWO people were working against Christians long before the tea party movement started.<br /><br />I sent a ton of information on Ron Paul to people on my email list. I haven't seen Ron Paul people around tea party activity locally although I heard that at least one of the tea party umbrella groups gave support to his yacking. That's not enough to turn against the tea party in general. <br /><br />I did hear from one woman in Washington, the state, where tea parties seem to have been taken over by liberal activists. I've heard nothing similar from anyone else.<br /><br />As I said before, thanks for having Raapana on your show several times. I found out enough to warn others about her goals.Dorothynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-76557559445326077792011-08-08T21:46:27.181-04:002011-08-08T21:46:27.181-04:00Hopefully,that (Armed militia) is not what Dorothy...Hopefully,that (Armed militia) is not what Dorothy had in mind about fighting the anti-New Age battle we have been in. My bible says<br /><br />"They overcame the beast by the WORD OF THEIR TESTIMONY and THE BLOOD OF THE LAMB and THEY LOVED NOT THEIR LIVES UNTO THE DEATH."<br /><br />ConstanceConstance Cumbeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07181096121385621574noreply@blogger.com