Tuesday, August 13, 2013

California's newest "Protection" law - California gender identity protection bill 2013 - Ultimate depths of degradation?

Just about the time you think it can't get much worse, it does!   Jesus reminded us that the biblical last days would be likened both to the days of Noah and the Genesis flood as well as to Sodom and Gomorrah.  I rather suspect that even Sodom and Gomorrah condemned residents might have blushed at current events in California these past few days.  After all, they had Abraham's cousin Lot "sitting in their gates," i.e., being the local Judge.  They knew he disapproved of their deviant activities.   California is apparently disqualifying all with frowning views on such  as ineligible for even parenting -- let alone judging.

California Governor Jerry Brown has just signed into law a most preposterous bill -- a bill that to my trained legal eye looks like the ultimate in child abuse itself -- billed as one to "protect transgendered children" (or those perceiving themselves as same).  The bill currently endangers all others and those allegedlly "transgendered" children themselves who more likely than not are the victims of the childhood exploiters who would convince highly suggestible children that they are something other than the good Lord above packaged them.  Now your little girls must share gym facilites and restrooms with little boys who suddenly proclaim themselves as little girls despite their outward genitalia.  Your little boys must likewise share with little girls who do likewise.  And California law passed last year prohibits parents from seeking counseling for their children against this unseemly suggestibility!  And they have the nerve to call it "progressive"!

Read the ugly law, Assembly Bill 1266,  now enacted and signed by California Governor Jerry Brown by pressing here.

Under this new abomination passing itself off as "law," if your little boy, even a kindergartner, wants to think of himself as a little girl, he must be allowed to use the little girls toilets and public restroom facilities.  Ditto if your precious little girl wants to think of herself as a boy.

And should a California parent try to protect his or her precious little ones from the obvious psychological abuse from others of his child that has resulted in the child having these opinions that he (or she) is not as the good Lord created him to be, such counseling about the child's true "gender orientation" is illegal, too!  Governor Jerry Brown signed that bill, California Senate Bill 1172 into law on September 30, 2012.  It went into effect on January 1, 2013.  You may read that bill as signed by the Governor in its ugly entirety by pressing here.

It is not hard to imagine a scenario -- probably undoubtedly existing -- where hordes of LGBT militant activists will be patrolling and spying on parents via New Age techniques of school homework "journaling" assignments to ferret out parents who dare defy or counsel their children.

How are California Christians responding?  It is hard to tell which responses are honest Christian reactions and which are "emerging church" compromises?  Here is one brochure issued for California Christian counselors.  It's clearly compromised nature is personally distressing to the undersigned.

Jesus clearly warned as recorded in the Book of Matthew that it would be better for somebody to be hung around the neck with a millstone and drowned than to suffer the eternal fate of one causing a child to go astray.  (Matthew 18:6)  Isaiah clearly warned "woe to those who call evil good and good evil."  (Isaiah 5:20-21).

I wonder if California Governor Jerry Brown still perceives of himself as a good Catholic Christian?  I wonder how long until the President will applaud the California legislation?  I wonder of the old hymn that goes "how long, Lord Jesus, how long, how long, till we sing the glad song, Christ returneth."

I can remember reading nothing in apocalyptic novels or end time movies that even remotedly approached the obvious wickedness in this legislation that under the guise of "protection" leaves our small children to the predations of the so-called "LGBT community".

May the Lord help us all.  May the Holy Spirit impress upon those promoting these measures that their eternal bodies and souls may be at everlasting risk.  There is still room and time for repentance, but maybe not much!

Stay tuned!

CONSTANCE




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Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

"What is this “outpouring of the Christ principle”? Possession?"

sounds like it.

Constance Cumbey said...

Christine,

LINDSAY WILLIAMS is definitely one person I WOULD NOT BUY A USED CAR FROM! He is very much a Eustace Mullins style occultist himself, bragging in the past that he uses hypnotic mind control methods to increase sales of his books. I listened to one Marlin Maddoux interview by him in the past where he said that the Atomic Bomb scare was a "scam" because the bomb would only have explosive effects when the "ley lines" permitted same. Yup, that is one sure New Age theory.

Constance

Anonymous said...

So Infowolf 1 you aren't going to share your bio it appears nor are you going to share anything would let others know why you consider yourself such a expert on all topics. You will just go on and on filling up the blog with your commentary. You say no one is stopped in sharing news about the New Age movement. Do you think we are such suckers who believe that lie? Of course we are stopped by your pile of verbal garbage which smothers any information about the New Age movement. Yes, some of us are very aware of your toll like methods. And maybe the only way to deal with you is to cut and paste tons of information to smother your posts. I suggest others try and that also. Maybe then Constance will become aware of how useless this website has become and how easily she is made to look foolish and how easily her 30 year fight against the New Age movement is going down the drain with the rest of the Infowolf1 garbage.

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

Constance, Lindsay Williams occult practices have no relevance to the issue of whether he had correct information as to what the plans of some people were or were not. (you can hardly call Marilyn Ferguson, a much more extreme case, a Christian convert in repentance and blowing the lid off the NAM conspiracy, now can you?) Any information source has to be gauged against other sources and the overall picture it fits to, or seems to be discredited by. In most cases it is a mix of truth and falsehood.

As I said once before, even though you wouldn't want to give a junky money for an alleged cab ride because he complains it is raining, doesn't mean it isn't raining.


This information is separately confirmed to some extent by Gen. Wesley Clark's information.

Williams may be playing it up to get money for the info, and the idea of invest in gold is nonsense because (1) it can be confiscated (2) if not bullion but paper stocks it can become worthless (3)when something is high priced that is no time to buy it, (4) you can't eat gold and neither can anyone else you might want to trade with.

But that doesn't mean he isn't onto something.

Anon whoever,

As for my expertise, why don't you ask other people here the same questions? I have posted links and referenced books and I have stated that I have been reading up on stuff like this for 30 years. That is all the expertise anyone can claim, and frankly "credentials" from any accredited education source, if you mean that, are NOT something to give credence to when dealing with anything the establishment or NAM doesn't want looked at closely. More like a reason to consider the credentials holder NOT qualified until proven otherwise.

A lot of the information and analysis I give is common knowledge anyway in conspiracy circles, which is what this blog is categorizable as. (anything the NA influenced or controlled, or theologically uninterested elite fascist whatnot establishment doesn't like looked at, is called "conspiracy theory.")

Constance Cumbey said...

Dorothy Margraf gave a fine interview on the New Age Movement. You can listen by going to this link:

http://libertyarchives.com/

pull down the link for the Barry Chamish show. Please IGNORE the ERIC JOHN PHELPS one. He is a disgrace to the human race as far as I am concerned. Phelps is published by a New Age publishing house, calls for murdering Catholic priests and is anti-Semitic in the process as well although he has evidently bamboozled Barry Chamish.

Constance

Constance Cumbey said...

Christine,

The thing about EUSTACE MULLINS and LINDSAY WILLIAMS is that usually they JUST PLAIN LIE! I would consider anything from them only if I could independently verify it from 3 reliable sources not using them as their sources. Even then, if they said it, I would be skeptical.

Constance

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

The only thing of Lindsay Williams I am interested in, is his claims about plans of the elites, which have to some extent come true, and especially those regarding a planned takedown of secular and monarchical Arab governments, which Gen. Wesley Clark saw a list which confirms this in the Pentagon, and reported this on a TV interview somewhere.

I cringe at his kind of pleading with the beloved listeners style and gold bug stuff is silly. Right now, you drag bullion through an airport it is going to get confiscated, just mentioned on the evening news. I have only listened to a few of his videos online and no plans to buy anything of his.

Since the removal of secular Arab govts. and those koranically competent enough to not go out of their way to persecute Jews (outside of Israel) in the Arab lands, or Christians (unless a Christian goes out of his way to personally convert a mulsim), serves no necessary economic oil agenda, and DOES serve a satanic anti Christian agenda, it makes perfect sense, given the presence of elites constantly cropping up in reports of everything from Bohemian Grove paganism however jokingly some may take it (and get spiritually infected anyway) to flat out satanic rituals.

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

http://libertyarchives.com/ which interview is hers? I don't see her name on that page.

Anonymous said...

Christine, please answer rather than duck the question put to you at 5.08pm regarding why you talk so much and claiming it is because you care so much about the subject. Do you think you can measure commitment to the subject by quantity of output? That question was:

Is it not the case that you crave an audience and are not able or willing to do the hard work of getting a successful blog up to speed, so you run on to Constance's stage and harangue her audience? Many of whom do not appreciate it, according to comments, and some of whom have left stating that you are why.

Ruth of Exeter said...

Physicist - I was so pleased by your post - to know that I am not the only one to appreciate Brian Gerrish! God bless you.

Returning to the substance of Constance's post - I hope everyone has seen 'The Kinsey Syndrome' - it is an excellent introduction to the notion that legalised paedophilia IS the end game in the sexual sphere. It includes a discussion of NAMBLA and its muderously predatory sexuality and illustrates what Malachi Martin said so well:
'The cultic acts of Satanic paedophilia are considered by professionals to be the culmination of the Fallen Archangel’s rites.'

In the UK, the organisation 'Liberty', formerly the 'National Council for Civil Liberties' used to promote the notion of freedom for paedophiles to practice their abhominations. Harriet Harman, who backed this cause, is now a prominent Labour Party politician.

When I was a young interviewer one MP took me around the House of Commons and said "Every vice known to man is catered for within these walls". I remember the unease in his voice, but at the time, being a pagan hedonist myself, shrugged it off.

Now it has become apparent that involvement in paedophilia is almost a must for politicians - it makes it so easy for their handlers to control them. The Jimmy Saville revelations blew this wide open in the UK, as the Franklin Scandal did in the US.

The worldwide abduction and trafficking of children - as spoken of by that dear Orthodox Bishop - is a reality in this rising age of barbarism - God help us all!

'But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea.
Woe unto the world because of offences! for it must needs be that offences come; but woe to that man by whom the offence cometh!

Matthew 18:6-7

Craig said...

Mind meld?

http://now.msn.com/human-mind-control-could-be-soon-a-reality?ocid=ansnowex

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

when I say I care about the subject I mean, to share the information and educate the audience. And there have been a few people here who expressed appreciation. The only reason I want an audience is to get the information out.

I don't think in the personal aggrandizement terms you obviously do. Get a SUCCESSFUL blog up to speed? I have one loaded with resource links for those who want to use them.

your idea of the value of a blog is that it is "successful" meaning what? the quality of information or the amount of discussion? the latter probably because it implies a lot of readership?

On that basis Constance could ditch the NAM subject and start putting up info about the media stars and other pop culture crap and how to fit in with mainstream degeneracy and be sure to write semi illiterate, she'd REALLY be successful then! But hardly worthwhile to a sensible person.



Anonymous said...

Enjoyed listening to Dorothy Margraf being interviewed on the Barry Chamish radio show Tuesday night (08/27/13).

To listen, click on the link below:
http://libertyarchives.com/

(Then, click on Barry Chamish.)

Dorothy gave an excellent overview of the New Age Movement.


Anonymous said...

Christine, as should be obvious in context I meant by "successful blog" on New Age and related subjects that generates considerable related discussion and receives many hits. Constance has one such, and instead of doing the hard work of building one of your own you have parasitised hers. Its entirely up to her whether to tolerate it, but I wouldn't.

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

"I meant by "successful blog" on New Age and related subjects that generates considerable related discussion and receives many hits."

there is no way for anyone here except Constance to know the page stats here. My own page stats are 16 today, 25 yesterday, and 1019 last month. not much comments, but maybe they are off checking the info on the links to the left and pursuing links on those pages. Who cares as long as they benefit?

A fellow from South Africa was unaware of the Missler Horn Skiba nonsense until he read my refutations of it, and did comment.

your definition does fit one of the options I listed above.

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

Good interview with Dorothy, I just finished listening to it. The heal yourself type alternative medicine sounds like Christian Science philosophy, if you can't heal yourself by meditation there is something wrong with you, a new form of blame the victim.

A lot of those herbal extracts do work, but you have to do dosing by books, not the bottle, whose label is designed to look like a "food supplement" and keep the FDA from stopping purveying of a medicine.

yes indeed, the whole thing is BOTH occult AND political. Chamish does a good job of drawing her out for details. Glad to see Agenda 21 mentioned.

I could see those meetings also used, by after meeting contact networking with participants to step by step move people into the occult philosophy and New Age meditation stuff as well afterwards. A recruiting ground.

As I have said before, the Agenda 21 plan to stuff us all into tight high density housing, is a pandemic pathogen's dream. Fits the depopulation plan real good, doesn't it?

Anonymous said...

Thank you Constance, Anonymous and Christine for the thumbs up about the interview. I did it to make more people aware of the scope of the New Age movement. Of course I gave you credit by name Constance, as I always do. We both have been researching it for over thirty years now.

As a side note, in trying to be prepared I went to some books I hadn't checked in a while. One was Children of the New Age by Steven Sutcliffe, a New Age book out of England. There was your name. I think one could build a rather large library just by gathering all of the books where your name appears. Some negative, some positive, but as they say in show business, just keep the name in the public eye.

I will be posting the names of the three authors I named because they do show how New Age fits into the political picture whereas almost all books on the New Age movement just focus in on what most people think the New Age movement i about.
Dorothy

Anonymous said...

Anonymous at 11:49 PM said in reply to Christine, quote,

"Of course we are stopped by your pile of verbal garbage which smothers any information about the New Age movement."

... Thank You for saying this, I am in agreement with you. I used to appreciate learning from many of the well informed and gracious commenters that previously posted here.

It has become tiresome and time wasting to wade through the endless comments that Christine posts for a long time now. Yes, I know I can collapse her comments but a lot of what then remains can be related to whatever she has written ... often needing to correct or clarify her erratic posts.

~ K ~

Anonymous said...

Christine, you missed the main point of why meetings like the Fetzer one come about. They are not meant to be recruiting methods as much as they are designed to manipulate and control opposition to the plans of the facilitators using the Delphi technique. It is a technique not detectable by those unaware of the methods used.

These meetings have a second purpose. Ideas live through people. It is much easier to take a stand against an idea than it is to take a stand against another person who has become a friend. On all levels government works that way. I am reading a book called This Town which is about individuals in the government in DC. Political people who closely work together, go to events together, eat together very often compromise the stands they were elected on Good guy Democrat likes good guy Republican and the result is going along to get along. As one participant at the Fetzer event said,-- at the end we all realized we were all patriots who cared about the country and maybe we can find a way to work together. While that last technique is as old as the hills, put it together with use of the Delphi technique and it takes a very strong person to stand their ground in the face of such pressure.

Dorothy
In addition,

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

Dorothy, you missed my point. read it again. These manipulation meetings can then be USED by contacting people evaluated as likely step by step converts to the rest of it. Whether full out totalitarianism or New Age occultism.

This of course would not be the purpose of the meeting.

But it could be used like ANY meeting, to troll for possible other purposes.

Anonymous said...

Dorothy - I've just listened to the radio program. You're a very clear and concise speaker - thank you. I've recently been reading a lot of the web page information at Lucis Trust about the New Group of World Servers and was puzzling over the cloud of secrecy that surrounds Lucis Trust. http://www.lucistrust.org/en/service_activities/world_goodwill/key_concepts/the_new_group_of_world_servers__1

I was particularly disturbed to read the self appointed authority with which they write - one way ... their way, they know best!

In the show you spoke about a list of Goodwill servers. Is that list available to view on the web?

Thanks for any help.

~ K ~

Ramona said...

Fantastic!

Anonymous said...

Kairos Britain

I've just read an article which says Lucy Winkett, Rector of New Age church St James Piccadilly will launch an anti-Israel project at this year’s Greenbelt. http://networkedblogs.com/OpC1W

"Kairos, also being launched in other countries around the world, sees Israel as an oppressive, unjust and racist nation which gives no rights to Palestinians. Kairos condemns Israel and denies any right for Israel to defend herself and to live on land rightfully her own."



On the Kairos Britain about us page - http://networkedblogs.com/OpC1W ... "Kairos Britain is a network of organisations and faith communities formed in response to the Kairos Palestine document, ‘A moment of truth’. The network continues the work of the Christians who met on Iona in May 2012 and issued the Iona call to the Christian communities in Britain."

The small Isle of Iona is a very, very close neighbour to the even smaller Isle of Erraid which is part of the Findhorn Foundation. Findhorn/Erraid also have accomodation on Iona.

Has anyone any research information on Kairos that they are able to share please?

Thanks.

~ K ~





Anonymous said...

Apologies, I gave an incorrect link to Kairos Britain.

Here's the correct link http://www.kairosbritain.org.uk/about_us.aspx

~ K ~

Constance Cumbey said...

At least one righteous lawmaker in California! Assemblyman Tim Donnelly pulls his son from California school over transgender legislation.

http://tinyurl.com/krodnhc

Constance

Anonymous said...

K - thanks for the compliment. What I referred to on the show was the New Group of World Servers. A few years ago many organizations e on the list broken down by category could be found on the internet. They must have found out others had access to the list and it was taken down. I know I have it on a hard drive where my son put a lot of my old things, so I can't dig it up now. Along with the list of people by group there were listings of many events going on. I think you will find this pamphlet of interest though. http://www.lucistrust.org/fr/content/download/35449/447716/file/NGWS_3fold_pamphlet.pdf

World Goodwill is more of an informational part of Lucis Trust. They put out a newsletter and you can get on the list, or at least you could in the past. Too much to follow and so I stopped following it. Only by luck can you get something that helps put the pieces together, when they refer to someone in an article.

You might want to check out where Lucis Trust groups are around the world. It can be traced down on their website. Then again you might want to take a trip to the University of Michigan and see the archives. Then again Constance could start a service where she answers questions.

Here is another website of interest. http://www.inplainsite.org/html/alice_bailey_and_lucis_trust.html#ABNewGr

Over 30 years I posted and shared information and most of the time it was like talking to the wind. There is no organized group fighting the New Age movement, working together, just a lot of individuals, each with their own audience and spotlight. Consequently there is no source where everyone can add new information and be credited.

The positive side of all of this is that there was no one or several organizations that could be infiltrated. The negative side is that every researcher of the New Age movement has to start from scratch, going to the various spotlights to see what that person found. This also allows people like Christine/Infowolf 1 to pretend to be knowledgeable. Decades have been lost in the process. A central source would have been similar to academic organizations. All of this is why I can't help more despite the huge amount of research I've done. I did what I could to get past the barriers.

If anyone else has suggestions on how this blockade can be bypassed, please share them.

Anonymous said...

Dear K

I am an English Christian, a regular reader of this blog, and a supporter of the State of Israel on biblical grounds. Genesis pledged Canaan to the descendants of Abraham through Isaac and Jacob forever. Whether or not there is a greater spiritual interpretation of that covenant, the version of it that Abraham would have understood must hold if God is honest - which I take Him to be. So Israelite jurisdiction in Canaan is the norm, and periods of exile, however long, are the exception. Matters reverted to normal in 1948. Since God has power to prevent that which He does not permit, and since he has made that covenant with Abraham, the existence of the Israeli State should be supported by Bible-believers.

Kairos presents a wholly one-sided view of the situation in Canaan (known as Mandatory Palestine and run by the British 1922-48). In 1947 the UN proposed a 2-state solution. The Jews accepted, and said that they would preserve the civil rights of Arabs in their region. The Arabs of Palestine rejected the UN plan and said that they would fight the Jews as soon as the British quit. The senior Palestinian Arab leader Jamal Husseini was open about their having started the civil war when speaking to the UN in April 1948. But the Arabs lost - and they also lost the immediately following war when Israel's Arab neighbours invaded Canaan to strangle the Jewish State at birth. I believe God is against a 2-state solution but, from the human point of view, had the Arabs accepted the UN proposal then they would have had the 2-state solution that they now advocate without any bloodshed or refugees. None of that could be guessed from Kairos.

Jurisdiction of Jews within the land is not the same as who owns individual plots of it. Where Arabs are deprived of land in a time when mass fighting that they started is not going on, I condemn that. But the Jews are up against a largely Muslim people and the quran calls Jews apes and pigs and advocates violence. You never hear that from Kairos either. Some Palestinian Arabs are Christians. Those who are committed deserve our fullest support. Those who are from "Christian villages" and pick up the gun almost as readily as their Muslim relations (see Brother Andrew's fine book "Light Force" and the intervie with an Orthodox bishop unable to control his flock) need to heed Jesus Christ's warnings to his followers.

I read the Kairos document when it was published with fanfare a few years ago and I profoundly regret that they were granted airtime at Greenbelt, which was scheduled for August 25th. Here is a comment ahead of the event from a highly respected Christian blogger:

http://archbishop-cranmer.blogspot.co.uk/2013/08/greenbelt-launches-anti-israel-kairos.html

St James Piccadilly is the church in London that led the New Age movement within Anglicanism and has hosted the practising witch Miriam Simos ('Starhawk') in its pulpit.

Iona is a centre of Celtic Christianity and you can find all of the good, the bad and the ugly there.

Brit

Anonymous said...

Dorothy & Brit - Thank You for the excellent links.

Brit - I'm an English Christian also. For a good few years I lived on the Isle of Mull, which is the larger island that folks travel across to reach the isles of Iona and Erraid. I have become very discerning about 'projects' that originate out of meetings on Iona.

~ K ~

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

"They must have found out others had access to the list and it was taken down."

put the URL into http://www.archive.org in the "wayback machine" (delete the http:// that you will have if you highlight cut and paste or you get the http://the wayback machine supplies and end up with TWO of them and no results)

and then go back to the last year you could find what you want. And keep checking prior months and years till you find it.

I wouldn't be surprised if they've deleted most of those years, but keep looking they probably missed something.

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

The NAM movement started with lucis trust et al but it is in no way limited to them.

Anonymous said...

Dorothy, K, etc....

What is needed to get over the research obstacles (or at least head in the right direction) is someone (or a group of someones) to start up a discussion forum somewhere - and it can be set up to be as public or private as desired - for the sharing and archiving and organizing of research into the New Age Movement.

A blog is not designed for that kind of archiving and research. Looking through comments on a blog for a particular link or for a particular piece of information is like looking for a needle in a haystack.

I can't speak for Constance, but I'm pretty sure she doesn't have the time to set one up or help moderate it (and it WILL need to be moderated) once it is set up.

So.... any volunteers?

BTW.... As Christine mentioned earlier, enter this link into the wayback machine (archive.org), and you can pick from any date at the top to look at an archived version of the website for New Group of World Servers:

http://www.ngws.org/

I picked 2005 for example, and there's a lot of links to people and organizations. They might not all be active anymore, but you can get the names of them and then just search for them in a search engine.

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

blog - I would start with links that are in that haystack here, and add links to a hidden blog where you can archive pages before they are deleted, or copies of archive.org archives before the original owners get wise and delete them, there should be a password to only approved people.

I noticed that when I was looking for the old articles by Gil Levin (designer of at least one Mars life detection device on Viking Landers) most of the archives were gone, as if someone had gone in and gotten most but not all, and I ran across this regarding other searches as well.)

The links also might have to be examined for being currently active, and for relevance. Like, not everything about Javier Solana, that red herring (but not entirely a red herring but not the antichrist either) would be relevant. But some things about him would be VERY relevant.

And you might have to categorize them, core new age (lucis trust and connected people and organizations) issues with NAM input or of use to them, stuff like that.

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

hah! starting the research, I came across this:
"I say all of this now because Gretchen Passantino published prominently on the web, a paper on urban legends. She includes as one "urban legend" the security guard story. I'm sorry to say it but Gretchen Passantino was close enough to the action on this gang to know better. It is bluntly -- a lie!

http://answers.org/apologetics/fantasy.html
http://answers.org/bookreviews/painted_black_rev.html
http://www.equip.org/free/DC825.pdf
"

well, addendum about Gretchen Passantino, she has the looks of some sort of witch, and a person I knew confirmed she was part of something like that.

It is easy to condemn the pop occult stuff and obvious stuff, like the Passantinos do, then undermine research on satanic and New Age networks, and protect infiltration of the churches by spiritual deceptions. Since that would seem to be the high priority project right now, being part of what Besant or one of those said would be done, bring about the New Age or ascended masters or whatever through the churches, the UN project being accomplished already, you could expect this kind of thing.

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

Okay, I've got started. Constance, do I have your permission to repost some of your articles like that one regarding Passantino lying for example? Some links might require context, and some valuable information is not in a link but in your words!

Anonymous said...

Anonymous 11:47
When this blog was first set up, one could go to Search at the top left and put requests in to find earlier postings on a topic. It would go through the main article and the comments to find what was posted. No more. These days I can do a google search, put in Cumbey and what I am looking for, and it might come up, even if it was in the comments.

After 30 plus years I can honestly say there are very few people, if any, who want to do serious research and share it with others while keeping credit for what they have done, just as academics do. The research I've done is at the academic level. It's not just a hobby. If there are even people left who want to know what is going on, they just want someone else to do the work. Their contribution is "Thank you so much." In 30 years of very active sharing information about New Age at many different sites and in person and in mailings, I can probably count on two hands the amount of serious feedback I've gotten. Constance every once in a while saying Dorothy Margraf is a serious researcher hasn't gotten me a single contact in those 30 years, not a single interview other than a few on her programs, not a talk anywhere. At best I've gotten credit in several books for my help with research and a few notes saying, "I save everything you send." With so much going on in the world, even concerned individuals do not want to follow several sources. They believe that they will get all that is important by following CC sporadically.

In addition, New Age as such is not covered anywhere except by some individuals. Beck came close with his commentaries on historical progressives. No one else on the outside of the internet talks about it, so for almost everyone it's a niche topic, like needlework.

Bottom line is that after putting in so much time, effort, and money and much, much personal sacrifice, I have very little to show for my attempts to warn others what is going on. I could write several articles detailing just where I traveled and visited to get information for instance, but it would do no good. There have been others along the way, but most have just burned out and left contact with the public.

As I said, decades have been lost where things could have been turned around. Time has run out. Might as well be entertained by Christine/Infowolf 1.

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

anon, it seems to me that there is a certain serious weakness in the NAM and that is that it is a religon. AND THAT FACT MIGHT BE USED AGAINST ITS LEGALITY IN MANY CIRCUMSTANCES.

pointing this out and a brief overview with no more than ten sources to people, about the dubious connections and goals (and don't call it New Age up front, or even New World Order, bring that in after they are listening to you, because there is already a heavy move in the mainstream to dismiss this as mere "conspiracy theory" you got to get their attention and give them critical info to start with before their programming can kick in)

and target some current more local or regional thing they might give a hoot about.

Also the Delphi Technique, this should be briefly described with prejoratives like dishonest, promotes unprofessionally sloppy thinking, manipulative, deceptive. Something that give you a moral high ground.

Remember you are talking to dumbed down people with the mentality of a bumper sticker and the attention span of an MTV video.

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

well, I am not in good shape, I just put the wrong end of my cigarette in my mouth, and lit the filter and wondered why it tasted wrong, for the third time in my life.

Anonymous said...

US getting into a war with Syria will not only destroy Israel, it will destroy the US. Beck had some important commentary.
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/08/28/this-is-about-destroying-sovereignty-beck-examines-potential-syria-strike-through-the-eyes-of-a-radical-leftist/

“This administration knows that we are on the brink of World War III. The global economy is fragile, global stability is weak, the west is on the edge, it’s only a matter of time before it crumbles,” he said. “Iran will eventually lose any remaining restraint and go after Israel, Syria starts spilling across the border… When it all falls apart and the west is so weakened, who puts it all back together again?”...“This is about destroying sovereignty,” Beck asserted. “The United Nations will, in the end, broker the deal, making them the new superpower and making us just one of the guys. That’s what everybody wants, for the United States just to be average, just like everybody else…”

Will this be a way for New Age one world government to come about? This was called to my attention by Mike M. No one person can do all of the core research needed. It's why a group should have been gotten together decades ago.

da

Anonymous said...

Again, more from Mike M who got it from JPFA.
http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/publications/detail/800-public-libraries-bringing-islamic-propaganda-to-your-children?f=must_reads

800 Public Libraries Bringing Islamic Propaganda to your Children

This is a dangerous companion program to Common Core and CSCOPE designed to indoctrinate your children and grandchildren about Islam. As part of a National Endowment for the Humanities program funded by $150 million of our taxpayer dollars, 25 books and a DVD are being provided to 800 public libraries. No books are included on Judaism, Christianity, Buddhism, Hinduism, etc

Note:
An author I will refer to in another post suggests that emphasis on Islam is being used to break down the joined belief in Christianity and Judaism which has been the cornerstone of morality in the US. One world religion comes about the New Age way.

da

Marko said...

I think the immediate threat is Russia and China if we get entangled in and weakened by involvement in a Middle Eastern war.

But I could be wrong.

I just think that as long as Russia and China (and Islam) are still major powers, the New Age cannot come to the forefront. They are of the "Old Age". The Old Age divisions of West and East, whose cultures are based on the "Old" religions of Monotheists, has to come to a point of crisis - world war of immense proportions - in order for the New Age to come on the scene.

I don't think that will happen if ONLY the US ceases to be a world power.

The path ahead has too many variables though to make any definitive statement about how we get from here to there. We know what the end goal is (of the New Agers), but how to get there - well, isn't that one of the Big Questions for New Agers like Barbara Marx Hubbard? They think it will be some kind of spontaneous "link" of consciousness or "leap" in mankind's evolution. They tried to force it to happen back in the 80s, with their Harmonic Convergence and a bunch of other nonsense.

Anonymous said...

I should have been clearer. I've made some really nice friendships, but no serious ongoing research contacts as in let's work together on this project, put it together and get it out in a serious way. We share single things we have found, but it is mostly in a friends kind of way.

Dorothy

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

the way islam recruits, is they usually point out moral and social failures of the west that are real enough, offer women the option of wearing clothes that don't cater to lust or to self aggradizement, and FOCUS ON THE KORAN ALONE.

They don't tell you about Shariah and its manifold often non koranic and can get nasty.

The biggest problem short term, is that by taking the koran rule of it takes FOUR eyewitnesses accusing a woman of adultery (since it was an easy thing to do and often done out of jealousy by other women) and
APPLYING THAT TO ALL CRIMES, it makes any shariah run country effectively lawless.

There are other things, but that is a major problem, aside of course from the totally unacceptable theology.

Anonymous said...

Marco, you may have your political information correct, but you really have no clue about the New Age movement. It appears you have done no research on the topic. Do you not understand the nature of a movement? Let me make this parallel. Christianity can be considered a movement with a basic system of beliefs. In that movement there are many different organizations and individuals who may argue about specifics but agree on the basics. Political planning is long term. Many parts of the New Age movement are in place to convince the general public that what is occurring is inevitable, part of God's long term plan, part of the plan of the universe. This stops them from joining together to take action against the efforts of the long term government planners. If people can be convinced to believe it's all inevitable and for the long term good, they won't get in the way as the tea party people did. You aren't going to find New Age manipulated people among the tea party crowd.

da

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

I've made a start but I can see I am going to have to put links in one section and excerpts in another, except maybe for short intro remarks to a link.

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

well, I am working July 2005. I came across this "If our readiness to meet Christ is not conditional on knowing who is the antichrist and when is the beginning of tribulation, does it not argue strongly that the rapture is pre-trib?"

That is classic house of cards thinking. you build a supposedly logical deduction on something plus another deduction and it tracks back to SOME Scripture and some unexamined presmises.

No, no line of human reasoning of this sort can clarify pre trib or post trib.

WE WILL MEET CHRIST WHEN WE DIE, WHETHER THAT IS IN END TIMES OR NOT.

Our watchfulness is to characterize our entire lives, regardless of the age we live in. Not just for now. Watch our hearts (nous, deep level of mind) and emotions. Keep guard over our minds and emotions.

This is rule of life for Christians. (Eastern Orthodox call it nepsis or watchfulness.)

Now, pre trib is easily refuted by II Thessalonians, and the fact that Jesus will destroy the antichrist "by the brightness of His coming" and the description in Revelation that many would be beheaded for not worshipping the antichrist or his image and not taking his mark (which is his name, or his number, or some symbol he will designate as referring to himself).

yes, the church will go through that tribulation (but not the tribulation God brings on the earth against the antichrist and against his followers). satan's wrath is not God's wrath to which we are not appointed.

the church has always gone through persecution and tribulation and it is only a spoiled American and European church that could buy this pre trib nonsense.

Marko said...

da,

I understand how the New Age Movement works - I read Constance's book when it was first published and have been studying it ever since.

I just reject the notion of most people here (or maybe it isn't the notion of most people here...if not, forgive my presumptions) that the New Age movement is somehow integrated with "the powers that be", and have been manipulating world events to bring about their New Age.

Most New Agers totally reject the status quo of history, and "how things work", in favor of a new way of doing things. They reject the Left-Right construct, and dream of a "Third Way". And I do not underestimate the power of their movement and of their indoctrination into the general culture of the world. It's simmering there, under the surface, in groups like the Occupy crowd, the young people who reject both Republicans and Democrats, etc, etc. That kind of thinking, however, cannot trump the "traditional" thinking of totalitarianisms like Islam and Communism, who are warrior-like in the mentality. The age of the warrior is reaching a climax, and from the dust of whatever conflagration happens during that climax will rise the New Agers and their antichrist (whichever ones are left after being slapped into eternity by the bombs that will fly in the next world war).

For a while, I was looking for some kind of link between New Agers and the current set of totalitarians who are alive now, but as I look more and more, the less likely such a link seems, other than some general theme that includes a desire to remake the world to their liking, and to get rid of those who aren't on board with the remaking.

World events are ultimately in God's hands, and He is allowing things to unfold as He wills. Satan is doing what he can to take as many with him before the end as he can.

Perhaps God will intervene, and there will be no WW3. I think the likelihood of that happening is slim to none though, based on my reading of prophecy, and on the general geopolitical direction this world is heading. If that is the case, I could see the New Agers taking the credit for it, saying it was "aliens" who stopped us from destroying ourselves, or some such lie.

Anyway, I agree with you that "Many parts of the New Age movement are in place to convince the general public that what is occurring is inevitable, part of God's long term plan, part of the plan of the universe."

So what is it about what I've stated above that leads you to say I have no clue about the New Age Movement?

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

I have finished going through the July AD 2005 archives here, and came across a reference to video against Harry Potter. I have found what appears to be the transcript or based on it, in pdf at this URL

http://www.biblequestionsanswered.com/Booklets/BK-HDHP.pdf

for those who are interested.

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

http://tarpley.net/2013/08/29/syria-war-push-stalls/

Anonymous said...

Marco, you have parts of it correct, but you don't see a very important part, the connection with political people. The link to the New Age flyer had a paragraph which read
"Following on from the Fes􀆟val week seven years ago, we have seen great poli􀆟cal,social, and economic upheavals, alongside inspiring leadership from members of the New Group of World Servers. Examples
include the Occupy Movement, the Arab Spring and the on‐going focus, with varying
success, on achieving the UN Millennium Development Goals and crea􀆟ng a new green economy in response to climate
change and resource deple􀆟on."

(Interestingly the link wouldn't come up in Firefox. I had to use another browser.)

You do know that Obama was promoted by a major New Age group connected with Princeton.

If you do a search, you'll find much New Age activity in Russia. I've posted many things showing a connection between some groups in the New Age movement and the Islamic community.

The players are all on the stage. The show will go on. We in the audience will clap, cheer, cry. As a side note there is that whole population reduction agenda. War does that.

Anonymous said...

Be patient Christine/Infowolf1. You will distract everybody again. Isn't that your job? Oh gee, maybe I'm wrong.

Marko said...

Yes, but not all wars are "planned from the top" by some secret group of whomever. Sometimes war happens because bad or greedy or sinful or maniacal people somehow work their way (by themselves, no less!) into being the leader of their people, and those people hate a different group of people, and want what they have, or maybe just don't like them, so they go to war.

In my opinion, for what it's worth, war doesn't have to be part of some nefarious, hidden, elitist design (except the design concocted by Satan to destroy our Father's creation), and in most cases, it hasn't been and won't be.

New Agers have a tendency to claim credit for more than they should get credit for, and downplay any lack of success that they've had. Of course, don't we all do that from time to time? Human nature, and all that.

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

anon 6:27 made some very good points about influence. you don't need someone who is a major player in something to be a member of the lucis trust, or even to have heard of it.

Gov. Brown of CA used to be called "Governor Moonbeam" because of his New Age meditation involvement during his first term many many years ago.

Now, with all this "love equals accepting everything and anything as long - so far - as its nonviolent (and just wait a while they will figure out how that needs accepting also)" it is easy to slide with misapplied sympathy and so forth into supporting gays.

sure, you don't need to go and beat them up routinely especially if you are a cop. THAT is what triggered the gay uprising in I think it was Greenwich Village. But not doing that is not the same as acceptance.

Now, when I was researching the feri and other witchcraft scenes to figure out just what was back of a friend's grandson's death (he refused to join a racist version and the more I dug the more I ran into stuff that wasn't technically racist, but was ethno separatist in ultimate effect, because it focussed on ethnic distinct kinds of "spirituality" and paganism, as more appropriate because of what one's "ancestral [false] gods" would have been, and I ran into feri.

And in feri, in an egroup run by a guy who was implicated but never proven to be involved in the death of another young man in San Francisco many years ago, who had apparently come to this fellow's shamanism circle if not joined it, due to pursuing the Society for Creative Anachronism's potential in this direction (due to its receptiveness to any character of any culture before AD 1600 or 1500 I forget which, and often a focus for some on the paganism background though others, researching monks got interested in Christianity).

And in that egroup, at one point it was asked what effect the feri current had had on people what changes developed as they "grew" in this crap.

And over and over, a tendency to be more accepting and even to be open to experimenting with various sexual weirdness was mentioned. Typical of demon influence.

Now, the usual NAM meditator etc. is getting a less down and dirty presentation, both from the human and non human sources. But EXACTLY such derailment, albeit milder, could be expected to occur in a lot of people.

So, even without formal membership in a one world type NAM core organization, THE INFLUENCE OF SPIRITS ON THE ONE HAND, and the NAM kind of thinking on the other, would fit Gov. Moonbeam's signing rather than vetoing that disgusting bill, which Constance addressed in starting this post on her blog.

Of course this also fits the NAM depopulation agenda which incl. not only massacre one way or another, but also encouragement of homosexuality to lessen reproduction.

Now this MIGHT have played a conscious role in all this. Incl. some of the legislators.

(Who in CA at present include at least ONE high priest of the devil cult, pretends to be a Christian, and as high priest would have been the one doing the disembowelling style sacrifice of the human victim, on the rare occasions they managed to safely get one, they being very cautious having too many respectables at risk to be careless. And "the group" seemed to include a lot of bisexuals.)

of course, unless someone digs up some bones accompanied by some object with someone's DNA on it, this cannot be proven. But I have reason to believe my source.

Anonymous said...

Everyone should read history books, Tragedy and Hope for example which was written by Clinton's mentor. Much insider information. Not everything appears on front pages in headlines.

I doubt if either of us will affect the thinking of readers here. I tried to show where you were wrong. You discounted my information. No big deal.

paul from B4 said...

Christine,
Please please post more and more of your
thoughts. The more you post of your random
thoughts, the more everyone will benefit.
We all really need to hear everything that floats through your head.
It's so important and relevant to us all.
Your random flow of consciousness is what I wake up in the morning for.
I need more and more of your comments every day.
Please try to increase your output here on
Constance's blog.
Don't hold back because I don't care what you write as long as you just write write write !

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

paul or whatever your name is, you are the one spewing random thoughts.
If you can't take an in depth analysis, if your mentality can only handle what will fit on a bumper sticker, if you can't manage to see more than one piece at a time on a chessboard,

then go gag on your own drivel. Maybe go take some brain improvement lessons from luminosity or something. Or get back on your meds or on them.

I just handed everyone here a detailed explanation of how Marko is not getting the point, how you do not need a clear cut NAM core organization connection for it to be part effectively of their movement, EITHER by influence of the human sort OR of the non human sort.

And please, don't position yourself as defender of Constance's blog. All it does is make you look pathetic.

Just go do some research on the intricacies of influence and the paranormal side of it as well. Then you might have something intelligent to say.

Marko needs some help understanding things. I don't see you giving him any.

I am going to wait for the next blog segment before I say any more, to give Constance a break from you people nagging her by email.

Right now I am working on a project that collects those research links from her entire set of archives that Dorothy suggested would be a good idea.

Can you honestly say you are contributing anything useful? The link to the collection will post when I am done. I am only through July of AD 2005.

I even suggested this idea myself a few months back, but no, no one else can take the trouble.

Marko said...

I guess the only thing I would like to see change in the people's minds here would be the automatic presumption that "If it's hidden, it must be reality." In other words, more weight is given to a conspiratorial interpretation of history than to one that that adheres to the rule "the simpler explanation is the preferred one", and for no other reason than someone blew the whistle, so that someone must be correct, and everyone else is wrong, evidence to the contrary be damned (see "Black Swan Theory").

Anonymous said...

Christine at many times over the eight years I posted anonymously for long periods of time for reasons I won't go into. It became more important to get the information out than to attribute it. If you are going to take on a project, let me suggest you work with Constance, using her suggestions. Just my suggestion which she may find of interest, go with topics rather than names. That way everyone can share what others have posted. Many times many people contributed information to a particular topic with wider interests than I alone contributed. Those early years were truly interesting.

Marko said...

And Christine, if you are trying to help me, then you're wasting your time. I don't even read your posts anymore.

Marko said...

Well, except for the one from 9:06 PM. ;^)

Anonymous said...

Oh Marko, just whose posts are you talking about. I have gone out of my way to document everything, usually from the sources being spoken about. Every good researcher documents but goes way beyond surface explanations of history meant to comfort the clueless. Often there are contradictions between sources, but that's when further research is necessary.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carroll_Quigley Here is Quigley's bio. It's quite an interesting write up.

Marko said...

This may be a minor quibble, but in the wiki writeup about Quigley, I found this quote from "Tragedy and Hope" to be rather telling:

This radical Right fairy tale, which is now an accepted folk myth in many groups in America, pictured the recent history of the United States, in regard to domestic reform and in foreign affairs, as a well-organized plot by extreme Left-wing elements.... This myth, like all fables, does in fact have a modicum of truth. There does exist, and has existed for a generation, an international Anglophile network which operates, to some extent, in the way the Radical right believes the Communists act. In fact, this network, which we may identify as the Round Table Groups, has no aversion to cooperating with the Communists, or any other group, and frequently does so. I know of the operation of this network because I have studied it for twenty years and was permitted for two years, in the early 1960s, to examine its papers and secret records. I have no aversion to it or to most of its aims and have, for much of my life, been close to it and to many of its instruments. I have objected, both in the past and recently, to a few of its policies... but in general my chief difference of opinion is that it wishes to remain unknown, and I believe its role in history is significant enough to be known.

The influence of the radical left and Communism in American domestic and foreign affairs in the 20th century is neither a "fairy tale" nor a "folk myth" - it is established fact. The Communists did whatever they could to deflect criticism of their efforts to infiltrate and influence American policy, culture, education, you name it. They smeared McCarthy, successfully giving anti-Communism a negative stigma that lasts to this day.

Now I think I'm gonna go buy one of these:

http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingstuff.51833939

Anonymous said...

Marko,
I agre with you about McCarthy I did much research on communist front activity working with a woman who had walls and walls of files and many file cabinets filled with information on communist front activity.

Stop and think. Quigley was writing what he knew best. He was not researcher coming from a neutral position. My friend did her research from one basis. Quigley did it from another side. Each had their frame of reference. A third researcher could conceivably come in and come up with a different synthesis.

Quigley was on to some serious information otherwise the plates wouldn't have been destroyed, and the contact at the end of Quigley's life had an interesting observation.

This is not heaven where truth is organized and totally clear.

Anonymous said...

McCarthy was right about commies but was the wrong guy to lead the charge because he was incompetent, partly because he was alcoholic.

WW3 is coming but too many people say that the next war in the mideast will spark it. They said that about Gulf Wars 1 & 2 and they were wrong. Now they say it about US intervention in Syria. Maybe, maybe not, but they don't KNOW. It is possible to be certain and wrong.

paul said...

Dear Paranormal Princess,
Is it considered paranormal when one lights the wrong end of a cigarette ?
I mean, you thought it important enough to tell everyone...
Maybe you're approaching something from the wrong end. Or maybe the smell of burning cotton is indicative of something deeper; possibly something to do with your third, or forth chakra, or maybe it indicates a misplaced burning of time or some such thing... or not.
Anyway Christine, I await your every word.

Prof. Erwin Corey

Marko said...

LOL.... I have an Irwin Corey short monologue that I recorded off the radio back in the 80s.... it's hilarious!

Craig said...

I've mentioned before about my penchant for all sorts of music; well, this tune just came back to mind. I didn't realize how prophetic the lyrics would be:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8J9WssSj7Q

Band: The Replacements
Song: Androgynous (Paul Westerberg, 1984)

Here comes Dick, he's wearing a skirt
Here comes Jane, y'know she's sporting a chain
Same hair, revolution
Same build, evolution
Tomorrow who's gonna fuss

And they love each other so
Androgynous
Closer than you know, love each other so
Androgynous

Don't get him wrong and don't get him mad
He might be a father, but he sure ain't a dad
And she don't need advice that'll center her
She's happy with the way she looks
She's happy with her gender

Mirror image, see no damage
See no evil at all
Kewpie dolls and urine stalls
Will be laughed at
The way you're laughed at now


Now, something meets Boy, and something meets Girl
They both look the same
They're overjoyed in this world
Same hair, revolution
Unisex, evolution
Tomorrow who's gonna fuss
And tomorrow Dick is wearing pants
And tomorrow Janie's wearing a dress
Future outcasts and they don't last
And today, the people dress the way that they please
The way they tried to do in the last centuries

Constance Cumbey said...

War drums are beating -- loudly. Our Secretary of Defense, Charles Hagel, is a BEST FRIEND of JAVIER SOLANA. JAVIER SOLANA is a primary architect of the R2P (Responsibility to Protect) doctrine which is authority claimed by Obama to go in and bomb. This could well be a precursor for a dreaded WWIII and a necessary impetus for Javier Solana's long awaited "global governance" in a very real sense. I'm discussing this right now on my radio program, www.themicroeffect.com.

Google news today featured an article on the subject by none other than JAVIER SOLANA.

Constance

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Constance Cumbey said...

Christine,

Let's make an effort to combine your proposed posts into say, one per day, so as not to make everybody who conscientiously tries to read all posts think they have to wade through so much, "collapse comments" feature or not.

Everybody else, there is a "collapse comments" feature.

I dislike sites where I have to jump through multiple hoops to post. I have tried to avoid it for my own so we can have a truly open forum, but let's not abuse it.

Constance

Constance Cumbey said...

For those of you investigating ominous developments, check out the QUANTIFIED SELF MOVEMENT. I saw it twittered as part of the "Internet of Things" hashtag.

Constance

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

Constance, these are excerpts from the past, no comments allowed at present, and basically I eliminated arguing longwinded posts some I excerpted good information from.

A lot of the links are dead, and most but not all recoverable from archive.org The purpose is provide a resource for research, not a place to talk.

I figure if someone sees something there they want to add to, they can email me or can highlight, copy and paste and comment over here.

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

looking at the quantified self home page, and the wikipedia article, it looks at first harmless, but it includes elements that would acclimatize users to all kinds of totalitarian tracking and the information one puts into such self monitoring systems, given the NSA ability and probably others, could easily end up being used to target people, as individuals or as groups, for something not good.

you want to keep track of yourself? do it with pen and paper and burn the results don't put it in the garbage for anyone to get at.

Anonymous said...

Constance has asked Christine to stick to one post per day. Let's encourage that by not provoking Christine to post (while making necessary correction of any errors, of course).

Anonymous said...

Christine has a very strong will. My guess is that she will go nose to nose with Constance with all manner of rationalizations. Should be interesting.

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

Constance, I thought you were talking about the project of making an archive. Sorry I wasn't in good shape when I was reading that. too soon after I got up. okay here's my post for the day.
God bless the lot of you.
God has apparently blessed us with a big delay on starting WW III if at all. France who has stated they would go with us has said they won't go alone.
http://www.cnn.com/2013/09/01/world/syria-developments/


Meanwhile, a reporter talking with the FSA has found out the following:

the shipment came to them from Bandar bin Sultan who is apparently in charge of this sort of stuff. It was supposed to be sent on to Al Nusra.

But some FSA guys were "curious" about these new things, and started handling them. Oops.

My guess is
1. the gas weapons were to go eventually, through Al Nusra, to Russia, to be used in the threatened terrorist attacks there if Putin didn't back off supporting Assad,

and/or

2. they were either unstable enough on purpose, or the known capacity of FSA was counted upon to do this screw up, so that the incident would happen that would cross Obama's red line.

Saudi Arabia has been strongly supporting FSA with weapons because they (sunni) want the alawite (shia derived) regime which is shia friendly to go down.

Obama has decided to not attack Syria unless Congress says okay, and Congress is recessed until Sept. 9, and probably won't okay this move.

(even only a missile strike would get us in there boots on the ground potentially, because Syria has received missiles from Russia which are capable of hitting ships, and once American's started dying there would be a likely jingoistic outcry to avenge them.)

The sequence which Gen. Wesley Clark reported was in the planning stage, and was later accomplished in Libya and Egypt, until the Egyptian army overthrew Morsi because they didn't want to be sent into Syria, would then be back on track.

Anonymous said...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_Ghouta_attacks

The Syria chemical atrocity killed people in outer suburbs of Damascus held by the rebels on the one day of the week that the wind was not from the rebel area to the government-held central area. Evidence from a multitude of foreigners with no skin in the game. So which side did it? GO FIGURE. Anyone asserting conclusions opposite to the obvious one needs to cite sources explicitly and carefully. This is a most serious business.

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

http://www.wnd.com/2013/08/video-shows-rebels-launching-gas-attack-in-syria/ scroll down. Sorry Constance, had to answer this one.

Whatever you think of Corsi, the videos speak for themselves, and more info came from interviews with FSA fighters and their families and doctors and residents.

the wind being still would guarantee the gas would work locally, and since it was not from govt. held to rebel held it was either still or from rebel held to govt. held. multitude of foreigners with no skin in the game would incl. Doctors Without Borders, and it is precisely this kind of source that is blaming the rebels, NOT the govt.

Anonymous said...

One tiny step at a time can bring about control of the churches by the government. http://www.examiner.com/article/feds-ordered-missouri-christians-to-obtain-baptism-permits

Be sure to read the articles at the bottom which show support for Islam by government groups.

Craig said...

Thanks anon 7:25. The following should interest Constance, as it's in here neck of the woods:

As other examples of what many of the right have dubbed a liberal war on Christianity, Starnes notes that taxpayer dollars have funded more than a few expenditures have been earmarked to facilitate Muslim religious norms:

- •The New York Times reported that the University of Michigan-Dearborn spent $25,000 to install the foot-washing stations in restrooms. The university defended the expenditure, claiming it was for health and safety measures, not religion.

Constance Cumbey said...

Today is my husband's birthday -- 75!

Constance

Constance Cumbey said...

Marko,
re: 1:56 post
I trust this was that writer's opinion and not your own!! I'm sure that is the case. I'm off to check out the website.

Constance

Marko said...

Yes, Constance, that is most definitely NOT my opinion! In reading back over it, I can see how someone might think so.

I found it "interesting" in light of the postings Craig had been making about the New Age version of the second coming, ala Barbara Marx Hubbard's interpretation of that event, which of course is very New Age.

Sorry for any confusion I may have caused. Perhaps that is why Christine, da, and others have been trying to "help me out"??

My apologies to all for being so vague. Usually I'm not. :^)

Marko said...

The reason I noted the "Christian-ness" of the website was to note how easily one could get sucked in, who has not been grounded in the Word.

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

AP is the main source apparently for the FSA admission they did the gas attack.

"Syrian rebels in the Damascus suburb of Ghouta have admitted to Associated Press correspondent Dale Gavlak that they were responsible for last week’s chemical weapons incident which western powers have blamed on Bashar Al-Assad’s forces, revealing that the casualties were the result of an accident caused by rebels mishandling chemical weapons provided to them by Saudi Arabia. “From numerous interviews with doctors, Ghouta residents, rebel fighters and their families….many believe that certain rebels received chemical weapons via the Saudi intelligence chief, Prince Bandar bin Sultan, and were responsible for carrying out the (deadly) gas attack,” writes Gavlak. (back up version here). Rebels told Gavlak that they were not properly trained on how to handle the chemical weapons or even told what they were. It appears as though the weapons were initially supposed to be given to the Al-Qaeda offshoot Jabhat al-Nusra.
Read more at http://conservativebyte.com/2013/09/rebels-admit-responsibility-chemical-weapons-attack/#9m7lA0ICHbWMKLUx.99 "

and have you been following the exposes on the Benghazi thing? seems that was a weapons deal gone wrong. And we were shipping the weapons to the wrong sort of people. AS USUAL.

American so called interests are usually not in the interests of America, but of a parasite bankster nazi-compatible etc. we host. The same sort who wanted to overthrow FDR and install a fascist big corporation run govt. that Gen. Smedley Butler blew the whistle on.

http://www.eclectica.org/v1n1/reviews/wharton_plot.html

http://www.ratical.org/ratville/CAH/warisaracket.pdf

http://www.warisaracket.org/

I think the ambassador who got murdered may have been having second thoughts about all this.

Anonymous said...

Christine you are posting interesting stuff about Syria and I thank you. I think the web address you gave for that article at conservativebyte.com got truncated though.

Benghazi stinks alright. But FDR was a total Wall St insider - read the late Antony Sutton, the world's only conspiratorialist who knew how to work to academic standards.

Anonymous said...

"Eventually you'll have an implant, where if you think about a fact, it will just tell you the answer." - Larry Page

Google plans for eventual implant in everyone's head

Anonymous said...

Marko - that sure is a twisted blog you stumbled upon there - thanks for the warning about these mash-up teachings trying to creep into church. Did you read the diabolical blog entry on the Baptism of the Holy Spirit - http://www.spiritofthescripture.com/id1901-the-baptism-of-the-holy-spirit.html

"Have you ever wondered what the Baptism of the Holy Spirit is? As we dissect it from chapter one and two in the book of Acts, we learn it’s all about kundalini activation."

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~ K ~





Anonymous said...

5 posts and counting since Constance told Christine to limit herself to pretty much one a day.
Where's the respect for the opinion of the actual owner of this blog?
Thought you were going to post over on your own Christine where you can post all day long to your hearts content and your "followers" can hang on your every word?
I hear Professor Irwin Corey is one of them.

Constance Cumbey said...

Christine,

The information you posted on Syria and the possible dissemination of the chemicals by the rebels and not necesarily the Syrian government was both interesting and VALUABLE.

Thank you.

Constance

Constance Cumbey said...

Although I don't necessarily trust the Washington Times, the information here, if true, is significant:

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/may/6/syrian-rebels-used-sarin-nerve-gas-not-assads-regi/

http://tinyurl.com/msba72g

This is similar to Christine's posted information.

Constance

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

The FSA spokesman denial rings hollow, you wouldn't need anything special to launch such things, but would fit the scenario of these being intended to be sent to al Nusra.

Meanwhile, Russia is asking Turkey about Syrian rebels arrested on the border with sarin gas.....

http://www.turkishweekly.net/news/151261/russia-asks-turkey-for-info-on-sarin-terrorists.html

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/who-benefits-from-a-war-between-the-united-states-and-syria

Anonymous said...

Apparently the anti-Muslim Brotherhood media in Egypt are claiming that Barack Obama is a full member of that organisation and is being blackmailed in regard to his foreign policy under threat of releasing his membership details:

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/09/shocking-report-egyptian-media-says-obama-is-a-muslim-brotherhood-member/

Marko said...

The evidence seems to solidify that el-Assad was NOT behind the chemical attacks. According to an article by Yossef Bodansky:

There is a growing volume of new evidence from numerous sources in the Middle East — mostly affiliated with the Syrian opposition and its sponsors and supporters — which makes a very strong case, based on solid circumstantial evidence, that the August 21, 2013, chemical strike in the Damascus suburbs was indeed a pre-meditated provocation by the Syrian opposition.

And, according to the article, we helped stage the weapons for distribution. One would think that at the very least, the administration would know that by doing so, they would be helping groups like al Qaeda.

Sheesh.

"I was against al Qaeda before I was for them...."
--President Obama at his impeachment trials (we can only hope)

Anonymous said...

Christan Answers for a new age author Marcia Montenegro has posted a great facebookk post on Ken Wilbur, Ron Martoia and integral christianity.

Anonymous said...

8:43 - Facebook page
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Christian-Answers-for-the-New-Age/103502882236

Anonymous said...

To understand the New Age movement, one can't just look at "happenings." It's not just a matter of looking at something and going "Wow, look at what they are doing over there." You have to know that the same methods used by businesses are used by social change organizations, and a network of organizations it is.

This article deals with change agents in the business world and it show at what level the methods for change are taught.

http://knowledge.wharton.upenn.edu/article.cfm?articleid=2280
BP's Fiona MacLeod: A Change Agent Sees Change 'Addiction'

With that article there is another one - The Wilderness Foundation's Andrew Muir: Creating Custodians for the Future

New Age planning leads to a body of people who believe in the changes the leadership wants them to bring about and training them to make make that possible. On the way there is little, if any, discussion of alternatives.

da

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

"New Age planning leads to a body of people who believe in the changes the leadership wants them to bring about and training them to make make that possible. On the way there is little, if any, discussion of alternatives."

This reminds me of the concept of "leaderless resistance" in the domestic terrorist patriot group scene. It goes like this.

Instead of having a top down hierarchy, which can be decapitated and cripple the whole network, you have unrelated, non communicating cells and individuals.

These people which can include people the original group(s) never even met or had contact with, but studied the available stuff,

consists essentially of individuals who are so "educated" that they will do the (so-called) right thing at the right time in response to stimuli from the environment (gummint or whatever) so that formal leadership is unnecessary.

This is in other words, taking the myth of the lone nut and making it a reality.

(It is likely that this notion originated with special forces cadre thinking.)

NAM likewise churns out individuals who having been wound up like clocks now can run on their own, churning out "appropriate" words and actions and pushing for "appropriate" choices around them, using whatever excuses, regardless of whether they are hooked up to a formal NAM group or not, or even ever were - self educated on a diet of NAM literature and ideas, which in this day and age is not difficult.

Anonymous said...

Three videos dealing with Egypt and Syria
http://dcclothesline.com/2013/09/04/is-the-united-states-going-to-go-to-war-with-syria-over-a-natural-gas-pipeline/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7KeY830sLE
Incredible footage of the largest protest in mankinds history!! Egypt 2013

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtImFA3hso8
Egyptian Revolution: What You're Not Being told

Anonymous said...


Barrington is one of the richest suburbs of Chicago. Why are they keeping the lights off at Grove Avenue Elementary School there? Because they want to teach the children about the environment. Kids are also asked to wear something green on Tuesdays. Of course parents are upset. http://news.heartland.org/newspaper-article/2013/09/04/illinois-school-keeps-students-and-parents-dark Thanks to the Are We Aware Yet blog for this information. Next they will be asking students to bring candlesticks to school I think. Weird.

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

a separate required course for understanding 1800s and modern technology and its development, incl. no color requirement for clothes but how to function off grid in a disaster or on a hike and lost, might indeed be a good idea. But not this nonsense.

Anonymous said...

Not directly related to New Age, this essay does come up with thoughts on how New Agers view reality.

This is the best essay description of leftists I have ever seen. If the article is too long and you are short on time, read the short excerpts on the right. http://tongue-tied2.blogspot.com/2006_09_01_archive.html

Examples: The characteristic emotion of the Leftist is not envy. It's rage
Leftists are committed to grievance, not truth
If a conservative doesn't like guns, he doesn't buy one. If a liberal doesn't like guns, he wants all guns outlawed.
If a conservative is a vegetarian, he doesn't eat meat. If a liberal is a vegetarian, he wants all meat products banned for everyone.
Leftists are classic weak characters. They dish out abuse by the bucketload but cannot take it when they get it back.

Anonymous said...

I saw this article and thought it would be another of those attacks on religion. The study shows strong support instead.

1. http://tinyurl.com/lpnzcxl leads to 2.http://www.strangenotions.com/how-religion-benefits-everyone

And this article from the Wall Street Journal based on Baylor research
3. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122178219865054585.html
shows that the followers of religion tend to be more rational and less taken in by New Age pseudo-spiritual ideas.

da

Anonymous said...

http://video.foxnews.com/v/2643761138001/elementary-students-taught-that-government-is-your-family/?intcmp=obnetwork

Elementary school students in Skokie, IL school are taught in homework assignment that the government is your family.

Sounds too New Age and Germany in the '30s for me.

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

Preparing students for the challenges of tomorrow does not require this kind of extreme sort of govt. as family idea, and it isn't helped by common core.

however the critic still doesn't get it. We don't owe our existence to the govt, true, but we don't owe our existence to our family either. We owe our existence to God, and the family is just a means He uses, and is to raise us to be godly and secondarily good citizens (insofar as that doesn't mean being ungodly).

Anonymous said...

In another post it was reported that 4th graders in a school in Skokie were given homework which included the idea that the government is their family.

Well, surprise, surprise. Meet your Federal Family.
http://personalliberty.com/2013/09/05/meet-your-federal-family/

"Did you know that you have a Federal family, comrade?

"A news release from Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelious announcing National Preparedness Month informs Americans highlights the use of a new phrase entering the lexicon: Federal family...
"According to CNS News, the phrase has turned up multiple times over the past few weeks."

Daddy Barack and who will be Mama. Hillary or Nancy? We're on our way. Everyone cozy and ready to listen to Daddy and Mommy?

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkamZg68jpk&list=UUEHsSWvrGVSIA63OV3J6vhA

note the Gen. Wesley Clark interview

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

With Lindsay Graham saying terrorists might nuke South Carolina, and those AWOL nukes headed out there, looks like the elites are going to blow up the harbor or whatever there.

Marko said...

Yes, Christine, "the elites" are going to blow up South Carolina. How anyone could miss that is beyond me. I'm gonna call my cousin who lives in Virginia to leave, because of possible fallout floating her way. Thanks for the warning!

Today we have a civilization which daily moves millions upon millions of barrels of oil from one part of the world to another. If this flow stopped for any reason there would be a catastrophe. Yet the machinery functions, and must continue to function, moving faster and faster. The plotting and scheming which allows the machine to move is thought to be nefarious. Yet abundance is produced by this machine on a scale never before seen. We have before us a society more permissive than dictatorial, more lenient than harsh and more liberal than fascist.

Yet the conspiracy theorists decry its totalitarianism.

To accuse the leadership of this amazingly vibrant, productive and decadent civilization of unleashing a plot to purposely smash the engine which they themselves have sweat to build and maintain, is to propose a contradiction.

It is an odd conspiracy which, after a hundred or two hundred years, intentionally produces prosperity when it is alleged to be conspiring for pauperization. It is much simpler to theorize, instead, that the utopian projects of liberal civilization stem from the intellectual errors of the liberals themselves (i.e., the assumed perfectibility of humanity). Let it be noted that human beings often use their prosperity and power unwisely. This, in fact, is quite common and not at all extraordinary. No conspiracy theory is needed to account for the evils we see around us today. We are all-in-all sufficient to create such problems simply by "being ourselves."


--Jeff Nyquist

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

freedom vs. fascism is not measured in sexual debauchery, access to abortion, or any of these other things.

And one or two major events would be the occasion to bring in totalitarianism that has been creeping along to some extent.

No shallow arguments like Nyquist's which ignore the fact that when the dust settles these people would be in good relations with the new rulers of oil anyway, can change the fact that.....

The scenario Wesley Clark depicted has been playing out even if not perfectly on schedule.

Marko said...

"The scenario Wesley Clark depicted has been playing out even if not perfectly on schedule."

That is not "fact", as you claim, but conjecture. Therein lies your problem - an inability to differentiate between the two.

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

Excuse me?! the plan stipulated taking down Libya (check) Egypt (check but countercheck) Syria (stalled) Iran (working on it) and Bahrain has had its own "Arab Spring" problems lately.

Wake up and smell the coffee.

If a local street gang was overheard gossiping about plans to position in your town, and then their gang colors and/or those of an affiliated gang started showing up, what would you think?

If someone was overheard talking about driving you out of town, and then you start finding that your car has strange problems that a mechanic says were sabotage, the occasional broken window, and people you do business with start acting like seeing you scares them, what would you logically think?

I assume you would have the sense in either case, to figure the original report was correct.

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

I think part of your problem, is that you rely too much on people like Jeff Nyquist, who is part of the John Birch Society milieu.

Now, they did some excellent work, and it was one of the books they were pushing that even got onto the issues of its not communism as much as elites behind communism and fascism using them both and starting them both.

But they were all a pack of Masons and Mormons, and people like that have their own agenda, which you have to watch out for.

Susanna said...

This was just posted today at Breitbart.

Christian Airman Punished by Lesbian Commander Now Being Investigated for Talking to Media


by Ken Klukowski 6 Sep 2013, 2:33 PM PDT 8 post a comment


Updating our earlier report on Senior Master Sergeant Phillip Monk, a Christian serving in the Air Force whose unit is now commanded by a lesbian: according to Monk’s complaint filed with his superiors, he was relieved of duty for refusing his commander’s order to say he supports gay marriage.

Now the Air Force has taken the first steps to criminally investigate Monk for talking to the media about his situation. Despite the fact that earlier this year the Obama-Hagel Pentagon said they would never court-martial a service member for their Christian faith, they have taken the first steps to possibly court-martial Monk.

On Aug. 27, an Air Force investigator met with Monk and his attorney, Mike Berry from Liberty Institute. Berry expected it to be a routine meeting to take a statement from his client, but during the meeting the investigator said that he would read Monk his Miranda rights.

Monk was advised that he is being investigated for committing a crime by the U.S. military for making a false official statement, that he has the right to remain silent, and that he has the right to an attorney. The Air Force then assigned military defense counsel to him and is deciding whether to formally charge him with a crime, at which point Monk would either have to admit guilt and accept further punishment or face a court martial.

Monk is being investigated and might be formally charged for violating Article 107 of the Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ), which makes it a crime to make a false official statement. But Monk’s explaining his situation to the media is not an official statement.


cont....

Susanna said...

cont.

More than that, another element of this alleged crime is that Monk must be making a statement he knows is false or that he reasonably should know is false. All Monk is saying is that he believes he’s being punished because of his traditional Christian beliefs.

Monk explained in a statement to Breitbart News, “I immediately got the sense that this was a retaliation against me for coming forward with my religious discrimination complaint.”

Berry told Breitbart News by phone that the allegation being made against Monk is “a court-martial offense in the military. Monk was disheartened by what he believes is a retaliatory and vindictive act by his commander.”

Retired Lt. Gen. Jerry Boykin is the executive vice president of the Family Research Council, which recently published a report on how troops’ religious liberty is being infringed upon under the Obama administration and is a leader of a new coalition, Restore Military Religious Freedom.

On Monk’s situation, Gen. Boykin says:


We now see what is happening to Christians under President Obama and Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel. This appears to be an intimidation tactic to send a message to other Christians in the military that you better not speak up when we violate your religious liberty. A statement to the media is not an official statement, so it’s absurd to consider charging him with this crime. The Obama-Hagel military leadership is not officially court-martialing Christians for sharing the gospel of Jesus Christ, but you will be punished and might even face a court martial if you stand by the principles of your Christian faith when you are serving in uniform.

A court martial is a criminal prosecution in the military. Depending on the crime, punishments can range from reduction in rank and withholding pay to dishonorable discharge from the military or even imprisonment.

Boykin said FRC and the coalition is collecting signatures for a petition to the secretary of the Air Force, calling upon him not to punish Sergeant Monk for refusing to compromise his Christian beliefs.


Ken Klukowski is legal columnist for Breitbart News. Follow him on Twitter @kenklukowski.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2013/09/06/Christian-Airman-Punished-by-Lesbian-Commander-Now-Charged-with-Crime-for-Talking-to-Media-Court-Martial-Possible

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

http://dailycaller.com/2013/09/05/iran-threatens-brutal-attacks-on-americans-obama-family-if-us-hits-syria/2/

Given this information, no one who is a friend of Israel should support an attack on Syria. Frankly, with Israel in the crosshairs like this, and its only option being for the few survivors to send nukes at Iran, and yes they have plenty of them its an open secret, several other countries are not officially nuclear countries but have them,

which would then ignite more conflict,

the best thing to do is stay out of this.

Concerned said...

I don't get this rush to bomb Syria. Obama is like the Lone Ranger on this one (Kerry playing Tonto, of course). Shouldn't jump to Biblical conclusions on this one, but is Obama being a catalyst to something big here? Iran is threatening retaliation. Nothing good can come from it.

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

And Obama has all kinds of corrupt elite backing, and Kerry is Skull and Bones.

As for jumping to Biblical conclusions, there are two Biblical principles to bear in mind.

1. since you are probably talking about end times stuff, the command to WATCH as if Jesus is due back any minute, is to all for all time regardless of when He is due, it is a LIFESTYLE attitude that promotes holiness.

Jesus warned those who might figure out He isn't coming soon and they have time to sin a lot, "my master delays His coming, " and begins to get drunk and abuse fellow servants, such will be counted as an UNBELIEVER. (so much for once saved always saved no matter what which notion developed only in the past few centuries, is not biblical or a feature of early church writers.)

2. The real Biblical principles to apply, are that of insisting on accuracy and truth (Russia is doing a better job right now, and as an ally of Syria is in a better position to discipline them without starting something awful than we are), and not aggressiveness as an end in itself, not to mention the "strife and zeal" or self seeking and partisanism that James warns results in "confusion and every evil work," and has dominated the motives of powers that be for a long time. Well, actually, almost all of history.

These two things add up to, stay out of it.

Marko said...

Christine:

I must sincerely apologize. When I disagreed with your quote my brain read "Lindsay Graham" where you had written "Wesley Clarke". My mind was still stuck on the claim that South Carolina was going to be nuked.

Wesley Clarke's plan is something I am not familiar with.

Please accept my apologies!

As for Nyquist, if you'd read his book, you'd know that he is not part of the John Birch milieu, nor is he a Mason or Mormon. He's just a researcher who stumbled upon some rather interesting ideas about Russian long-term strategies.

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

apology accepted. I posted a link to the Clark interview. There is a Lindsay WILLIAMS who had an inside track with the big oil people, two of whom were leaking stuff to him and presented the same general picture years ago also.

Nyquist doesn't have to be a Mormon or Mason to be shaped by the views of such. Doesn't have to be a JBS member to tow their line. And this Golinsky (sp?) thing is open to question. JBS bought the story of the guy who claimed to be the Tsar heir apparent survived (yeah, right, a bleeder is going to take a bullet or two and live), who in turn is the source of the story that Kissinger was a Soviet asset code named "Bor." Well, that is BORing.

Such focus on commies keeps the eyes off who Kissinger and others really serve - the very non Jewish element behind them and who are ensconced in Wall Street and London and I think Brussells and Bern.

The whole style I am hearing about at least seems to be to identify an enemy of the US and never mind consequences or context or issues or anything.

JBS did manage to look a bit beyond the front layer and None Dare Call It Conspiracy and The Naked Capitalist were real eyeopeners, and in their bookstore they used to have in Redwood City. Life issues got me too distracted to follow close enough and take the next steps in research.

And I wanted some enemy to be gung ho about. Too aggressive and competitive in attitude.

While rejecting sexism I forgot to consider godliness in general My allegedly "masculine" personality wasn't godly period. Well, in some ways, yeah, but in a lot of ways, carnal. Ergo, too aggressive and competitive and not canny enough.

Anonymous said...

I knew Christine couldn't stay silent very long. Seven posts today and the day isn't over. Want to try for ten Christine/Infowolf1?

Roughly 11 days have passed between posts 201 and 326.
Christine has made 42 of the posts all by herself and many of them very long. During this time Constance asked her to limit her comments. Here by day is how it went -
4, 2, 5, 13, 2, 2, 1, 2, 2, 2, and yesterday we are back up to 7. Out of 125 posts, 42 were hers. During that time I made a strong effort to post many things anonymously hoping they could get attention.

If we are going to go back to Christine being blog hog, I will hesitate to post anything new here, well maybe occasionally. I don't like seeing my serious research and the research of others allowed to be smothered by someone who is a troll and contributes hardly anything to the discussion. This site needs time to renew itself or it will be smothered to death.

So all the Birchers were Mormons or Masons? At which wacko site did you learn that at Christine/Infowolf1? During the '80s when Birch was active I visited a Birch bookstore regularly and there was no such material there. There are other reasons to suspect the organization, but your analysis is very stupid.

Anonymous said...

Well, I guess it went up to 8 today. Trying for ten Christine/Infowolf1?

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

of course there were no such material as Mason or Mormon there. That wasn't the purpose of the JBS.

Here's something on them.
http://www.watch.pair.com/belmont.html

Anonymous said...

That's 9. One more to go and you have a bit of time left.

If that's what you consider supporting material, it's very weak. Alan Stang did a much better negative analysis of Birch without all of the bull.

My problem with Birch was they were selling antisemitic material out of the backroom and they had nothing relating to current information. All of their material was from the '50s.

You still have time to reach 10 Infowolf1.

paul said...

Christine,
Thanks so much for the ongoing JAMMING.
Who are you doing this for ?

Constance Cumbey said...

I'll be posting another article sometime later today. I'm on the THEMICROEFFECT.COM in just a few minutes and you can join us in the chatroom by going to chatroom.themicroeffect.com. I have a guest from SYRIA today who is of one opinion and her brother, a physician is of a differing opinion. Both are highly educated people who have kept up with the situation back home. They are personal friends of mine in the Detroit metropolitan area. Should be interesting. Please join us!

Constance

Constance Cumbey said...

Susanna, CRITICAL information. THANKS!

Constance

Anonymous said...

More on the government is your family theme, only in Germany. http://politicaloutcast.com/2013/09/germany-guilty-terrorism/

"n 1938, Adolf Hitler established a law requiring all German children to attend state run public schools to insure that the kids would be properly indoctrinated with the Nazi fascist philosophy. That law has never been repealed. Now that Germany seems to be leaning towards socialist politics, Hitler’s anti-homeschool law is being enforced, with force if necessary..."

" Last week, I shared with you the terrifying experience of Wunderlich family in Darmstadt, Germany. Early in the morning just as their four kids were starting their school lessons, twenty police and government agents armed with assault weapons and battering ram appeared at the family’s home with a court order to take the kids by force if necessary. Social workers that accompanied the police took custody of the Wunderlich children and informed the parents that there was no telling when they might see their kids again, if ever."

People have no idea how powerful and corrupt the judiciary is now in the US. My friend is still trying to make contact with her two very young daughters. They have bankrupted her, ruined her health, and she cannot afford to pay any more lawyers, so she is fighting representing herself. As such she has talked with other parents who have had their children taken away and knows case law better than most lawyers. If you have not followed Lawless America recently, it's time to catch up. Put the name and go to Facebook, the blog, information about the movie, stories, etc.

Craig said...

RE: Susanna's comment, it's important to understand that Boykin has aligned himself with the dangerous, Dominionist, New Apostolic Reformation. Additionally, he's a member of Knights of Malta, along with NAR member Rick Joyner. Boykin is also on the board of Rick Joyner's Oak Initiative, along with other NAR members:

http://www.theoakinitiative.org/board-members#.UitSc2wo6po

Anonymous said...

Only connected to New Age by a short thread, but when the very leftist Southern Poverty Law Center gets concerned about something on the left, you can bet things are very dangerous. Otherwise they keep their mouths shut and attack anything conservative and support anything leftist. http://libertyalliance.com/2013/09/obama-another-brother-racist/

Anonymous said...

I posted this in the past, but it's an important piece, deserving notice again.

http://www.gnostics.com/newdawn-1.html

Occult Roots of the Russian Revolution

Susanna said...

Hi Craig,

FYI Knights of Malta has a Catholic and non-Catholic branch.

The Catholic branch is the Sovereign Military Order of Malta and is the Rome-based successor of the Knights Hospitaller, widely considered a sovereign subject;

SOVEREIGN MILITARY ORDER OF MALTA

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sovereign_Military_Order_of_Malta
_______________________________

The non-Catholic (Protestant branch is the Order of Saint John (Bailiwick of Brandenburg), the Berlin-based Protestant branch of the Order, from which it separated during the Reformation.

ORDER OF ST. JOHN (Bailiwick of Brandenburg)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_Saint_John_(Bailiwick_of_Brandenburg)
________________________________

Another mostly Protestant Malta group is the Venerable Order of St. John, a royal order of chivalry established in 1831.

VENERABLE ORDER OF ST. JOHN

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venerable_Order_of_Saint_John
_________________________________

Finally, there is also a Masonic order known as the Order of Malta which is associated with the Masonic Knights Templar.

KNIGHTS TEMPLAR (FREEMASONRY)

The Degree of Knight of Malta (Order of Malta)[edit source]


The Maltese Cross, symbol of the Order of Malta.
This degree is universally associated with the Masonic Knights Templar. In the York Rite system it is conferred before the Templar Degree; in the 'stand-alone' tradition it is conferred subsequently to the Templar Degree. It is known by varying degrees of formality as the Order of Malta, or the Order of Knights of Malta, or the Ancient and Masonic Order of St John of Jerusalem, Palestine, Rhodes, and Malta. In practice this last and fullest version of the name tends to be reserved to letterheads, rituals, and formal documents.

The ceremony for conferring the degree (which is always worked in full) contains a mixture of masonic tradition, historical accounts of the Order of St John, moral teaching, and the communication of modes of recognition between members. A series of banners is employed in the ceremony, each representing one of the great battles of the historic medieval Order of St John, whose story is the basis of the moral teachings of the degree.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_Malta_(Freemasonry)#The_Degree_of_Knight_of_Malta_.28Order_of_Malta.29
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I must admit that I do not know much about Jerry Boykin.. You probably know a lot more about him than I do, but for what it is worth, Boykin, whose views have generated considerable controversy, is a member of the Order of St. John.


Susanna said...

Anonymous 2:45 A.M.

The OCCULT ROOTS OF THE RUSSIAN REVOLUTION gives an excellent overview of the esoteric underpinnings of the Russian Revolution and the totalitarian monstrosity that morphed out of that revolution.

Thanks for posting it.

Craig said...

Susanna,

Thanks for the delineation on the Knights of Malta. I wasn't trying to paint the NAR and Boykin as being in collusion with the RCC on a Dominionist agenda and vice versa. It was more to illustrate that Boykin has aligned himself not just with the 'religious right', but that he's aligned himself with the very dangerous New Apostolic Reformation. Whether he's fully informed of their beliefs, I cannot know.

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

http://www.alternet.org/visions/true-history-libertarianism-america-phony-ideology-promote-corporate-agenda?akid=10901.253027.6oTMF9&rd=1&src=newsletter893563&t=3&paging=off

given this background and the companies that founded it, it looks like libertarianism, though it can be used against the NWO, is also to some extent a tool of it.

Susanna said...

Dear Craig,

I was not implying that you were trying to paint the NAR and Boykin as being in collusion with the RCC on a Dominionist agenda and vice versa.

However, there are plenty of ignorant anti-Catholic bigots running around who might.

There are certain radical "Traditionalists" who have their own Dominionist agenda, but since the rad Trads tend to think that Protestants are on their way to hell in a hand basket, it is unlikely that they would be caught dead colluding with Protestants. :-)

Anonymous said...

Constance:

Please send us reminders (dates, times, plus post the link each time) so we can remember to tune in and listen to your broadcast discussions.

Thank you.

Anonymous said...

Right now on C-Span we are hearing many Representatives talk about the loss of our freedom of speech, particularly in connection with religion. I had not heard about a Christian pastor who was working to build an orphanage in Iran who was sentenced to eight years in jail because he was a Christian. Obama ignores the case of Saeed Abadini. Another representative talked about the case Susanna spoke of. Rep. Gohmert of Texas is speaking now. Rep. Fleming just spoke. It's 7:27 DCT on MOnday.

Anonymous said...

The House is empty as Rep. Pearce of New Mexico speaks as the need for freedom of religion. I mention these names as people you can contact for more information. He is talking about the photographer who didn't want photograph a homosexual wedding. The photographer was fined $6,000.

Anonymous said...

Congressman Griffith of Virginia is now speaking about freedom of religion.

Rep. Forbes of Virginia is now speaking about freedom of religion.

Rep Hakeen Jeffries D of New York is now speaking about unionism.

These speakers are speaking under the tag General Speeches where they are allowed up to one hour.

Anonymous said...

Are there no posts because no one can define the New Age movement any more?

Anonymous said...

http://www.haaretz.com/news/features/.premium-1.544616


Why a Carmelite nun believes the chemical attack in Damascus was faked.

A friend sent me that photoshopped picture supposedly of children laid out right next to each other who supposedly were killed by the chemicals. It was so clear it was photoshopped that it was pulled down quite rapidly.

It is so clear that Obama has sold out America to the Muslim Brotherhood. The only thing that seems to bother him is that his buddies over there in Syria might see him as the weakling he is.

Anonymous said...

Dear Constance,

The Pope is calling for a week of prayer and fasting. It almost looks like the site was done by Evangelicals with the exception of Mary and the rosary. At first the it appears to be the White House, because of the Lincoln Monument, but you will see that it's Rome.

Tom Horn draws a link between Rome and Washington DC, because of the similarity of the design with the obelisk and the dome.

http://www.newswithviews.com/Horn/thomas131.htm

http://iwopf.org/

A friend sent me this with the Shift Network and a multi-religious group in support of the Pope's week long fasting and prayer:

http://tinyurl.com/onuukwp

Shift Network has just finished a Summer of Peace:

http://summerofpeace.net/

September 21, 2013 is a big day with the International Day of Peace and the Global March for Peace.

Is all of this be setting the stage for the false peace of the Antichrist? A war in Syria could easily become WWIII with Russia, Iran, Lebanon, Israel and Europe and other Middle Eastern countries.

Anonymous said...



If this doesn't tell everyone that the Shift Network is New Age, nothing will.

http://iwopf.org/
Stephen Dinan is the Founder and CEO of The Shift Network, a member of the prestigious Evolutionary Leadership Council and the former Director of Membership and Marketing at the Institute of Noetic Sciences He is the author of Radical Spirit (New World Library), and a forthcoming book Sacred America

What is the Evolutionary Leadership Council?
http://evolutionaryleaders.net/acalltoconsciousevolution/evolutionary-leaders
"If we are now in a period of twilight and uncertainty, is this before darkness – and all hell is about to break out – or before dawn – as we prepare for a momentous leap into a new civilization? Which is it?"

Now think!!!! Common Core is about changing students now, the people of the future, into the New Man more than it is about learning academic subjects.

New Age people are not above distracting others from what is going on by telling them to pray to change things rather than keep their eyes open, ask questions and do some research into what is going on.

Thanks for that very informative post.



Anonymous said...

By the way, should any periods come out looking like semi-colons on links, just change them.

Should anyone need more proof that this is a New Age project, look at the partners listed for the Summer for Peace project as well as Prayers for Syria

http://summit.summerofpeace.net/Partners

http://summerofpeace.net/resources/

With names like David Spangler and Marianne Williamson on the list, you have got to know it's New Age.

Again, thanks for the research.

Constance Cumbey said...

Christine,

I remind you, this is MY BLOGSPOT. I am both practicing law actively and engaged in extremely deep research for things I only post after being completely certain of my facts and my sources. I don't post "only occasionally."

To the rest, I appreciate the comments and helpful research.

Constance

Constance Cumbey said...

So, the Evolutionary Leadership Council is now teamed up with DEEP PIT COBRA (Depak Chopra), Barbara Marx Hubbard, et al. Their arrogance and determination are well shown by Mr. Beck's posted statement on their website:

DON BECK
For the last four decades I have sought to understand psychology at the large scale: the design and transformation of whole societies. This involves characteristics of the mass mind; the underlying DNA-like Codes that shape human groupings within various habitats and Life Conditions; and, now, the unique dynamics of change, shifts, and transitions. My world is full of cycles, spirals, force fields, multiple identities, conflicting ideologies, Us vs. Them polarities, and a map full of political, economic, religious, social, racial and ethnic cells. I sense order in this chaos, with billions of humans passing through different zones in the premodern, modern, postmodern, and now integral flows. Any serious effort at global transformation must bring the entire spiral of value systems with it. The danger is that we will simply project our own affluent world views on to people who are struggling with different Life Conditions, who are not as “enlightened” as we are. Our efforts must be deep, broad, proactive and systemic.


Constance

Anonymous said...

Just one typo in that comment of Don Beck's. He was clearly referring to his "effluent world view". At least I think it is bullshit.

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

Constance I apologize if I chose my words poorly. I took it for granted that the reason that you don't post as often as others here is that you are busy. I assumed others would know that also.

I do not understand why those posts that present tools to make war on the New Age with are precisely the ones that draw the most fire.

Also, the masonic angle seems to be disliked. (probably for fear that it is a cover for antisemitism, despite the fact that its doctrines are blasphemous from a Jewish perspective as well as Christian, since masonry posits that the false gods that YHWH made clear He hates are falsely called just alternate names for God and even combine YHWH's name with theirs to make "jahbulon." Rabbi Antelman's To Eliminate the Opiate shows that the Reform movement began as an effort to destroy Judaism, and it fits nicely with masonic notions. Nazi attacks on masonry and other secret societies were just an effort to eliminate occult competition for their own occultism, much like a nation wouldn't want any but their own armed forces having machine guns. In the US south, if someone was both mason and baptist you could nearly count on it he was also KKK which was also antisemitic.)

Anonymous said...

"Constance I apologize if I chose my words poorly."

And did you choose your words poorly Christine, ie are you apologizing to Constance or just creating the illusion of it?

Susanna said...

Dear Anonymous 6:25 A.M.

While there are apostate Catholics to be sure, people need to be very careful not to paint all Catholics with the same brush because of those apostates - just as Catholics likewise need to be careful not to paint all Protestants with the same brush because of a few apostates within their ranks who presume to speak in the name of all Protestants.

The Pope did call for a day of prayer and fasting on Saturday, September 8 when we appeared to be standing on the brink of war on account of Syria. And what, pray tell, is wrong with that???? ......especially since Christ Himself clearly tells us in the Bible that some devils can only be driven out by prayer and fasting ( Mark 9:29).

Moreover, as the Bible also tells us "For our wrestling is not against flesh and blood; but against principalities and power, against the rulers of the world of this darkness, against the spirits of wickedness in the high places. (Ephesians 6:12)

Christ did not drive the devil out by Beelzebub as he was accused of doing by the Pharisees. ( Luke 11:18-19 ) Neither does the Pope drive the devil out by Beelzebub. He drives them out in the name of Jesus Christ.

For those who do not know who Tom Horn is, he is the person who co-authored the sensationalistic piece of theology fiction entitled PETRUS ROMANUS which is said to be based on the "prophecies attributed to St. Malachy.

I say "theology fiction," because presumably Tom Horn is a Protestant whose rule of faith is "Sola Scriptura." Therefore "Petrus Romanus" would be fictitious by Tom Horn's own rule of faith since nowhere in the Bible does it clearly state that the Roman Catholic Pope is either the Antichrist, the false prophet or one of his minions.

To say that the reaction of certain Protestants like Tom Horn to the St. Malachy prophecies is strange is an understatement - especially in the last few years, during which vehemently anti-Catholic “religious groups” who consider themselves “Christians” have been having a veritable field day with the Petrus Romanus prophecy .... although they reject the Roman Catholic Church, reject her saints, and only accept biblical prophecy -from a severely edited Bible, which they interpret privately, each pretending his own views are inspirations from the Holy Ghost.

Catholics are not in the habit of allowing prophecies ( a.k.a. private revelations ) such as those of St. Malachy to trump Holy Writ.

cont...

Susanna said...

cont...

Again, Tom Horn claims to base his theology fiction PETRUS ROMANUS on the so-called prophecies of Saint Malachy in his claim that the next pope (following Benedict XVI) is to be the final pontiff, Petrus Romanus or Peter the Roman. Unfortunately, this view is also held by certain radical Traditionalist Catholics, who likewise base their opinion not only on their assumption that the prophecies are authentic and on a par with Scripture, but also on a misreading of the Prophecies of St.Malachy themselves.

By the way, these prophecies which are attributed to St. Malachy were not discovered until 1590.

They were first published by Arnold de Wyon, and ever since there has been much discussion as to whether they are genuine predictions of St. Malachy or forgeries. The silence of 400 years on the part of so many learned authors who had written about the popes, and the silence of St. Bernard especially, who wrote the "Life of St. Malachy", is a strong argument against their authenticity, but it is not conclusive if we adopt Cucherat's theory that they were hidden in the Archives during those 400 years.

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/12473a.htm
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The Catholic encyclopedia goes into detail about St. Malachy's prophecies - including the last prophecies which concern the end of the world.



The last of these prophecies concerns the end of the world and is as follows: "In the final persecution of the Holy Roman Church there will reign Peter the Roman, who will feed his flock amid many tribulations, after which the seven-hilled city will be destroyed and the dreadful Judge will judge the people. The End." It has been noticed concerning Petrus Romanus, who according to St. Malachy's list is to be the last pope, that the prophecy does not say that no popes will intervene between him and his predecessor designated Gloria olivæ. It merely says that he is to be the last, so that we may suppose as many popes as we please before "Peter the Roman". Cornelius a Lapide refers to this prophecy in his commentary "On the Gospel of St. John" (C. xvi) and "On the Apocalypse" (cc. xvii-xx), and he endeavours to calculate according to it the remaining years of time.

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/12473a.htm
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It was the Church Father St. Irenaeus who once warned us to be very careful about presuming to think that we knew the name of the antichrist..... since he could very well come having another name and we would then fail to recognize him in consequence of our own ignorant assumptions.

Craig said...

Well, Susanna, you beat me to the punch re: Tom Horn. I had responded to some comments on Amazon regarding the irony of Protestant Horn's use of St. Malachy to 'prove' his very poor thesis (and some very unchrist-like comments from both sides of the Protestant and RCC camp).

In any case, that's not the only place in which his 'scholarship' is dodgy. Suffice to say, I'd never reference Tom Horn!

Susanna said...

Craig,

I do not believe that you would ever reference Tom Horn. In my discussions with you, I have always found you to be both a gentleman and a Christian.

I don't bear any ill will to the person(s) who cite Tom Horn. I am sure he/she is not thinking in terms of how it goes contrary to his/her Rule of Faith.

Anonymous said...

Constance,
It also appears that the Shift people have teamed up with the pope! Why do you fail to mention that? The thing most telling about the pope's prayer for peace in Syria, was a total lack of reference to Jesus Christ, who as our High priest is our only mediator between God and men! He is also our Savior and Lord! "For there is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus" (1 Timothy 2:5)-Douay Reims
While I have no interest in anything that Tom Horn has to say, it is very hard to overlook the occult symbolism throughout Rome and in St. Peter's Square. http://saintpetersbasilica.org/Exterior/Obelisk/Obelisk.htm

Constance Cumbey said...

New article up -- time to refresh your browsers! Thanks! I'm particularly interested in Susanna's input on the new story.

Constance

Susanna said...

Socialist publication: We can ‘change the world’ through abortion and gay ‘marriage’
by Ben Johnson

Wed Sep 11, 2013 10:34 EST

September 11, 2013 (LifeSiteNews.com) – A publication of the international socialist movement has explicitly stated it is promoting abortion and gay “marriage” as part of a multi-pronged campaign to “replace global capitalism” with Marxism.

The admission came on Monday in an article entitled "How Can We Change the World?" by Todd Chretien in the Socialist Worker, which is published by the International Socialist Organization. The ISO proudly “stands in the tradition of revolutionary socialists Karl Marx, V.I. Lenin, and Leon Trotsky.”....read more.....


http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/socialist-publication-we-can-change-the-world-through-abortion-and-gay-marr?utm_source=LifeSiteNews.com+Daily+Newsletter&utm_campaign=d3fc61b5c0-LifeSiteNews_com_US_Headlines_06_19_2013&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_0caba610ac-d3fc61b5c0-397479789

Susanna said...

Hi Constance,

See you at the next thread. :-)

Susanna

Susanna said...

Anonymous 8:31 P.M.

The Pope certainly did refer to Jesus Christ in his homily....

Violence, he said, repeats the sin of the first murderer, Cain.

“We bring about the rebirth of Cain in every act of violence and every war. All of us,” Pope Francis declared. “Even today we continue this history of conflict between brothers. Even today we raise our hand against our brother.”

He considered whether it was possible for humanity to change direction.

“Can we get out of this spiral of sorrow and death? Can we learn once again to walk and live in the ways of peace?” he asked.


“Yes, it is possible for everyone!” he declared. He called on every person, including those who govern nations, to say “yes” to peace.

The Pope placed the Crucifixion of Jesus Christ at the center of his homily.

“My Christian faith urges me to look to the Cross. How I wish that all men and women of good will would look to the Cross if only for a moment!”

“In the silence of the Cross, the uproar of weapons ceases and the language of reconciliation, forgiveness, dialogue and peace is spoken,” he explained.


The Pope reflected on the goodness of creation as taught in Genesis, where humanity is “one family, in which relationships are marked by a true fraternity.”

In the beginning, mankind’s relationship with God “mirrors every human relationship and brings harmony to the whole of creation,” explained Pope Francis.

Although the world is now marked by sin, this original goodness should inspire us, the Pope urged.

“This evening, in reflection, fasting and prayer, each of us deep down should ask ourselves: Is this really the world that I desire?”

Each person must realize that “to be human means to care for one another,” he continued, calling this a way to peace
........

http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/embrace-peace-pope-tells-massive-prayer-vigil/

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