Thursday, April 16, 2015

John P. Holdren -- Frightening as advisor to USA President -- Paul Ehrlich & Population Reduction



I've spent time going through my old library trying to archive and categorize my work for the past 34 years to facilitate those who might need to retrieve it when and if the same recurring issues again raise their ugly head.  One large book in my library, ECOSCIENCE is a 1,051 page tome by three co-authors:  Paul R. Ehrlich, Anne Ehrlich AND John P. Holdren.  Paul Ehrlich and Anne Ehrlich were well known to me as the Zero Population Growth founder-advocates that they were and are.


John P. Holdren, Presidential Science Advisor



Anne Ehrlich
Paul R. Ehrlich
John P. Holdren was not as familiar to me, but he is now.  He is, ironically, one day younger than me to the day.  I was born on Leap Year Day of 1944.  He came into the world on March 1st, 1944.  I decided to google Holdren and was amazed to learn that he has been prominent in far more than academic/literary circles.  Holdren is, per Google's Wikipedia summary: "the senior advisor to President Barack Obama on science and technology issues through his roles as Assistant to the President for Science and Technology, Director of the White House . . ."

According to the Wikipedia article as it is as of this writing, these were the trio's positions vis a vis population:


Overpopulation was an early concern and interest. In a 1969 article, Holdren and co-author Paul R. Ehrlich argued, "if the population control measures are not initiated immediately, and effectively, all the technology man can bring to bear will not fend off the misery to come."[28] In 1973, Holdren encouraged a decline in fertility to well below replacement in the United States, because "210 million now is too many and 280 million in 2040 is likely to be much too many."[29] In 1977, Paul R. Ehrlich, Anne H. Ehrlich, and Holdren co-authored the textbook Ecoscience: Population, Resources, Environment; they discussed the possible role of a wide variety of means to address overpopulation. These included some extreme measures, none of which Ehrlichs and Holdren advocated, such as forced sterilization, compulsory abortion, contraceptives in the food and water supply, reproductive licenses, and more.[20][30][31]
The edition I own was copyrighted in 1970, 1973, and 1977.  Curiously, John Holdren is now advising POTUS (President of the United States) on "global warming" and "climate change" issues.

That is every so interesting.  In the 1977 edition which I own, a new potential "ICE AGE" was their then bogeyman.  I'll bet the Ehrlichs and Holdren could in true New Age fashion "recycle" their  1970, 1973, and 1977 editions to Boston, Michigan, and other harsh winters of 2013-14 and 2014-15 survivors.  We could well believe a new "Ice Age" is upon us.  They might have a harder time selling it to California!

I'm finishing a traumatic week -- still working on the HiJacking of Evangelicalism series.

Stay tuned!

CONSTANCE


197 comments:

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

either option, an ice age or global warming, would solve the population problem for them,
so why all the effort at population unless they just don't like people and want an excuse also
for massive control, maybe of the sort that would allow them to breed a superhuman race?

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/2013/12/01/crypto-eugenics-population-control-policy-and-propaganda/

well, Ehrlic doesn't seem implicatable in eugenics clearly, he even wrote a book opposing the
idea that you can reliably link human behavior to genes, or at least that we don't know enough
to do so yet and that the real thing to try to direct is
environment and culture.

But Holdren is another story. The article references "crypto eugenics" which where you pursue
eugenics with a different stated goal as excuse.

https://web.archive.org/web/20061113201327/http://www.eugenics-watch.com/roots/chap10.html

eugenics-watch.com is apparently defunct, and the internet archive is not sacro sanct, so you might
want to copy the whole online book.

https://web.archive.org/web/20061113201134/http://www.eugenics-watch.com/index.html

the link you want to read the whole book referenced is Roots of Racism and Abortion.

Anonymous said...

We are well beyond the 280 million they anticipated years from now - we seem to be managing well, aside from the moral and political decline.

Dave in CA

Anonymous said...

I think they are still experimenting with such a superhuman race on Mars. They'll be revealing it to us soon and have been softening us up over the years to it with movies like Total Recall.

I feel exhausted and achy this morning. I couldn't sleep a wink last night. I think my sacro-chakra must be out of salts (even Mike said my emotions were erratic lately). I think it must be my late mother having a vampiric fantasma feed. I feel that all the ether has been sucked from my being. I think that's much more likely than what the quack says about side effects of the largactil taking its toll on me.

Anonymous said...

The nepharious men in black down at Area 51 have been experimenting with this transgenics stuff ever since Operation Paperclip. The Nazis were involved in copying UFO technology ever since one of their u-boats discovered a crashed saucer off the coast of Uraguay, February 1944.

They surfaced the thing and discovered grays on board; most were dead already but there were several encapsulated in the watertight hibernation facilities. The Nazis learned much from the technology, including developing crude rocket making ability (hence the V2s) but were unable to harvest enough information before the fall of Berlin.

Anyway, in May 1945 we got hold of the technology, the UFO and the Nazi scientists that had been working on the thing and had almost gained a primitive understanding of the functioning of its nuclear powered generators, and shipped everything off to the Nevada Desert. What came just
after? You got it, Hiroshima and Nagasaki! The grays (from Nibiru ((planet x)) and her sister planet Y, just beyond Pluto) gradually shared their know how down at Area 51. An alliance was then made between those men behind the scenes and the grays, with many more UFOs turning up at Area 51, and sharing technology as well as covert men and alien missions into space (namely Mars and her moons, Deimos and Phobos) in exchange for thousands of ground and freeze dried human carcasses for these telepathic vampiric extra-terrestrial / extra-dimensional beings.

Fast-forward to the 80's when underground colonies were built on Mars and hybrids between grays and humans were created to form the human of the future, the superhuman, who combining the the intelligence of the grays, the human instinctual capacities and a realm of nanotechnological breakthroughs in learning truly to fuse both the mind and machine cyborg style are near to complete in creating the superhuman, the transhuman or the posthuman, call it what you will. A being of seemingly endless ability, a chimera seeking out the philosopher's stone, the exilir of life prolonged by man and.his ego beyond his wildest dreams!

The global elites don't plan for all of us to enjoy this though, the vast majority of us will be slaughtered for the grays and phosphorus extraction (needed for the brains of those posthumans to keep functioning for millennia. About 500 million of us ordinary humans will be kept alive, chipped as slaves and for limited breeding like cattle. The very rich and powerful meanwhile, will have hybrid gray-human stem-cells enriched with phosphorus injected into their brains as their failing bodies are replaced with nanotech machinery and robotics with lab grown hybrid organ, if they get their way.

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Anonymous said...

BTW, I think my account's been hacked! It might be my imagination but something strange is happening round here lately. Just letting you all know!

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

Constance and everyone,

the posts from 8:10 to 9:35 are not mine.

whoever did them has quite a bit of information from all the varied weird side of the net info though
I don't recall anything about crashed saucers off Paraguay, it was alleged one crashed in Germany
before WW 2. I also don't recall anything about phosphorus needs. Some of this (nanotech) IS what the
transhumanists want to do to their elites to live forever and harvest the rest of us for spare parts, however.

Congratulations on a lot of reading! (unless someone cobbled this insane seeming mess in one place and you cribbed it from there.)

Anonymous said...

The above post isn't mine! Or is it now? Let me think.... Erm....

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

oh, come on anon 9:52

Anonymous said...

Well if the post at 9:48 is mine then let me be sure and examine a little of its highly intellectual, knowledgable and well researched content ...

"don't recall anything about crashed saucers off Paraguay... "

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geography_of_Paraguay

"Paraguay is a landlocked country in South America, bordering Brazil, Argentina and Bolivia."

Then again could it have been...?

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geography_of_Uruguay

"Uruguay is a country in Southern South America, bordering the South Atlantic Ocean, between Argentina and Brazil. It is located in the Southern Hemisphere on the Atlantic seaboard of South America between 53 and 58 west longitude and 30 and 35 south latitude. It is bounded on the west by Argentina, on the north and northeast by Brazil, and on the southeast by the Atlantic Ocean."

No, I think I stick to Paraguay!

Oh dear, it must be mine after all!!

Anonymous said...

I repeat from the same post in question :"as also don't recall anything about phosphorus needs."

Now I let me think a little as my memory's a little dulled from age and from what Richard and Mike have been smoking...

Ah yes, straight out of Aldous Huxley's Brave New World, where
transhumanist elites want to live forever and harvest the rest of us for spare parts and energy, killing us off early.

I'll pat myself modestly on the back again: "Congratulations on a lot of reading!"

Anonymous said...

Just so the post in question doesn't mysteriously disappear as others of mine and the imposter's recently have, let's have it posted again here in full.


Christine Erikson (aka Justina)9:48 AM

Constance and everyone,

the posts from 8:10 to 9:35 are not mine.

whoever did them has quite a bit of information from all the varied weird side of the net info though
I don't recall anything about crashed saucers off Paraguay, it was alleged one crashed in Germany
before WW 2. I also don't recall anything about phosphorus needs. Some of this (nanotech) IS what the
transhumanists want to do to their elites to live forever and harvest the rest of us for spare parts, however.

Congratulations on a lot of reading! (unless someone cobbled this insane seeming mess in one place and you cribbed it from there.)

Reply

Anonymous said...

Speaking of population control.

'Homeland Security Needs Another 62 Million Rounds Of AR-15 Ammo'
www.now the end begins.com/blog/?p=32494

There are now 73 federal agencies that have armed officers. Such agencies as the US Forest Service, EPA, Fish and Wildlife Service, BLM, and the Postal Service.

Anonymous said...

I think I know what I hate most about Christine's posts.
She treats us all and the all topics here like they are to be viewed as lab experiments for her exploration to use for her entertainment and curiosity and as though we need her to show us how to think about everybody and everything using "her superior knowledge".
On the last thread she comes off sounding like she was around when God began.
GOD was never created--HE always was. (christine would make a good mormon lol! ) Amazing how she has no Awe before the Lord and thinks she can speak as though she has Him figured out. That is so stupid------and arrogant------------it is beyond words to describe.
So the worst is how she treats the LORD GOD.
Like she can dissect HIM like an earthworm.
Christine's 'god' is so small and lives in her mind where she can 'toy' with him.

That is not the God of the Holy Word the Bible that I know, and Who knows me.

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

"On the last thread she comes off sounding like she was around when God began.
GOD was never created--HE always was."

I did no such thing. Origin is outside of time, from before forever. there is no time when
either The Son or The Holy Spirit did not exist. Their ground of being so to speak is The Father
Who is without origin and unbegotten and all Three are coeternal. I think I have
mentioned that in previous posts, so you are just trying to falsely accuse me, as usual.

and you or whoever came off sounding like a modalist heretic who denies The Holy Trinity.

and you for sure don't know the Bible very well. A few pieces out of context at most.

I'm not sure you even are a Christian heretical or otherwise, you are probably an atheist new age
troll who grabs a few ideas out of pop culture Christianity (which are usually warped out of context based)
to bash me over the head with. Thank God I know Scripture enough to refute you. Something about
Timothy having wisdom unto salvation on account of knowing the Scriptures comes to mind.

Anonymous said...

What's more, 11:17 am is although I've been regularly bashed here for chakras and whatnot (see Eccles. 12:16) my interpretations have certainly not been out of sink with EO theological thought as neither have my views regards the filioque... , my thoughts are far from New Age thinking as far as I'm concerned, then again my thoughts are not yours!

Anonymous said...

Whoops! The posts from 8:10 to 9:35 are mine after all. Oh well!

Anonymous said...

Just double-checked, I couldn't find Eccles12:16 and then saw it's Ec 12:06 where the contention lies. It must be due to my sacro-chakras being out of sorts, I'll get Mike to concentrate all his talent and have a look when he gets back.

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Anonymous said...

How dare you all! You're probably possessed by my mother or something.... How many of you shape -shifting vampires are there?

Anonymous said...

Yes You jammers, trolls and blog sows who hog confusion.

Anonymous said...

"Amazing how she has no Awe before the Lord and thinks she can speak as though she has Him figured out"


You talk the Awe right out of everything. You come off a supremely arrogant (and also new age) and are once again wrong about what stand I took on the Trinity. You are the one who casts dispersions---on me I don't care though--it is what you do to twist Scripture to appear that you have made a point no one else knows with your "all knowledge attitude" that takes the cake and of course, make no point worth taking as you do it.

That is not how the Spirit of God operates. He does not and cannot operate through you.

Confusion is your whole life. You hear the enemy clearly and propagate half truths here with gusto.

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

anon 12:57

how do you justify this:

""Jesus Himself did not teach the filioque, He said The Holy Spirit proceeds from The Father, not "from The Father and Me," and He said He would send The Holy Spirit "From The Father," not "I will send the Holy Spirit From The Father and From Me.""

Wow how ignorant is that statement.
Jesus said I and the Father are One. When you have seen me you have seen the Father.

Christine, are calling Jesus Christ wrong?"

I think you are a modalist, and you are backpedalling lest someone tangle with you on the issue of
oneness Pentecostalism heresy.

How can you argue that Jesus' words that He and the Father are one and when you've seen Him you've seen the Father,

shows that the Holy Spirit has to come in origin from both of Them?

and still be a Trinitarian?

and if you think understanding the difference between one thing and another is hair splitting and confusion,

then you can take it up with all the theologians throughout history and all the Christian Church to its
origins because what I do I learned from them and The Bible.

being one with someone is not the same as being same person, it can be one in agreement, one in
substance and it can be one in the sense that you represent the other like a king's emissary so that an
insult to you is an insult to the king, or it can mean you are totally LIKE the other person who
is a distinct person from you, for example your identical twin. Or it can mean acting the same, working
from the same premises, and/or to the same goal.

As for figuring God out, the things I discuss are all spelled out in bits and pieces throughout
The Bible. These are the things God has revealed about Himself, but His ESSENCE IS UNKNOWABLE.

Anonymous said...

"Never lead someone to Christianity; lead them to the Christ of Christianity."

Transformation happens by way of Divine illumination, not because of cultural integration.

Church is not God, Christ is God.

You are guilty of this very thing Christine.
However....
you do do a poor job of leading people to even that level though! LOL! Good thing you are boring as hell and so unappealing in your personal style because otherwise would send them away from the Lord Himself!!!...just as the pharisees were guilty of and Jesus said so very particularly in the bible.

You don't do God the favor you are so doggone sure you are doing afterall!!! (you would do well as a mormon though :)!)

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

anon 1:12

nice job of sidestepping an issue by changing the subject.

but you've blown your own cover. you are not a Christian. you use New Age terms like "transformation"
and "divine illumination," and fight against rationality and have total confusion about doctrine and mishandle the word of God.

YOU ARE NEW AGE.

Anonymous said...

Anon 1:12

And before you say anything about my take on chakras, men on Mars, Nibiru, etc all in perfect tune with my understanding of EO doctrine, realize I'd never throw buzz-words or phrases like paranormal vampiric feeds, ether and soul anatomy, etc. Or would I? Oh my memory. I wish Mike'd stop passing round that stuff!! Like I said anon 1:12,

NEW AGE to the ROTTEN CORE!

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Anonymous said...

The new age does not own those words you poor soul.
My life is a transformed one by the power of God because the Holy Spirit gave me conviction of sin and repentance unto salvation in the mercy of the Lord.
Jesus is my Savior, not my religion (or denomination or whatever you want to call it). If anyone listens to you they would miss knowing Jesus the Lord because you are going the opposite direction from Him.

You are jealous for not having a transformed life yourself. You could have one too, IF you let the Spirit of Jesus show you by faith how to be free from the chains of sin and shame you cling to. You have chosen to keep yourself from the forgiveness and mercy of the cross of Christ and bow and give your worship to church and religion instead. That is how you have replaced Him and are stuck in your sins and cannot transform yourself no matter how much religion you put yourself through. You must humble yourself before the Lord to receive His free gift of new life.
Stop being jealous and let God work the truth into you.

Anonymous said...

"You are jealous for not having a transformed life yourself. You could have one too"

Anonymous 2:19 PM,

Yes she is jealous but she doesn't want one. That'd mean having to give up Mike the Res Seer, her beliefs in chakras etc, her hatred and unforgiveness of her mother, her trust in delusions of
intellectual supremacy. It'd take real intelligence and a desire to repent, and humble herself before the Lord.

Anonymous said...

Agree 2:40 PM.

The spirit of the pharisee in her is not allowing this to happen.

And how sad that all she has with the resident seer (a spiritually idolatrous concept right there) is a 'two ticks and no dog' set up, but her willfully ignorant pride won't see the problem with that either.
The Bible shows her it is all sin but she cherry picks the truth out to keep the lifestyle intact. The Spirit of God is not indwelling her or that situation.

Susanna said...

From the WATT'S UP WITH THAT blog:

Idiotic claim from WH science advisor John Holdren: ‘Finally, less energy can mean more employment.’

Guest Blogger / 2 weeks ago April 4, 2015

The Magical Power of the Kilowatt-Hour
Guest essay by Tom Scott

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2015/04/04/the-magical-power-of-the-kilowatt-hour/

Marko said...

In defence of Christine, and I mean the REAL Christine:

Someone has created a blogger account with Christine's exact display name, and they have mirrored this new profile site to say the exact same thing as Christine's profile site, so if you click on the blue link for either one, the page you go to looks the same.

But...they are not the same person.

If you hover your mouse over the blue link for "Christine Erikson (aka Justina)", you will see at the bottom of your browser a web address for the link you are hovering over. You will notice, as you hover over Christine's name post after post, most of them end with a "117" but the new "imposter" link ends with "663". Any posts from THIS Christine are not her, but someone who has set up a parallel account to harass her and make things here even more difficult than they already are.

If this were my blog.... well, you probably wouldn't like it. :^)

I'd probably start by turning all comments off for a month.

I'd most certainly ban the Christine imposter.

I'd also ban for 30 days anyone that habitually posts contentious, harassing posts that attack individuals and contribute nothing of value to anyone.

But.... It's not my blog, it's Constance's.

So on that note....

=============

Constance, your choice of topic is very interesting. It seems there are a lot of people who seemed to have their heyday back in the 70s and 80s still working behind the scenes, and some even NOT so behind the scenes!

Jeff Nyquist has written an article called "Green is the new Red". Depopulation, and most "Green" movements are as intertwined and inseparable as Tweedledee and Tweedledum.

It's all about "Mother Earth". She, along with Self, are probably the two main gods of the New Age.

Gorbachev was given an office at the Presidio military base in San Francisco in 1991, and there he started the Gorbachev Foundation. He founded International Green Cross the following year, and has been involved ever since in various Green movements and funding, and has NEVER ABANDONED HIS RED, COMMUNIST ROOTS EITHER! So I guess he's what we call a watermelon - red on the inside, green on the outside.

Other groups that have offices at the Presidio include the Tides Foundation (which funds a bunch of New Age and Lefty groups and individuals), and Lucasfilm's Industrial Light and Magic.

Nancy Pelosi was instrumental in giving this piece of real estate away as part of the "peace dividend" of winning the Cold War.

Anyway, lots of shenanigans going on as both Communism/Islam and other totalitarian nonsense, and the New Age marches ever onward, They may seem to be winning for a season, but they lose in the end, thank God!

Links:

1. http://jrnyquist.com/
2. http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials/021015-738779-climate-change-scare-tool-to-destroy-capitalism.htm
3. http://www.kenraggio.com/KRPN-Gorbachev-PresidiumtoPresidio.htm
4. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presidio_of_San_Francisco
5. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikhail_Gorbachev

By the way, when I first found the article in link #2, the number of comments in the comments section was 666. Uhh.....alrighty then.....

Doesn't Christiana Figueres just LOOK evil???

Anonymous said...

Anon 2:52 PM ~ anon 2:40 here,

Spot on! The Pharisaic spirit and the Babylonian mystery leaven of Lilith is possessing and blinding her reason (or lack of it)!

And you're clearly right again: " The Spirit of God is not indwelling her or that situation".

Anonymous said...

satirical ingenuity. Seeing as you love the 'real' New Age Chritine so much, why not set up a blog and invite her round? Until then, put your money where your mouth is and ban yourself for a month from this blog ~ hopefully Chritine will follow suit!

Anonymous said...

No, it's not your blog Marko. This 'new' Christine is a breath of fresh air and should be thanked for such satirical ingenuity. Seeing as you love the 'real' New Age Chritine so much, why not set up a blog and invite her round? Until then, put your money where your mouth is and ban yourself for a month from this blog ~ hopefully Chritine will follow suit!

Anonymous said...

oh Marko you shouldn't, really! you'll be getting Mike jealous if you continue... just stop why dontcha? * blush*

Anonymous said...

Yes Chritiana Erikson's posts do look evil Marko. However, what's even sadder is you'd while away the minutes counting them. You've probably both got far too much time on your hands. The Devil's sure making work of Chritiana's idle idolatrous ones! Be careful.... that ditch is just ahead of you and she's already fallen in!

Anonymous said...

I will not engage with the fake Christine. It is the real one I take issue with sometimes. She has not done herself or this blog or anyone here a good turn by arguing constantly. Proof she cannot allow herself to truly learn anything (since she knows it all already--that is ridiculous and this blog deserves better!) and making herself very counter-productive.
But I think the imposter is a being a stupid jerk for being so dishonest a person to suppose that whoever they are can speak for her. Shameful is what that is and unacceptable here. Wrong all over the place.
Yeah, I do think Christine should be banned from this blog, but that is up to Constance, and until she does we are stuck to have to put up with her on some level or just ignore the half-baked ideas or flat out untruths posted by Christine Erikson. Or tell her how wrong we think she is.

She has shown she won't be reasonable on her own. (and there is no excuse for that, none).
Most folks would make a move one direction or another-leave quietly or fall into a respectable, respectful line for the good of all. That is not her intention, style, or mode of being here. And shame on her.
Her assumptions about others, her assuming to know all and what she thinks we don't, browbeating topics and people then raking people over the coals for that makes her look really bad. It is her bad behaving that brings her under fire in my book but not her personhood, which is what the imposter is attacking.

Marko said...

Anon. 3:52....

I am no fan of the real Christine either, and wish she would do as anon 5:05 says, and just leave.

But I am especially no fan of mean-spirited disrupters who use stupid tactics as I've described. It is not satirical ingenuity and it is most certainly not a breath of fresh air.

Anonymous said...

The No, 1 goal of the Georgia Guidestones is to...

'Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature.'


(The Georgia Guidestones is a granite monument erected in 1980 in Elbert County, Georgia, in the United States. A set of ten guidelines is inscribed on the structure in eight modern languages, and a shorter message is inscribed at the top of the structure in four ancient language scripts: Babylonian, Classical Greek, Sanskrit, and Egyptian hieroglyphs.)


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgia_Guidestones







Anonymous said...

It looks like Christine's account has definitely been hacked. I can tell the difference though... as the real Christine uses the word 'stuff' a lot.

Anonymous said...

Thanks Marko.
Bad as it can get around here dealing with Christine Erikson's unreasonableness, it is the imposter who looks even worse.

Craig said...

In the following, the author notes that Paul Ehrlich was “my former colleague at Stanford University”, then goes on to discuss Holdren:

President Obama's Bizarre "Science Czar": Dr. John R Holdren, Professional Alarmist

[In Holdren’s] 1973 book, co-authored with the Ehrlichs, called Human Ecology: Problems and Solutions, [it is] argued:

“Human values and institutions have set mankind on a collision course with the laws of nature. Human beings cling jealously to their prerogative to reproduce as they please — and they please to make each new generation larger than the last — yet endless multiplication on a finite planet is impossible. Most humans aspire to greater material prosperity, but the number of people that can be supported on Earth if everyone is rich is even smaller than if everyone is poor.”

Their solution, if you can believe it, was to make everyone poor. They argued that the West should be “de-developed,” by which they meant that countries like the U.S. should have their economies deliberately dismantled and their wealth redistributed to the poor at home and abroad.

But their big push was for population control. The publication of the book predated the Roe v. Wade decision, and the authors strongly argued for legalizing abortion as a population control measure. They suggest that abortion cannot really be considered the taking of a human life, on the grounds that neither the fetus, nor the newborn, nor the toddler, is truly human anyway: “The fetus, given the opportunity to develop properly before birth, and given the essential early socializing experiences and sufficient nourishing food during the crucial early years after birth, will ultimately develop into a human being,” write the authors…


In typical hypocrisy, I note that Holdren has 2 children.

[cont]

Craig said...

[cont]

Coincidentally, of late I’ve been reading about Social Trinitarianism. While there are many variations on this theory/belief, a common practice is to impose a particular worldview of socialization – one not incompatible with New Age ideals – onto the Trinity and then project this back onto humanity as the model by which to live. (This practice of double projection was astutely observed by Karen Kilby.) Generally, the theory/belief is that the Trinity is a made up of three distinct Persons, each with a separate consciousness, will, etc., who co-inhere by a ‘mutuality of love’. The way I see it, the theory devolves into tritheism – three gods (historical orthodox Christianity asserts that the Godhead has one will, not three). That aside, one of the main tenets (though not all subscribe to this strong version) is that personhood should be understood as only being constituted by social relations.

Of course, ‘positively’, using Social Trinitarianism as the model for mankind, the idea is that all persons within society are inherently interdependent. Negatively, to live autonomously is to live less than optimally, to think differently is to be “self-centered”. But, there are other more ominous implications. Taking this ideology to its logical conclusion, an individual in a comatose state, e.g., is not a person, as the individual is not capable of social relations. Moreover, as per Holdren’s views above, infants and toddlers are not (or may not be) yet fully social, and, hence, like the individual in a coma, not persons, and may potentially be subject to depopulation agendas.

An author (PhD) I’ve just come across explains how adherence to Social Trinitarianism “can disrupt the atomistic (individualistic), autonomous, and capitalistic definitions of human personhood that so thoroughly permeate our discourse in the United States today.” I wasn’t aware that capitalists defined personhood differently than non-capitalists. But, then again, I am not always as informed as some. . .

Later, the author states more forcefully, “a [SOCIAL] Trinitarian Christian conception of what it means to be human must stand in radical opposition to the capitalistic, economically driven, Western, individualistic, and ultimately inhuman construction of what it means to be a person in the United States today.” So, capitalists are “inhuman” in their understanding of personhood? The author posits a false dichotomy (“radical opposition”), of course.

Craig said...

As one reads the author’s (not especially well-written) work, one not only sees the overtly anti-capitalistic, anti-Western stance, but one sees her pro-feminist, pro-Marxist, and pro-New Age leanings in her perversion of the Gospel message.

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

http://www.wnd.com/2009/12/118497/

Holdren's mentor, more bad news.

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

http://fanaticforjesus.blogspot.com/2011/11/religious-right-and-nazi-underground.html

Abraham Vereide a major player in saving SS from prosecution and getting them into positions of influence.

Constance Cumbey said...

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Susanna said...

Craig,

Thank you for your informative post in Social Trinitarianism!

This is the first I have heard of it, and according to what I have learned after a brief search, it is incompatible with Christianity.

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

Constance, I got up too late to call in, caught the last 20 minutes, but I looked at the
Georgia Guidestones inscription list, and after "1.Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in
perpetual balance with nature" us

"Guide reproduction wisely — improving fitness and diversity"

definitely a eugenic angle on this population control thing. in one of the articles I posted is mentioned
covert eugenics, where the goal is pursued by means other than the obvious, not admitting what they
are up to.

While the original eugenics crew were white only as the goal, though that as top people could
still be done, there are theories that think in terms of the superior in each race, instead of
one race as superior, though this could coexist with a racial layering
of rank in society.

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Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MNveNHIC4o update two cases in Europe and lake Michigan

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=251rNGbKS6w very strange disappearances indications of a govt. coverup

paul said...

If the vindictive snake in the grass posing as Christine thinks that he or she is a Christian, they'd better think again.
It's not possible to tell cruel lies repeatedly in the name of Christ.
The Holy Spirit doesn't lie, period.
You're a jackass at best. But jackasses have some courage so I don't know what to call you.
You're going to be sorry someday.

paul said...

http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/blog/?p=32502


I won't be commenting for a while, so when the inevitable imposter shows up with my name, you'll know it ain't me.

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Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJceuCdgKI0

What the early Christians believed about Salvation.

Anonymous said...

paul, how are them there homosexual urges of yours going? sure are one hellava sad faggot, aincha! wasap? special buddy done lefcha? ya nasty... !

You bin jumpin down christines throat for some time now... One minute gainst her and bullying her senseless the next minute by her side apologizing and all that, then ripping right into her again, an now jumping on that bandwagon along with everybody else..

There's NOTHING Christian aboucha your a filthy violent hearted fag! We all noticed how you gone that extra mile in words trying to speak out harshly gainst your kind ever since you were close to outed here... interesting about your brand of sex perversion linking in with bloodlust, considering your vile violent attitude here... well methinks the ladyboy does protest too much he he, HYPOCRITE!

No you run along and read 1 Corinthians 6 :9 , and realize you're the one who's gonna be sorry, freak!

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

anon 8:55,

As I recall Paul described the situation as staying with or letting stay with him a person he
did not know was gay, and there is no reason he could have known - EVER HEAR OF BEING IN THE CLOSET, i.e., keeping it secret?

and left or kicked him out as soon as possible on finding out.

you wondered how he could not have known if this person was a school acquaintance. I don't recall if he
was an acquaintance from years ago, but if you think the only "gays" are the obvious faggoty type and never look at or touch a woman, you are dead wrong.

hint. you ever land in jail or prison, don't accept gifts or allow buddy buddy from a real he
man sort cozying up to you. you might get raped. Such men generally consider themselves
straight and not "gay" or "homosexual," because they never play the female role in the act.
They base their sense of what is perverted or not on gender role playing, not on the actions themselves
or on who they do them with. In fact, the typical notions of how to instill a sense of sexual identity
that is supposed to prevent homosexuality, is at best irrelevant, at worst helps it develop
unchallenged by the individual it is developing in, as long as he does the active not recipient role.

Anonymous said...

Holdren, the Georgia Guidestones and Agenda 21

http://thegeorgiaguidestones.com/Agenda_21.htm

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

anon 10:06

makes me want to vomit also. But I tend to get on the subject because too many conservatives think the
flamer male or butch female is the only kind of homosexual there is. And the bisexual crew are totally
under their radar.

ironically, the transgender is a total sellout to patriarchal sexism, combined with a romantic notion
of the soul a kind of occult philosophy thing almost. That there is such a thing as clear cut
inherent gender of the soul which shows in (culture specific oddly enough) behavior and likes and dislikes,
the sexual orientation thing developing much later. Then, they decide that they were born in the wrong body and need to get an operation.

The feminists made two drastic mistakes. Taking these and the gays in as fellow "oppressed," and
accepting abortion. the radical socialist thing is secondary, because you will find morality
being encouraged, and prostitution and perversion denounced as capitalist culture things, in communist history.

these sexual and murder issues are far more important than mere economic theories, and the only reasons
some high profile gays were also socialist, was because in the society destabilization stage the
commies would use anyone they
could, and offered freedom to these people, found them useful in getting closet bisexuals compromised and blackmailed, and the perverts hated their own culture
for rejecting them (they being also vain) that they would side with an enemy for that reason if nothing else.

A definite pattern has existed for a couple of years or so here, regarding attacks on me. When I bring up something that takes a point that New AGers use and shows how they got it wrong on that point
which is propaganda useful against them, or to make some question their beliefs, I am attacked.
Belief in electricity being real and working is not "spiritual idolatry," but it is just as much an object of occult philosophy throughout the history of its
research and development as any energy system of the body or ability to see beyond normal UV IR range is.

Edison was a theosophist. Tesla was apparently spiritually compromised by some entity or influence
in his native land from childhood. The Balkans are haunted as hell.
The typical great inventor concern with "humanity" is a vanity, they really seek a sense of greatness.

Anonymous said...

Constance ~

Do you not realize or care that your blog is being destroyed from within???


Anonymous said...

2:04 ~ Perhaps you should stop destroying it then and give Constance a break ~ if you realize or care that is!!!

Anonymous said...

9:05 AM & 10:28 AM

Love to smear the ugly details don't you? Maybe you have first hand knowledge or at least a deep interest in deviation? This is how you occupy yourself on a Sunday? (no doubt every other day too)

8:55 AM and 10:06 AM
You have absolutely nothing to be proud of in such self-righteous behavior.
Hate is always ugly and pride goes before a fall.

This is terrible to come here and see.
God forgive these responsible these posts.

Anonymous said...


Hey, Anonymous 3:48 PM

Perhaps Constance needs to stop and take a 'break' to see what is happening right here on her blog... and do something about all of the trolls and jammers who are causing nothing but confusion.


Anonymous said...

Anon 8:09

dare not criticize pauline? in that case...

siddown an shaddap!

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

http://tarpley.net/online-books/

George Bush: the Unauthorized Biography

Against Oligarchy

this traces the history of the Venetian system to the present time.

Anonymous said...

Roar all you want whoever you are.

God can shut the mouths of lions.

Anonymous said...

anon 1:50, he can shut up the mouths of pigs too and cause them to run over a cliff... so be careful!

Anonymous said...

http://classroom.synonym.com/can-block-followers-blogspot-15604.html





Anonymous said...

that's an interesting link right there Christine 1:50, (whether you're the traditional controversial C or the newer even more controversial one)...

thank you. :)

Anonymous said...

2:54 PM we won't be wasting any pearls on you.

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

anon 5:15,

thank you, its from me the traditional controversial C, Marko said earlier that if you hover the
cursor over the blue name, down on the lower left will show a number code, in my case it ends 117
in the phony's case it ends 663. I think he deleted the comment I might be wrong.

Anonymous said...

Ditto 5:32,

I see you say "we"... I reckon "Legion" is an apt name for you then for without a doubt you "are many"!

Anonymous said...

anon 5:32,

what's more is you wouldn't be wasting any pearls on me not just because if you had any in your possession you'd no doubt be trampling them into the ground but also because I won't cast them before the likes of you in the first place!

So why don't you do this blog a favor and trot off!

Anonymous said...

The illuminated trolls work in teams trolling the net. Their plots are being exposed one by one. Soon there will be a new investigation into 911and heads will roll. I hear Chris Boyle is manned up and is back. Three times as many peole believe him today. The Japanese have included Tavistock warnings in their Anime cartoons. Even the kiddies know about the depopulation plan. They had to shoot a candidate in MO to keep the state in line and even invented a new 'last phone call' to try and blot out his real call where he had no signs of suicidal tendencies what-so-ever. 30 laters they shot his media guy. Not one person believes the lies and not one person I know is going to vote for the Rhodes scholar they chose to replace the man they knocked off. Oh, honor the dead they said...you racists, vote for our new guy. I wouldn't vote for Madonna even if she served three tours in Iraq she is a Kabalist. They have gone into temper tantrum mode.
Keep it up butt heads. Go on with your false flags, go on, you get sloppier each damn time. Lucifer always overplays his hand. Do it brats, make our day.

Anonymous said...

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=v0quVNNwcz0

Bollyn

Anonymous said...

US Navy Sends Aircraft Carrier USS Theodore Roosevelt To Stop Iran From Entering Yemen:

www.nowtheendbegins.com/blog/?p=32589

Anonymous said...

paul reminds me not of pigs or lions but of the Sacculina parasite.

As Wikipedia states:

The male Sacculina looks for a female Sacculina adult on the underside of a crab. He then implants himself into her body and starts fertilizing her eggs. The crab (male or female) then cares for the eggs as if they were its own, having been rendered infertile by the parasite.

When a female Sacculina is implanted in a male crab it will interfere with the crab's hormonal balance. This sterilizes it and changes the bodily layout of the crab to resemble that of a female crab by widening and flattening its abdomen, among other things. The female Sacculina then forces the crab's body to release hormones, causing it to act like a female crab, even to the point of performing female mating dances.

Although all energy otherwise expended on reproduction is directed to the Sacculina, the crab develops a nurturing behavior typical of a female crab.

Anonymous said...

10:04 AM

Your a false accuser of the brethren.

Paul has enough humility and witness to the Holy Spirit being alive in him to repent publicly when he has realized he had been wrong!!!!

What spirit is alive and active in you 10:04 AM?

God bless you brother Paul.

Anonymous said...

Agreeing with you 10:31 AM.

Sad that there are those so miserable and without the Holy Spirit's life inside themselves that they must tear and harm others to feel alive.

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

anon 10:04,

that is very interesting about the sacculina parasite. I wonder if there are any unnoticed
side effects like this of some mammal focused parasites, that might explain some (but not all)
homosexual inclinations of the male effeminate sort?

Anonymous said...

@11:08 AM an inquiring, aquiring, aspiring, inclining, designing mind for evil and filth wants to know.

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

anon 11:45
an evil mind who wants things kept in darkness where they can operate more freely wants such
studies shut up.

Ephes. 5:11, 13 against you.

re paul, the term "rent boy" usually refers to someone on the receiving end, does it not?
perhaps paul's problem IF he has engaged in such actions, is precisely that he thinks as long
as it is not too frequent, or that he does not play receiver, he is okay, but reading some
things realized that this is not what people he wants to be accepted by think.
then again, he may be
innocent.

From JD's BlogSpot on Constance's link list, these remarks are about some videos, but not irrelevant
to this blog episode

"While I am writing my next piece, I wanted to share this documentary so that others could
see some of the ideals at work in technological advancement. There is a blend of Trans-humanist and
New Age ideals at work within the scientific community, particularly as it pertains to human modification. There is a
belief that not only is human consciousness evolving into godhood, but that it can be artificially stimulated."

http://jd-thedevilisinthedetails.blogspot.com/2010_09_01_archive.html

this sort of thing, thanks to science fiction and the comics the kids are raised on is more
than scientific community stuff, it is mainstream, almost.

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Empire%E2%80%93United_States_relations#Russian_involvement_in_the_American_Revolutionary_War

cites Frank A. Golder, "Catherine II and the American Revolution," The American Historical Review 21.1 (1915): 92–96.

http://knowledgenuts.com/2015/02/01/how-the-russian-navy-saved-the-union-in-the-civil-war/

In some peculiar way, our history and Russia's are linked.

Anonymous said...

Yeah Christine, we are all just "specimens" for your "study" aren't we? Who are you to suppose anything at all about Paul? How dare you be so arrogant with another life.

Including GOD whom you treat like an earthworm to be dissected.

Your type of humanity is inhumane because you parade this with no sensitivity in the knowing or the sharing.
That is disgusting.

Anonymous said...

12:33 PM reply should also say that your "knowing" is proving you know nothing. And your "sharing" is not for the good of anyone but only selfishly used for argument and self-aggrandizing display.
You are one sick puppy.

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

anon 12:33

take it up with the person who is dead sure paul is a pervert.

as for dissecting God, how dare you be so arrogant in your pretensions of humility, to refuse
to consider the information God has condescended to give us about Himself?

I suppose you were among those who (or would support them) protested a movie about Christ's
life, which mentioned that Joseph doubted the Virgin Mary's virginity and was going to divorce her quietly from their betrothal?

Which is exactly what the Gospel says happened until an angel told him the truth.

"Your type of humanity is inhumane because you parade this with no sensitivity in the knowing or the sharing.
That is disgusting."

so are you.

Marko said...

Tomorrow is Earth Day everyone!

I love the post over at the People's Cube in preparation for the big Party:

http://thepeoplescube.com/peoples-blog/what-are-you-willing-to-give-up-for-earth-day-t16232.html

Don't like everything they have over there, but the one picture about "April 22: Earth (protection racket) Day" is great.

Anonymous said...

I have no such trouble with the raw facts of the Savior's parentage and birth and all surrounding relationships. But of course, you ASSume that I do.
The bible is very raw in places, but that said there is a dignity that befits and belongs to it and for us for all, yet you repeatedly choose not to regard this so as (at the least) to downplay or flat (at the worst) choose that you will not and cannot afford from within you, to give what God says we must if we would rightly represent Himself. You absolutely don't represent Him no matter how often you name drop His name.
Arrogance, you have. That is making you cruel.
Dignity, none. That is making you heartless.

No wonder you have missed the entire bible theme of forgiveness. You have no idea what it even is and have had no experience with it, or you would be humane in these topics and with personal lives.


Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

"I have no such trouble with the raw facts of the Savior's parentage and birth and all surrounding relationships. But of course, you ASSume that I do. "

that wasn't the assumption or rather SUSPICION, it was the SUSPICION that you are the sort
who is totally ignorant of The Bible that you propose to be representing or supporting.

And your rants on forgiveness, and rejection of Our Lord Jesus' words that I keep citing about
how to view the unrepentant and deal with them (ostracize them) shows you are very selective, for
whatever reasons, in what you apply of it.

Anonymous said...

http://newvoices.org/2013/04/24/interfaith-gathering-highlights-hindu-jewish-relationship/

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

those who argue that someone has to be the boss in a marriage because two people might deadlock
in a tie vote, instead of ordering things around whose stuff is whose and how a decision
might affect the other one, are ignorant of those tribal and national and autonomous regional
government systems that have had two instead of one or another odd number at the top.

Anonymous said...

Like I was saying: The illuminated trolls work in teams trolling the net. AND who want to spill blood of Americans in the name of a global bank for the British by fighting a war with Iran.

Geoffrey Grider
Zionist Shill
Geri Ungurean
crypto-Jews
http://cryptojew.org/main_page.html
John Whitehead
The Rutherford Institute
Looks like the right side of Tavistock to me
Erick Stakelbeck from CBN
Pat Robertson (need I say more?) and his Marxist attorney define Masonic constitution
as ‘Christian’ in a court of TX law
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/18/us/18berman.html?_r=0
Dr. Jim Garrow
(LOL)
Jonathan Cahn
In the true tradition of Schofield, who was hired by the Rothschild’s
to make fake Bible prophecies for stupid Zionist Christians
EXPOSING THE HERETICAL DOCTRINES OF C. I. SCOFIELD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2F7xGHGXHY
Debbie Schlussel (Murder in the heart?)
Debbie Schlussel @DebbieSchlussel
Follow
Anti-Israel, Self-hating Jew Bob Simon Dead. Buh-bye. Best part of his career was when Saddam held him hostage & shut him down #tcot #gopKatie Benson

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

you don't need "crypto Jews" et. al., to do this. Iran has already declared itself against the USA
years ago, and more recently.
SNL (or was it Mad TV?) did a hilarious parody of the "death to
America" slogan years ago, which slogan Iran repeated during the recent discussions about nuclear
plans of Iran.

USA seems intent on spilling American blood without any help, so long as it is done under
circumstances that allow a lot of ammo and bombs and materiel to be expended or even ABANDONED
which means the military industrial congressional complex gets to rake in more dough
replacing them.

Right now, however, the American stooge al Qaeda went independent to a great extent and out of control.
And its spawn ISIS is totally out of control, a Frankenstein monster, and is doing real serious
evil including persecuting Christians. Arming the kurds, the existing and only worthwhile boots on the ground now against ISIS
would be a real good idea, and keep some American boots out of there.

The first move against Iraq was phony, leaving Saddam in place just guaranteed there'd be another
excuse to spend money (which means the military contractor companies who sell arms and bombs
and ammo get to make money).

Anonymous said...

Christine, your self-hating ways make you continually hate (and diminish) others (and of course don't forgive either by keeping a record of wrongs-true ones or supposed-assumed). That attitude is so opposite the bible that says esteem others more highly than you do yourself. So all that hating and apathy about others fuels your suspicions because you never learned love and trust or have been very very stunted in those and remain so. Suspicion that makes you ASSume. Old saying goes when you ASS-ume you make an "Ass out of u and me"---------ass u(&)me. No golden rule in your playbook by the way you operate (for years). That posture keeps you on the "top" in your mind. You do not level with people on the level-instead-you assume you tell the truth always. (that is patently dishonest right there). How can you level with anyone when you are always top dog and not treating as your equals? Your assumptions about yourself are just as wrong as they are about everyone else.
You really need to get over.............yours.e.l.f.
You live in the debit column of life and it colors everything about you.

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...
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Anonymous said...

I have a suggestion... what if we ALL make the decision to abandon this dysfunctional blog and leave Christine here to just talk to herself???

Constance obviously doesn't CARE; because, despite appeals to her to say something... all we hear are crickets (dead silence).



Anonymous said...

" I keep citing about
how to view the unrepentant and deal with them (ostracize them) "

Ok.

Based on how you think these should be treated then that means we should ostracize----(exclude, shun, spurn, cold-shoulder, reject, shut out, avoid, ignore, snub, cut dead, keep at arm's length, leave out in the cold;)--------you, Mary Christine Erikson

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

anon 5:14

if you feel so insulted and wronged by me, I suppose you could do that (i.e., shut up and
ignore me). After all, you don't own the blog so you can't block me. Most of your attacks increasingly
have nothing to do with what I post, except perhaps the last one was maybe implying that I am so
negative that I put a bad spin on American wars etc.?

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

http://www.nature.com/mp/journal/vaop/ncurrent/full/mp201536a.html

problems with marijuana effects on the brain confirmed.

Anonymous said...

You have insulted and wronged everyone repeatedly. Your latest conjecture and insinuations about Paul are deplorable.
But no apology from you forth coming is there?


You get away with it, except that others here will continue to tell you how hateful you are. It's not our blog but neither is it yours, so live with it when we tell you that your posts are despicable and for the most part lies and assumptions.
You do fight the new age. Your own war with yourself is waged right here but you take it out on this blog (and us).

It's hell inside of your head isn't it?

Anonymous said...

this belonged in my post at 5:47 PM
You do NOT fight the new age.
You are new age.

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

I speculated about paul, and said that also he might be innocent, which I am inclined to believe.

as for being new age, define new age what do you think it is? Don't just point at me, get specific?

I have harmed no one here, you seem to be insanely vain so that anyone disagreeing with you even
though they have Scriptural cited basis for their opinions, are automatically viewed as evil.

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3m-ZY0R1HdQ

Gordon duff admits that at least 30% of what he writes on Veterans Today is false, knowingly false,
expects you to read between the lines or else he wouldn't be alive.

Anonymous said...



"I speculated about paul, and said that also he might be innocent, which I am inclined to believe."

Then why the 'need' to drag him through the mud in your 'speculation' as though he is a mouse in your mind's maze?

Perhaps it is because you are cruelly clinical and inhumanely cynical.
You get weirder by the day.

Anonymous said...

Your old pagan views of how to interpret the bible are how I know you are new age. And well documented here.
You justify it saying you have the original religion of the early church. No, you believe in the old pagan mix that came into the Lord's church early on that is the new age admixture of today.
You are no bible scholar. You are a new age plant.

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

no pagan mix came into the Lord's church (BTW Orthodoxy has no opinion on chakras and usually
doesn't think about or know about them it has more important things to think about) in early days,

THAT LIE WAS STARTED BY A MOSLEM, WHO ARGUED THAT THE ORIGINAL CHRISTIANITY WAS NOT TRINITARIAN
AND DID NOT HONOR JESUS AS GOD, BUT THAT THESE THINGS WERE BROUGHT IN BY CONSTANTINE.

THIS LIE WAS TAKEN UP BY AN ATHEIST THEN ADOPTED BY HISLOP AND OTHERS.

covert bogomil heretical influence may have played a roll in some of this also. Basically,

I ONCE BELIEVED ALL THIS GARBAGE OR MOST OF IT, BUT DID THE RESEARCH AND FOUND IT WAS FALSE.

you protestants (I used to be one) miss a lot. miraculous relics you despise as impossible
yet Elisha's bones brought a dead man back to life and blessed cloths were sent around by an Apostle
to heal people.

IT IS AS IF YOU DESPISE THE PHYSICAL AND CAN BARELY TOLERATE THE INCARNATION and only do so because
you have to but any lesser case of God working through matter you won't hear of.

YOU THINK YOU ARE GOING TO HEAVEN FOREVER, THE ONLY THING THE JW'S GOT RIGHT IS THAT WE WILL BE
RESURRECTED TO LIVE FOREVER IN PHYSICAL BODIES immortal and indestructible but physical. deal with it.

you piecemeal the Bible and swallow the camel of pre trib rapture. I was smart enough to
recognize the truth of Dave MacPherson's book and of course reading stuff IN CONTEXT in the
Bible does not support pre trib.

you argue predestination and ignore the free will and personal responsibility verses, or vice versa
and can't handle paradox and ambiguity.

you reject the pope (rightly) reject infallible magisterium claims of the RC and THEN YOU
CONSTRUCT YOUR OWN MAGISTERIUM YOU BOW DOWN TO CONSISTING OF LUTHER, CALVIN, SPURGEON, FINNEY,
ETC. ETC. I can't remember the other names of note your faith is built not so much on the Bible as on NOT being Roman Catholic!

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

and reading the bible verses in context is not a pagan concept of how to interpret The Bible.

ever hear of "hermeneutics?" I guess not.

Fact is, if you never ever heard of or saw a sheep or had any experience of shepherding, then
all the places in the Bible that mention sheep or shepherds or draw on common knowledge to make
a point, would be lost on you, UNLESS SOMEONE WHO DID KNOW THESE THINGS TOLD YOU.

energy body and vortices in it the anatomy of the soul so to speak, are one of the VERY rare
examples.

That passage, in that it mentions a "golden bowl" seems to be a rebuke, why tell someone to remember
his Creator in the days of his youth, unless he is forgetting his Creator? Sounds like the passage
was written by one who could "see" to someone who had the wrong kind of aura and was
pleased with his condition and was one of the secret pagan apostates, or pretended to serve
YHWH but in fact served only himself.

Anonymous said...

You are wrong again ole gnostic breath, Christine.

Yell all you want and keep raging that you are so right but you are as the foolish Galatians that Paul rebuked.
I do not deny the physical.
I just know that is not to be worshiped as you worship it.
You need to lay off of the seer approved holy water and get a real biblical faith in Jesus Christ alone to save your idolatrous self.

Anonymous said...

Yes I know about hermeneutics.
No problem there.
And first mention principles too.

So what's you point oh pointless one?

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

I don't worship material objects. But I didn't say you DENIED the physical but that you DON'T LIKE IT, and think God would never work through it.

EXPLAIN ELISHA'S BONES! 2 Kings 13:21.

there is a crypto Gnosticism in Protestantism, and Gnosticism is NOT about chakras, indeed, I doubt
any of them knew about them.

Gnosticism is a denial that God made the physical universe, and though the prot can't do this, he can focus on the idea of the destruction of the world and us living forever as disembodied
spirits in heaven.

But it is not so much a destruction as an overhaul of the physical world even physical universe.

"a new heavens and a new earth" sounds like the laws of physics are changed. What else can you
make of The New Jerusalem, some 1200 to 1500 miles high and wide?
Oh, but that can't be anything but "spiritual," can't be real.

Why not? Can't God do anything?

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

"Yes I know about hermeneutics.
No problem there.
And first mention principles too.

So what's you point oh pointless one?"

my point is that I am accused of using a pagan method of interpreting the Bible.

No, I interpret it at face value.

And the fact that a golden brassy aura is not good but Theosophy thinks it is, is a WEAPON YOU COULD
USE IN ARGUING WITH THEM

this is why I think you are new age agents, because the biggest attacks always come when I hit
the New Age either spiritual or political at a critical point.

occultists and pagans admit there is SOMETHIING wrong with us, try using that to support original
sin - OFF WITH CHRISTINE'S HEAD!

New Agers got it wrong on auras and chakra location which discredits them - OFF WITH
CHRISTINE'S HEAD!

Agenda 21 is serious stuff you need to fight - OFF WITH CHRISTINE'S HEAD...ER, OOPS,
LET'S SHUT UP ABOUT THAT CONSTANCE JUST WEIGHED IN AGAINST AGENDA 21 WE DON'T WANT HER
GETTING WISE TO US.

Anonymous said...


"and think God would never work through it."

Don't even remotely believe that. You assumed I did. (not pre-trib either).

There you go into wrong assumptions again. Wrong wrong wrong.
You need not worry. ISIS won't behead you. There is not enough evidence that you are a christian to convict you.

Anonymous said...

"I interpret it at face value."

Yes you do, and not with the aid of the indwelling Holy Spirit who spiritually discerns for us. He is the Teacher. You do not have this understanding and it is obvious. You study evil because that is what has your mind transfixed.
You need an overhaul that only the Spirit of God can give you in giving the gift of repentance and faith to believe in Jesus as Savior and Lord and not a 'toy god' made up from your own vain imaginations and 'interpretations'.

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

""and think God would never work through it."

Don't even remotely believe that. You assumed I did."

IF YOU ARE THE ONE WHO DENOUNCED HOY WATER THEN YES YOU DO THINK GOD DOESN'T WORK THROUGH MATERIAL
THINGS, BUT THE BULK OF MY RANT WAS ADDRESSED TO PROTESTANTS IN GENERAL.

"I interpret it at face value."

Yes you do, and not with the aid of the indwelling Holy Spirit who spiritually discerns for us. "

IF WHAT I'VE SEEN HERE IS ANY EXAMPLE OF SPIRITUAL DISCERNMENT, THEN IT IS HEAVILY BUFFERED BY YOUR FLESH.

"He is the Teacher. You do not have this understanding and it is obvious."

GOD HAS LED ME TO SPECIFIC SCRIPTURES AND MADE CLEAR SOME OTHERS TO ME AND SOMETIMES IT WAS
EXPERIENCE USUALLY BAD THAT MADE ME UNDERSTAND SOME THINGS IN PROVERBS FOR INSTANCE.

"You study evil because that is what has your mind transfixed."

I AM MORE INTERESTED IN STUDYING WHAT BLOCKS EVIL AND IN EXPOSING EVIL I RECOMMEND YOU READ EPHES. 5:13.

AND SINCE THIS WHOLE BLOG'S PREMISE IS STUDY OF EVIL, WHAT ARE YOU DOING HERE? TRYING TO
DERAIL IT SOMEHOW BY WASTING BLOG SPACE WITH ATTACKS ON ME?

Anonymous said...


It's hellish living in that head of yours isn't it?

Your vain thoughts, presumptions and assumptions and irreverent heart and manner don't afford you the peace that passes all understanding do they?

Clearly, the answer is no.

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

http://alexanderbackman.com/steve_quayle_tom_horn_rick_wiles_deception.htm

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

http://shoebat.com/2013/09/21/constantine-create-catholic-church

Anonymous said...

Showboat is a servant of the Vatican!

Research it for yourself!

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Anonymous said...

interesting lots of moluscs
are hermaphrodites...

is paul a slug or a snail?

I'M INCLINED To THINK NEITHER!

Anonymous said...

Using the bible and all of your assortment of so called 'holy' prescriptions are not spiritual bandaids, Christine. Your efforts to reform (trying to cure) yourself do not work. Obviously.



What you present to others is that you walk by sight and faith in your own analysis and strength.
That is not the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Jesus offers us His new Life, (presented to us already paid for in full by His shed Blood) not a reform of our old human nature.

Not bandaids but The Real Cure.

Anonymous said...

Constance, we know you look into the comments. Regularly you delete. Face it. Except for a few people this blog is dead as far as exposing the New Age movement. Oh sure you put up a lead article, something that others have written about. Your followers are composed of a major blabber who is short a few points of normal and one by the name of Craig who still cares. The rest are in the past. What your reputation is in exposing the New Age movement is up to you. Those who still support you should speak up and so that you can tell them where you stand as far as exposing the New Age movement. Other than that, they are free to judge you by your actions. Forget the excuses that you specialize in. You started the battle by exposing the New Age movement. If you are too tired out to do more, let it be known.

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

anon 3:18
"Constance, we know you look into the comments. Regularly you delete"

what I usually see is comment deleted by author. not the same thing, though sometimes Constance
has deleted.

"Your followers are composed of a major blabber who is short a few points of normal and one by the name of Craig who still cares. The rest are in the past."

In the past? what does that mean? old denominational disputes? early church info? NEw AGe in
terms of Hubbard and Blavatsky which is NEVER out of date in
understanding the backbone to the
whole thing.

"What your reputation is in exposing the New Age movement is up to you. "

reputation? you are appealing to ego and pride, I recall someone doing the same to me, must be
consumed with such worries, and assumed everyone else is. the issue of having followers or not
was raised by that person. These are not biblical concerns.
These are the sort of fleshly unspiritual ungodly concerns that the NEw Age thrives on, however.

The real issue is, how effective is the blog and how accurate? The first can't be clearly known
unless readers are filing reports and stuff. Most readers don't even post.
The latter then is the real issue, and there is no reason to assume it is not accurate per what
is dealt with.

Anyone who thinks the multitude of seemingly unrelated issues are not New Age relevant, or who thinks
that only overt Nazism and anti-Semitism are relevant, is an idiot.
the New Age is an octopus. It is also good at stupid arguments like one guy who said Constance
was wrong in calling his pagan related stuff New Age because it
is very old. But the New Age IS a revival of the very old.

Constance doesn't give excuses either you don't understand the New Age well enough to understand
its myriad ramifications, incl. population reduction (during which Jews and others can be
eliminated also) or transhumanism or whatever, then shut up and try to learn.

Constance has a difficult line of work and is working on the latest installment of the Hijacking of
Evangelicalism, which I am impatiently waiting to read.

Now, I don't speak for Constance. But since you have posted this comment openly instead of emailing
her which is easy to do, I see no reason not to say something.

Anonymous said...

@ anon 3;18,

Hi Dotty Dorothy,

is it you again with your trademark bile of envy?

Anonymous said...

And of course MCE the boring as hell resident gnostic, not to mention most always wrong, in a ignorant defense of Constance whose work does not need it, has to immediately fire off a reply.
This blogs own comedy of errors. ;)

Anonymous said...

Well, now we know Constance operates under the name of Christine. Good to know.

Anonymous said...

So sorry Christine/Constance, I don't have the patience to read the blah blah blah on this blog and answer it. The exposure of New Age is being exposed elsewhere where I go.

Anonymous said...

5:03 "... a ignorant defense... "?

TOOT, TOOT... now we see WHO THIS BLOG 'S COMEDY OF ERRORS IS.

NEED A MIRROR?

Anonymous said...

At least Dorothy knows the topic and has spoken to that, but Christine spreads her old pagan religion, that is cornerstone new age, plus her own personal bitterness at you name it, to the point of putting this blog into a comatose state.

Anonymous said...

comedy of errors
phrase of comedy

1.
a situation made amusing by bungling and incompetence.

You pathetic stab at "fighting the new age" is this blogs comedy of errors of you the resident gnostic.

Anonymous said...

And don't forget that another very new age topic we must know much more about is Mars.
It would be to our peril not to pursue knowing everything about that.

Anonymous said...

Lol, 6:10 PM! ��

Anonymous said...

http://m.youtube.com/watch?

v=La9MdlLRJ4gttp://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TPQk3LeSgz0

http://m.youtube.com/results?q=toronto%20blessing%20exposed&sm=1

Anonymous said...

http://gabrielmorris.blogspot.ca/2014/08/get-real-about-new-age-movement.html

Here is a blogger for Mary to bombard.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tXHSNvV1Fww

Anonymous said...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CiKTvoHJsnc

At 29 minutes it explains using your chakras as weapons, Christine.
I know your inquiring mind wants to know.
Glad I could help out ;).

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Anonymous said...

Christine, everything about chakras is New Age!

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

http://politicallyunclassifiable.blogspot.com/2015/02/your-chakras-target-of-new-age-deception.html

18 New Age Lies http://www.scribd.com/doc/15598452/Eighteen-New-Age-Lies-An-Occult-Attack-on-Christianity is an important read, and lie no. 18 is that you need to open your chakras so

"Spirit" can enter. This is NOT the Holy Spirit, Who is YHWH the Third Person of YHWH The Holy

Trinity, this is some creature who is a deceiver and evil. The Holy Spirit needs no chakra work to be

in you, only acceptance of Jesus Christ of The Bible as your Lord (and therefore your savior).

"No one should open any of his or her chakras at any time for any reason, All such openings allow

psychic entities to enter. This is why the puppet-masters behind the New Age Movement are so keen

to get people to open one of their chakras. This danger applies as much to the Third Eye and Crown

chakras as it does to any of the lower chakras. The Holy Spirit does not need a chakra to enter the

body. The grace of Our Lord Jesus Christ does not need a chakra to sanctify and protect us.

"So who does need an open chakra? The answer should be obvious - Lucifer."

Before anyone argues that this name means light bearer, or that satan and lucifer are not the same

beings, remember that lucifer was once an unfallen angel, but having fallen in love with his own

beauty and ascribed it to himself and not to YHWH God, the angel fell through pride, deciding

to exalt his throne above that of God, but was cast down instead. The argument that this refers

only to the king of Tyre, to who the prophecy was made, fails, because initially the statements

make sense as directed to a human king, but then change to things that can only refer to an immortal

spirit being. Apparently the king of Tyre was what Malachi Martin called "perfectly possessed."

Ha-satan means the adversary, the adversary of God and also of mankind, who he hates as God's

images on earth, and because God loves us. It is the same being as lucifer, and lucifer bears a

false mind scattering, deluding light. True light lets you see things better, false light clouds and

blurs and deceives. Some demons (many angels fell with the devil) are more out in the open, others

more seductive and deceiving and if one has overcome vices and mastered virtues they then take

you down by the sin of PRIDE.

Robert Pye the author continues, "the same cunning trick is also used by the New Age movement,

to damage one's aura, to create a tear or a fault line that the dark force [or false light force] can use

to gain access. This is often done under the guise of co-called spiritual healing, such as that

practiced by Reiki."

What I particularly like about this article, is that it does not deny the existence of the energy body,

but warns that the New Age teachings on what is healthy or not for it are WRONG.

the entire article this is from is https://archive.org/stream/ThePlannedDestructionOfChristianityInIreland/ThePlannedDestructionOfChristianityInIreland_djvu.txt

Anonymous said...

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KjvupinA378

http://www.katinkahesselink.net/his/influence-theosophy.html

Anonymous said...

http://www.theosophy-ult.org.uk/book-review/isis-unveiled/

Nice quote linking evolution and Theosophy.

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

not interested in the video subject, but that link to a list of famous people in the theosophical
society, or close enough to it that their own "grapevine" as the author calls it considered their
own should be viewed with caution, anything they were involved in ditto.

In modern times it is quantum physics that is hijacked for use by their propagandists, and maybe
some things about it put to work in internal visualization to make unwholesome changes in themselves.
anyone who has done drugs knows that they can make you feel good, but in the long run it goes bad.
THERE IS SUCH A THING AS FALSE PEACE. Any hunter knows that the best lures for an animal are things
that are pleasing to them.

But in the old days it was magnetism and electricity that were the object of interest for
all this. Most really old time occult philosophy stuff was heavily into such schemes and because of the positive negative
poles of magnets and electric flow and relating all nature
and humans to this heavily sexist as well.
As St. Basil the Great put it, if there is some fifth element called aether, it is just another
creature of God and not to be worshipped.

Anonymous said...

Christina has 60 posts out of the previous 144 posts. That's almost 42% of all posts. This is nothing new. It's like this on almost every thread for God knows how long.

This is absolutely RIDICULOUS that this is allowed to continue!!

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

all you anonymice who waste space on criticizing me, not with specific facts or arguments but
with mere snarky remarks are wasting even more space.

Trying to leave out remarks with some reasonable discussion attempt, I count around 59 anti Christine posts.

And I think in counting Christine posts you are counting also the fake Christine, who doesn't count.

Anonymous said...

Oh please Christina!!!

Very RARELY does anyone engage you in decent conversation because you have turned everyone off!!

I have never seen anyone stay around a place where virtually NO ONE is interested or cares to engage.

Why do you stay?

It's surely not because you are enlightening anyone. And if you hope to do so, I would have thought you would have noticed that it's not working.

I'm sorry but, this blog would be much better if you would leave.

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

I have engaged on several occasions. When I refute your positions you don't want to hear
it. to you, not accepting you as the Magisterium to bow to is "turning everyone off."

Some time ago I was challenged to provide Scripture for the contemporaneous four beasts and
their implications in Daniel 7

I did so, verse by verse walked through the whole thing.

And then was told I had not done so. WHAT LIARS YOU ARE! this lie was even repeated again later.

Anonymous said...


"Some time ago I was challenged to provide Scripture for the contemporaneous four beasts and
their implications in Daniel 7"

You----screwed------that----up!
And were told why.
Because to understand Daniel 7 you need other prophecies from other books, old and new testament to unlock it!!! Scripture dovetails scripture. You could produce none of them to support what you were saying!!!!!!!!!!!!!

IT IS GOD'S BOOK NOT YOURS! And won't be understood by your "analysis" it is Spiritually Discerned like the Word says, so that is why you prove so ignorant with it. You are not Spirit led to know it or that witness would bear fruit and all you sow is confusion.


That is why you are so easily dismissed because so unproductive to work with.
You have the superior attitude that you already know the subject when actually you prove yourself you are ignorant of it!
You flunked at prophecy big time.............like nearly every other topic.
You're not open to reason.
Not a valuable part of any discussion.
Period!

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

Sure you have to look at ALL the other relevant prophecies - and you have to make it all fit, and not
by what your protestant magisterium declares either.

Its the prophecy self proclaimed experts who screwed up over and over. (The latest nonsense is the blood
moons thing. some times something happened in that time frame, sometimes nothing happened. Its
just a normal event anyway.

THEIR PREMISE IS THE VERSE ABOUT THE SUN GOING DARK AND THE MOON BEING TURNED TO BLOOD,

AND SINCE THIS HAPPENS ALL THE TIME ANYWAY over decades THIS HAS TO REFER TO SOMETHING EXTREMELY
UNUSUAL, A SUPERNATURAL EVENT.

you can yell all you want about secularists and humanists having an anti miraculous bias, but your
own prophecy experts have the same bias! they look for natural phenomenon to explain prophecies!

The darkness that fell when Jesus died on the Cross was no eclipse and it lasted longer than any
eclipse and the sun and moon were in the wrong positions to allow an eclipse SO IT WAS SUPERNATURAL.

duh.

apply that to other matters.

Now, Daniel makes clear the things that are obscure in the other prophecies, future to them
but past to us already fulfilled, and other things that are future to us.

the kingdom of heaven is SET UP or begun in the days of the Roman empire, the iron legs and iron
and clay feet of the statue. there is no segue into the Judgement is there?

But in the four beasts vision, it ends with persecution of the saints until Jesus comes back,
which rules out pretrib rapture, and then shows the Judgement and ruling by the saints.

THIS IS NOT A REHASH OF THE STATUE, AND WHY WOULD THERE BE ANY REHASH OF THE STATUE
God doesn't do that much redundancy.

Sure you can "spiritually discern" (meaning deceive yourself) that all this means is
that the church rules on earth either in an amil or postmil sense, that it is all "spiritual" not literal, an error that is only partly correct we have the foretaste of God's Church as outpost of the Kingdom of Heaven and the Kingdom of Heaven in us but that is the FORETASTE the initial phase, taking this as all there is, is the error of Augustine, reacting to Jesus taking too long by human
standards to get back, and of someone who was too much into Origen spiritualization and
allegorization of everything (gnostic presuppositions that dislike a mere physical rule on earth).

But as for "spiritually discerned," READ THE CONTEXT.

1 Corinthians CHAPTER TWO not just 1 Cor 2:14 This spiritual discernment is not about what
you say it is, THE BIBLE SAYS IT IS ABOUT BELIEVING JESUS AND HIS RESURRECTION AND OUR FUTURE
RESURRECTION AND LIFE IN HIS ETERNAL KINGDOM.

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qTdx2B0NT4

chris white the contemporaneous beast view, this is what cued me to this, and then I went looking
for those who could identify them. Almost all nailed the eagle winged lion as US/UK, on the
basis of arguments that made sense. I don't care how many they were, that doesn't matter.

The bear is obvious, the leopard
is harder to nail the final empire that the antichrist will
gain power over and then use to his purposes gaining power by flatteries does not exist yet.
Though the beginnings of it may exist.

If the attributions are correct, they come from the four directions west, north and east.
So the fourth empire comes from the south. The beast is something Daniel can't compare to anything,
so probably mokele mbembe will be discovered and be the national animal of the empire.

The ten horns as I think all prophecy interpreters say, point to the beast in revelation, which
has the body of a leopard, feet of a bear and mouth of a lion. IN OTHER WORDS, ITS INFRASTRUCTURE WILL
BE CHINESE, ITS WEAPONRY RUSSIAN IN ORIGIN OF DESIGN (I needed help on that one, someone online
pointed out that the feet of a predator are its weapons, not just its teeth but talons), and
IT WILL EITHER SPEAK ENGLISH, OR BE USING ANGLO AMERICAN PRETENSIONS OR PHILOSOPHY,
POLITICAL ELITIST OR FAKE DEMOCRACY OR ECONOMIC OF ONE SORT OR ANOTHER.

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Anonymous said...


then there are the chakra singing bowls, rescued from Tibet when the Chinese invaded, that foretell the return of the Bhavacakra... legend says
the rolls of his belly are fossilised as the green mountains of Bhutan... and the long rivers are collectively his long neck.

for millennia
he has wondered the ether
as a ghost ready to devour the world and is said to have reincarnated
as the final Dalai Lama.

his motif is of a golden winged
oriental lion leaping from the glare of a great red sun!

it's legend he will unroll the scroll of chakras and release the
collective kundalini of all life forms on Earth.

COULD THIS BE THE MAITRAYA BUDDHA the unsaved are waiting for?

Anonymous said...

to be in prophecy in the Bible, other than a sentence or half sentence side mention, you have to be in the Middle East or a major player in the Middle East.

UK got the ball rolling to establish Israel in its land, though at one point tried to stop
immigration there. the US supported Israel thereafter, and UK and France shaped the entire Middle Eastern map (Sykes-Picot agreement after breaking up the Ottoman empire.

Russia has tangled with Turkey before in tsarist times, and may do so again. It is already active
in the Middle East in opposing regime change in Syria, and China is helping in this. China is
supportive of Iran for oil reasons. (China is also heavily involved in Africa.) Turkey just bought some weapons from China
(wily Chinese sold them out of date stuff) and probably has aggressor intent. Russia's imperial
history has been mostly based on reaction and security issues, Erdogan is secretly supporting ISIS,
which has designs on Russia as well as Rome and the rest of Europe and the USA, so the likelihood
of war becomes obvious, despite the gas pipeline deal.

China has a jihadi problem it is addressing aggressively and has opened an embassy or consulate in
the Kurdish autonomous region of Iraq and may eventually back Kurdish nationalism. It may also
take the fight against jihad to its home in the Middle East and get involved in fighting Boko
Haram in Africa.

The stage is set for both to become major and permanent fixtures in the Middle East.
And the rapid increase of Christianity in China may mean China is ripe for a Constantine
event (national conversion or at least making Christianity a favored protected religion, with
or without a miracle being involved). This would give it even
more reason to take an interest in the Middle East.

Anonymous said...

The bloods moons are signs only to point to the soon coming of Christ and not to trigger specific events. Some may try to teach otherwise but that is all they are presently showing us. They are lined up with jewish high holy days however,so they are telling us that the bible has the message of what things to watch for. Jesus said let the reader understand. So you need the Spirit of God to show you your error because your understanding of the bible (any and every part of it) is nil.
And..more than trying to figure God out instead you better concentrate on getting your heart right, Christine. Then, and only then, you will be teachable by the Holy Spirit (to know something true).
Jesus is coming sooner than you think so you best find those knees and lose the pride.

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

they do not always line up with Jewish high holy days. mostly they don't, and this year is only
unusual in that they line up with four but most years don't even hit one.

this has happened many times before, sometimes something unusual, whether good or bad,
happens regarding the Jews before or after, but some of those times nothing happened. google the
subject you will find one debunker goes into details. Might
be Chris White's video on the matter.

Anonymous said...

Mary's theme, why read her junk...just watch ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1eHKf-dMwo

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

sounds like you guys.

Anonymous said...

Oh LOL!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPXVGIMwzns

Anonymous said...

That timing is why it is significant.
And the world's eyes are on Jerusalem the burdensome stone of Zechariah 12. This is prophecy in the making with many accompanying signs in ever sector of life on earth.
we who say we believe the Lord need to have our hearts and our eyes fixed on Him. Not the distractions of life, or blogs, or whatever occupies us from a real relationship with Him.

Anonymous said...

The Sacred Geometry Movie Revisited → Spirit Science,

A New Age cartoon for the brainwashed masses, very sad. I imagine this one being played in an 8th grade classroom, yuck.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txGFUpKUa0s

Anonymous said...



How fitting LOLOLOLOLOL!

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

Daniel 7 or no, things are lining up to be WW 3 most likely starting in Ukraine. prepare.

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

take a gander at Dave hodges http://thecommonsenseshow.com more and more of these patriot
types are getting new agey.

Anonymous said...

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NUfcNSTgk3


I dont know hoges but look, Pfft..and the websites he is linked with are all fear porn crap. All the media is new age, UNESCO promised and delivered. Patriot groups have been infiltrated forever, maybe liberty lobby was their first sucess, not sure was too young to notice, still absorbing my OBE indocttination. Patriot groupd serve to keep lists of enemies of the global brain. Why not do a focus group to find out what Constance's followers think? Troll. Go backmto talking to yourself.

Anonymous said...

Christine,


Are you Pro-Moskow in this or Pro-Kiev?

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

In this matter, pro Moscow. Nuland was taped discussing what puppet to put in charge in Kiev
and admitted publicly US had spend 5 billion dollars to help democracy in Ukraine - which
usually means democracy for elites. The eviction of the president went against the Ukrainian constitution,
and it was a putsch that involved people who honored Nazi Bandera and Ukraine is one of the countries
that unabashedly still honors Nazi cooperation past.

Ukraine is also the artificial creation of the German General Staff and Gen. Ludendorff, who
created the nationalist idea of Ukraine and Ukrainian identity with paid off poets and writers.
Ukraine's very name means borderland or frontier. It was a location controlled by Cossacks and warlords and nothing like a nation. treaties were occasionally signed by someone in control of the place, but this is not the same thing.

Crimea was never Ukrainian until Kruschev himself Ukrainian made it a part of Ukraine.

notice the three ribs in the bear's mouth, you would think these are victims, right? BUT IT IS THE RIBS THAT TELL THE BEAR TO ARISE DEVOUR MUCH FLESH.

The ribs the supposed victims, cheer the bear on.

Exactly the picture now, a united eastern Ukraine as identifiable nation that asks to join Russia
will be the third rib. Crimea and South Ossetia look like the other two.
And a coalition of forces that want the ribs extracted from the bear especially pro Kiev, would
of course result in the ribs demanding their govt. in Moscow protect them.

Like I said, Daniel 7 or no, we are building up to WW 3 and the trigger will probably be the Ukraine.

Anonymous said...

http://pythagoreanorderofdeath.ning.com/

WTF?

Anonymous said...

Christine, I respect your reply. It shows courage, character and honesty. Don't worry about the anonimice... there are many who clean the outside of the cup here. Faith is a journey, keep focused on the prize!

Anonymous said...

On the ribs..
Some interpret them as being the 3 Baltic states, Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia.

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

anon 7:11

my post hit after yours did before I saw yours. thank you for your kind comments. my remark was
regarding the prior post.

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

anon 7:13

that is a possibility, and since I know little about them I can't rule out that they would, regardless
of how acquired by Russia, cheer it on to attack other targets it like even less.

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

it like even less should read THEY like even less (than they dislike Russia).

Anonymous said...

Faith is a journey.
Be sure you are on the right path. John 14:1-6

Christine's faith is in herself and her 'new age jesus'.
She's thunk it all out and she's smarter than 'god'.

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

I don't have faith in a "new age jesus" but in the Jesus of The Bible as Johanna Michaelsen says.

http://www.equip.org/perspectives/the-new-age-christ-what-is-the-new-age-view-of-jesus/

this link shows what a new age jesus is.

Anonymous said...

Cuddy testified about Howard Gardner in terms of OBE and the soviet work force. I wonder if he knew at that time in 97 that MI embeded in the smarter balance/parcc assesment tests are set to give points for kids with high interpersonal skills and high athletically but little in any other "intelligence" giving a clues to a nazi education for able bodied persons only, and yet Gardner show up in every occult book from theosophy to Hindu to Buddist, all the same really, thus it is a caste system coming into view now. Huxley wins with brave new world. Or is it Hindu hell or nazi utopian depopulation or will it be just slavery in Babylon under the gnostic man-gods? The kids are testing this week across the US so next year the heart math agents will be on standby to administer brain waves that calm the testing nerves. The data is flowing in real time, data for social justice Rhodes colonial class justice.

Anonymous said...

Christine at 7:14,

I know. :) I saw the the other post and realized you were replying to that one.

Anonymous said...

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6BKVCI882gQ

Rosicrucians reclaiming theosophy from HPB noting she was just a reading society leader, sounds like he recomends sex magic.


Anonymous said...

You've 'craft in your lips, Christine!

Anonymous said...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqPit74onAI


Real horror in real time.
Again.

Anonymous said...

Constance, who is this?

Dr. Marlene McMillan

Constance Cumbey said...

To 12:31 pm -- catching up in backwards fashion, last is first! Up to now, I was not familiar with Dr. MacMillan. I just googled her and see there is a lot out there, so I guess I will have to familiarize myself with her. Who is she to you?

Constance

Anonymous said...

Not sure, she has a lecture which is linked to a website that was recommended to be by a known Masonic group several years ago. The web name is similar to a Harvard-linked site, And they have a link on a website next to another suspicious website that I know something about and the website they are both linked on together is for a group making one of David Bay's new movies.

http://exodusmandate.org/

So I was wondering if she is real new age. Her website is all purple and her messages sound new age like.

Anonymous said...

http://www.nehemiahinstitute.com/index.php

yes and the above links looks scary as well.

Anonymous said...

http://www.nehemiahinstitute.com/OtherSites.php

None of these links work above but it looks like the Howard Gardner assessment for the approved thinking of the Chinese state approved christian church.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three-Self_Patriotic_Movement

Anonymous said...

http://www.ruinstitute.com/what-is-ru-institute.html

I see a Pythagorean snail.

Anonymous said...

Constance,
This is a short version, but if you haven't listened to Patrick Wood, I highly recommend that you listen. This fits it very neatly with all of things you've been talking about for years, Agenda 21, etc.

http://www.trunews.com/Audio/04_22_15_wednesday_trunews2.mp3

It's the April 22 interview because the link is cut:
http://www.trunews.com/listen/

He has a longer interview on his website with John B. Wells.

Would love to hear what you think about how this idea of technocracy fits.

Anonymous said...

Here's the longer interview:

http://www.technocracyrising.com

For people who buy into the Walid Shoebat version of the "mark of the beast" you should probably listen to this.

Anonymous said...

Congrats Chritine~

you've got your wish ~ this blog has become a desert since you've defiled it with all the foul and filth of Babylon.

Constance Cumbey said...

I started writing a new post this morning -- my disappointment over the Pope's Earth Day statement to the effect that "The Earth is the Source of all life . . ."

That flies in the face of my understanding of basic Catholic doctrine and Revelation 14 which proclaims that we must Fear God and give glory to him for the hour of His Judgment is come. Worship God who created the heaven, the earth, the sea and the fountains of waters."

It looks dismayingly to me as though we are now being steered by a new Pope taking office while a "retired" Pope who was anti-New Age is virtually closeted in the Vatican. I can't help but worry and wonder.

The post will be up about 1 pm Eastern time today. Between then and now, I have to do my internet radio program for which I am about to go on the air. Joine me at www.TMERadio.com.

Constance

Constance Cumbey said...

I started writing a new post this morning -- my disappointment over the Pope's Earth Day statement to the effect that "The Earth is the Source of all life . . ."

That flies in the face of my understanding of basic Catholic doctrine and Revelation 14 which proclaims that we must Fear God and give glory to him for the hour of His Judgment is come. Worship God who created the heaven, the earth, the sea and the fountains of waters."

It looks dismayingly to me as though we are now being steered by a new Pope taking office while a "retired" Pope who was anti-New Age is virtually closeted in the Vatican. I can't help but worry and wonder.

The post will be up about 1 pm Eastern time today. Between then and now, I have to do my internet radio program for which I am about to go on the air. Joine me at www.TMERadio.com.

Constance

Anonymous said...

Christine can kill real discussion and conversation quicker than anyone I've ever heard of.

Anonymous said...

http://www.noetic.org/community/directory/group/ru-moscow-noetic-cafe-community-group/

Thanks Constance!

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