Tuesday, August 18, 2015

New Agers Back Socialist Sanders as Messiah

New Agers Back Socialist Sanders as Messiah:
Update:  One of my closest personal friends died on Wednesday.  TMERadio will do a rerun of a previous program of mine in the morning, August 22, 2015 as I will be at the funeral that starts at 10:30 a.m.  Thank you for your patience!  I did a SKYPE Roku TV interview with Cliff Kincaid on his America Survival program on Wednesday night.  It aired live, but the program will be going up on his archive.  I'm still finishing parts 2, 3, and 4 of the military New Age and Satanism series.

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Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

my error, Chris white doesn't address the whole festivals thing only the Feast
of Trumpets as relevant.

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--kA2-5z2zI Blood Moon theory Debunked

Susanna said...


Anonymous 8:14 P.M.

I am a great admirer of Deitrich Bonhoeffer and have his book THE COST OF DISCIPLESHIP which I have read and reread. Bonhoeffer was among the group of Christian anti-Nazi activists who were martyred at Flossenburg

No doubt there were members of the Roman Catholic clergy who sided with Hitler, who was himself an apostate Catholic.

Among the more notorious pro-Nazi members of the Catholic clergy was Alois Hudal whose policies and writings seriously deviated from the official policies of the Catholic Church regarding Nazism embodied in the Encyclical Mit brennender Sorge.

You May want to rethink using Tony Alamo as a reference. I am giving you the benefit of the doubt that you haven't properly vetted Tony Alamo whose site contains the photo for which you posted a link......and are therefore unaware that Tony Alamo is a convicted child sex offender who is currently serving a 175-year sentence in a federal penitentiary in Tucson, Arizona.

Tony Alamo was convicted in July 2009 of 10 Federal Counts of taking underage girls across state lines for sex. Interestingly, Tony Alamo was born Jewish and his name was originally Bernie Lazar Hoffman. His "conversion" to Christianity sounds similar to the "conversions of the heretical Jews called "Frankists" whom I have previously mentioned. The Frankists are not only heretical by Christian standards, but also by Orthodox Jewish standards.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/2008/12/04/32-children-seized-from-tony-alamo-christian-ministries-over-alleged-beatings.html

http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/07/24/arkansas.evangelist.trial/

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Feds Target Jailed Evangelist Tony Alamo's Property

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2013/06/feds-target-jailed-evangelist-tony-alamos-property
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Tony Alamo victims awarded $525 million; L.A. properties may be sold

http://articles.latimes.com/2014/mar/01/nation/la-na-nn-tony-alamo-arkansas-victims-20140228

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Tony_Alamo
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As we can see, the Roman Catholic clergy doesn't exactly have a monopoly on sex abuse scandals. Moreover, Tony Alamo should be the last one to be calling the Pope "the Antichrist."

Susanna said...

P.S.

More recently.....

Follower of Tony Alamo sued

Arkansas/April 24, 2015

By John Lynch
http://culteducation.com/group/808-tony-alamo/28469-follower-of-tony-alamo-sued.html

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

there is a big list of protestant pastors involved in sexual abuse of one sort or another. http://www.reformation.com/

some of them were not convicted at the time of the news articles referenced,
but most of the time where there is smoke there is fire.

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

while a method of New Agers is to set fundies against liberals and all against
each other (perhaps the idea is to foment hostility that all get tired of and
will then go for "peace" and "peaceful feelings" i.e., trance states?) it is
obvious that there IS an issue of truth vs. falsehood in these pre existing
disputes. These were not created by New Agers, they merely hope to exacerbate
and profit off them.

The Unitarian Universalist church tends to host wiccan events.

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

Williamson may have got wind of Hillary's potential scandals, aside from the emails
there is that body count ascribed to Bill who doesn't have the brains or focus
to do it. Larry Nichols repented and is yelling about all he arranged for them.
Obviously if this ends in a prosecution for murder it would not be good press for
Williamson and New Age to be involved with her.

Anonymous said...

"but most of the time where there is smoke there is fire".
In reality, you are only smoke in people's eyes. Your have no fire of the Holy Spirit yourself, yet all can can think to say is look at another man's sin. Yes, it is true that sin is rampant in the the church, no matter what denomination, and yes, it is good to know what to steer clear of.
Steering clear of your constant posts (that only jam) is a wise move because the truth is far from you. Go live some, and then come back and post once in a while.

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

my wrong guess it was Obama's charm that got to her.

Susanna said...

Anonymous 8:14 P.M.

I have heard rumors that Billy Graham was a 33rd degree Mason, but I have never seen any hard evidence that would prove these allegations beyond a reasonable doubt. This does not necessarily mean that Rev. Graham is not a Freemason. It merely means that I have not seen any convincing proof that he is.

That said, I would add that Rev. Billy Graham is an ordained Southern Baptist minister.

At the Southern Baptist Convention FAQ link, it reads:

What is the SBC's stance on "Freemasonry?"

The SBC passed a resolution in 1992 opposing membership and participation in organizations that contradict the Bible, but these resolutions are not binding upon local churches.

In its 1993 report, the SBC stated that there were aspects of Freemasonry that are incompatible with Christianity. The main conclusion of the report states:

We conclude that many tenets and teachings of Freemasonry are not compatible with Christianity or Southern Baptist doctrine.


http://www.sbc.net/faqs.asp
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As for the claim that the Masons were taken over by the Jesuits by the late 1700's, that is false. What Robison feared was that the Masons were being taken over by the Illuminati founded by Adam Weishaupt. Contrary to what many erroneously believe, Weishaupt, was neither a Jesuit nor even a priest - although at seven years old he reportedly did begin his formal education at a Jesuit school.

Dr. Weishaupt was probably an atheist, a Cabalistic magician, a rationalist, a mystic; a democrat, a socialist, an anarchist, a fascist; a Machiavellian amoralist, an alchemist, a totalitarian....but the one thing he was NOT was a Jesuit!

Nevertheless, the following might explain why some THINK Weishaupt was a Jesuit.

He (Weishaupt) later enrolled at the University of Ingolstadt and graduated in 1768[9] at age 20 with a doctorate of law. In 1772 he became a professor of law. The following year he married Afra Sausenhofer of Eichstätt.

After Pope Clement XIV’s suppression of the Society of Jesus in 1773, Weishaupt became a professor of canon law, a position that was held exclusively by the Jesuits until that time.
.......read moe....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Weishaupt
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Anyone who is interested can read PROOFS OF A CONSPIRACY here for free online.

PROOFS OF A CONSPIRACY
John Robison.
http://www.sacred-texts.com/sro/pc/
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Robison was inspired by the Jesuit Abbé Augustin Barruel who became famous for his work entitled Memoirs Illustrating the History of Jacobinism.

MEMOIRS ILLUSTRATING THE HISTORY OF JACOBINISM

Links to all parts of Barreul's work can Be found at the very bottom of page describing it at the following link.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memoirs_Illustrating_the_History_of_Jacobinism
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Or part three of the "Memoirs" can be linked to here.

http://sacred-texts.com/sro/mhj/index.htm
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Marko said...

Christine:

Re your post from 11:34 ("while a method of New Agers is to set fundies against liberals and all against each other... it is obvious that there IS an issue of truth vs. falsehood in these pre existing disputes. These were not created by New Agers, they merely hope to exacerbate and profit off them...")

I agree. There are historical, philosophical, religious, and other reasons for divisions between people (many who should be on the "same side") which New Agers have *nothing* to do with.

Since this is a forum for discussing the New Age threat, it is easy to assign blame to New Age followers, promoters or tactics when the blame really lies elsewhere.

I guess it would be the same on any forum where the focus is to track some nefarious entity or philosophy. For example, my main focus is currently on Russia and China and the socialist worldwide revolution, so I interpret events through that "lens" more than through any other.

It really is hard to be completely objective in any analysis. It helps to read a variety of sources on any one topic.

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

If I recall correctly, one of the things that got Weishaupt mad was that the chair
he wanted was reserved for a Jesuit and he couldn't get it. Like head of the
department of canon law or something like that. Of course this was his overweening
ego in play, which was already there or it wouldn't have blown up.

Then he went on to create that Illuminati order which involved infiltrating
masonry and using it as an outer court to recruit people who were suitable. And
to copy the Jesuits in their organization and operation style of the time. (This
was before they got shut down by the papacy for a while, the pope of the time not
agreeing that ends justifies means. The infamous oath of the Jesuit was from that
time and even its origin, perhaps it has been changed when it was revived.

Masonry however was already getting paganized. By 1711 it was becoming "speculative."

The way the SBC is organized, with each congregation or church independent, I don't
think ANYTHING is binding on a member church, though of course if a member church
decided to deny the Incarnation or Trinity or Resurrection they would just be
kicked out of the SBC. The only time a Baptist church is subordinate to and takes
orders from the SBC is when it is a mission and not a church.

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

that said, there was quite a hubbub in Texas I think involving them, when a man
was trying to get masonry established as something membership in which would get
you excommunicated. This failed. And it came out that a lot of mason money is
involved in the Baptist church.

I think it was a Baptist preacher in the 1800s who wasn't getting anywhere, and
he heard or felt The Holy Spirit say to him to get rid of that jewel, which was
his masonic jewel. And he did so, and took a closer look at masonry and the
meanings of ritual and statements you go through thinking of it as mumbo jumbo
of no importance you do to be part of a socially useful brotherhood. And came out
against masonry.

The trouble with all this stuff is, that even if you lack INTENT and even lack
knowledge, it gives an opening to the devil however slight. and it cripples your
walk in Christ.

The teachings of masonry are such when you examine them that they essentially
train you in Satanist philosophy. Which includes "balance." to balance good and
evil and do both. That is why you can have someone who does a lot of evil and a
lot of good, this is not a struggle, this is not a backslide while doing evil,
this is calculated from the get go as a proper pattern. http://politicallyunclassifiable.blogspot.com/2015/07/the-real-evil-of-freemasonry.html

Marko said...

Susanna,

Thanks for the link to the article on "MEMOIRS ILLUSTRATING THE HISTORY OF JACOBINISM". It looks like a fascinating book. I've not really looked in-depth into Jacobinism, and have always wanted to. That book looks like a good place to start.

I would guess that it would explain a lot of what's going on in the world today. Funny how relevant books can be to today's world that were written hundreds of years ago.

Reminds me of an article I ran across the other day about reading:

http://time.com/3993897/schopenhauer-reading-books/

There are some real gems from Schopenhauer that are quoted in the article, but I like this from the author, which is really just a quote from "The Prince":

"In The Prince, Machiavelli offered the following advice: “A wise man ought always to follow the paths beaten by great men, and to imitate those who have been supreme, so that if his ability does not equal theirs, at least it will savour of it.”"

Reminds me of something I like to tell people, which is a quote from somewhere, I believe, and I can't remember where:

Sometimes the road less traveled is less traveled for a reason.

:^)

Susanna said...

Marko,

I was glad to be able to provide links to the works of both Robison and Abbe Barreul. Robison was influenced by Barreul.

LOL I have a copy of THE PRINCE in my personal library.

Susanna said...

Anonymous 8:19P.M.

The following reflects my understanding of the situation regarding "Allah."

Do Muslims Worship the Same God Catholics Do?
Tim Staples
May 30, 2014

St. John Paul first acknowledges the truth that Muslims get it right when they profess faith in one God. Then, and only then, does he point out they have it as wrong as wrong can be when it comes to what God has revealed to us in Scripture about who he is, and, I would add, what he asks of his people by way of his commandments........read more.....

http://www.catholic.com/blog/tim-staples/do-muslims-worship-the-same-god-catholics-do
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The Conciliar statement also wisely adds the caveat, all too often ignored by the Church’s critics, that “Mohammedans” (Musulmanos) are “professing” to hold the faith of Abraham. Whether or not they actually hold it is arguable, but the Vatican Council is only noting that they claim for their faith that it is that of Abraham, without discussing whether or not Islam actually is an authentically Abrahamic faith....read more...

http://www.crisismagazine.com/2012/do-catholics-and-muslims-worship-the-same-god
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I can vouch for this as an eye witness. A family member of mine was married to a Muslim. She ended it because of his insistence that any children be raised Muslim.

Whenever he and I had religious discussions, he always professed that he believed in the "God of Abraham." Since I did not know what was in his heart, I was not about to presume to call him a liar.

But make no mistake, he knew that I was unequivocally committed to my Christian faith and he respected that. In fact, the respect was mutual.

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cont..

Susanna said...

cont.


I am not denying that the "Outside the church no salvation" quote has been used and abused by radicals of the left and of the right........especially the Feeneyites and Radical Traditionalist Catholics. The truth of the matter is that no one but God is capable of defining the point beyond which one is "outside the church." This is because no one but God has direct access to each person's mind and each person's heart. And this is why the Catechism of the Catholic Church teaches:

Those who, through no fault of their own, do not know the Gospel of Christ or his Church, but who nevertheless seek God with a sincere heart, and, moved by grace, try in their actions to do his will as they know it through the dictates of their conscience - those too may achieve eternal salvation.337

However, whether these people are aware of it or not,

....all salvation comes from Christ the Head through the Church which is his Body:

http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc/p123a9p3.htm

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Re:Yes, Susanne, you are the queen of hall monitors and your education and English are amazing and perfect and I don't even have a pass. I am going to the rest room.

Aw c'mon. Gimme a break!

I'm not trying to be "queen of hall monitors" here. Nor am I trying to "one up" you or anybody else. I am simply sharing accurate information......which, by the way, I did not invent.

I humbly admit that I have been truly blessed with both the religious and secular education I have received.......much of which was informal and up until my high school graduation largely from my Irish grandmother who happened to be a professional educator. The informal education I received from her at home was in addition to the formal public school education I received. Did you ever hear of the "Hedge Schools?" It was the system of education developed in secret by the Irish in the days of" Penal Ireland" when Irish Catholics were persecuted and the penalty for practicing, preaching or teaching the Catholic faith was "death for high treason." My Irish ancestors were from Kerry. When my own great Grandfather immigrated to this country, he had little in the way of a formal education but yet in addition to other things, he could read, write and speak both in Gaelic and in English. My father often used to describe his grandfather's "beautiful script." One of my nieces is a teacher in St. Louis and she recently informed me to my horror that cursive handwriting is no longer being taught in the school where she teaches........a high school!!!!

http://www.irishcentral.com/opinion/others/i-never-carried-the-sod-85366852-238008851.html

http://www.hedgeschool.com/Irishhistory.html
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If my grandmother carried on that "Hedge School " tradition with her grandchildren, it was probably because she did not entirely trust the public school system. I never attended Catholic schools. There weren't any around in the town where I grew up.


Re: The Nohide Law debate is yet another scam to discredit the Jews and use them as human shields for the serpents. I read the book today. They are going to use this Rothchild/Zionist thing to do it (another downfall of the Southern Churches) A better plan should be constructed to reach the Jews for Christ. I did say I heard Marrs and Rense calling the Roths ‘not even human’ and I was sick. Constance has been right on the issue all along. The deception is as thick and an algae bloom.

I know about the Noahide Laws, but I am not familiar with plans you mentioned that are formed with the intention of discrediting the Jewish people.

Hope you had a good "rest" in the rest room. :-)

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

"The theory of conspiracy is a tool for Barruel that is used in an attempt to discredit "public politics" or politics based on the support of public opinion. Hofman shows how Barruel sought to prove that public politics, demanded by both the philospophes and the revolutionaries, could not in fact exist as it was an illusion designed to create support for their private desire to control France."

such politics can exist IF you have a really free press and legal protection of
sources and laws demanding transparency. To get the first thing assured, you also
have to have legal prevention of the single or limited agreed together crew ownership
of the media. And this situation of such ownership, creating policies that control
the flow of information (which if successful controls the outcome) largely exists now.

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

http://www.amazon.com/Occult-ABC-Exposing-Practices-Ideologies-ebook/dp/B00272MADE/ref=sr_1_12?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1440529116&sr=1-12&keywords=kurt+koch+books#reader_0825430313

this is the kindle free sample view, quite a lot of information in the contents and
the introduction he had trouble from people who denied a Christian can have occult problems but as he says this is due to ignorance and lack of experience. In an American location without much such activity, there was minimal problems while in a Swiss canton loaded with such there were numerous Christians suffering occult oppression because of their own or ancestor's activities.

Anonymous said...

Why should Christine care when she's got the 'res seer' to misguide her?

Oh yes, because the blind following the blind 'seer', resident or not, will both fall into the ditch!

Anonymous said...


Anonymous 8:17 P.M.

A sound heart is the life of the flesh: but envy the rottenness of the bones.

Proverbs 14:30

Anonymous said...

"Outside the church there is no salvation" is merely an implicit definition of the church, which is the community of the saved. Problems arise when people say "outside MY church there is no salvation".

Anonymous said...

The Quran ascribes a different personality to the Creator (‘Allah’) from that found in the Bible. In the Quran the creator is remote and capricious; no covenants are offered to people and no help is offered. Before Islam, ‘Allah’ (a shortening of al-illah, meaning “the god”) would have been a good translation into Arabic of some of the words for God in the Bible. Today, though, it carries too much Islamic baggage, as it is taken to mean a Being who created the world and has the personality spoken of in the Quran; Christians believe that no such entity exists.

Susanna said...

Anonymous 9:25

Actually, that is a very good insight. When all is said and done, only God can know who is - or is not - saved.

Anonymous said...

Early in the comments someone suggested Trump is the person to watch to understand future trends. I do not support him in any way. He is more involved in surreptitious New Age than any other candidate.

His approach duplicates that of the bombastic Hitler. Here I am comparing historical records of Hitler's crowd speeches and Trump's current speeches to political audiences.
This in common: every comment is focused on the special qualities of the speaker, each praising himself to the exclusion of others on the team, each saying only he can solve the problems of the country. Each presents an emotionally filled package appealing to audiences with political desires and very little concrete knowledge of how a country is run. Both say what their audiences want to hear. Both are very charismatic.

Recently I read a book from 1947 titled Prophet and Peoples, Studies in Nineteenth Century Nationalism by Hans Kohn. The book continued study through WWII, going country by country, England, France,Italy, Germany and Russia. It showed how prideful nationalistic tendencies developed and then led to destruction (except for England) because of others who used that pride for control. There is no doubt that Trump is developing such a following, well meaning people who do not remember history.

Two other points. Anyone with even a little bit of knowledge how conspiracy operates knows that nothing reaches public attention here in the US unless it is acceptable to those who control the media. Trump receives a huge amount of media publicity, much more than any other candidate. Conspiracies such as New Age require funding. Yes, Trump has his own money, but all of his contacts are with the extremely rich and the political community. Either group could be behind the Trump phenomena and no one in the media will expose it.

What do people know about Trump? He's a nice, interesting rich guy. People who liked Hitler said, "If only Hitler knew what was going on he would stop it."

Anonymous said...


In connection with my earlier post on Trump's speaking style as compared to early Hitler, add this http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trumps-ex-wife-once-said-he-kept-a-book-of-hitlers-speeches-by-his-bed-2015-8 From Vanity Fair 1990. Nazi = New Age as everyone reading here must know.

Anonymous said...

Why not just study the Bible and ask for the Spirit to show you rather than take any man's word for it?
Do you have the faith for something that simple?
Let God be true and every man (even good ones) a liar by comparison.

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

its too easy to deceive yourself and think The Holy Spirit is telling you when its just your own flesh
Trump's message seems good, the problem is is he reliable or is he playing a game?
sure prayer is important, God can get us the information we need to judge Trump by
and the wisdom to make the judgement.

for now its probably too early.

But such wisdom shouldn't be sought in terms of will he win but should I vote for him
and risk regretting it. Because God might put him in office regardless of whether
he is any good or not as part of judgement against us to rack up what we can regret
later.

Bush, REagan, Clinton, Obama, all the frauds and fools.

Anonymous said...

This suggestion is made to individuals pursuing information about the New Age movement from an academic perspective. I pulled the book Earthly Powers by Michael Burleigh off a shelf and realized I hadn't given something in it more thought. Burleigh's books have been mentioned been mentioned by others commenters here, but not that one.

Often we have difficulty in telling others about the New Age movement. That for several reasons. One that it is seen as a kooky occult pagan movement that will go away. Second, there seems to be no connection to it from any other source. Third, it is never mentioned by mainline media people.

The book never mentions New Age specifically or any individuals we know to be associated with the New Age movement. What it does show is how the same political agenda now seen in the NAM has been repeated over and over through history. The NAM is nothing new from more than the occult pagan point of view. The political plans have been tried over and over again, only this time the planners have been successful because of their long term tactics. If we can work to figure out a way to tell others of the NAM connection to such strictly political efforts in the past and how disastrous they turned out to be, we might have more listeners.

My experience has been that talking about New Age to others is much like whistling in the wind.

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