Saturday, July 05, 2014

C&C "Contraction & Convergence - Aubrey Meyer & Barack Obama Executive Orders

Seven years ago I wrote two articles posted both here and with NEWSWITHVIEWS.COM. dealing with a Global Redistribution Scheme for the New Age.  I was referring to British viola player turned environmental activist Aubrey Meyer and his widely advocated scheme for "C&C" the shorthand phrase for the eerie phrase "Contraction & Convergence".  Aubrey Meyer is a leader in British and European Union Green Party circles.  His work has been honored by the Findhorn Foundation.

Aubrey Meyer may well be perfectly sincere about his global energy and asset redistribution scheme.  I suspect he is.  He thinks it will be the equivalent of perfectly orchestrated , synthesized, and synchronized music to the world.  He is a musician playing one of my favorite instruments, one which I myself used to play in school orchestras, the Viola.

I believe I explained the system well in those articles which I wrote nearly 7 years ago.  I just as sincerely and convincedly believe that Aubrey Meyer's proposed system, which has gained powerful, powerful support over the years has the potential to bring death, destruction, and even starvation to millions, even billions.  His proposed system assumes population reduction and global redistribution and rationing.

Looking for my articles via the Google.com search engine, I was startled to find myself listed and shown as a leading global public enemy as a "Solution denier."  I somewhat suspect that they would not even have bothered with me had I not hit the proverbial nail right on its head.

There are so many facets to the New Age nightmare that I had not looked at my Aubrey Meyer work analyses in awhile.  What prompted me to make an on-line search for my own work was the recent supplement to the 2009 Executive Order 13514 by President Barack Obama.  That Executive Order appeared so very similar to Aubrey Meyer and his Global Commons Institute plans that have been adopted by the European Union, Al Gore, and the United Nations, that I thought it high time I review same.  The one signed in early June 2014 now appears to be curiously missing from the Google search engine.  It drastic reductions in coal use and emissions.  Here is a World Net Daily reference to it.  There are many others.

I will be discussing this on my radio program www.themicroeffect.com or TMERadio.com this morning -- in another 40 minutes.  Please join us.  If you miss it, Joe McNeill will probably be rerunning it, or you can order it from Joe's archives for a very reasonable price.

To quote Fr. Seraphim Rose, "It is later than you think.  Hasten now to do the work of the Lord."

Stay tuned!


CONSTANCE


155 comments:

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

while that executive order only targets federal agencies, it could become a blueprint for some Agenda 21 type activities elsewhere.

Also, could result in accidentally on purpose, lessened performance by agencies that could result in harm to the people and economic marginals, another drop in a bucket to cause chaos and rioting down the road as an excuse for martial law. (which at that point would be necessary, but might not get lifted or might include far more extensive controls that never leave once the crisis is over.)

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

a thought that comes to me now and then, is about that map of what Agenda 21 has planned.

(contraction and convergence is all about this.)

Just what might be going on in those vast tracts of no humans allowed? Supposedly it would be freedom for nature to do its thing. But with no UNAUTHORIZED human access there would be no one to report suspicious activity.

All kinds of secret and unpleasant activities could go on there, and there could easily also be manorial estates of elites who keep their mouths shut, and employ disappeared excess population as slaves (perhaps sterilized and brain chipped and lobotomized) but that's just for starters.

Control of the Internet and no need for people to see satellite imagery except maybe such as were cleaned up and released for public entertainment and of course google maps, satellite incl., would not be in play anymore except for the human use zones. No need for such, after all.

Google earth could be cleaned of anything or limited to older photos.

There could be whole colonies of clones bred to be used for spare parts and maybe even alien colonies.

People who thought to trek to freedom could be snagged and put into work gangs, or turned into soylent green as the combined Agenda 21 and PETA programs of vegetarianism wreak havoc on health. Or just to be nasty.

https://www.google.com/search?q=agenda+21+map&newwindow=1&espv=2&tbm=isch&imgil=7_u40SLXeQEN_M%253A%253Bhttps%253A%252F%252Fencrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com%252Fimages%253Fq%253Dtbn%253AANd9GcSwbgBX5jJs5Vw48hkVrY85FIy5gqeSJwXaMErqp4GyCvAHL55q%253B1200%253B914%253BSXKmpGYSF6KfZM%253Bhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.dcclothesline.com%25252F2013%25252F11%25252F17%25252Fagenda-21-population-control-map-usa%25252F&source=iu&usg=__2jf7UwVbCg6OzYyX66A0amUUPfI%3D&sa=X&ei=dP-4U4WdDZXgoASw_4DoDg&ved=0CCEQ9QEwAA&biw=854&bih=424&dpr=1.5#facrc=_&imgdii=7_u40SLXeQEN_M%3A%3BRSP6E_mIGYJeOM%3B7_u40SLXeQEN_M%3A&imgrc=7_u40SLXeQEN_M%253A%3BSXKmpGYSF6KfZM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Ffellowshipofminds.files.wordpress.com%252F2012%252F05%252Fagenda21.jpeg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.dcclothesline.com%252F2013%252F11%252F17%252Fagenda-21-population-control-map-usa%252F%3B1200%3B914

there are several versions of it regarding plans for the US, but all agree on huge tracts of land being off limits to all human use. (that would include the cattle ranching someone brought up on one post one blog about this, http://www.dcclothesline.com/2013/11/17/agenda-21-population-control-map-usa/

and THIS post is important to bear in mind, read all the comments at that blog many incl. proof of Republican involvement also.

"Scott Powelson says:
November 18, 2013 at 11:41 am
As long as we believe this is partisan problem or that it is being carried out by just one party we are doomed. Both sides are involved up to their necks. Yes the Bush’s are involved and so are the Clintons and Obama and most of the leadership of both parties. There is unfathomable amounts of money behind these programs and the puppets in both parties are lining up to get theirs at our expense and the demise of the American liberties we freedom lovers in both parties value so much."

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

St Paul refers to us being in the last days in Hebrews 1:1,2 and other places in NT point to "last days" beginning with Christ's first advent, "in the fullness of time." Gal. 4:4.
1 John 2:18 - "Little children, it is the last time:"

yet the NT also points to a more distant time than that.

Figuring we are in the exact end of days has gone on for many centuries, incl. some hysteria c. AD 1000 comparable almost to the Russellite 1844 false calculation and of course Harold Camping's end of the world.

So I personally am unimpressed by all the supposed indications that antichrist is around the corner, etc.

That doesn't mean dry runs of the antichrist won't happen or comparably awful persecutions of the Church.

BUT ONE THING HAS MY ATTENTION, that makes me think we ARE moving up on that time, though it might not be in our lifetimes or only near the end of the lifetimes of those recently born.

Daniel 12:4 "But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased."

MANY SHALL RUN TO AND FRO, AND KNOWLEDGE SHALL BE INCREASED.

Exactly what has been going on for the past 300 or so years, and radically so in the past 100 years.

This not as the occasional development locally and petering out and not the travels of a few or the reach of empires.

This has been sustained and the knowledge increasing all over the world.

THIS is the one thing that points to the time of the end being near, given all the dead sure analyses of past centuries even millennia that added up to nothing.

People run to and fro (I understand that the Hebrew phrase is in use in Israel to refer to surfing the web) and knowledge will increase.

yep.

YesNaSpanishTown said...

Constance, you can't say you didn't warn us!

http://www.ijreview.com/2014/07/153972-epa-threatens-fireworks-displays-water/

YesNaSpanishTown

Constance Cumbey said...

Christine, that order WAS for Agenda 21 -- the C&C Movement preceded Agenda 21. One cannot understand Agenda 21 without understanding the dynamics of the New Age Movement.

Human depopulation is a major facet of same. So is the creation of conditions, i.e. energy shortages that make for inhospitable conditions for human life.

Constance

Anonymous said...

Vatican City:

Archbishops from 22 countries receive lamb's wool pallium from the pope June 29 symbolizing their unity with the pope and their authority and responsibility to care for the flock the pope entrusted to them.

Before receiving the pallium, Archbishop Blair said he prayed at the tombs of Sts. Peter, Paul, John Paul 2, and John 23. "These were great spiritual experiences, because we know as Catholics that these are not just dead people"; we are in communion with them", he said. " I prayed to them to help me be a good archbishop "

Susanna said...

Dar Constance,

The moment you mentioned Aubrey Meyer and his playing of the viola in relation to his New Age agenda, the first thing I thought of was Pythagoras and his famous "music of the spheres." On a hunch I googled Aubrey Meyer and any explicit ties his views might have to those of Pythagoras who founded a secret society ( Pythagorean Brotherhood) which taught reincarnation, vegetarianism and whose ideas about numbers were occult...... possibly the origin of the form of divination we know as numerology.

PYTHAGORAS

Pythagoras of Samos (/pɪˈθæɡərəs/; Ancient Greek: Πυθαγόρας ὁ Σάμιος Pythagóras ho Sámios “Pythagoras the Samian”, or simply Πυθαγόρας; Πυθαγόρης in Ionian Greek; c. 570 BC – c. 495 BC)[1][2] was an Ionian Greek philosopher, mathematician, and founder of the religious movement called Pythagoreanism. .....read more....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pythagoras
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PYTHAGOREANISM

Pythagoreanism was the system of esoteric and metaphysical beliefs held by Pythagoras and his followers, the Pythagoreans, who were considerably influenced by mathematics, music and astronomy. Pythagoreanism originated in the 5th century BC and greatly influenced platonism and the concept of vegetarianism. Later revivals of Pythagorean doctrines led to what is now called neopythagoreanism....read more....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pythagoreanism

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NEOPYTHAGOREANISM

Neopythagoreanism (or Neo-Pythagoreanism) was a school of Hellenistic philosophy which revived Pythagorean doctrines. Neopythagoreanism was influenced by Middle Platonism and in turn influenced Neoplatonism. It originated in the 1st century BCE and flourished during the 1st and 2nd centuries CE. The 1911 Britannica describes Neopythagoreanism as "a link in the chain between the old and the new" within Hellenistic philosophy. As such, it contributed to the doctrine of monotheism as it emerged during Late Antiquity (among other things influencing early Christianity). Central to Neopythagorean thought was the concept of a soul and its inherent desire for a unio mystica with the divine.[1]

The word "Neopythagoreanism" is a modern (19th century) term, coined as a parallel of "Neoplatonism"
....read more......

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neopythagoreanism
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THE SECRET PYTHAGOREAN SOCIETY

http://mathsimulationtechnology.wordpress.com/the-secret-pythagorean-society/



cont.

Anonymous said...

Now go to the link given after the author's bio. http://gci.org.uk/
What does one find?
Contraction and Convergence
Climate Truth and Reconciliation
C&C is an emissions management model relating to compliance with the 'objective' & 'principles' of the UNFCCC.

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

www.gci.org.uk/.../Pythagoras_Renewed_for_Our_Common_Global_Future. pdf

link doesn't work because of the ... in it, but if you cut Pythagoras_Renewed_for_Our_Common_Global_Future out of it and paste that in google, you will get the link to it that is clickable.

skimming the pdf file, I notice

"4. Pythagorean-Platonic language underpinning of C&C
Following the above exposé on the natural, i.e. Pythagorean, relationship between natural
harmony and the long-term requirements of the UNFCCC for safeguarding the future and
well-being of Humanity, this chapter provides a series of related ‘statement’s based on the
Chaldean ‘algorithm’ presented earlier"

this is one of the most egregious efforts at pseudo science even dragging in the starting points of astrology that could lead some to using it, and a pentagram in circle at the top.

That this could be promoted in such a, er, educated and civilized context, shows how far down the scale the typical person is in education.

I am beginning to think that dumbing down isn't just to make us pliable, but to set the stage for making people more easily accepting of occult philosophy and occult practice.

After all, if you can't read very well, you won't study up on herbal medicine that does work when you can't afford medical help or it takes too long when free or reduced rate and gives you inadequate care.

But, if you pick up on something real simple like rub dock leaves on your body and turn somersalts naked in a graveyard at the full moon to cure stage 1 cancer or some such thing, you will be mollified, feel in touch with the higher truth of the higher ups, and eliminate yourself from the population thus helping reduce it a bit more since if you keep this up it will go to stage 4 and death in no time.

ah yes, radiation and toxic sludge are good for you, so drink a brew of this every month during the full moon while listening to a lecture about music of the spheres.

Of course this wouldn't fly NOW, but give it another 10 years or so.....

already there are alternative health people blithering about how strong and healthy our ancestors were, and we don't need no stinkin' modern medicine just weird diets and occasional actual good herbs.

The reason we get the impression of strong healthy forebears is that the only people who survived to get pictures taken were the strongest and usually died young.

There is a joke I made up regarding the intensity of life of animals, based on "live fast, die young make a beautiful corpse."

My joke goes, "live fast, die young, make a tasty corpse?"

But with this kind of ignorance plus mysticism plus encouraging depravity and mindless entertainment going on, you could eventually add cannibalism and it would add up to this.

Susanna said...

P.S. Sorry for any typos. I am typing in haste. Be back later.

:-)

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

http://fengshuiserenity.blogspot.com/2012/04/mysticism-of-number-9.html

Good God, this guy's full on pushing astrology via feng shui which currently has more credibility with some than does astrology.

9 has been considered a death number also. But two pentagrams adds up to 10 not 9 unless somehow one point is obscured.

the reduction of numbers to a single number may originate in 1800s pop occultism or maybe earlier but unless pythagoras himself advocated it, it is not an ancient thing. the total numbers something added up to, stopped at that point without reduction.

Before the Arabic numerals, the letters of an alphabet doubled as numbers, first letter is 1 and so forth, then after the tenth letter the next are 20, 30, etc. then 100, 200 etc.

Susanna said...

With regard to universals, there are quantitative universals which include numbers.....and qualitative universals which include things like color, etc.

Now the question is, do universals such as colors and numbers actually have a "life of their own" apart from the things that they qualify or quantify......or is their existence inseperable from the things they qualify or quantify,

Extreme Platonic "Idealism" holds that universals such as numbers do have a life of their own apart from the thinks they qualify or quantify.

Occultists even take this a step further in their belief that certain numbers or combinations thereof have magical powers.

Moderate Aristotelians ( a.k.a. moderate realists like myself ) believe that universals such as numbers are actually inseperable from the things they qualify or quantify, but the human mind is nevertheless capable of considering universals seperately by way of abstraction.


Constance Cumbey said...
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Constance Cumbey said...

Christina,

I fear you lack a real understanding of the New Age Movement and its dynamics. The three underlying goals of the New Age Movement, after stripping away all the excess verbosity are:

1. New World Order.
2. New World Religion.
3. New Age "Messiah" ("Reappearance of the Christ")

The AGENDA 21 leadership was fully plugged into all three of these goals -- in fact, their belief is that "All is connected."

I was able to follow the preliminary events before the Earth Summit in Rio de Janeiro in 1992 because Lucis Trust had regular updates on what was upcoming together with links to their working papers well in advance of that event.

Maurice Strong and his wife, Hanne Strong, Jose Arguelles, Barbara Marx Hubbard and just about all of the New Age gang I started keeping up with starting in mid Spring, 1981.

When you deny an antichrist agenda by this crew, it shows me that perhaps you are not seeing the forest for the trees.

Constance

Constance Cumbey said...

Findhorn honored Aubrey Meyer who enthusiastically spoke there. Findhorn has played a vital role in the New Age networks:

Established in Findhorn in 1995, the Global Ecovillage Network (GEN) today connects more than 10,000 villages, urban neighbourhoods and intentional communities in more than 100 countries worldwide. Spanning all continents, GEN showcases high quality, low impact ways of living that have led to some of the lowest per capita footprints in the industrialised world, and a healthy integration of heritage and innovation in more traditional settings. GEN has consultative status with the UN Economic and Social Council.

With its 20 years of experience, GEN has a wealth of inspiration to offer, emphasising local solutions to global challenges and demonstrating that the creation of a different world is possible!


This is from Findhorn's current calendar.
http://tinyurl.com/mypo8v3

Constance

Anonymous said...

Hey Christine,

Once again, we can truly and fully see that Constance is Not brainwashed!!!

Constance Cumbey said...

Susanna,

I just read your reference to the Albert Pike and Eliphas works. Then I read your link to Carrie Tomko's blog which gave you credit for putting her on to it.

Fascinating! No honor among those apostates cum thieves!

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

Constance when did I ever deny an antichrist agenda by this crew?

planning to do something, trying to do something, and making it work, are different things. Especially if a restraint is secretly operating against it.

Krishnamurti was supposed to be the new world teacher, that flopped. Julian the Apostate probably wanted to be the antichrist, that flopped.
every attempt to identify the antichrist in the past has flopped.

only in the past 300 years do we have a signal indicator going on, of being in the near to end times, the proliferation of travel and of knowledge and radical increase of knowledge itself not only the increase of knowledgeable people.

So at this point the antichrist might turn up in the next 50 or 100 years, or maybe less, but it won't be someone we expect.

And I understand perfectly the New Age program etc. the issue is, can they pull it off?

The picture we have now of the antichrist thanks to some interpreters, is that he appears to be a man of peace who sneaks in. But there is no need for that, more like a imperial force, sure a world govt. could be in place he takes over.

But more likely, war and catastrophe will trash the whole globalist plans, and what will happen is like Daniel says, some indescribable kingdom or coalition arises out of which comes the antichrist, and this is a conquering military force, not a sneaky thing like Agenda 21.

THAT DOESN'T MEAN OPPOSING THESE IS A WASTE OF TIME.

But remember, EVEN IF the ten nation thing revived Roman empire is correct interpretation,

NOT ONE OF THEM NEEDS TO BE IN EUROPE.

Rome held lands in Anatolia, the Middle East, and North Africa.

That fourth kingdom, will crush the bear kingdom and the leopard kingdom, after something has happened that radically changes the winged lion kingdom. None of these can be ancient kingdoms because it segues too smoothly into the antichrist and the Second Coming of Jesus Christ and the judgement. This is recent.

So far, no great empire has arisen that has crushed Russia the only thing the bear can be under its heel, and whatever the leopard and winged lion kingdoms are it will crush also.

This hasn't happened yet. Probably won't until after world war FOUR.

Another thing. Ezekiel talks about for seven months, the arms left behind by the defeated invaders would be used as firewood.

hellloooo? modern weapons don't burn as firewood.

Whether this is before The Second Coming or relates to the crushing of the revolt the devil causes after being let loose after being bound for a thousand years as per Revelation is another issue. But I concur with Einstein, who said

"I don't know how WW 3 will be fought, but WW 4 will be fought with clubs and arrows" or sticks and stones, whatever it was. Same idea.

We are going to bomb ourselves back into the stone age before all this happens.

Anonymous said...

More on the New Age movement, the political side.
http://capitolhilloutsider.com/enemies-on-the-left-false-friends-on-the-right-part-8/

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

the possibility that the New Age crew might succeed in setting up situations where we get persecuted is another matter, that could happen. Nothing new in itself.

Any suspicion that the New Age will fail to bring about the rule of the antichrist is NOT A REASON TO STOP PAYING ATTENTION TO OR WORKING AGAINST THEM.

Eagle said...

Anon 12:08

I wouldn't say she was brainwashed, but something's not right.

She has all this information about these things but refuses to weigh in on the Pope's recent (and many) questionable meetings and interactions.

Why is that?

Not a Pope or catholic hater, just wanted some honest opinions from someone who devoted their life to exposing New Age.

Please Constance, tell us what you think.

Are these concerns unfounded? Please tell us why you think so or not?

You may actually help people discover the truth regardless of which side you end up?

paul said...

Since ocean dumping of chemical WEAPONS has been banned, the first choice method of disposing of
chemical and bio weapons is BURNING, Miss Knowitall.

Anonymous said...

"I understand perfectly the New Age program"

It is obvious that you think you do. But the blog owner, who is a genuine authority on the subject, considers that you don't. In response, you lecture her IN CAPITAL LETTERS.

Sometimes I just feel like being sick.

Anonymous said...

6:31 AM

Good point.

Susanna said...

Dear Constance,

With regard to the Albert Pike/Eliphas Levi connection, I would also like to give credit where credit is due.

Although I do not agree doctrinally with all of John Ankerberg's beliefs, I am nevertheless indebted to him insofar as it was from one of his books that I first learned about Pike's plagiarism of Levi's works.

I believe A.E. Waite mentioned it in his writings.

As I said before, I have Waite's translations of two of Eliphas Levi's major books......as did Carrie Tomko.

Morals and Dogma is currently online.

MORALS AND DOGMA OF THE ANCIENT AND ACCEPTED SCOTTISH RITE OF FREEMASONRY

http://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/19447/pg19447.html
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John Ankerberg, as you know, is an American Christian evangelist and TV presenter and an ordained Baptist minister. I have some of his books in my personal library.

As far as I was concerned, the information about Pike's plagiarism of Eliphas Levi lent greater credibility to the statement made in the republication of Ravalette: The Rosicrucian's Story around 1939 that Albert Pike had attended a meeting of the Rosicrucian Fraternity in Paris where Grand Master Eliphas Levi was present - along with people like Napoleon III and other people of consequence. This was in the time of the Civil War.

Both England and France had an interest in seeing a Union defeat.

Pike, who was born in Boston, fought on the Confederate side.

After the Civil War ended, he was tried for treason, but was later pardoned by fellow Freemason President Andrew Johnson on April 22, 1866.

By the way, the reason for the republication of Ravalette: The Rosicrucian's Story was that the Rosicrucian Brotherhood had come into the crosshairs of the House Un-American Activities Committee after a photo of H. Spencer Lewis and Benito Mussolini seemingly on very friendly terms - appeared on the front page of a prominent U.S. newspaper.

In the forward to the republication of Ravalette, R. Swinburne Clymer all but swears the print out of the Bible that his Rosicrucian Fraternity is not in any way connected to that of H. Spencer Lewis. :-)

Anonymous said...

I posted @11:12 A.M. about the big meeting of the RC with the Orthodox bunch. Clearly shows that Rome rules over the Orthodox. Read and see for yourself.

Clearly shows by the words of one of the bishops who was getting his spiritual thrills from praying to the dead, that the Orthodox church is just as big a cult as RC.

Even though Constance has listed "New World Religion" as one of the three underlying goals of NA she will not address the big worldwide push for unity, chiefly led by catholicism. Why? Because her favorite zombie in the whole wide world is masterful in her craft!

I guess Constance can not "see the forest for the trees".

Anonymous said...

"I have my own suspicions that this is an incited thing that is designed to set the three Alice Bailey delineated fundamentalist target groups of Jews, Christians, and Moslems off against each other. I have even uglier feelings that it was cynically produced and put in circulation with just that sort of "kill-off Monotheism" war... I suspect this may be a deliberate and well-financed move to incite the target groups against each other" (Constance Cumbey)

Yes. Absolutely true.

But the other angle from which that crafty devil is working is from the rot from within the big three. That is why a manufactured alliance that the pope is heading up is also playing in to the hands of the new age movement. It is a fool's game because there is zero integrity for establishing true peace among peoples. That is God's territory alone and why He is letting the weight of all of that rotting mass bring it's fruit to bear. Rot within and rot without. Rotten.

Multitudes, multitudes in the valley of decision---coming up.

Soon.

Susanna said...

More on Jelle Hielkema.....

Aubrey Meyer's tweet on the double pentagram is at the following twitter page hosted by Jelle Hielkema.

Jelle U. Hielkema

@Dealism21

rtd UN-FAO staffmember; Environmental Monitoring---Earth Observation---Geospatial Information Management; Pythagorean---Languages

About the Author

Jelle U. Hielkema is of Dutch/Frisian farmer’s origin (1947) and has lived in Rome since 1975, where he has been working for the United Nations for thirty years in the field of Earth Observation from space in the context of global Food Security. His frequent travels across the globe spanning five continents, coupled with a keen interest in the interaction among philosophy, science, religion, and politics, enabled him to make a wide range of observations on the relationship among names, language, and numbers with rather amazing findings.


More about these Thoughts and what to possibly do with them can be found on rainbow21122012.org and gci.org.uk

https://twitter.com/Dealism21
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The Kabbalah mentioned in the following article is regarded as heretical by Jewish standards and is a form of occult divination. Spinoza was excommunicated by the Jewish authorities.

http://www.oxfordchabad.org/templates/blog/post_cdo/AID/708481/PostID/13512
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It is said that te "21" in Agenda 21 refers to the 21st century, but I am wondering if the reference to the Number "21" in numerology also has any connection to "Agenda 21."

The Natural Theory of Dealism in Times of Climate Change

15th April 2012

By Jelle U. Hielkema Rome, Italy

Guest Writer for Wake Up World

‘Quest for a better Understanding between Humanity and Nature’

Pythagoras (ca. 569-475 B.C.) who, in search of a more humanly tolerant philosophical environment, emigrated from Greece to Metapontum and Crotone in southern Italy in 532 B.C., is generally accepted as the first philosopher and mathematician of significance in this world. His 2nd and 3rd law’s have indeed been written in stone over the ages and are unfailingly used in calculating and understanding the workings of ‘things geometrical’ with far-reaching implications for ‘things social, cultural, economic, theological, scientific and political’.

However, for the 1st Law of Pythagoras, proclaiming that “Everything is Number”, implying that at its deepest level Reality is mathematical in nature, mankind has never had much practical use. Yet, through the ages leading philosophers and scientists like Plato, Descartes, Leibniz, Spinoza, Copernicus, Galileo, Newton and Kepler, just to name a few, have all directly or indirectly addressed the issue of there being something truly determinant outside of what mankind has come up with in terms of philosophy, science and theology to explain the workings of the Universe, and our world as integral part of it.

It is demonstrated that indeed nothing happens by chance and that Pythagoras’ 1st Law has a direct and significant bearing on all that is happening under the Sun. This on the basis of some of Spinoza’s highly authoritative core philosophical pronouncements, gathered from his ‘Theological-Political Treatise’ of 1669 and his ‘Ethica’ of 1677. According to the Kabbalah numerology, the name SPINOZA is a 5/32, the Mercury vibration, representing ‘Reason” and ‘Communication’.


cont.

Susanna said...

cont.

Spinoza’s core parameters for the Universe are: ‘SUBSTANCE’, a 5/32; ‘ATTRIBUTES’, a 5/32 and ‘MODES’, a 5/23. The number 32 was bestowed with the name ‘Communication’ and the 23 with the powerful name ‘The Royal Star of the Lion’.The combination of these three ”quantities” make, following the Kabbalah method of numerology, a 6/33, being the same as Spinoza’s full name BARUCH DE SPINOZA. Furthermore, Spinoza’s core statements: ‘NATURING NATURE’ and ‘NATURED NATURE’ are both 5/32′s and so are his favoured expressions ‘LOVE OF GOD” and ‘LOVE OF NATURE’. In the eye of many, including his own Hebrew Community, which expelled him at age 24, the Dutch Calvinist Church as well as the State made him an outright atheist and was treated as such, resulting in an all-out suppression of his truly outstanding work in which indeed the ‘Love of God and Nature’ shines through on every page.

Another most convincing example of ’23′ and ’32′ vibrations is the Great Thinker of the late 16th-early 17th century Francis Bacon (1561-1626) who connected the old and new worlds in Philosophy and Science -without being a scientist!- and was a 5/23 by the name FRANCIS and a 5/32 by FRANCIS BACON. In his ‘De Interpretatione Naturae’ he makes this reflection about his own person:

Having a mind nimble and versatile enough to catch the resemblance of things and at the same time steady enough to fix and distinguish their subtler difference; as being gifted by Nature with desire to seek, patience to doubt, fondness to mediate, slowness to assert, readiness to reconsider, carefulness to dispose and set in order, and as being a man that neither affects what is new nor admires what is old, and hates every kind of imposture, (so) I thought that my mind had a kind of familiarity and relationship with Truth, a ‘21’ vibration

In my own frequent and wide-ranging movements and interactions around this beautiful, if troubled, Planet in the context of United Nations development activities during the last 33 years, I have frequently wondered why ‘’Idealism’’ as a thought, action and results process, positive as it is generally, albeit often somewhat denigrating perceived by mankind, never really has had too much to show for it........

........As a ‘telling example’, below are two key ‘cosmic vibrations’ according to the Kabbalah method of the Ancient Chaldeans. The Number ‘21’ is called “The Universe” exemplified by:

‘LOVE’’ ‘ENERGY’ ‘TRUTH’‘ ONE BASIC ENERGY’ ‘DIES SOLIS’ ‘THE GREAT SPIRIT’ ‘I AM WHO I AM’ ‘THE SUBTLE ENERGIES’ ‘THE SILENT KNOWLEDGE’ ‘INNER SENSE’ ‘SIXTH SENSE’ ‘IN THE BEGINNING WAS THE WORD’ ‘IMAGE OF CREATION’ ‘BOOKS’ ‘SOLAR IMAGE’ ‘RHYTHM’ ‘SPIRALS’ ‘THE DIVINE LOVE’ ‘A PARTICLE OF GOD’ ‘MIRROR NEURON’ ‘KISS FROM HEAVEN’ ‘SPIRIT AND SOUL’ ‘THE SPIRIT REALM’ ‘SIXTH SENSE’ ‘TIME IS ENERGY’ ‘TIME IS DIMENSIONAL’ ‘LAW OF TIME’ ‘TIME-SPACE CONTINUUM’ ‘CIRCULAR’ ‘TIME DOES TELL’ ‘TIME REVISITS’ ‘ONLY TIME’ ‘AT THE RIGHT TIME’ ‘TAKING TIME’ ‘RIGHT AND WRONG’ ‘HUMAN’ ‘ECCE HOMO’ ‘I HAVE A NATURAL DREAM’ ‘NEW BLOOD’ ‘GREAT IDEAS’ ‘DEUS EX MACHINA’ ‘DEALISM’.......read more......


http://wakeup-world.com/2012/04/15/the-natural-theory-of-dealism-in-times-of-climate-change/
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The Number Six – The Venus Vibration

http://wakeup-world.com/2012/05/23/the-number-six-the-venus-vibration/

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

"It is said that te "21" in Agenda 21 refers to the 21st century, but I am wondering if the reference to the Number "21" in numerology also has any connection to "Agenda 21.""

Good guess, I wouldn't be surprised.

I feel like we stepped back in time to the late 1800s when this kind of pseudo science and philosophy was considered respectable before it got listed as quackery, etc.

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

"The Number ‘21’ is called “The Universe” exemplified by:

‘LOVE’’ ‘ENERGY’ ‘TRUTH’‘ ONE BASIC ENERGY’ ‘DIES SOLIS’ ‘THE GREAT SPIRIT’ ‘I AM WHO I AM’ "

can't you just see Copeland with his "I AM too" line getting on board with this one?

Anonymous said...

Eagle 6:31 A.M.

You can ask "please Constance" all you want, but she will not answer you, not straight up anyway.

The blogs name should be What Susanna Thinks.

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

http://shoebat.com/2014/07/07/turkey-can-establish-caliphate/
"The declaration by the top Sunni Muslim scholar Sheikh Yususf al-Qaradawi that the caliphate in Iraq lead by Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi is null and void under Sharia law since it doesn’t comport and it is not centered in Turkey sets a prophetic stage for what is to come and what we have been saying all along."

This is from Theodore ibn Walid Shoebat's facebook link to the page.

Shoebat figures the antichrist will arise from Turkey, and makes a good case for it. Might be right, might be wrong.

But this is situation developing re Turkey, that would bring Russia into play as major player on the ground in the Middle East.

IF the Ottoman empire is the beast that revives from a headwound (it WAS the caliphate) this might fit, but it doesn't mean its going to happen now, probably will be crushed by Russia and perhaps China who is getting totally fed up with muslim extremists in its lands. China is the one I figure is the leopard.

So the caliphate might be the beast with the head wound, or be the background important to the individual antichrist, but if so not quite yet.

Note the article says Sufism is needed to unite Shia and Sunni, and Sufism has such a tradition of near idolatry of sheikhs or spiritual gurus that it is possible such a "muslim" might claim to be a god.

One of their mystics I think it was Hallal was killed for claiming after a kind of experience of union with allah that he was allah, sort of personal identity boundary deficit disorder in play? Seems to me that a lot of mysticism is exactly that, or trying to induce it in oneself.

A long time ago, looking into the face of a woman into New Age stuff I figured out that what the east calls enlightenment the west recognizes as schizophrenia.

There was a TV program once on sufism, which had a brief view of some sufi art on a wall of some sheikh or in a shrine to a prior one then dead, and briefly as it panned there was a humanoid upright figure of a stag with antlers. Damn weird.

They also have a notion of "the green man," supposedly Elijah who visits some mystics and roams about the world disguised, which one historian suggests was an inspiration to the green man in european paganism and saw some connection in terms and practices of circle dancing to the development of european witchcraft in the Middle Ages.

hmmmmm.

Anonymous said...

Solana's mother was into sufism. And I just wondering out loud if within his spanish heritage there are some ottoman roots...

Anonymous said...

Constance, as you tire out who have you groomed to be your replacement. No one as far as I can see. This lack allows Christine to be a rather useless substitute, driving opposition against New Age to wither.

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

anon 7:42

really nice remark, adds up to "Constance you old bag, appoint me anon 7:42 your replacement since you ain't no spring chicken anymore hint hint."

take a look on the web, a LOT of people have benefitted from the work Constance started and many are as focussed on the NWO New Age connection as you could be.

Constance has quite a legacy.

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

" Anonymous said...
I posted @11:12 A.M. about the big meeting of the RC with the Orthodox bunch. Clearly shows that Rome rules over the Orthodox. Read and see for yourself."

It shows no such thing, only that some bishops think it is cool to pray with the RC. This sort of thing is not well received by many in canonical Orthodoxy and none in schismatic Orthodoxy. Ultimately, no matter what deal if any is struck, if it doesn't mean Rome abandons its errors and submits to Orthodoxy then most of the laity will reject this, either ignoring or associating with those bishops and priests who are not happy with it, while remaining in communion with those who do,

or join the uber traditionalists in claiming world orthodoxy has gone apostate or at least schismatic from its proper condition and then of course be considered schismatic themselves. Might be a split involving huge numbers of Orthodox, or it might involve some jurisdictions suspending communion with others.

you really don't understand Orthodoxy if you think any one bishop can rule over it, or that the laity and lower clergy are reliably run by hierarchs who move towards heresy.

"Clearly shows by the words of one of the bishops who was getting his spiritual thrills from praying to the dead, that the Orthodox church is just as big a cult as RC."

attempts to contact the dead are strictly forbidden in Orthodoxy, with the exception that those who in life were in specially close relationship to God, by way of The Holy Spirit would know of our prayers and in turn pray for us to Jesus and The Father.

No response back in terms of verbal answers or signs are expected or sought, and when (rarely) such things happen they are met with more caution than the typical RC visionary meets their visitors, let alone the unquestioning acceptance by charismatics of anything that happens.

Anonymous said...

"A long time ago, looking into the face of a woman into New Age stuff I figured out that what the east calls enlightenment the west recognizes as schizophrenia."

Well, that's that settled. Thank you!

"attempts to contact the dead are strictly forbidden in Orthodoxy, with the exception that those who in life were in specially close relationship to God"

And you know who they were because...?

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

""attempts to contact the dead are strictly forbidden in Orthodoxy, with the exception that those who in life were in specially close relationship to God"

And you know who they were because...?"

Their lives and often this included frequent answered prayers for healing or whatever, miracles and after death more of the same. Martyrs who died for God, some had miracles connected with their relics (body bits or clothing).

Generally popular veneration got them listed as saints, some time later a formal inquiry was done by a synod of bishops as a prerequisite to being on a calendar.

I think some few were included in the list that should not have been, such as Justinian. They usually don't have some big deal event or icon up front or whatever. its easy to ignore them, except maybe for a couple in Serbia.

St. Nicholas of Myra the original to St. Nick and Santa Claus (the latter figure having elements of The Wild Hunt to him and living at the north pole makes no sense), has quite a reputation for occasionally turning up in person.

In one remote village people had lived two or three generations with no priest, married by living together and raising a family and so forth I guess they baptized their own kids or each other's kids. They had sent a request perhaps several for a priest.

One day one turned up. Married and baptized everyone and fixed everything up. But it turned out no priest had been sent. This man disappeared as abruptly as he had appeared. And on the church records for each sacrament done, the signature, Nicholas of Myra.

A ghost story you could say.

More recently a man was canonized by the Russian Orthodox Church Outside of Russia in a city in Germany, seems he was one of the founders of the White Rose resistant against the Nazis who, with his partners, died for this. St. Alexander of Munich.

Anonymous said...

Christine,

"There is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Jesus Christ" - St Paul, 1 Timothy 2:5. So if you want to be sure that your prayer will reach the throne room of God, pray through Jesus Christ. Nobody else, for he is the ONE mediator.

Anonymous said...

More crap for facts presented, courtesy of Christine, who worships her orthodoxy above any and all.
She takes away God's Glory so that she can give it to what she worships.
You are falling short of the Glory of God, my dear.

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

"There is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Jesus Christ" - St Paul, 1 Timothy 2:5.

Jesus Who is God The Son is one who is The High Priest Who makes intercession with us before God The Father like the high priest in the aaronic priesthood did for the people on the Day of Atonement but this is ongoing.

That doesn't mean you don't ask people to pray for you does it?

That doesn't mean you don't pray for others because that would be usurping Christ's role does it?

And in Israel the high priest's role didn't mean no one prayed to God but the priests did it?

And did not God tell Job to pray for his false comforters so God would forgive them?


Anonymous said...

"That doesn't mean you don't ask people to pray for you does it?"

Not if they're dead I don't.

Anonymous said...

Anon 3:00

Right on the money!

No one can pray for for you if they are dead! It's that simple, NO ONE!!

And no one needs the long posts quoting church fathers or EO beliefs. It's about what's in the bible, not what certain religions teach their people.

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

irrelevant. the way you apply the Scripture at issue, no one should pray for anyone or ask anyone to pray for them.

Personally given the limitation i.e., non omniscience non omnipresence of anyone but God The Holy Trinity I prefer to ask God to tell so and so to pray for me.

The general format of Orthodox prayer is NOT from a dead start "saint so and so do this and that" but first an appeal to The Holy Trinity then asking saint so and so to pray for us or "through the intercessions [in the sense of pray for not in the sense of intercession like the high priest for sin] of saint so and so God have mercy on us about whatever in particular or in general".

The format implies first get God's attention then all with Him through Him hear about whatever, if He so chooses.

But I send most of my prayers directly to Jesus.

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Anonymous said...

Christina

ALL of my prayers are directed to Jesus Christ. Not most, ALL!!

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

Like I said, the format is address God first then ask saints for help, then address God. Rarely do I ask a saint without that. And the asking is with the unstated understanding that I am appealing to a servant of God.

most of the time its "Jesus help my find my car keys" etc. Jesus Jesus all the time.

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

https://web.archive.org/web/20120108143146/http://inthenameofpurpose.org/inthename.pdf

this targets the purpose driven movement, and of course its criticisms of RC are only partly correct but in general the issue is, putting self and the world ahead of God while twisting Scripture or taking it out of context.

A sobering read.

Anonymous said...

"Any time Christine or Susanna defends their cult, the answer goes something like this"

Not so, Susanna reasons cogently even if some of us disagree with her, and she is not under the illusion that she has nothing to learn.

Anonymous said...

Pope Francis Prayed Over By 50,000 Charismatics (VIDEO)

www.nowtheendbegins.com/blog/?p=23214

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPg8Si4pSaw

a good lecture on the subject of "energy healing" and especially Reiki. This latter is proliferating wildly and I think i have seen it crop up in Christian context ads or articles.

a key point is that spirit guides are involved in this, not noticeable to lower level initiates but "run the show" at the top level of initiation.

One is attuned to the energy of Reiki not merely taught a technique, and when I researched Feri witchcraft, Reiki was real popular among them, many had both the Feri current and the Reiki current and there was no conflict between these which should tell you something is seriously wrong with Reiki.

I think the founder may have been a nominal Christian, but Japanese are very er, pragmatic about religion, you are usually Shinto for one purpose in life, Buddhist for another and might be Christian also. Being a Christian in Japan might or might not involve separation from the world and paganism and wrong ideas.

In any case, the founder got contact from entities so this is not good.

Seems many millions have not just been treated but actually "attuned," has exploded in USA and Europe since the late 1970s.

the term "Reiki guides" is part of the system.

Seems the Reiki spirits told the founder or some later Reiki master that everyone once had Reiki and the Reiki spirits want everyone to have it again.

erg, not a good idea.

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

In buying jewelry you might want to check the designer. No weird symbols or shapes need to be involved for something to have a psychic charge or be "spiritually infused" and Catherine Michaels is an example, a jewelry maker and Reiki master who infuses her jewelry with this stuff.

RULE NUMBER ONE: just because it feels good, or heals you, doesn't mean it is good. Remember the old idea of the luring stranger with "want some candy little girl?" same
idea here.

If a lot of people can't be moved into violence and whatnot, they can be moved away from Jesus Christ, even from the idea of a Holy and transcendent Creator God.

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Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

a really disturbing thing as I listen to the video, is that reiki and so forth is talking about the people infused with this have some long term goal to be manifested when enough of them come together or reach some critical mass of the population or whatever.

This strikes me as a lot more serious a threat than the stupid harmonic convergence.

Anonymous said...

What part has any;one posting here played in exposing the New Age movement outside of posting here? Where are the sites exposing the movement? It's a huge battle which almost everyone leaves to others. Yet Constance, powerhouse that she is, can't even control the efforts of a poster named Christine who she has asked to limit her posts. Other than the kiss butt comments a few days ago, Christine has taken over the blog, making it absolutely useless in exposing New Age. Has someone blackmailed Constance, telling her to let Christine destroy the efforts to expose New Age? That's the only explanation I can come up with. The Constance Cumbey I knew in the past was a brilliant exposer of falsehoods. What changed?

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

"What part has any;one posting here played in exposing the New Age movement outside of posting here?"

exactly why I titled a blog I was starting Time To Fight The New Age and exactly why I offer tools to unhinge New Age always draws fire when I do so.

" Where are the sites exposing the movement?"

Good God, anonymous, you are either lying or blind.

google new age exposed for starters,
this is the first one that shows in the list

http://newagedeception.wordpress.com/

The one world globalist angle is attacked by right and left where it conflicts with their interests. the various occult and philosophical stuff is attacked.

there are many MANY anti New Age sites, going after the various tentacles, some more across the board like Constance's.

and even among the secularists who have a beef with conspiracy that tracks back to theosophy you find that information.

Anonymous said...

It is nonsense to think you can fight New Age! Our weapons are NOT carnal. Satan is the prince of this world. He will be allowed a short time yet and then he will be locked up! The New Age is an old lie. It is at least part of the strong delusion that will deceive the great majority of humanity soon! You can study New Age to be informed, and to inform others. You have to offer the True path which is Y'shua the Messiah. Even some atheists are against the New Age! Big deal!


Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

Mal. 1:11 KJV

"For from the rising of the sun even unto the going down of the same my name shall be great among the Gentiles; and in every place incense shall be offered unto my name, and a pure offering: for my name shall be great among the heathen, saith the Lord of hosts."

This is a prophecy of the Christian revelation is it not? under what other circumstances is The True God's Name great among the gentiles and among those that a Jewish reader of Malachi would call heathen?

" and in every place incense shall be offered unto my name, and a pure offering "

note AND a pure offering, spiritual worship but this is mentioned with an AND as one of two parts of this statement, so dismissing "incense" as not literal only as prayer doesn't do this justice.

And among who is incense offered to God?

not among the Protestants, unless you count Anglicanism which isn't really protestant, but low church as it is called is protestant influenced.

But protestant influence goes against incense.

Orthodox, Roman Catholic, and such individuals as see their way clear to burn incense to YHWH through Jesus, that is where incense is offered to God from the rising to the setting of the sun from east to west.

protestants got a lot of the truth and core truth, but threw out some baby with the bathwater in dumping RC. Clearly the form of worship by the liturgical churches is not abomination to God at all.

Some specific doctrines and practices are another issue. But the overall picture the protestants reject, is rejected on the same basis the heretics and New Agers use the Bible, taking literally what they want for their case, and dismissing as merely "spiritual" or "allegorical" what goes against them.

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

anon 6:59

you don't get it. There are two points about fighting the New Age.

ONE is to convert such of them and their targets as you can to JESUS CHRIST, anglified version of IESOUS CHRISTOS His Name in Greek the language that GOD blessed and anointed to be the language in which the New Testament was written.

watch that video about Hebrew roots deception, it started with a vision and visitation likely demonic since it contradicted Scripture about the foundations of the house of God, and other issues.

TWO block the incursions of New Age teaching into churches, where it is more easily accepted by sheep, and block its action politically and in the world.

the latter will not be entirely successful especially if this is the movement the antichrist will arise out of, but you CAN limit it to some extent in some places, and have maybe
political safe zone.

Yes as I have said and Cosntance begun to notice, new agers are not a united monolith on some things. And the ones who prefer stuff of use to us, can be co opted to fight such NA NWO things as we both dislike, though that shared dislike of some points doesn't make them brothers to us,

AND IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOT ENGAGE IN ANY PRAYER WITH THEM.

PRAYER SEPARATELY ON YOUR OWN IN THE SAME POLITICAL MEETING AND PRAYING OVER THEM IS DIFFERENT.

but never join because a spiritual link may be created. over this link all kinds of peaceful blurring or wrong ideas or false experiences that teach lies may eventually flow. compromise and fogging of the mind.

repudiate any such thing you have already done.

You can FIGHT the New Age, you cannot necessarily ERADICATE it (except from your own life).

meanwhile, get your head out of your Hebrew Roots ass and stop seeking to go under the yoke of the Law of Moses which the whole epistle of Galatians was written against doing.

Anonymous said...

"meanwhile, get your head out of your Hebrew Roots ass and stop seeking to go under the yoke of the Law of Moses which the whole epistle of Galatians was written against doing".

Christine,,, get your head out of your assumption!!!! I know what Galatians says,,,I'm in full agreement with it.

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

anon 9:27

when you say you are in full agreement with Galatians you also say you know what it says. does that mean you recognize it targets Mosaic law spec. circumcision food laws and holy days checking for the new moon to start such? or do you think it merely means that you don't have to do good works if you don't want to be in rebellion against Jesus Christ Who is Lord?

most males are circumcised in USA for medical reasons and in much of europe. I don't know about hispanic countries. So that wouldn't be an issue.

But do you keep the Mosaic Holy days and/or blow the ram's horn and/or keep the sabbath and/or avoid pork and shellfish even if only on the unbiblical basis that these were health rules not relevant to ceremonial holiness and something significant about the design of the creatures themselves (fit for sacrifice or not fit for sacrifice)?

Anonymous said...

No, I'm not in bondage to those things you refer.

Galatians 4:9
A little leaven leavaneth the whole lump.

Carry on Christine, you have much to do!

Anonymous said...

Israel Under Attack

www.pastorbrianroberts.com
Tuesday July 8 post

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

there are various biblical arguments given against Zionism, relating it to the defunct Mosaic Covenant.

There is another older covenant, the one with Abraham, which is the foundation according to Paul in Hebrews, for the New Covenenant in Christ.

And that covenant gave the Israelite property Canaan aka Palestine to Isaac's descendants forever.

on that basis, Zionism is sound.

That doesn't mean Israel doesn't sometimes overdo it.

Constance Cumbey said...

Christine,

I'm sorry to say it so tactlessly, but some of your posts are more than approaching "diarrhea of the pen".

Please limit yourself to no more than one well written and well edited post per day here. This is about my 4th or 5th request that you do so.

Thanks!

Constance

Susanna said...

More on Aubrey Meyer's "number mysticism" as applied to music.

Aubrey Meyer, Pythagoras and "Stringularity"

'STRINGULARITY' and 'PER-CAPITALISM' - for a 'Well Tempered Climate Accord'

An expression of Pythagoras' 'First Law' 'Well-Tempered' Tuning and UNFCCC-compliance with Contraction & Convergence [C&C].

For being In-Time and In-Tune to be in Harmony with Mother Earth and Nature all musicians really do, especially string players, is to 'count' so as to be 'in-tune' and 'in-time'. It can be said that, 'All life aspires to the condition of music'. Some physicists even argue that, "Music is the very essence of the Universe" Michio Kaku

More about this here

Compare Richard Dawkins and Stephen Hawking. Where Dawkins denouces Plato [read Pythagoras] in his recent book "The Greatest Show on Earth", in his recent book 'The Grand Design', Hawking cites Pythagoras' discovery of the empirical basis of this counting in-tune and in-time: -

'According to legend, the first mathematical formulation of what we might today call a law of nature dates back to an Ionian named Pythagoras [who] is said to have discovered the numerical relationship between the length of the strings used in musical instruments and the harmonic combinations of the sounds. In today's language we would describe that relationship by saying that the frequency - the number of vibrations per second or 'Herz' value - of a string vibrating under fixed tension is inversely proportional to the length of the string. One could call that simple mathematical formula the first instance of what we now know as theoretical physics.'

Here, 'harmonic structure' is discovered as a 'universal law' governing the sub-divisions of a length of vibrating string as a measured and universal 'constant' that is 'in-tune' and 'in-time'. The first two instances of this law give the cadence basis of 'diatonic harmony' and are 'perfect': -



http://www.gci.org.uk/music.html
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Aubrey Meyer is not the only musician to connect his music with esoteric "number mysticism" and/or magic.

Others include 19th-century French composer Claude Debussy who was involved with a branch of the Rosicrucians founded by occultist Jospehin Peladan.

So was the French composer Eric Satie who was a personal friend of Peladan and composed some of his pieces exclusively for Peladan's Rocicrucuan soirees.

Satie's haunting "Gnossienne No. 1" is the theme for the film entitled THE PAINTED VEIL.

Both Debussy and Satie were very well aware of Pythagoras' "number mysticism."

Erik Satie - Gnossienne No.1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2HklxxN2b0
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Sonneries de la Rose Croix - Air de l'Ordre

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcCsEgb2hyg
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The following article is by musician and writer Gary Lachman

Concerto for Magic and Mysticism: Esotericism and Western Music

By Gary Lachman

http://www.theosophical.org/publications/1289

Anonymous said...

Constance, the rest of us know you can block Christine, but you won't. Why? She has destroyed the fight against New Age leaving you as the only person against New Age of any strength. Her mouth never stops. Her brain stopped a long time ago. Is the battle against New Age of much less importance than your pride in being liberal? Quibbling about various religious factions is not what the fight to expose New Age is about as I see it. Maybe others think that is the sum of the battle. Would New Age keep moving forward if that battle ended?

And Christine, I'm not at all bothered by your nasty mouth comments as most other are not. I left that in grammar school.

Anonymous said...

The real story behind the immigrant children

CHILD THEFT:

This, in a single statement, says it all: The children are not leaving Central America on trains, they are being taken and shipped up to America by so-called "relief workers" who steal them and put them on buses and have them shipped directly up to America. There are no "trains of death" or huge waves of people walking the Mexican countryside, and Arturo himself, in the video, clearly states that the police would not tolerate having them on trains, so such an exodus is impossible.

Here is the video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cohL8qHZG...detailpage
more...
http://www.jimstonefreelance.com/

Anonymous said...

ANOTHER BANKER FOUND DEAD

A Lake Hopatcong man shot his wife to death before taking his own life with the same weapon over the weekend, law enforcement authorities said Tuesday.

The Morris County Prosecutor's Office and Jefferson Police said in a joint statement that a preliminary investigation shows both 45-year-old Julian Knott and 47-year-old Alita Knott died of gunshot wounds. The statement comes a bit more than two days after the two were found dead in their Lake Hopatcong home, which they purchased earlier this year.

The statement said no other information about the deaths would be released at this time. It did not describe a motive.

It said the determination the deaths were a case of murder-suicide was the result of an "extensive investigation conducted by the Jefferson Township Police Department, the Morris County Prosecutor's Office and the Morris County Medical Examiner's Office."

The Knotts were affluent world travelers who have two teenage sons and a college-age daughter. A close friend of the family who lives in Dublin, Ohio told The Star-Ledger a detective interviewed him in person about the couple Monday afternoon.

Alita Knott was most recently a sales associate with Coldwell Banker's Chester/Hackettstown office, according to her biography on the company's website. The biography has since been removed....

How many is this in the last few months? 20? 40? Or more?
Something is going on.


http://www.nj.com/morris/index.ssf/2014/...s_say.html

Susanna said...

On the one hand, all the banksr deaths coming so close together could be just a bizarre coincidence. On the other hand, it could be something more sinister.

Here is one theory on the banker death epidemic.......from Russia Today of all places.

Bankers killing bankers for the insurance money and another look at 9/11

http://rt.com/op-edge/158988-bankers-killing-suicide-fraud/
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Another theory I have seen is that some of the dead bankers may have been potential whistleblowers who were about to expose white collar criminal activity such as insider trading among investment bankers.

The stock market broke 17,000 just the other day, and there are those who are saying that it is long past due for a "correction." If it doesn't come soon, the "correction" will be more like a crash with up to a 50% drop.

Those white collar criminals who are "in the know" are going to get out first leaving the "little guy" holding the bag as his 401k and other investments take a major hit.

I suspect that the stock market is currectly being manipulated as it was just prior to the crash of 1929. The following article explains one way such manipulation of the stock market occurred:

Market Crashes: The Great Depression (1929)

By Andrew Beattie

....Synopsis: Despite the Florida crash, Americans were as bullish as ever. The stock market was guaranteed to make everyone rich as the first world war had been won, and industrialization was resulting in previously-unimaginable luxuries. It was a good time to be American.

Since the stock market was believed to be a no-risk, no-brain world where everything went up, many people poured all their savings into it without learning about the system or the underlying companies. With the flood of uneducated investors, the market was ripe for some manipulation and swindling. Investment bankers, brokers, traders, and sometimes owners banded together to manipulate stock prices and get out with gains. They did this by subtly acquiring large chunks of stock between them and trading them between each other for slightly more each time. When the public noticed the progression of price on the ticker tape, everyone would buy the stock. So, the market manipulators would then sell off their overpriced shares for a healthy profit. On and on the cycle went as uneducated investors turned a profit by selling the manipulated, over-priced shares to someone who wanted to have a rising stock
...read entire article...

http://www.investopedia.com/features/crashes/crashes5.asp

Anonymous said...

From articles I have read bankers are dieing in Europe, and other parts of the world as well as here in the U S.

Constance, what are your thoughts on these questionable deaths?



Anonymous said...

"The stock market broke 17,000 just the other day, and there are those who are saying that it is long past due for a "correction." If it doesn't come soon, the "correction" will be more like a crash with up to a 50% drop. Those white collar criminals who are "in the know" are going to get out first leaving the "little guy" holding the bag as his 401k and other investments take a major hit."

Absolutely right Susanna.

"I suspect that the stock market is curre[n]tly being manipulated"

Only suspect? That is the main purpose of quantitative easing!

Physicist (and amateur economist at times)

Constance Cumbey said...

ANOTHER, VERY VERY OMINOUS SIGN OF THE TIMES:

Pentagon spurs new work on a brain implant to aid memory problems.

From today's Los Angeles Times, here's the start of the article about what DARPA is up to:

It sounds like science fiction: A device that can be surgically installed in the brain to help form, store and recall memories.

But the Pentagon is betting tens of millions of dollars that so-called neuroprosthetics will someday be used by victims of traumatic brain injuries and other conditions to overcome memory problems.

Its first beneficiaries may be wounded warriors. But if the effort succeeds, healthy people too may one day clamor for implantable brain gear that can turbocharge human cognition.

The Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency announced this week that it has contracted with the University of California, Los Angeles and the University of Pennsylvania to lead a four-year effort to develop such a device. Teams of scientists from the two institutions will be aided by neural technology experts at California's Lawrence Livermore National Lab, and by a pair of giants in the design and manufacture of brain-stimulating devices, Medtronic Inc. and Neuropace Inc.


Watch and pray!

Constance

Anonymous said...

http://connecticut.cbslocal.com/2014/07/07/remote-controlled-chip-implanted-under-womans-skin-could-deliver-birth-control-for-up-to-16-years/

Susanna said...

Dear Physicist (and amateur economist at times)

RE:Only suspect? That is the main purpose of quantitative easing!

How right you are!

Eagle said...

Found this on another site and seemed Interesting

INTERESTING MEETING WITH INSURANCE INSPECTOR

Yesterday, I had a meeting with our business insurance company's Worker's Comp safety inspector. I have these meetings every year. We talk. I give him a tour of the shop and go over our safety equipment and procedures.

Well, this year, I was in for a surprise. The inspector asked about our Hazardous Materials Training program required by OSHA. I told him that I had been certified in Hazardous Materials Training ten years ago, and that we keep up to date MSDS's etc. Then, he said, that's good, but that system is being phased out...to be replaced by something called the Globally Harmonized System...by UN Mandate.

https://www.osha.gov/dsg/hazcom/ghs.html

I asked if congress approved this, as it would be considered a treaty. He said no, it's a regulation that member states HAVE to follow, not a treaty, so the Obama Admin simply approved its enactment. We argued for a few minutes about whether the president even had that authority, but I realized I couldn't win an argument with an insurance inspector on a matter of government policy even if I was right. So, I let it go. All businesses in the US have until the end of 2015 to implement this new GLOBAL system.

In the end, he bitched about a lack of guards on our tool sharpening grinder, and said keep up the good work. We talked outside his car before he left and he urged me to fight this...though he had no ideas...but said that many government agencies now are adopting new UN mandated programs...and doing so very quietly.

The GHS was placed into effect December 2013 with a two year window of compliance. The inspector said that basically there was no public announcement, that they were keeping it quiet, by using insurance inspectors to break the news to employers in verbal visits...to keep it out of the news.

Anonymous said...

Maybe Francis is gathering ALL who believe in God for a very good reason which has nothing to do with becoming a one world religion to slot in with the New Age AGenda but for the opposite reason. When things are dire you need to rally around for as much support as you can muster. And I must admit that sometimes I wonder what on earth he's up to but when you think about what we might all be in store for via the New Agers then his actions in gathering as many people who truly believe in God makes sense. He consecrated the Vatican to Michael and Joseph last yr, Michael the warrior, so is Francis expecting a battle? by all accounts it looks like he's expecting such a battle that he's flat strap rounding up the troops.

From Oz

Anonymous said...

Anon 9:53

Yea, that's what he's doing. He's the False Prophet.

Constance Cumbey said...

To Eagle:

Excellent and timely information, thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Constance

Anonymous said...

Dear Eagle,

The UN is constituted such that its member states are bound to accept the resolutions of only one of its organs, the UN Security Council. The Security Council comprises 15 members, of which 10 rotate and 5 are permanent. Any of the permanent 5 - which include the USA - can veto any proposed resolution raised by the Security Council.

I very much doubt that the safety measures to which you refer emanated from the Security Council, but even if so as a dirty trick then the USA could have vetoed it. If it came from another organ of the UN then it is not binding on member states, so the USA was free to ignore it. Either way, Washington had the free choice (without breaking its membership conditions of the UN) of whether to enforce its enactment within the USA, contrary to what the safety inspector said to you. It appears that not only has Washington enforced it but is seeking to deny that it was responsible.

Assuming that the edict came from a different arm of the UN than the Security Council, I do not know if the President had the power to enforce it within the USA without consulting the other arms of the US government. Perhaps some of Constance's readers who know more about the US constitution can answer that. I am British and am writing from there, and am familiar with similar trash deriving from Britain's wretched commitment to the EU bureaucracy in Brussels.

Susanna said...


This is what GHS is supposed to be according to the following:

10 GHS Facts is 60 Seconds

http://www.msdsonline.com/blog/10-ghs-facts-in-60-seconds/
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But this does not preclude perverting it with a view to administrative overreach.

Witnesses Discuss OSHA’s Executive Overreach

http://edworkforce.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=368824

Anonymous said...

"He consecrated the Vatican to Michael and Joseph last yr"

The idol worshiper and two of his many idols.

Hell is gonna be hot...(if people do not repent and cry out to the LORD JESUS for mercy).

Anonymous said...

4:57 AM

What little shreds of U.S. sovereignty that were left while G W Bush was in office, were completely ditched the moment Obama took the oath of office. How did you miss that?

We are not a sovereign nation still dreaming and pretending that we are. We are chained to the global mandates and it is by stealth that it has been done as america sleeps on. (handed over on a silver platter). It is truly a global world already and the last dregs of the american 'dream' are being wrung out and being played out in the further dismantle of the governmental and economic, (etc) sectors. Happening at a pace (engineered) that will allow the global machine to mesh it's gears for the total takeover. It has all been the 'just going through the motions' to keep people (willfully and woefully unaware) from knowing what is happening. Voting my eye! The exercise of futility by our 'elected' leadership. For goodness sake you cannot see that we do not have any borders left? The last lurches of the sputtering and dying 'giant' are horrific and people dream on? Don't people realize that we are about to woken up in that global nightmare and it is soon?

Anonymous said...

A good study on Mary worship and its connections.

the open scroll.com/OurLadyOfTheOlympics.htm

Anonymous said...

Which includes Britain also (that I forgot to mention). There is no such thing as sovereignty for anyone because everything is engineered by the few (with a very particular one waiting in the wings who is yet unnamed--for now--but not long...)

Anonymous said...

Dear 10.31am/2.33pm,

This is 4.57am. Why castigate me for having little knowledge of the US constitution when I am not American and I fully share your views of the UN/global elite? I was simply explaining how the UN works to a guy here (Eagle) who was bemused by the unhappy experience that he had had.

Anonymous said...

Actually I should have worded that differently by saying what I was thinking when I wrote the word you. I meant it in the broad sense and should have made that clear so thanks for pointing that out. You are right that did sound to narrowed toward you so I apologize.

Anonymous said...

Is this the beginning of global VAT?

I'm not a financial expert and the following has only come to my attention as I live in the UK (EU) and have an online business that sells digital services. What I am seeing is a tough new tax law coming into effect which will be extremely technically difficult for many small independent businesses to comply with and there are no 'de minimis' thresholds to exempt them. I am also sensing that this might be the start of a growing tax collection system between the US and the EU and other countries. I applogise that I cann't explain this or a 'bigger picture' clearly ... I just don't know where this might be leading but what I am seeing so far does give me cause for concern.

From January 1st 2015, the EU Digital VAT Directive and the MOSS (mini one stop shop) come into force. Unbeknown to many US digital services businesses the EU already expect them to collect taxes and pay them to the correct EU country! The EU Commission are stating that they desire to extend this tax collection system to cover 'distance selling'.

This article on Forbes explains the situation to US businesses very well.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/janetnovack/2014/05/15/european-vat-10-things-online-sellers-need-to-know-about-taxes-on-digital-goods-and-services/

Since 2003, VAT is due on any and all sales of digital goods and services to retail consumers in Europe.

VAT law in place since 2003 requires a US business that is not tax resident in the EU (a nonresident seller) to collect and pay VAT on all digital goods and services sold in the EU consumer market.

US buinesses selling digital services to EU customers are already expected to collect these taxes ...

"US businesses will need to get used to the global trend of more taxes, more financial reporting, and more regulations on digital commerce."

"The EU VAT system for taxing the sale of digital goods and services is being celebrated by tax policy institutions like the OECD as a template for a global VAT system of taxation on digital commerce, and is already in the process of being embraced by the OECD and other VAT jurisdictions. There are lessons to be learned from the EU VAT system as well as state internet sales tax rules in the US evolve and policymakers consider a US national VAT system like the one which has been in place in the EU for decades."

~ K ~

Anonymous said...

The last video listed here at 1:00 minute, talks about the way forward on VAT on distance selling.

http://www.online-web-presentations.com/HMRC/

~ K ~

Eagle said...

Stopping Agenda 21: Equipping Citizens to Fight Back

Our battle to expose and stop Agenda 21 has grown more intense over the past few months. More counties and states across the nation are taking action against the dictates of self-proclaimed stakeholder groups to reject sustainablist policies. From Virginia to California, citizens are demanding protection of their property rights and more state legislatures are addressing their demands.

However, new attacks have been made against us over the past two months from the American Planning Association, the Southern Poverty Law Center, the Natural Resources Defense Council, and Treehugger.com. Three major national news publications–News Week, Esquire, and Fortune–have also attacked our efforts to expose local sustainable development policies and local activist’s efforts to stop it.

These attacks indicate that we are making an impact in this fight to stop government sprawl. More state legislatures are passing anti-Agenda 21 legislation and more local communities are standing up to outside non-governmental organizations (NGOs) and rejecting their plans for control of private property and community development. More than 150 American cities have ended membership in the International Council for Local Environmental Initiative (ICLEI), and several communities have now rejected membership in regional councils. All of this has apparently caused a panic in planning circles as they try to find a way to counter our efforts. So far, their answer is to name us fringe nuts and conspiracy theorists in major news publications.

Now is the time to intensify our efforts by educating and training activists to use more effective tools and tactics as they take on the NGO Goliaths that have ruled in the back rooms of state and county government for too long.

To answer that call, The American Policy Center (APC) is sponsoring a series of free monthly Internet webinars to share every detail of the fight with concerned citizens and activists. APC has developed new tools and new tactics to counter the self-appointed stakeholder and grant-funded groups who are now working behind the scenes in nearly every community in America. Last month, the first webinar had over 1200 participants. For the upcoming webinar, APC’s goal is to reach several thousand more. The webinars feature many of the best Agenda 21 experts in the nation. Participants will learn who is behind the policy; who funds them; how they have brought it into local communities; and how to stop them.

The first webinar, which was held on June 8, is now available on the APC website www.americanpolicy.org. The second presentation will take place on July 13 and will feature Dr. Michael Coffman. The title of this webinar is “Attack of the NGOs.” Dr. Coffman and I will give discuss the history, tactics, and goals of the NGOs. Linda Stowe LaPrade, a local property rights activists, will also join us in the July webinar. LaPrade worked with other activists in her community for more than three years to eliminate ICLEI and its programs from her county in Roanoke, Virginia. She will detail exactly how these local activists worked with their County Supervisors to gain the victory and begin the effort to restore locally controlled government.

In much the same way as Mao Tse Tung had his Red Guards, so the UN has its NGOs. Now is the time to organize like never before to build a well-trained cadre of dedicated activists to take back our communities from forces that are massively funded by outside sources and federal grants—all of which are designed to change our style of government and our American way of life. The webinar is entirely free. All you have to do is sign up at www.americanpolicy.org/webinars

http://www.rightsidenews.com/2014070834550/us/homeland-security/stopping-agenda-21-equipping-citizens-to-fight-back.html

Susanna said...

Here is a gem from 2011:

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Fox News Covers Agenda 21 Rewilding Program - I'm shocked!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G89FzWTE9cE
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Note that the Bundy landgrab fiasco took place about three years later.

Rewilding Network—Saving Globe Through Big Wilderness: Another UN Agenda 21 Hoax

August 7, 2012

...
Rewilding is “the scientific argument for restoring big wilderness based on the regulatory roles of large predators,” according to Soul and Reed Noss in their landmark 1998 Wild Earth article “Rewilding and Biodiversity.”

Rewilding is ultimately about property rights. In transferring large tracts of land (aka Big Wilderness) into government hands it thereby cancels any rights of the original owners. This is, in fact, the entire goal of rewilding large, dangerous carnivores—to take away mankind’s property rights to big parcels of land so the elite caste might macro-manage earth according to their dictates. In this way, progressives like eco-terrorist godfather Dave Foreman hope to embargo all constitutional rights and drive mankind into the cold, hopeless servility of the state
...read more...

http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/rewilding-network-saving-globe-through-big-wilderness-another-un-agenda-21

paul said...

http://shoebat.com/2014/07/11/muslims-take-20000-christian-families-torment-torture-force-major-underground-islamic-slavery/

There goes that peaceful religion again.

paul said...

VIVA ANGOLA!

Angola is the first and only country on earth to
outlaw Islam, the pagan cult of death.

God bless Angola!

Constance Cumbey said...

Paul,

Word of caution -- this is a dangerous legal precedent which could just as quickly be turned against Christians.

Constance

Anonymous said...

Part one of a series on the Marian Apparitions. Very big New Age ties. Of much importance to believers at this late hour.

theopenscroll.com/queenHeavenMary.htm

Constance Cumbey said...

Many thanks to Susanna for the Fox News Rewilding / Rural land control piece. This item even predated Agenda 21 -- the New Agers I researched starting in 1981 had been discussing these schemes in their magazines in the 1970s which I have collected, particularly after 1975.

Agenda 21 was Maurice Strong and the others encoding their New Age Agenda into international law.
Constance

Constance Cumbey said...

My copy of Aubrey Meyer's book arrived yesterday. Yep, he is into all forms of New Age -- not just the "green stuff." I'm just getting into it, but for openers, there's the Tao and "The Buddha."

Constance

Anonymous said...

Jesus money teaching. Hard hitting!

judahslion.blogspot

July 5, 2014 post

Anonymous said...

"Angola is the first and only country on earth to outlaw Islam, the pagan cult of death."

"Word of caution -- this is a dangerous legal precedent which could just as quickly be turned against Christians."

ANYTHING can be used against Christians. Islam is intrinsically political as well as religious, and it is the political aspects of Islam which many find obnoxious enough to consider outlawing. Gospel Christianity, in contrast, is not political and cannot be, because politics is about law and Christianity is about grace. Where Christians can be in politics, they should be, but the church corporately should not be. Those churches that have been political contain many genuine believers in Jesus Christ, but their corporate political activity has given a mistaken impression of Jesus Christ to the world. Such activity is, moreover, impossible with the original structure of the church described in the New Testament, of congregations in each place autonomous under God (blog comments passim).

To describe Islam is pagan is too simplistic. Better to say that it has a satanically distorted understanding of the personality of the one Creator God. The Quran and the Old Testament ascribe very different personalities to the Creator God. In the Koran he is remote and capricious, and makes no covenants with man.

Is Allah Jehovah? The question itself is confused, because to use the names implies acceptance of the existence of "Allah" and "Jehovah", and I believe as a Christian that no volitional spirit being exists which created the world AND has the personality spoken of in the Koran.

"Allah" is a concatenation of al-illah meaning "THE god". 1400 years ago in Arabia, before Muhammad, it would have been a great translation into Arabic of some of the words used for God in the Old Testament. Today, though, it carries too much Islamic baggage.

The key point for Christians is that the Koran denies the divinity of Jesus of Nazareth. We Christians are to love Muslims, but there can be no compromise about that.

Anonymous said...

New EU High Representative in October

Anonymous said...

Please be vigilant in taking anyone's word, as I have seen Walid Shoebat mentioned on here previously. Whether by mistake or not, one has a responsibility to be accurate when reporting news such as this. This ran on his website on July 8, less than a week ago.

MAJOR NEWS Muslims Destroy The Tomb Of The Prophet Jonah, The Prophet Seth
By Walid Shoebat and Theodore Shoebat

This is really sad as this news is a year old and the event took place in Syria and was not the burial of Jonah, it was Syrian-Jewish mauseleom. Surely Mr. Shoebat was aware of this or did someone simply report it to him and he accepted it as true?

Anonymous said...

Some very important things have been posted. It is very hard for most to see that the goal of what religion teaches is that we benefit individually from the big picture even if we don't see right now how we benefit. Oh sure we can see how we benefit from what the government does. But the government is composed of how individuals act and how they are trained by the world.

How does your neighbor treat you? How does the community live in treat you? Even how you are treated when you post here or share what you know here? The squeeze we feel as we live among others is so important and religion is put into our lives to show how to treat others.

We can talk about Agenda 21 but what happens on this blog is more important because we here share among ourselves and how we treat individuals who care will affect how we see the bigger picture.

Constance Cumbey said...

I do agree with the last comment about how we treat others on the blog is important. For that reason, I just deleted the comment from the person who was cruel to both Susanna and Christine adn contained many lines going:

blah blah blah blah

I hope everybody gets the picture.

Constance

Anonymous said...

Constance

I would consider that post more of an opinion by the anon poster, but not cruel.

If your going to take that route, you should be deleting many of Paul's posts.

Doesn't seem fair to label that as cruel, but let some if Paul's mean posts remain.

paul said...

Dear Constance,
Yes indeed as the above person notes, you should delete all my mean and cruel comments.
The good news of course is that I haven't made any cruel comments, so ...
Unless calling a snake in the grass, "a snake in the grass", is cruel.
It's too bad there's no filter for anonymous ridiculous accusations, with no basis in fact.
Oh well.

Anonymous said...

Paul

You have made numerous mean and hateful posts. And more than one poster has agreed. And once again, because you go by Paul, that makes you any less anonymous than any other anon?

Well, it does alert us to who is writing the post, but then, your writing style is VERY EASY to catch, so you could post as anon and we would still know its you.

YOU REALLY ARE A JOKE!! And there are many here who feel that way, they are just afraid to voice it due to the inner circle.

It's a shame you can get away with some of the garbage you spew back at Christine (I'm not a fan of hers and she is not always right) and Constance doesn't consider that cruel. You have have posted comments FAR more cruel than the one Constance deleted. That's why this blog is a joke as well.

Anonymous said...

Paul Is A Joke

That will be my handle from now on. Is that better for you than anon?

paul said...

Yes thank you that would be fine with me. It's better than anonymous, particularly if you stay with it consistently and long enough to establish an identity.
Of course if you do that, someone might get to know you a little bit.
They would also see from your name that you are a cruel and mean spirited person towards me, for no good reason.

Anonymous said...

Maybe we should create Mr. Rogers neighborhood here? Paul gets to be Mr. Rogers! Hooray for Paul. He's always nice! Real sweet guy!

We may have to do away with some bible scriptures like Matthew 23:33. Its just so incredibly harsh! No harshness allowed here anymore! Just sweetness and light! Oh dear, that doesn't sound too new agey does it? OK then just sweetness.

Anonymous said...

Whoever is complaining about Paul, you should have seen his posts years ago. He was then as nasty a person as one could imagine. He has mellowed quite a bit. He is trying very hard to be a person one would like to know. Christine is the smug, know it all who insults everyone who disagrees with her. Paul has stayed with the blog since the beginning, possibly mellowing because he learned, which after all is the reason for the blog, to teach each other what we can't learn from those who know nothing about New Age.

Anonymous said...

Like Christine has never been mean? Really?

Maybe I'll start posting as: Constance's Blog Is A Joke

Or perhaps: What Pharisees Think Blogspot

Or even: In Support of False Religion Blogspot

Perhaps best of all: Fighting Against The Holy One of Israel Blogspot

Anonymous said...

Well 3:50 P.M. Did Constance delete any of his big time mean posts back then?

She only deleted the post she mentioned cuz she loves her sweet little Sussana. That's why the catholic cult subject is 'off limits'. Who cares how many human souls will be condemned to hell. We just got to sweep it under the rug!

Anonymous said...

I'm sorry but I have to agree with Anon 4:12. I'll probably be attacked by some of the regulars for it, but I know it is not meant to be mean spirited in any way, just an honest opinion.

Would you have it any other way?

And honestly, there were several posts trying to engage the topic of Pope Francis's recent actions but, were mostly met with Susanna usually being offended and then citing church fathers and catholic dogma rather than the issue itself.

Constance was ask to weigh in several times on the matter and it seems, completely blew it off.

And you KNOW I'm not talking about the trolls, I'm talking about the genuine desire to engage in conversation that NEEDS debate.

But, it does seem that if you question anything catholic around here, you are considered a troll, no matter what.

Anonymous said...

We are fighting for our freedom against a government that would control all of us no matter how we much we respect our neighbor based on our religious beliefs. Yet there are those who have religious beliefs that are more controlling than any government could be. There are some Protestants who are similar to Muslims and they are posting here. It may be that there is no logic they can offer for what they propose and the only way they can interact is to throw insults. No one is God's mouthpiece.

Anonymous said...

Pope Francis admits there are thousands and thousands of pedophile priests in the Catholic Church worldwide.

www.nowtheendbegins.com/blog/?p=23381

Anonymous said...



galatiansfour.blogspot.com/2010/11/constance-cumbey-and-catholic-church.HTML

If this well written post of November 4,2010 was only partially correct back then, it is spot on right now at this late hour, as we see pope Francis heading up an intensified push towards one world religion.

Did you not just remind us of the 3 pillars of New Age Constance? Why the blindness with this pillar of "one world religion? Your arguments discussed in this 2010 post do not hold water. They certainly do not now.

Anonymous said...

Anon 9:59pm

Wow!!!!!!

I just read the link you posted and, I was not aware of many of these things. After reading it, many things I was concerned about on this blog now make sense.

Thank you.

Anonymous said...

9:59 and 6:04

Corruption has gone through almost every. thing. now. Everything man has touched, in and of the world, is going the way of all the earth. Dying. But the Lord when He comes, will bring His righteousness with Him. It is time for You to act, O Lord, for they have made void Your law. Psalm 119:126

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

I wasn't going to post for the rest of the month, unless something serious came up, well it did, I can't leave all this Constance bashing unanswered.

On that blog (the particular link is gone and only on archive.org) I find
the blog owner says "When I was banned off there, I remember there was one time, when she was claiming all three monotheistic religions should come together. "

Constance has repeatedly claimed she doesn't ban anyone, and I never saw any indication of it happening. Of course most of the nasty ones are anonymous, hard to ban that, but Paul and some could have been and weren't.
Later he refs some of his posts being deleted, that is not "banning."

I HAVE NEVER SEEN ANYTHING RESEMBLING SUCH A STATEMENT. All Constance ever did was say the monotheistic religions shouldn't be tricked into a war since NA wants this.

(Apparently she doesn't know history that well, the monotheistic religions don't need much help getting into a war with each other.)


"August 16, 2011 7:48 AM
Anonymous said...
No prob. Of course she has her usual gaggle of fans who make excuses for her weird New Age teachings disguised as Christianity."

Details? there isn't a trace of New Age teachings in Constance's posts.

Now what is back of all this? at one point it is stated that Rome is the antichrist.

Whatever Rome's flaws it is not and never has been and CANNOT BE the antichrist because it fulfills NOTHING of what Revelation says about the antichrist. (usually it is the pope himself called antichrist and RC the whore of Babylon. The same criticism applies.)

Solana is not a red herring to distract attention from Rome. I knew she wasting wasting her time the minute she got on that, but IT IS THE OUTGROWTH OF A EURO CENTRIC VIEW OF THE ROMAN EMPIRE AND EXPECTATION THAT THE TEN KINGS ARE REVIVED ROMAN EMPIRE. something I used to believe because I accepted what the prophecy "experts" handed me.

Now WHY DOES CONSTANCE DEFEND ROME? WHY DID SHE LIKE RATZINGER? the former because obviously regardless of the errors that crept in (and Eucharist as Body and Blood of Christ is not an error, it is the obvious meaning of Christ's words, Paul's words, and the explicit teaching of the immediate post apostolic fathers), the core faith remains the same and Ratzinger being a hardliner sort she expected him to put a stop to the New Age and immoralist developments. (Nobody gets to be pope who isn't manageable, however.)

The idea that allah is YHWH is easy to fall into, only recently did I reject it. koran claims allah is the God of Abraham, and the word is a variant of "The God." But being rather nonspecific it is also quite useful for a demon to use in deception. Even Mohammed at one point was afraid he was possessed. The koran is obviously false, because of some specific content, but is the name "allah" inappropriate? Elah or illah is still in use in Arabic speaking Christian communities. But the personality is of course different.

Interestingly enough for those who claim Cosntantine changed Christianity, this idea began with an ISLAMIC writer!

Galatians4 blog may have some good articles, but the overall premises are wrong.

Then they claim Lee Penn is RC which is wrong, he is EO.

I think the main reason Constance is comfortable with RC is her experiences with and the information from Malachi Martin, and of course Fr. Seraphim Rose, not RC but EO has similarities.

the Constance is RC crew even claimed she was a Jesuit Coadjutator, something only a male could be. These people are ignorant of the very subject they pretend to be experts on. Private devotions may exalt Mary and RC may tolerate phrasings applying to her what only applies to Christ, but this is NOT in the Mass.

Anonymous said...

Please Christina!!

If your going to fight the New Age you have to be able to discuss anything, even if it offends you, thereby, hopefully setting people straight. Not labeling them bashers or haters or ignoring them.

And honestly, your EO isn't MUCH better. Maybe only slightly, and that's nothing to be proud of.

You can't fight the New Age and be waist deep in it at the same time.

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

flinging baseless slanders around like that Galatians4 blog does isn't discussion or setting anything right.

and if you think EO is New Age then you don't know anything about either of them. (deviant individual tendencies getting into print and claiming their twistings of patristic writing are Orthodox to the contrary notwithstanding, and the Desert Fathers DID NOT TEACH THE MODERN CONTEMPLATIVE PRAYER, lectio divina was originally about reading The Bible to APPLY it and contemplative prayer about Bible CONTENT in the mind not about contentless blanking or "soaking" in some Scriptural mood, this developed in RC in the Middle Ages in overreaction to the scholastic mindset).

One of the best early writers against it BEFORE Constance was Fr. Seraphim Rose, "Orthodoxy and The Religion of The Future" first published April 1975).

Anonymous said...

Christina get your facts straight!!

This is from his own site- he is in COMMUNION with Rome although practicing many RITUALS OF EO. Looks like he dabbles in both.

Lee Penn left the Episcopal Church in 1995 - pushed away by Bishop Swing's establishment of the United Religions Initiative, Swing's 1994 acceptance of Matthew Fox as an Episcopal priest, and the pro-abortion stance of the Episcopal Church. The last straw was when they started calling God "she" at Penn's Episcopal parish; by the next Sunday, Lee was seeking a new spiritual home, and began by worshiping at a Russian Orthodox parish. That year, he explored Catholicism and Eastern Orthodoxy - and was received into an Eastern Catholic parish that is in communion with Rome but worships, fasts, feasts, and prays in the Eastern Orthodox fashion. Lee's spiritual home since 1995 has been the Christian East.

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

Okay, my mistake, he is Byzantine Rite Catholic. I got the wrong impression from his rejection of the legitimacy of Rome's excommunication of Constantinople in AD 1054. However by that very point, he is probably going to end up EO.

But you don't quite get it. Being in communion with Rome, accepting the pope as head of church on earth is not the same thing entirely. Byzantine Rite Catholic faith and practice are EO and unless a Roman bishop is present they usually recite the Creed without the filioque (filioque wrongly and unbiblically claims The Holy Spirit proceeds in eternal origin from The Father AND The Son, though this double origin meaning is now denied by many apologists for it in Rome but that is what was meant originally and held by some in Rome and some protestants who recite the Creed as it came from Rome). Byzantine or "uniates" don't go in for the Marian visionary based extremes as far as I know, they are indistinguishable from EO except for church politics, that said, a person who went from them to EO felt a greater presence of The Holy Spirit as a result. Contrary to EO positions, grace is not absent just crippled in EO and protestantism.

As for New Age it is both political and spiritual with the latter split between pop occultism and the more deadly orientation to serving "ascended masters" and suchlike demons.

Now I am going silent again.

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

oops typo
"Contrary to EO positions, grace is not absent just crippled in EO and protestantism."

should read "just crippled in RC and protestantism."

Anonymous said...

Thank you Christine for all the blather!

Think I will stick with what was posted @galatiansfour.blogspot.com
It was posted by someone who is obviously Christ centered, as opposed to religion centered.

paul said...

I'd say thank you Christine for having the
courage of conviction enough, and probably just simple pure faith enough, to sign her name to everything she writes.

Anonymous said...

I'd rather have my courage and convictions be that my name is nothing and speaking plain and true about my Savior's Name be what people come away with, or if there is something that I write that is true, let that get the notice, I need no credit in what is written. He must increase and I must decrease....because my name signed or not signed on my posts means zero. You made no point whatsoever Paul. (and anybody can sign anything for that matter).

Anonymous said...

"Contrary to EO positions, grace is not absent just crippled in RC and protestantism."

Thus says the Christine!

Come to the congregation I am in sometime.

What, I ask, about the Chinese house church movement? It was forged in the heat of persecution under Mao's communism. It based itself on the Bible, meaning that it aims to do all that the Bible calls Christians to do and nothing that is inconsistent with it. (That is a little different from "sola scriptura".) It regards Roman Catholic, Eastern Orthodox and Protestant simply as terms from European church history and its members call themselves simply "Christians". Do you dare to judge that grace is crippled in these house churches too?

Constance Cumbey said...

Paging Susanna:

I just read this very disturbing and looking to me as credible Affidavit by a former canonical lawyer from Minnesota who alleges Archdiocesan coverups of sexual abuse there. I would very much appreciate your input on this. I'm going to contact Lee Penn for his opinion as well.

http://www.andersonadvocates.com/documents/Haselberger%20Affidavit%20-%20redacted%20%28FILED%29.pdf

or

http://tinyurl.com/ocqaxjf

Thank you,

Constance

Anonymous said...

Constance, why do you need Susanna's input here? You already know everything about Susanna's inputs!
Why not pray about it and seek the Holy Spirit input on the whole worldwide nasty mess?
But no, you would rather strain at a gnat and swallow a camel!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

10:56 Perhaps Constance likes hearing from others who take the New Age movement seriously and do more than pat themselves on the back as they stand on their soapbox. What does it say on your soapbox? I think it says, "Because I know how to read a book, God speaks through me. You better listen. I'm special."

Anonymous said...

http://www.naturalnews.com/045991_age_of_delusion_spiritual_awakening_mental_practice.html

This sure sounds like warning about a coming New Age but from a perspective I haven't seen elsewhere. Part of the site sounds as if is written for New Agers and part to warn others --survivalists, Christians, etc. and just others who read the news.

I haven't followed this site. I just came across it.

Constance Cumbey said...

To Anonymous 10:56:

SUSANNA has SUBSTANCE and presents well documented research. A detailed serious 110 page redacted affidavit was presented from a serious source concerning serious allegations about Catholic hierarchy misdeeds in the Minneapolis, Minnesota region and Iwanted Susanna's response to it.

I don't particularly discern the Holy Spirit in your rantings. Hopefully, I'm wrong. Personally, your comments seem mean-spirited at best, perhaps diabolic at worse.

And to Christine, thanks for your defense of me.

Constance

Susanna said...

Dear Constance,

This is the first I am hearing about this particular instance of sexual misconduct allegations on the part of the Catholic clergy.

This one is not new. It goes
back to October, 2013.

Nienstedt denies any clergy sexual abuse cover-up, regrets 'lost confidence'

http://www.mprnews.org/story/2013/10/23/catholic-church/nienstedt-breaks-silence-no-offending-priests-in-archdiocese
_____________________________

I have to consult my sources on this story for more details and I will post them here.

If the allegations are true, Pope Francis needs to remove Nienstedt and defrock him.

Given the fairly recent news about his defrocking of another archbishop, I don't think Pope Francis will hesitate to do so in this case either if the situation warrants such a penalty.

What we don't need is another Cardinal Law fiasco.

Be back later.

Anonymous said...

I'm not anon 10:56, but come on Constance.

Mean spirited and diabolical???

A little over dramatic wouldn't you say?

I've seen MUCH worse from Paul, Christina and Dorothy over the years.

And to Christina

Yesterday my comment about fighting the New Age while being waist deep in it, was not directed specifically at EO. I was referring to it being ironic that with all the man made MYSTIC stuff in the RCC that is all but ignored here, that many here claim to "fight" the New Age but are waist deep in it themselves.

Susanna

Yes, I was a "cradle catholic" just like you, and longer belong to the church, but a few threads back you told me I was or must have been a "bad" catholic, whereas, concerning Paul (who left the church as well) you proclaimed him a brother in Christ.

What's wrong with this picture? Kinda funny, huh???

UNBELIEVABLE!!!!

Anonymous said...

3:17 You complain about Susanna, Constance, Paul, Christine, and Dorothy who hasn't posted here in a long time. Your dislikes are all over the place. Is there anyone you like other than yourself?

Anonymous said...

4:02

Typical cronyism that goes on here.

It's about being fair. Shouldn't treat one different than another just because they have a differing opinion.

But your the typical fanboy/fangirl.

Susanna said...

Dear Constance,

Here is some additional information concerning Jennifer Haselberger's affidavit.

There are those who suggest that the reason behind this second round of sexual misconduct charges is that Archbishop Nienstedt is a zealous crusader against gay marriage.

From the National Catholic Reporter:

No charges for St. Paul-Minneapolis archdiocese in sex abuse cases
Brian Roewe | Jan. 30, 2014

http://ncronline.org/news/accountability/no-charges-st-paul-minneapolis-archdiocese-sex-abuse-cases
__________________________________

From the New York Times:

Calls for Resignation Mount for Minnesota Archbishop in Scandals

By LAURIE GOODSTEINJULY 15, 2014

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/16/us/calls-for-resignation-mount-for-minnesota-archbishop-in-scandals.html?_r=0
_________________________________

From Father Z's blog. Father Z believes that Archbishop Nienstedt is being persecuted because of his stand against same-sex marriage.

Attacks on Archbp. Nienstedt reveal a deep and diabolical and successful campaign

Posted on 17 September 2013 by Fr. John Zuhlsdorf

The other day I wrote about how Archbishop John Nienstedt of St. Paul and Minneapolis delivered tough love about homosexual unions and that the deception in the same-sex marriage argument is from Satan.

He is right.

Nienstedt is being viciously attacked in the liberal press.

He must be doing something right
.....read more.....

http://wdtprs.com/blog/2013/09/attacks-on-archbp-nienstedt-reveal-a-deep-and-diabolical-and-successful-campaign/

See also...

http://wdtprs.com/blog/tag/archbp-nienstedt/

________________________________


From the December 18, 2013vissue National Catholic Register by CNA/EWTN News....This report indicates that Archbishop Nienstedt voluntarily stepped aside while police were allowed to do an independent investigation.

Archbishop Nienstedt Steps Aside During Investigation of ‘Touching’ Allegation (9691)

The Minnesota archbishop states ‘this allegation is absolutely and entirely false,’ but will refrain from all public ministry while it is investigated.

by CNA/EWTN NEWS 12/18/2013

http://www.ncregister.com/daily-news/archbishop-nienstedt-steps-aside-during-investigation-of-touching-allegatio/
_______________________________

From the December 17, 2013 edition of The Catholic World Report:

Abp. Nienstedt steps down as abuse allegation is investigated

Archbishop of St. Paul and Minneapolis denies he inappropriately touched a minor.

December 17, 2013

http://www.catholicworldreport.com/Blog/2790/abp_nienstedt_steps_down_as_abuse_allegation_is_investigated.aspx
_______________________________

Abp. Nienstedt won’t be charged in alleged groping case

Archbishop of St. Paul and Minneapolis will return to public ministry immediately.

March 12, 2014 03:22 EST
By Catherine Harmon

http://www.catholicworldreport.com/Blog/2997/abp_nienstedt_wont_be_charged_in_alleged_groping_case.aspx

____________________________

July 1, 2014

Report: Minnesota Archbishop Nienstedt under scrutiny for same-sex relationships


http://www.religionnews.com/2014/07/01/report-minnesota-archbishop-nienstedt-scrutiny-sex-relationships/

cont.

Susanna said...

cont.

On July 2, 2014, the National Catholic Register reported that Archbishop Nienstedt is stepping aside again and has called for another third party investigation of himself........

Minn. Archbishop Orders Third-Party Investigation of Himself Following Claims of Sexual Misconduct (5100)

Archbishop John Nienstedt, cleared of an accusation three months ago, said the latest allegations against him are ‘entirely false.’

by CATHOLIC NEWS AGENCY 07/02/2014
.......Three months ago, Archbishop Nienstedt was cleared of an accusation of inappropriately touching a male minor’s posterior during a confirmation photo shoot in 2009. During that investigation, Archbishop Nienstedt removed himself from public ministry, but he returned after no charges were brought against him.

Late in 2013, around the time the first case was opened, allegations of inappropriate sexual conduct with seminarians, priests and other men came to light, including an accusation made by a former Twin Cities, Minn., priest. It prompted a new investigation and a statement released by the archbishop denying the claims.

“These allegations are absolutely and entirely false,” Archbishop Nienstedt said. “Nonetheless, I ordered Bishop Lee Piché to oversee an independent, thorough investigation and that he hire an outside firm unaffiliated with the archdiocese to conduct the investigation.”

According to a July 1 article in Commonweal magazine, the archdiocese opened an investigation in early 2014, after being informed that a former Twin Cities priest had accused Archbishop Nienstedt of making unwanted sexual advances.

In a statement to Commonweal, the archbishop said the allegations are a “personal attack against me due to my unwavering stance on issues consistent with Church teaching, such as opposition to so-called same-sex marriage.”

Following the archbishop’s orders, the archdiocese sought out a third-party attorney and hired the top-ranked Minneapolis firm of Greene Espel to investigate and interview his current and former associates and employees. Archbishop Nienstedt and Auxiliary Bishops Lee Piché and Andrew Cozzen flew to Washington to inform the apostolic nuncio, Archbishop Carlo Viganò, of the allegations before the investigation began.

“I have ordered that the investigation be conducted for the benefit of the archdiocese,” Archbishop Nienstedt said in a July 1 statement. “The archdiocese investigates all allegations of clergy misconduct. It would be unfair to ignore these allegations simply because I know them to be false.”.......read more...

http://www.ncregister.com/daily-news/minn.-archbishop-orders-third-party-investigation-of-himself-following-clai/
___________________________

More articles from the National Catholic Register.......

http://www.ncregister.com/search/results2/
______________________________

In essence, Jennifer Haselberger is claiming that Archbishop Nienstedt is not telling the truth.


Under oath, whistleblower challenges Archbishop Nienstedt over abuse testimony

Issues Madeleine Baran · St. Paul, Minn. · Jul 15, 2014

http://www.mprnews.org/story/2014/07/15/under-oath-whistleblower-challenges-archbishop

______________________________


As I have already said, this is the first time I am seeing this sorry tale, and I intend to reserve judgement until I know more about all the parties involved.

Jennifer Haselberger is a canon lawyer. Her affidavit is not only part of a lawsuit, but she has also challenged Archbishop Nienstedt under oath. I am sure that she is well aware of the penalties for purgery. At this time, I have no intention of questioning either her credentials or her motives.

If she is proven to be right, then Archbishop Nienstedt needs to be removed from his see.

Stay tuned.

I should be receiving more information over the next couple of weeks which I will gladly share.

Anonymous said...

3:17 P.M.

Everyone is equal here at Constance's blog. Some are more equal than others.

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

"There are those who suggest that the reason behind this second round of sexual misconduct charges is that Archbishop Nienstedt is a zealous crusader against gay marriage."

two points. I only skimmed part of the affidavit to get the general idea. I didn't read all of it, but I gather the issues are not pedophilia or homosexuality (which most pedophilia is), but clergy sexual misconduct of the adult heterosexual sort.

This is not incompatible with being an anti gay crusader.

And being secretly gay is not incompatible with being an anti gay crusader either, it is a great cover.

sometimes the best place to hide something is in plain sight. sometimes the best place for an evil to nest is the last place you expect to find it.

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

" http://www.naturalnews.com/045991_age_of_delusion_spiritual_awakening_mental_practice.html

This sure sounds like warning about a coming New Age but from a perspective I haven't seen elsewhere. Part of the site sounds as if is written for New Agers and part to warn others --survivalists, Christians, etc. and just others who read the news. "

This is typical of New Age concerns about coming collapse, something you don't need "prophets" who are just good trends analysts to tell you is coming.

The whole tone is New Age, using terms like "humanity" and "spiritual" the rosy idea of a renewal and wisdom from a collapse. Actually all you can expect from a collapse is more of the same as people scramble to recover the ways they were used to, over neighbors' dead bodies if need be.

Except for those more into working together like many in Detroit.

the advice and warnings are cobbled from many sources obviously and the advice is good enough up to getting spiritually strong. Of course to this person it means mediation or getting back in touch with pagan indigenous religion or euro pagan holdover roots usually using folk medicine and so forth as a conveyor belt to get there. Not all such sites are for this.

But in the heading of getting spiritually strong, if you apply that as spend more time in The Bible and prayer to Jesus Christ of The Bible, then that's fine.

Susanna said...

Christine,

Re:And being secretly gay is not incompatible with being an anti gay crusader either, it is a great cover.

sometimes the best place to hide something is in plain sight. sometimes the best place for an evil to nest is the last place you expect to find it.



I agree. I know of one bishop, in fact, who was "outed" after he took a public stand against gay marriage. He left his diocese and fled to St. Luke's in Maryland. No one would have ever suspected him of sexual misconduct.

This is why I am reserving judgement in the Nienstedt case.

Rich Peterson - Medford said...

Constance, please check your email.

Rich

Rich Peterson - Medford said...

Constance, please check your email.

Rich

Anonymous said...

Thank you Christine for noticing the information I shared from Natural News and commenting on it. There is more I could have written pertaining to that post. I'm glad I didn't waste my time and do that. This blog appears to be not ready for that.

Interest here has become focused on what's considered heresy in various religious organizations for a long time now. Interest in the overall New Age theme has disappeared. As we each have different interests in some aspect of New Age, I would still have thought that the history of various pieces of niche information could be related to their connection to the big picture of names and organizations operating now. Specifically while not all have details about the heresy history of the Catholic Church, we would understand how it relates to the now for example.

It appears the big New Age picture is no longer discussed here other than that there is some vague connection to a religious and political side of New Age.

If any reader has worked on it, what is the New Age connection to what is happening on the Mexican border? What is the New Age connection to what is happening in the Middle East by name and organization? What is the New Age connection to Obamacare by name and organization? What is the connection by name and organization to New Age that is happening now in the Catholic organizations? What is the New Age connection to Common Core by names and organizations?

I understand that most of the posters here will say skip New Age and just read the Jesus connections in the Bible. However that's like a teacher telling a music student to just practice the scales and the rest will take care of itself. Now I can understand that teacher is probably an expert in scale practicing and focuses on that.

There is no way to warn others about the New Age movement anymore if no one can tell others how it affects what is going on NOW.

It's all well and good that Constance might, given enough time, tell some individual someplace, somewhere. Using a Bible reference, how can we be watchmen if we don't know what we are looking for? This is a place where we are to share what we know in order to warn others. Are there enough people reading this blog now who care to try?

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

anon 4:29

perhaps you could tell us exactly what you think the new age big picture is instead of complaining that it isn't dealt with.

I think that every possible short range and big picture view of it DOES get dealt with along with sniping at each other.

one aspect of the big picture is the creeping revival of nazism, which is evident in the fact that Bilderberg founders incl. persons who were part of Nazism, and the EU is an obvious continuation of the non violent plan of Nazi Germany to take over Europe after WW 2, and that they and the US (a major source with Britain of Nazi racial ideas all three being informed by theosophy and its relatives and ancestors) are backing the nazi supporting Unkrainian Kiev govt.

A really big picture view of course is that this is leading up to the antichrist. and that is hardly ignored here. The intent that it do so is evident from theosophical writings and from what Marilyn Ferguson said to Constance at that lunch meeting many years ago.

Whether they will succeed in this or not is another matter, but succeed or fail, they will make nothing but trouble and horror for millions in the attempt.

Since they "think globally and act locally," building pieces of the puzzle, or sections of the machine, to be later fitted together into world tyranny and enslavement and depopulation, the smaller pieces of the NAM must not be ignored.

Anonymous said...

Christine, I hope to learn more from other researchers here if they ever show up. Why teach when there are no students. Students are not those who believe have all of the answers. Whoever posted the link to LaGarde is a serious researcher who I hope to hear from more. That does fit in with the link I gave earlier.

Constance Cumbey said...

I'm puzzled. Thought I had successfully posted this before, but, I'm off tonight as an elected precinct delegate to the Republican County Convention. Same sex marriage issues finally pushed me away from the Democratic Party which had been very good to me in my youth. Common Core education resistance and "Convergence & Contraction" ones are areas I could help with inputs and so I am off for the County Convention which will elect delegates to our state convention tonight.

Constance

Unknown said...

Constance - you wrote recently about making an interview with Dr. Stan Monteith available for download...and I was wondering if you still plan to do so..and how I might obtain it. Also, is there a free resource you can recommend where I can download audio files of your radio program ?
Please advise. Thankyou !

Anonymous said...

One of the questions I asked my Savior was about Pope Francis. Why is Pope Francis allowing all this chaos to continue within the Roman Catholic Church; most especially with this Synod on the Family? My Merciful JESUS said:

“My little brother, what you are seeing is the beginning of the Passion that the CHURCH must endure before my ‘Second Coming’. The Scriptures must be fulfilled. The cleansing of the Church has to occur before I gather My Remnant for the ‘Era of Peace’. Pray much for My Vicar, Pope Francis. He is being guided by My Spirit and the Blessed Mother, but he needs much prayer from you, the faithful. Satan believes he will finally defeat My Church, but this will never happen. Many complain of My Vicar’s ways of currently leading My Church. Even though it seems as if he is about to betray his Triune GOD and Holy Mother CHURCH; this will not happen. What you are seeing is the final assault of My CHURCH from within. Think back to the vision of Saint John Bosco guiding the Ship between the two pillars; the Pillar of My Eucharist on the right and the Pillar of Mary Most Holy on the left. All the small ships are the Cardinals, Bishops, Priests, Religious, and Laity within the CHURCH attacking My CHURCH through My Vicar. Many articles are being written unjustly against Him. They are wrong in doing so. If they think of themselves as being so holy and faithful to GOD, they should be on their knees praying for My Vicar. My flock should pray for themselves, their Pope, Cardinals, Bishops, Priest, and Religious. They should prepare themselves for the coming Tribulation. They should pray for their seminarians to become good, holy, Marian priests instead of attacking their Pope. Your heartfelt prayers will lessen the Passion that Holy Mother CHURCH must endure. Pray too, that Pope Francis will install the 5th and final Marian Dogma of ‘Co-Redemptrix, Advocate, and Mediatrix of all Graces’. Pope Francis is closer to the Blessed Mother than you know. Help him enter into Her Immaculate Heart.

Little brother, tell everyone to pray through the Immaculate Heart of our Mother Mary, through Saint Joseph, through Saint Michael. They are your greatest Intercessors in these ‘End Times’. Pray for the Triumph of the Immaculate Heart of Mary to come now so that Mary, who is commissioned by GOD to crush the head of the serpent, Satanans, will do so very soon. Pray, asking GOD the FATHER that through His great mercy to grant the illumination of conscience for every man, woman, and child above the age of reasoning. This greatest act of God's mercy will usher in the necessary conversions throughout the world. It will lessen the Chastisements necessary to cleanse and purify the world. Tell the faithful to pray for My Vicar. When you attack My Vicar, you attack Me, your Triune GOD. I love you little brother; my death on the Cross is proof of that; Go in My Peace and blessing. My grace is sufficient for you; for all of you, My CHURCH.”

Your brother in Jesus and Mary, Johnnie



The following was the response from his spiritual director:

Juanito,

I just read this very beautiful and necessary message of Mercy and Love. Therefore, know that you have my full endorsement to send it out as soon as possible. As always, may God be glorified and souls sanctified. God love you.

Spiritual Director for Johnnie Hernandez

http://afterthewarning.com/

Anonymous said...

You are doing well Constance and you are on a journey. Perhaps you will notice what Galileo and the Vatican had in common (they seemed to miss it at the time): - http://www.gci.org.uk/animations/ThreeDifferentOrbits_2.swf

Just maths really (rather like this - the Pythagorean Comma is a function of creation): - http://www.gci.org.uk/PCI_BB.html

With this, the relevance of C&C to strategy on climate-change may or may not be easier to spot: - http://cbat.info/#domain-1

The Burn Notice said...

Walid Shoebat is a fraud.

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