Saturday, February 05, 2011

"New Age Pride" ??!!




Author Teena Booth is another New Ager not afraid to witness her convictions, in the somewhat dubious tradition of Gordon Davidson and Rene Wadlow.  She does not understand why the New Agers are afraid to call themselves by their right name:  "New Ager."  I just spent a couple of hours perusing her website.  I suspect she is one who was indoctrinated into New Age thinking in her formative years.  It appears to me as though her biblical knowledge and convictions are extremely limited.  She wants the New Agers to stop slinking around and "take pride" in their cause.  Clearly, she fails to see the "Hidden Dangers" of her shiny New Age "rainbow."  There were links to her elaborate website for a couple calling themselves "Loehr- Daniel."  I rather suspect that Teena has seen only "positives" on this movement.  Loehr-Daniel are another story.  They exemplify a disturbing trend I have found in more deeply "initiated" New Agers such as Marilyn Ferguson was:  sympathy for Lucifer.  Their "Bible Study" course and on line book, available for free reading from Teena's website has three chapters telling us how much God loves Lucifer.  Our job, per the Loehr-Daniels, is to help God in his quest to forgive and redeem Lucifer!

I have a chapter in THE HIDDEN DANGERS OF THE RAINBOW about "how to help New Agers." It might help you in dealing with the Teena Booths of the world who see only "positives," not the very obvious "negatives" (in more realistic terms EVIL) of the New Age Movement.  I rather suspect Teena Booth has not deeply or critically read many of the New Age works that I have perused which motivated me to take on the New Age Movement almost as a crusade.  Hopefully, she does not know of the New Age goals of massive global population reduction; sympathy for Lucifer; targeting of Monotheist religions (Jews, Christians, and yes, even Moslems) by having all three groups exterminate each other so that the New Agers can be the "Phoenix" to rise from our collective ashes.

The above video which I found on an internet search for the creator of the website, NEWAGEPRIDE, shows Teena lecturing to what appears to be a public library somewhere.  They appear to be eating up the words of the obviously sincere, but hopefully naive author.

Yes, there are "hidden dangers" to the New Age Movement.  It is our job to reach as many of these deluded people as possible.  Such were once some of you!  

Stay tuned!


CONSTANCE

116 comments:

Constance Cumbey said...

Looking at video again, it might be a bookstore. Library or bookstore, this is disturbing to see such impressionable young people buying this. Even though THE HIDDEN DANGERS OF THE RAINBOW was a best seller, there were huge efforts to suppress it. Borders was organized and run by New Agers. Even though I was a Michigan author who was a huge customer of that book chain, employees confided in me that there had been a corporate meeting back in 1983 on the book and a corporate decision had been made not to carry it. Barnes & Nobles and the B. Dalton chain were carrying it, however.

Constance

JD said...

Speaking of depopulation

UN 'concerned' by world population growth trend

The world population growth rate must slow down significantly to avoid reaching unsustainable levels, says a new UN report.

To have a reasonable chance of stabilising world population, fertility must drop to below "replacement level".

It must then be maintained at that level for an extended period, says the report.

This replacement level is the fertility level at which a population replaces itself from one generation to the next.

more at link

http://tinyurl.com/464v6ot

Unfortunately the deluded have back up in high places. Hence why it feels like a uphill battle with some I guess?!?

Constance Cumbey said...

The powerful New Agers are definitely on the march now, AGGRESSIVELY SO!

Constance

Constance Cumbey said...

Rene Wadlow was a contemporary of Donald Keys and picked up where Keys left off -- right under my radar for too many years!

Constance

Constance Cumbey said...

The old New Age vanguard is claiming inspiration from Ms. Booth's new call to New Age action, including but not limited to Mr. Luciferic Initiation himself, David Spangler! Check this:

Tһе Phoenix, Arizona-based Booth agreed tһе lack οf a common identity mаkеѕ іt difficult fοr those wһο practice alternative spirituality tο recognize each οtһеr аחԁ mаkе connections. Sһе аƖѕο knew tһе term Nеw Age һаѕ taken ѕοmе knocks іח рοрυƖаr culture, ѕο ѕһе set tο work οח a site designed tο better define аחԁ defend tһе emblem.

Aѕ soon аѕ tһе first pages wеrе up, Booth ѕауѕ, ѕһе ѕtаrtеԁ getting emails frοm all over tһе country. “I heard frοm people wһο used tο call themselves Nеw Age аחԁ felt tһеу lost tһеіr spiritual identity wһеח tһе term fell out οf fashion іח tһе 1990s. Bυt I аƖѕο heard frοm a lot οf people wһο wеrе unaware οf tһе term bυt wеrе һарру аחԁ relieved tο һаνе a name tο call tһеіr set οf beliefs.”

Sһе аƖѕο heard frοm author David Spangler, ԁеѕсrіbеԁ bу Encyclopedia Britannica аѕ “tһе major architect οf tһе Nеw Age movement.” Hе wrote Booth tһаt һе wаѕ “thrilled” tο discover tһе site, аחԁ wаѕ especially gratified bу tһе site’s focus οח collective transformation, аח impetus οf tһе early movement tһаt wаѕ lost аftеr a 1980s turn toward personal development.

“I felt Ɩіkе аח οƖԁ Nеw Age workhorse ready tο wear tһе saddle again,” һе wrote. “I wаѕ inspired


From New Age Movement Back on Cultural Radar

Phoenix, AZ (PRWEB) August 27, 2009
http://freeonlinetarotcard.com/tag/movement/

Constance

Anonymous said...

With the New Age movement so large and powerful, connected with what is happening in Egypt, why waste time on some little follower of the New Age movement. It's as much of a diversion as just following what is going on in Europe.

Dorothy said...

Check this one out people.
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=259777

"Bloodless persecution' predicted for Christians
Expert says European hostility to free, open demonstrations of faith growing."

We saw the persecution of Christians when Muslims have been able to attack them. The Muslims are being used by the New Agers just as they were used by the Nazis.

The Muslim presence is growing in the US. We should be concentrating on what is going on here in the US in that connection and learning how we can take a stand against what is growing.

We are not going to change New Agers one individual at a time as long as their support system is so large. And even if we do change one or two, just what will that do to the support system.

We are long past the time when a book or two will stop the movement. The Christian and Jewish communities have been corrupted and will no longer be curious enough to listen and spread the word. Something else has to be done.

Constance Cumbey said...

To Anonymous 1:31

What is YOUR GAME????!!! Talking about Europe or New Agers is hardly a diversion! I am not into a libertarian, shoot-em-dead game. I am concerned about the deception and the souls of those buying into New Age deception!

Constance

Constance Cumbey said...

To Anonymous 1:31

What is YOUR GAME????!!! Talking about Europe or New Agers is hardly a diversion! I am not into a libertarian, shoot-em-dead game. I am concerned about the deception and the souls of those buying into New Age deception!

Constance

Constance Cumbey said...

What some fail to recognize is that what makes the New Age / Nazi / Communist elements so terribly dangerous is the "Lucifer" element. We are looking at a movement of mass possession in various guises/disguises. What well may have discouraged the speedy implementation they thought it would get in the early 1980s in the wake of the fall of the Shah of Iran and the "Christ is Now Here" in the form of "Maitreya" (Betraya) announcements WAS the marginalization of New Age concepts along with so many New Agers realizing they had been deceived and turning course. it is not JUST political game, although it certainly has pronounced political elements.

Constance

Constance Cumbey said...

Biblical specifications, not scholarly tomes, were what initially enabled me to scope out the New Age Movement. When I saw some prophetic indicators, e.g. calls for a cashless economic system, global redistribution, "New Christ", channeled "prophets", etc., I started to suspect there was more lurking out there. It was not difficult to find. They were much more open about it then when they thought they had no "backlash" as Donald Keys expressed it in his book EARTH AT OMEGA: PASSAGE TO PLANETIZATION. Incidentally, the publisher of that book was one very critical convert out of the New Age Movement. I am going to put this up on the newer article as well.

Constance

Susanna said...

Constance and All,

Recently, Dorothy told me about a group I had never heard of before called Thee Temple ov Psychick Youth.(TOPY) ( And no I did not misspell the word "of.")

Come to find out, this group is one of the major Chaos magic organizations and its "pedigree" can be traced to black "magickians" like Aleister Crowley.

While I was checking out Teena Booth's New Age Pride site, I happened to observe how similar New Age irrationalism is to Chaos magic.

For example, at the New Age Pride site we read in an article entitled The Decline and Fall of the New Age - Part 2: Who Needs a Movement?:

A pathless land

Idealism, especially its Eastern varieties, has always been quick to tell us that a particular spiritual path really isn’t all that necessary. As Krishnamurti put it, “truth is a pathless land and you cannot approach it by any path whatsoever.”

The more we delve into the idealistic viewpoint, especially in its Zen and Advaita expressions, the more we are told that all religious and spiritual systems are merely thought-constructs that are essentially meaningless.


http://www.newagepride.org/pages/
DeclineandFallPart2.php
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Compare with the description of Chaos magic given in THE NEW ENCYCLOPEDIA OF THE OCCULT By John Michael Greer.

....Chaos magic differs from other occult traditions in its exclusive focus on magical techniques and its rejection of theory and philosophy. Beliefs according to Chaos magic proponents, are tools used to attain specific mental effects and nothing more; they have no validity or truth in themselves, merely usefulness for particular tasks...read more...

http://tinyurl.com/63uggr6
__________________________

Actually, we should not be surprised at the similarity since Chaos magic is simply the western esoteric version of its eastern
counterpart and can be traced back to the "schism" that occurred within Madame Blavatsky's Theosophical Society when Gerard Encausse ( a.k.a.Papus) left the Theosophical Society because he felt that it focused too much on eastern esotericism.

Chaos magic has its origins in a disciple of Aleister Crowley named Austin Osman Spare.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
Austin_Osman_Spare
_____________________________

Aleister Crowley had direct ties to Theodor Reuss who in turn had direct ties to Papus.

Papus was also the author of TAROT OF THE BOHEMIANS

http://www.sacred-texts.com/tarot/tob/index.htm

Tarot card reading is very much a part of the New Age Movement.

While practitioners of either the eastern or western occult traditions would probably be the last to admit it, certain elements of both "traditions" are what can be reasonably called modern forms of satanism.

Susanna said...

Constance,

The video you posted has just been removed by the user. Would that be Teena Booth?????

Sounds like you may have rattled somebody's cage.

Constance Cumbey said...

W - E - L - L!!!!!! SO MUCH FOR 'NEW AGE PRIDE.' Teena Booth removed her Youtube video. I wonder why??????

Constance

Constance Cumbey said...

Susanna,

I posted mine before reading your comment! I suspect somebody's "New Age Pride" cage was distinctly rattled.

Constance

Anonymous said...

"One shall put 10,000 to flight . . ."

Constance Cumbey said...

Here, quick before she erases this one too in the old time honored New Age game of "now you see us, now you don't" is a list of the New Age authors she links to. Most of the big ones are there: Jean Houston, David Spangler, Ervin Laszlo, Eckhart Tolle, Neale Donald Walsch, Huston Smith, Marianne Williamson, John Randolph Price, James O'Dea (he was running IONS -- Paul N. Temple's organiztion!), Corinne McLaughlin (that's a distinct Lucis Trust connection), Joanna Macy, Shirley MacLaine, Frances Moore Lappe, MATTHEW FOX (the excommunicated priest, not the actor), Riane Eisler (Dorothy has done a lot of research on Eisler), Fritjof Capra, JOSE ARGUELLES, and many more.

If she's read all of the above, she can't be that innocent of their agenda!

Constance

Constance Cumbey said...

Oops, forgot to give link for above which is:

http://www.newagepride.org/pages/Authors.php

Constance

Anonymous said...

I have made pdf copies of all pages on the "Newagepride" website in case it disappears. Let me know if you need a copy of anything. Thanks- KC

Anonymous said...

FYI- The half time of the superbowl was just "pure evil" it did exhibit some transhumanist ideals and then at one point focused on a twisted concept of love. It just left me feeling dirty and distrubed. .

Anonymous said...

Well, Constance - the good news is that this proves how widely read your blog is!!!

Ruth of Exeter, UK said...

Has anyone here seen the statuary in Oslo's Vigeland Park? It is a truly startling demonstration of Satanic power (over the unsaved).
Poor demonized David Icke has put a video of it on his website as an illustration of his thesis that we are ruled by giant space lizards. I suppose he is not that far out.

Have you seen the video, available on You Tube, by Chris White of KnowheretoRun; 'David Icke Debunked'? It is a fascinating study, by a Christian, of the seduction and possession of a New Ager, showing his contact with the 'Ascended/Descended Masters'.

Constance Cumbey said...

Teena Booth is "the user" of the Youtube site. I guess that means she was the remover. I guess that means "New Age Slinking Away."

Constance

Constance Cumbey said...

Interestingly, Teena Booth is also the author of "the Natalie Holloway Story" about the girl who disappeared in Aruba.

Constance

Constance Cumbey said...

Here's something I found on a cached website for "Programming Notes" about here background:


Who Is Teena Booth

Teena Booth is a mother of three and writer of novels (Falling From Fire), TV movies (A Little Thing Called Murder, Fab Five, Sex & Lies in Sin City, Natalee Holloway, The Wronged Man).

She was born and raised in Los Angeles, the oldest child of news reporter and actress, the very beautiful Carol McEvoy (The Towering Inferno).

Now a resident of Phoenix, Arizon, she sold her first novel, Falling From Fire, to Random House in 2002. That same year, her screenplay Showstopper -- a script she wrote to come to terms with the suicide of her very beautiful mother -- won a Chesterfield Screenwriting Fellowship. She spent a year commuting back and forth to L.A., learning the art of screenwriting. Not long afterward, she got her first assignment from Lifetime Television to adapt a true-crime book into a script, and a TV movie writing career was launched.


It appears that with the suicide of her mother that she may have had serious tragedy in her life -- as have I. Our reactions were totally different. The difference may have been our formative years.

Constance

Constance Cumbey said...

Here's a link to a piece by none other than David Spangler, himself, up on Teena Booth's "NewAgePride.org" website. For those unfamiliar with David Spangler, he is the New Ager who distinguished himself by saying that the required initiation into the New Age was a Luciferic one.

http://www.newagepride.org/pages/WitnesstoNewAgeHistory.php

Constance

Anonymous said...

Peacebringer,

I thought it was a half-time show with wretched off-key singing. I can see why the Black Eyed Peas sing with robot voices. The singing was just abyssmal. Horribly dreadful. After the slaughtering of the National Anthem by Christina Aguillera, I should have known the half-time show would've been just as offensive. People pay money to hear these guys? When will people realize that Americans do not like the National Anthem jazzed up. And if you do, sing the right words. That song about love was nauseating. Like eating a bag of valentine candy in one sitting.

Anonymous said...

Did any of you catch the report this past week about the UFO sighting over the dome of rock in Jerusalem? Here's one link: http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/01/31/5962284-jerusalem-videos-stir-ufo-buzz

Constance Cumbey said...

I just got her (TEENA BOOTH) book on Kindle. It is a real tour de force of the New Age Movement and its history. The material I just referenced by David Spangler is the foreword to her book, UNFINISHED EVOLUTION. The book says that she was baptized and tried Christianity Of course, since "reverse testimonies" are a hallmark of so many New Age activists (Marcel Vogel is one which comes to immediate mind), I take it with somewhat of a grain of salt.

Constance

History Maker said...

The first thing I noticed about Black Eyed Peas' show is the stage looked like a pulsating 6.

You can see the video here...

http://www.popeater.com/2011/02/06/black-eyed-peas-super-bowl-halftime/

~HM

History Maker said...
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JD said...

Anon 9:41,

Some are saying that this is a hoax, other alternative sites are promoting it as a actual event. I personally don't know what to make of it, however note should be taken that unlike many of these "sightings", this one has been picked up by a lot of mainstream sources.

Fox news

http://tinyurl.com/4pseyyv

CBS news

http://tinyurl.com/465fswe

Huffinton Post (big surprise)

http://tinyurl.com/4kct86p

NPR

http://tinyurl.com/4vvtf9h

ABC news

http://tinyurl.com/4sahpwk

Telegraph

http://tinyurl.com/693ltjh

and the list goes on and on. There are now at least four different videos of this "event". Alternative news sites as well as quite a few New Age sites are overly inflated with discussions on the topic. Like I said I am not quite sure what to make of it all. Real or hoax, it has certainly served to spur conversations about the phenomenon, particularly as it pertains to religious topics. Even if this is a hoax set of videos, it has certainly served a purpose.

Anonymous said...

JD,
Yes, that is exactly what I was thinking. When I first heard it over the radio I immediately thought it may be a practice run to see how the media would bite. I find it particularly interesting the location of the "sighting".

Thanks for all your work. You, Dorthy, Constance and all that comment here are so much appreciated.

Anonymous said...

I noticed that David Spangler's current work is developing and teaching a spiritual practice called Incarnational Spirituality. Incarnational Christianity is a big topic among the postmodern "Christians" such as Rick Warren, Brian Mclaren, and my former pastor. I can't help but wonder, is Spangler picking these buzzwords up form them or are they picking them up from Spangler and the like?

Constance Cumbey said...

There are strong links between "The Evangelicals" (evangelizing WHAT? to WHOM") and David Spangler. The links go back to the 1980s and the material on GoldLake will tell you much!

Paul N. Temple who was a core member of the C Street operation of Doug Coe was one major binding factor!

Constance

Constance Cumbey said...

Well-l - l - l It's as I've observed and reported for many years. These folk, THE NEW AGERS, THE NEW AGE MOVEMENT are 'ALL ONE' until somebody like me comes along and points out they are "ALL ONE," at which point they become, 'THAT'S THEM, NOT US' and 'WE ARE ALL SEPARATE.'

The New Age Movement has always been unified. It was Christian disinformation that told people they were not!

Constance

Anonymous said...

If they are all singing the same song off the same sheet music, they must be in the same chior, no matter what direction they are singing from.

EJILES said...

UFO's ?.. well, definitely Unidentifiable but probably not flying and probably not an Object. Whenever I hear about UFO's I always think about one of satan’s titles "Prince of the power of the air". I like to view UFO’s as "flashlight spots on the wall" only the source “flashlight” is in some other dimension.

Anonymous said...

Hi Ejiles, There are some well researched articles and books by Phillip and Paul Collins.

The Collins brothers are Christian researchers and have examined the MJ12 docs, which are most likely fake. The Collins brothers summarise that a new scientistic myth is being promulgated by intelligence operatives and that this is creating a new religious consciousness that is socially and politically expedient to the power elite - that it’s neo-Gnostic in character and that it is basically paving the way for the technocratic restructuring of society itself!

What this points towards is the fact that these individuals in the intelligence community are in the business of being myth makers, using UFO’s and space aliens and whatnot.
When you look at the myth that they’re building and you look closely at the disinformation that they’re placing out there with these different UFO cults, it makes you wonder if these men are not only skilled in the craft of intelligence but that they might also be students of the occult - not some kind of fringe group of any sort – but SERIOUS students of the occult – serious students of the real body of literature out there by the die-hard occultists.

Susanna said...

Anonymous 4:21 P.M. and EJILES,

I thought you might both find the following articles interesting:

THE BRITISH OCCULT SECRET SERVICE

The Untold Story


http://newdawnmagazine.com.au/
Article/The_British_Occult_Secret_
Service.html
________________________________

PARANORMAL ESPIONAGE

The Military Occult Complex


http://newdawnmagazine.com.au/
Article/Paranormal_ESPionage.html
________________________________

SAUCERS OF THE ILLUMINATI

By Jim Keith

http://tinyurl.com/49hfkcr
______________________________

Anonymous said...

Susanna,
Many thanks for proving the links to the articles.
Anon 4:21PM

Anonymous said...

..providing the links, not proving.
My typo, sorry.

Susanna said...

Anonymous 5:29 P.M.

P.S.

Here is an interesting little aside.

SUSPICIOUS DEATHS

JIM KEITH

http://suspiciousdeaths.blogspot.
com/2010/08/jim-keith.html

Jolo0.sa said...

All,

http://www.pastorbrianroberts.com/

Please look at the video: "Green Horseman Image in Egypt?" at the top of the page.

It appears to show an "otherwordly" figure and horse of pale green which no one in the crowd of Egyptians seems to notice as it/they ride through the crowd. In addition, it doesn't seem to interact with anyone in the crowd--no one seems to be hastily moving out of the way of a "man" on horseback! It doesn't seem to part the crowds or cause any consternation, at all. I don't even think that it/they actually touched any human in its course forward.

It then appears to rise, become gradually less visible, and completely disappear--defying the laws gravity and visibility as it progresses.

If this is a fake and has been debunked, I apologize to everyone. If not..., then this seems to be the physical manifestation of Revelation 6:7-8.

Anonymous said...

They are now ready to mass produce psycotronic machinery.


http://tinyurl.com/4hfh8ud

Jolo0.sa said...

Second Post regarding my last post:

It could also be deception. The LORD warned us not to be deceived. But, whether deception for its own nefarious gains or real, at HIS dispensing--rest assured that nothing happens without HIS order or consent.

JD said...

Jolo0sa,

What you are seeing in the video is reflection. This video was shot through a closed window causing light refraction, hence the green color. Watching the video I am posting you can see better that the "horsemans" movement directly associates with the cameras. You will see it begin to "ride" as the camera pans right, and "ascend" as the camera pans up. The shape is eerie, but after watching this video in full that I am posting you should be able to clearly see what I am talking about. Pay particular attention to the rest of the screen as the video goes through the slow motion replay and what I am talking about will become pretty evident.

http://tinyurl.com/4m8oyb2

All in all though, it is a odd effect and the shape that it took was pretty astounding. Thanks for posting it.

Anonymous said...

Rick Warren’s “Daniel Plan” Doctor Oz Will Lead Mass Hypnosis on TV

Christian Research Network has posted a video clip where Rick Warren’s Dr. OZ is announcing that on Monday he and a fellow doctor are going to ”hypnotize America.” Click here to watch this video.

If you haven’t kept up on what is currently happening at Saddleback Church with Rick Warren, please read the following articles where it documents that Rick Warren is using New Age promoting doctors to get his congregation healthy. Meditation is one of the techniques that these doctors advocate.

If you think that this is just about Saddleback Church and has nothing to do with you or your church or your grown children’s churches, please think twice about that. The repercussions of what is happening right now at Saddleback could be astronomical, and yet … once again, there is absolute silence (no pun intended) from Christian leaders.

http://tinyurl.com/47s7utv

Anonymous said...

Obama Taps Willow Creek’s Lynne Hybels for White House Faith Panel

Out of House Article: For informational and research purposes only. To learn more about Willow Creek, read our article: “No Repentance from Willow Creek – Only a Mystical Paradigm Shift”

Lynn Hybels, wife of Willow Creek pastor and founder Bill Hybels is a regular writer for Jim Wallis’ SoJourners magazine. Wallis is also a “spiritual” advisor to Obama.

By Lynn Sweet
Chicago-Sun Times
(courtesy Ingrid Schlueter)

WASHINGTON–President Obama tapped Willow Creek Community Church’s Lynne Hybels for a spot on the President’s Advisory Council on Faith-Based and Neighborhood Partnerships. Hybels, of Barrington, is married to Willow Creek senior pastor and founder Bill Hybels.Lyne Hybels, Appointee for Member, President’s Advisory Council on Faith-Based and Neighborhood Partnerships

Lynne Hybels is co-founder and Advocate for Global Engagement at the Willow Creek Community Church, a religious organization committed to maximizing individual life-transformation as well as encouraging effective leadership of local churches. For two decades, Mrs. Hybels has been involved in Willow Creek’s ministry partnerships in under-resourced communities in Latin America, Africa, and the Middle East. She has written inspirational books and articles focusing on global poverty, HIV/AIDS, and Israeli-Palestinian peace. Under her leadership, Willow Creek is establishing an Advisory Board on Middle East Engagement. Mrs. Hybels is currently a board member of the Africa Advisory Board at Willow Creek Community Church and recently served on the U.S. Board for World Vision. She holds a B.A. in Social Sciences from Bethel College. Click here to continue reading.

Related Information:

Sojourners Founder Jim Wallis’ Revolutionary Anti-Christian “Gospel” (and Will Christian Leaders Stand with Wallis?)

Jim Wallis Points to Lighthouse Trails – Defends Position of Sojourners

President Obama’s Christianity…

Jim Wallis and Other Emerging Leaders Tell Christians and Media – Stop Challenging Obama’s “Christian” Faith


http://tinyurl.com/4d5pnke

Anonymous said...

Consider Lambert Dolphin. He claims to be a Christian. Yet he posts stuff like this:http://ldolphin.org/uroboros.html
I seem to remember that he was involved in New Age activities at one time. And Tal Brook of Spiritual Counterfeits Project. Former devotee of Sai Baba. Something fishy there with some people.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous 9:34 P.M.

LOL

Susanna said...

P.S.Anonymous 9:34 P.M.

I meant to sign the above but was laughing too much.

Susanna

Super Bowl PreGame Show said...

Excuse me for being suspicious, but...

I want to add to the comments regarding Sunday night's Super Bowl, I am not at all detracting from the very troubling half-time presentation and those of you who have discerned the NA messages and transhumanism. Thank you for your posts.

However, does anyone feel uncomfortable about the patriotic pre-game presentation?

Don't get me wrong--I am all for Americans being reminded of the words of the Declaration of Independence and our Constitution. We often talk on this blog
about our freedoms being eroded away.

But I just wonder about that pregame show. I am reminded about the email video presentation that went around about two years ago called "Born Again American". I had Christians beaming with pride send it to me, but found out that it was from Norman Lear who was on a campaign to redefine and pervert the Declaration.

The pregame show felt more to me like being set up. Of course we are all patriotic and want our troops overseas to come home. But are we being set up for a campaign of national unity--coming together for the good of all, etc., etc....

I wish I could have received that presentation at face level, but I'm just too cynical and savvy about what's lurking under the surface. It certainly didn't help me to see Colin Powell as a presenter.

YesNaSpanishTown

Anonymous said...

Ty Susanna :)

Anonymous said...

Um...Anon. 9:34. I wouldn't take much stock in that video. Having enough experience watching Saturday Night Live, I can recognize a joke. That guy could be the new Leslie Nielson. I hope you posted it knowing it was a joke. I thought it was very funny.

Jolo0.sa said...

Thanks, JD.

The lesson in better scrutinizing on my part is gratefuly and cheerfully taken.

JD said...

Jolo,

I had the same piece of footage sent to me by someone in almost full panic over it. There are several versions out there, as this one has gone viral. The first version I saw was chopped so that it ended just short of where the reflection becomes obvious. Some will always be deceptive with things like this. The version you posted is obviously not the best quality, and as such hides (though possibly unintentionally) what is obvious in higher quality versions. Given that this came from a NBC News nightly telecast, it was easy for me to find other versions where I could scrutinize the footage better. Whenever I see something like this, I always run through as many sources for it as I can as video is just too easy to fake in this day and age. As I said, I'm glad you posted it, and happy to be of help.

Constance Cumbey said...

Hate to admit it gang, but you could keep a secret from me by broadcasting or telecasting it during the SuperBowl. Probably if it were up to me, the sports industry would go under.

Now my husband, on the other hand, is a different story! I never watch them. He never misses!

Constance

YesNaSpanishTown said...

Constance,

I'm with you! I don't watch these things either...except when we visit with my in-laws. My father-in-law loves the games so we watch with him.

My in-laws were very taken by the pre-game show. I, on the other hand, am too jaded, I guess.

It's amazing what junk people take in from the TV!

YesNaSpanishTown

Constance Cumbey said...

Interesting piece over on EU ISS site on "Europeans face up to their responsibilities" -- including but not limited to GLOBAL SECURITY.

http://www.iss.europa.eu/uploads/media/European_prepare_to_face_up_to_their_responsibilities.pdf

Constance

Constance Cumbey said...

From Teena Booth's website and also from her book UNFINISHED EVOLUTION;

Yet far more upsetting were the accusations leveled by Christian writers. An entire subgenre of books issued from Christian publishers bizarrely declared the New Age a plot of Satan to take over the world. (See 4 Myths about the New Age.) Even now, if you type "New Age" into an Internet search engine, the first five pages of results are nothing but Christian Web sites which accuse the New Age of trying to seduce good Christians away from their religion.

Query to TEENA BOOTH whom I assume to be reading this site carefully, otherwise, why would she have removed her video:

WHO DO YOU THINK THE LUCIFER OF DAVID SPANGLER AND THE THEOSOPHISTS IS? If not SATAN, WHOM?

My thinking, Teena, if New Agers such as Alice Bailey and David Spangler had the nerve to say it (we must take a LUCIFERIC INITIATION), I had the nerve to quote it and I have NO APOLOGIES for same.

YOU SHOULD RUN FROM THE NEW AGE MOVEMENT AS IF YOU HAD SEEN THE DEVIL! That is indeed what you saw disguised, albeit, as an "Angel of Light!!"

Constance

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

This sympathy for the devil crap
was full blown in The Process Church
ideology. they thought that since
you are to love your enemies, God
must love the devil and even came
to some kind of agreement or peace
with him, and they as a group were
in three segments. The luciferians
were the party crowd, the satanists
were the blood and guts crowd, and
the Jehovaites were the hairshirt
and gloom crowd.

Process came about through an odd
relationship between one of the gals
in the Profumo scandal, and the
founder who was a scientology
squirrel, that's what they call
someone who takes some of their
stuff and runs with it.

Satanist groups like the 3P and
Manson and of course Berkowitz'
circle, which included powerful
and respectable people he is still
too afraid of to name names, since
they have threatened his mother,
but he is now a Christian, had
contact with or cross fertilized
or derived from the Process Church
of the Final Judgement.
When the spirits attracted by such
stuff get there way with someone,
all hell breaks loose. At worst,
the human sacrifice and rape stuff.
At best, if the person is too much
into bliss and nonviolence and
bright happy la-la, a crippling
of their ability to resist evil, a
promulgation of such crippling
doctrines that web site is doing,
and probably channeling and
empowering the obvious evil stuff
without knowing it, setting the
stage for more.

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

This site attacks New Age stuff on the basis of its
absurdity, narcissism and dishonesty, he is not a
Christian, so might have more credibility with
some people who need to back off of this New
Age stuff.

http://mysticbourgeoisie.blogspot.com

Susanna said...

Yw anonymous 10:15 AM :)

Anonymous said...

Hoax in the Holy Land: Jerusalem UFO a Proven Fake

http://www.space.com/10789-jerusalem-ufo-hoax.html

Anonymous said...

"Strategically, the perspective of a Northern Africa in turmoil is not acceptable to Europe. Politically, economically, demographically, and militarily, Europe would be forced to face important challenges, which cannot be approached individually any longer. They will require a coherent, common response, from Europe as a whole rather than individual countries attempting to satisfy their narrow interests without concern for the detriment of others."

http://tinyurl.com/4edaad8
OR
http://www.atlantic-community.org/index/articles/view/How_to_Respond_to_the_Revolutionary_Wave

Anonymous said...

"George Soros - Proud new owner of most of West Virginia's Coal

(snip)

CHARLESTON, W.Va. (AP) — Alpha Natural Resources' proposed $7.1 billion buyout of struggling rival Massey Energy Co. would create a global power built on exporting U.S. coal for steelmakers, Alpha's chief executive said Monday."

http://tinyurl.com/6gjrqax
OR
http://parkersburgwvteaparty.ning.com/forum/topics/george-soros-proud-new-owner?xg_source=facebook

Susanna said...

To:Christine Erikson (aka Justina)

Among the modern Luciferians is Michael W. Ford, who had ties to the neo-Nazi community in the UK vis a vis Order of the Nine Angles.
Ford studied the history of occultism and magick for some time before joining various left hand path orders from 1993 to 1995.

Here are some relevant links.

MICHAEL W. FORD

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
Michael_W._Ford

_________________________

DAVID MYATT

Political scientist George Michael has written that Myatt is an "intriguing theorist" whose "Faustian quests" not only involved studying Taoism and spending time in a Buddhist and later a Christian monastery, but also allegedly involved exploring the occult, and Paganism and what Michael calls "quasi-Satanic" secret societies, while remaining a committed National Socialist. Myatt is also alleged to have been the founder of the Order of Nine Angles or to have taken it over and written the publicly-available teachings of the ONA under the pseudonym Anton Long. David Myatt has always denied such allegations about involvement with Satanism and the ONA...read more...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David
_Myatt

___________________________________

ORDER OF NINE ANGLES ( Not Angels, but Angles )

The Order of Nine Angles (ONA) is a purported secretive Satanist organization, initially formed in the United Kingdom, and which rose to public note during the 1980s and 1990s after having been mentioned in books detailing fascist Satanism. Presently, the ONA is organized around clandestine cells (which it calls "traditional nexions") and around what it calls "sinister tribes".

History

The Order of Nine Angles was originally formed in England in the 1960s, with the merger of three neopagan temples called Camlad, The Noctulians, and Temple of the Sun. Following the original leader's emigration to Australia, it has been alleged that David Myatt took over the order and began writing the now publicly-available teachings of the ONA. The ONA now has associates, and groups, in the United States, Europe, Australia, New Zealand, Canada, Russia, and Iceland.

Author Nick Ryan has asserted that Anton Long, the author of the ONA's public tracts, is a pseudonym of David Myatt, a person who was involved with the neo-Nazi movement in England. This assertion is repeated by Nicholas Goodrick-Clarke, who claims that David Myatt was the founder of the ONA and writer of most of the ONA documents, and had previously acted as bodyguard for "British Nazi Colin Jordan"...
read more...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order
_of_Nine_Angles


cont...

Susanna said...

cont...

CHRISTOS BEEST a.k.a. RICHARD MOULT

http://nineangles.wordpress.com/legends-myths-tests-and-laughter/christos-beest-and-the-ona/

also......

http://nineangles.wordpress.com/
legends-myths-tests-and
-laughter/more-about-moult
-and-the-ona/

________________________________

LEFT-HAND PATH AND RIGHT-HAND PATH

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left
-Hand_Path_and_Right-Hand_Path

________________________________

THE ORDER OF PHOSPHORUS

The Order of Phosphorus is a non-profit Luciferian Magical Order founded by Michael W. Ford. The Order, and its ecclesiastical arm "The Church of Adversarial Light", sanctifies core Luciferian traits of self-discipline, spiritual excellence and the predatory pursuit of knowledge. This initiatory magickal system fuses the complexities and rewards of traditional ceremonial magic with the efficacy of Chaos Magic. Progress is self-directed and heterodox, evidenced in the Order's diverse cross-section of Initiates including Theistic, Traditional and Atheistic Satanists, Gnostic Luciferians and a newly-emergent class of Left Hand Path pantheism.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
Luciferianism#Luciferian_groups

Dorothy said...

More on George Soros.

http://standupamericaus.com/who-is-george-soros:35062

http://www.earstohear.net/soros.html

One of the section headings:
The Shadow Party became the Shadow Government, which became the Obama
Administration.

A bit of gossip from one of the comments:

Chelsea Clinton got married at George Soros' daughter's [Andrea Colombel] estate. Soros is a longtime Clinton supporter.

Glenn Beck has provided much information on Soros, but here you have some of it in print.

Dorothy said...

I should make clear I was just adding to the information Anonymous 4:00 provided.

Dorothy said...

How much money does Soros have to throw around?
http://philanthropy.com/article/Americas-Biggest-Donors-in/126264/?sid=&utm_source=&utm_medium=en

http://tinyurl.com/6l8zs7g

Dorothy said...

Move your mouse over each picture to get information.

Constance Cumbey said...

Bill and Melinda Gates did not show up on this list. I wonder why? Is it perhaps because they gave to their own foundation?

Constance

Dorothy said...

Re Gates,
Probably the giving pattern:
http://tinyurl.com/62fgn9y
Bill Gates Donates Millions in Stock to His Foundation

February 15, 2008, 1:49 pm

Bill Gates, founder and chairman of Microsoft Corp., donated $695-million worth of his shares in the company to the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation in November, which then sold the stock, The Seattle Post-Intelligencer reports.

Mr. Gates, who co-chairs the Gates foundation with his wife, Melinda, said Thursday that he held 8.9 percent of Microsoft, or 833.1 million shares, at the end of last year. According to a regulatory filing, his current stake in the company is worth $23.7-billion.

The stock shares are most likely part of the approximately $1.2-billion in 2007 the Gateses told The Chronicle they had paid to their foundation last year. The donation was the most recent payment toward the approximately $3.3-billion that Mr. and Ms. Gates pledged to the foundation in 2004.

Biggest Gifts and Pledges Announced by Individuals in 2004
Amount
Donor
Purpose or beneficiary
$3.35-billion

Bill Gates, a co-founder of Microsoft (Seattle), and his wife

Anonymous said...

Ty Anon @ 10:42 AM :)

May it brighten the day in a time of ever increasing darkness.

Dorothy said...

A link between Solana and Soros is the European Council on Foreign Relations, founded by George Soros among others. It was founded in 2007 and has a large presence in Europe.

http://ecfr.eu/content/entry/who_supports_us/
"We would like to thank in particular our founding members and major donors:
- Open Society Foundations...."

So, where is Solana?
"ECFR's Board members are: Martti Ahtisaari (co-chair), Emma Bonino, Joschka Fischer (co-chair), Karin Forseke, Timothy Garton Ash, Ivan Krastev, Mabel van Oranje (co-chair), Andrew Puddephatt, Aleksander Smolar, Javier Solana"

Soros is listed as one of 138 Council members. Follow the money.
George Soros(Hungary/USA) – Founder and Chairman, Open Society Institute

Here is another interesting link. I'm not commenting on the politics of the site, but this thread is interesting.
http://tinyurl.com/4pbcqn3

Constance Cumbey said...

I was just perusing the "Nine Angles" information Susanna posted in her usual scholarly manner and went to the Wikipedia article. Something struck me -- don't know if there is a direct relationship or not, but if a coincidence, a disturbing one.

Ryan states in his book that Myatt lived in the 1990s on a smallholding in Shropshire with Christos Beest, who has given several interviews on behalf of the ONA[14] and performed a live recording of The Self-Immolation Rite that was included with Vol. 2 No. 3 of Fenrir.

"SELF-IMMOLATION RITE" -- The Tunisian death that triggered the Middle East "revolutions" was a self-immolation death.

Again, I don't know if there is a connection or not, but wondering about various Middle East secret societies, I can't help but start to wonder.

Constance

Constance Cumbey said...

I just looked at the Self-Immolation Rite over at ScribD. I could put a link up, but it is so incredibly evil, I choose not to. Basically the deception is that if somebody self-immolates, they are making a dark messiah offering and achieve godhood in that manner. It is PURE, RAW EVIL. I wonder how many have taken it seriously?

Constance

Constance Cumbey said...

To ANONYMOUS 3:38

I just viewed the site and found much of interest, not the least of which was THE NATO AGENDA. Most disturbingly was New Ager Lester Brown, Futurist, Club of Rome activist was featured on the video on that site on "climate change". The big thing was the "emergency" about population growth.

Constance

Susanna said...

Constance,

Additionally, Myatt reportedly became a Muslim!

David Myatt, (born 1950) - also known as David Wulstan Myatt[1] and formerly known as Abdul-Aziz ibn Myatt - is the founder of The Numinous Way, a former British Muslim, and a former neo-nazi.

According to Professor Robert S. Wistrich, Myatt, when a Muslim, was a staunch advocate of "Jihad, suicide missions and killing Jews..." and also "an ardent defender of bin Laden". One of Myatt’s writings justifying suicide attacks was, for several years, on the Izz ad-Din al-Qassam Brigades (the military wing) section of the Hamas website.

According to Myatt himself, in the autumn of 2010 he publicly "move[d] away from the Way of Al-Islam and back to my own weltanschauung which I have termed both The Numinous Way and The Philosophy of The Numen."

Before his conversion to Islam in 1998, Myatt was the first leader of the British National Socialist Movement (NSM), and was identified by the British newspaper, The Observer, as the "ideological heavyweight" behind Combat 18. Following his conversion to Islam, Myatt dissociated himself from nationalism and racialism, and has spoken openly about his contempt for racism, and wrote that the only distinction that mattered was that between Muslims (Mumin) and the Unbelievers (Kuffar).
Additionally, and subsequently following his conversion, he also became an advocate of Islamic martyrdom operations (Shaheed)expressed support for Osama bin Laden, the Taliban, referred to the Holocaust as a "hoax", and supported the killing of 'civilians' or non-combatants. An April 2005 NATO workshop heard that Myatt had called on "all enemies of the Zionists to embrace the Jihad" against Jews and the United States. Political scientist George Michael writes that Myatt has "arguably done more than any other theorist to develop a synthesis of the extreme right and Islam."
...read entire article...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David
_Myatt

Susanna said...

P.S.

Constance,

I posted some other links earlier as a continuation of my first post having to do with Michael Ford and David Myatt, but they disappeared.

Do you think they might be in your spam file?

Dorothy said...

Susanna, I asked the same question and was told nothing was there. Better luck. Who knows what eats posts up!

Anonymous said...

NATO appears to be out of the M.E. picture, per NATO's chief [which leaves one to ponder the possibility of involvement by the 10-nation Western European Union (WEU)].

***

"'I don't have illusions about NATO 's role about providing security in the region,' he told a conference on security in Herzliya, north of Tel Aviv. 'NATO cannot solve all the problems and it never intended to do so.' "

OR
http://www.monstersandcritics.com/news/middleeast/news/article_1618182.php/NATO-chief-Vital-for-Egypt-to-remain-moderate-force-in-region

Fwiw.

Anonymous said...

Apologies; the tiny url for the NATO article is as follows:

http://tinyurl.com/4vf3hao

Susanna said...

Dorothy,

The existence of a European Council on Foreign Relations co-founded by George Soros is especially interesting in light of all of Soros' shady financial dealings that have made him persona non grata in several European countries - including France where Soros has the equivalent of a felony conviction hanging over his head for insider trading.

Susanna said...

Dorothy,

Do you think something like this is part of what Soros, Solana, et al have in mind. It is the headline on the Drudge Report.


NYSE Euronext and Deutsche Börse in Merger Talks
February 9, 2011


http://dealbook.nytimes.com
/2011/02/09/nyse-euronext-and
-deutsche-borse-in-merger-talks
/?hp

Anonymous said...

Global Stock Exchanges Are Headed for Major Consolidation

COMPANIES, NEW YORK STOCK EXCHANGE, NYSE, EURONEXT, DEUTSCHE BOERSE, LONDON STOCK EXCHANGE, LSE, TORONTO STOCK EXCHANGE, TMX
CNBC staff and wire reports

09 Feb 2011 | 02:07 PM ET

Germany's Deutsche Boerse is in advanced talks to buy NYSE Euronext, and the London Stock Exchange has agreed to buy Canadian stock market operator TMX, as exchanges globally look for ways to boost their markets and cut costs.

Together, Deutsche Boerse and NYSE Euronext would dominate exchange trading in continental Europe. The companies said they could cut costs by 300 million euros ($408.7 million) a year.

The combined group would have headquarters in New York and Frankfurt, with Deutsche Boerse shareholders holding about 60 percent of the combined company and NYSE shareholders holding the rest. The companies disclosed their talks on Wednesday.

For more...
http://www.cnbc.com/id/41491498

Constance Cumbey said...

Remembering the Chrysler/Daimler "merger" which was in reality a TAKEOVER where the percentages as I recall them were VERY CLOSE to what is projected here, I get COLD CHILLS. Just about anybody from the Detroit area who suffered through some years of Chrysler devastation could identify.

The New York Stock Exchange "merging" with the German one and the German one having 60% of the stock . . ..


T E R R I F Y I N G!!!!!

Constance Cumbey said...

Susanna,

I just went and checked my spam section of the comments which was empty. Yesterday or the day before -- forgot which -- I did find a couple that should have been up and I marked "not spam." One may have been yours. It may be on an earlier story -- you might check the back ones to see where it was applied. I have deleted nothing except for the people using this to link to sites selling "gold," etc.

Constance

Dorothy said...

Another of my posts that was up for a while disappeared. Oh well.

On another note, on the top page right now it says there are 92 comments, but when one get to the thread with the comments, it appears there are only 91 comments. I've notice this before, an inconsistency between the two counts.

Susanna, not being an investor I've never studied how the markets work, so without any analysis the only thing I could come up with is a gut reaction to the merge. I was only trying to point out how the top level networks. Solana and Soros I now know work together in two groups. There are probably more.

Don't expect too much from an old,retired, non-investing individual in the Midwest. I have no friends in high places who can clue me in. I gather together information as I can find it. You probably are in a better position to answer your own question.

My gut reaction is I don't like to see power in fewer and fewer hands. Constance's reaction is probably on target.

Anonymous said...

"New Drilling Method Opens Vast U.S. Oil Fields
Published February 10, 2011
Associated Press


A new drilling technique is opening up vast fields of previously out-of-reach oil in the western United States, helping reverse a two-decade decline in domestic production of crude..."

http://tinyurl.com/46lfsdh
OR
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/02/10/new-drilling-method-opens-vast-oil-fields/#

Susanna said...

Craig,

I am replying to you here because it is relevant to certain other posts on this thread and so that it won't get lost.

Re: Your query....

This whole thing brings up an issue: what about demons -- are individuals demonically possessed/oppressed in our present time? It would seem likely that if individuals were during Jesus' earthly ministry, then some would be today as well.....

......Given the spirits behind kundalini, I think it probable that individuals could become demon possessed/oppressed as a result of coming into contact. Which then raises the question of proper deliverance for those individuals affected.

I have absolutely NO experience in this area. Comments?


You are right.

While I am speaking as a Roman Catholic Christian, I can say that as a Catholic Christian I have been taught that it is indeed possible - albeit rare - for a person to be demonically possessed in our own time - just as certain people were possessed during the time when Christ lived on earth.

I would not presume to speak for Protestants, but I can give you some information on what Catholics believe so that you can compare and judge for yourself.

I will say that as a Catholic I am taught that exorcisms by Protestant ministers can be as effective as those performed by Catholic priests because like Catholic exorcisms, they are done in the name of Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.

If an exorcist presumes to expel demons in his own name or by any other name, he risks being savaged by the demon......as described in the Scriptures.

For reasons we do not fully understand, not all exorcisms are successful - be they done by Catholic priests or Protestant ministers. But my purpose here is not to get into that subject, but rather to show you documentary evidence that demonic possession is a reality in our own time.

People who have truck with the occult - especially those forms of the occult directly and knowingly involving illicit communication with spirit entities are basically inviting the encroachments of evil spirits into their lives and persons.

Following physical and psycholigical tests on a purported victim of demonic possession, there are certain signs that a Catholic exorcist looks for in order to discern whether or not he is dealing with mental illness or an actual case of demonic possession. However, many times the possessing demon(s) will hide behind mental illness in a person precisely in order to avoid exorcism which makes them suffer unspeakably in ther pride.

Among the more renowned Catholic exorcists is Father Jose Antonio Fortea.

JOSE ANTONIO FORTEA

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jos%
C3%A9_Antonio_Fortea
_____________________________

The following is the story of an actual modern day case of demonic possession.

CASE CLOSED: PSYCHIATRIST DOCUMENTS A POSSESSION INVOLVING FORMER SATANIST

http://www.spiritdaily.org/demonfr
equency.htm
__________________________________


PSYCHIATRIST:"DEMONIC POSSESSION IS REAL"

http://www.arcamax.com/religiousnews/s-317017-345848
____________________________

AMONG THE MANY COUNTERFEITS
A Case of Demonic Possession


By Richard E. Gallagher

http://uiforum.uaeforum.org/show
thread.php?10296-A-case-of-demonic
-possession

Susanna said...

Constance,

I did not think that you had deleted anything. You would have had no reason to do so.

I simply wanted to give you a heads up that part of my post had disappeared since I am aware that you have been having trouble with your blog.

Unfortunately, I didn't save what I posted, so there was no way I could repost. That is why I asked if it might have somehow been diverted to your spam folder.

smallfarm said...

Any time you allow yourself to be tempted into sin; you are subjecteding yourself to the captivity of the devil. Thusly, demonic possesion is FAR MORE prevalent today that in the meridian of time.

Anonymous said...

subjecting even =p

Anonymous said...

Rick Warren introduces "The Devil Plan"

Into a cauldron of green tea add in 1 eye of a knut, 4 lizard’s tails, 3 dragon incisors, 4 forked tongues, 7 pages from the Message Bible, 1 page from the KJV Bible, then stir the pot while chanting “I am God…I am God…I am God.” While the brew simmers get in a crossed-legged yoga position…meditate …go deep…deeper still…until you’re in a trance, then allow the kundalini energy coiled like a serpent at the base of the spine to run through your body…until an ecstatic experience erupts whereby you will shift between ecstasy and horror……viola, enlightenment!

http://tinyurl.com/4s6clju

Craig said...

Susanna,

Thanks for responding to my comment from the previous thread which apparently went directly to the spam filter and subsequently was released by Constance.

I was aware the RCC had done exorcisms (there are apparently a relative handful of Protestant exorcisms as well); but, I was more curious of anyone who had firsthand or immediate secondhand knowledge.

What brought this about was my somewhat recent post titled "Misplaced Trust, part I" in which I quote AAB/Lucis Trust quite extensively. Entering "higher states of consciousness" is another way of saying progressive "overshadowing" resulting eventually in "soul-controlled men" which are all euphemisms for advancing stages of demon possession. It only takes a superficial reading to reach that analysis. It's the endgoal according to the Bailey books. Given that, I posit that there must be if not many today certainly more than a tiny fraction who are in various stages of possession. I consider II Thessalonians 2:9-12 as further potential evidence as those who refuse to love the Truth will be given a "strong delusion" by God Himself!

From part II of the "Misplaced Trust" article is this quote from a pro-Kundalini practitioner:

“Kundalini rising is sometimes a violent experience, radically changing one’s subtle energy field (making it much less subtle!) and consciousness and perception of energy. The experience can be (and often is in the West) mistaken for insanity (usually acute schizophrenia) or emotional or physical breakdown on a fairly large scale.”

Quote from here:
http://www.dharma-haven.org/oas/kundheal.htm

Is it not possible or even probable that the individuals in the above quote who are deemed insane in the West are, in actuality, possessed?

There are fairly widespread reports of goings-on in hyper-charismatic churches which go beyond the natural. One example are individuals who bend over backwards at an extreme and unnatural angle. I know someone personally who told me her cue to get out of the hyper-charismatic church she was attending was when an individual rolled UP the stairs!

As you pointed out, one must be careful if attempting exorcisms as the Sons of Sceva found out (Acts 19:13-16). However, Jesus Himself said in Matthew 7:22 that some false prophets/wolves will claim to have driven out demons in His name which leads me to believe in the possibility there will be true Christians who will actually do this legitimately.

OTOH, I don't think it's healthy to look for a demon around every corner but to essentially deny their existence as the West seems to do does not seem right either.

On two separate occasions my ex-wife and I came across the presence of evil spirits. One time was in viewing the outside of a vacant house that was for sale. I noticed it first but didn't say anything to see if it was just me when suddenly my then wife said "Do you feel that?" It was as if the air was being sucked out of our lungs. A heaviness. For me, I would describe it as running to the point of being out of breath in the cold when not accustomed to it resulting in a 'burning' sensation of the lungs. The 2nd time was in the warehouse of an antique shop.

Quite eerie.

Anonymous said...

More Maitreya speculation: Rick Warren = Maitreya????!!!??

Not sure what to make of these articles - that whole Maitreya thing is pretty weird, but these articles, tho speculative, do point out some creepy correlations. See what you think:

Maitreya - Hidden in Plain Sight Parts 1&2

http://tinyurl.com/5rd7kma

http://tinyurl.com/6btyoan

Rosa

Susanna said...

Craig,

The closest I have ever come to having immediate second hand knowledge of something demonic has to do with a woman who once told me that she was involved with an Edgar Cayce group.

Not long after, her husband told my husband that she was seeing spirits "coming up out of the floor" and that these spirits "spoke to her."

Time went by in which my husband and I didn't see or hear from them....until one day when my husband ran into this woman's husband and he told my husband about his wife's involvement with this Edgar Cayce group and "the spirits" who finally told his wife to leave him. After she left him she entered into a lesbian relationship with another woman.

I think the husband died fairly young. We don't know what ultimately became of the woman.

I also knew a woman whose husband was involved with the occultism that was popularized by the bogus "anthropologist" Carlos Castaneda. This form of occultism involved the use of the peyote mushroom which contained the hallucinogenic drug mescalin....used to achieve the altered state of consciousness required to interact with the spiritual entities that resided in the "separate reality" described by Castaneda in his books.

According to Castaneda, the drug was only necessary at the beginning. After a while, a person could achieve the altered states of consciousness without having to use drugs.

Carlos Castaneda was one of the darlings of the New Age Movement who advocated suicide as a means of progressing to higher spiritual levels. After my friend's husband finished reading the last of Castaneda's books, he committed suicide.

Another woman I knew who was into the occultism of Castaneda came close to committing suicide......which goes to show that as far as the demons are concerned, possession is not the only game in town.

We must bear in mind that where there IS the danger of demonic possession, the New Age Movement is NOT going to call it by its right name.

Anonymous said...

This article was on the front page of the Telegraph today:

International Monetary Fund director Dominique Strauss-Kahn calls for new world currency

"Russian President Dmitry Medvedev last month said the currencies of Brazil, Russia, India and China should be included in the SDR valuation basket. The same month, Sarkozy said that the yuan should be included, and US President Barack Obama’s administration said it supports such a transition “over time”."

"Strauss-Kahn's views come a week before finance ministers from the Group of 20 developed and developing nations meet in Paris to discuss proposals by French president Nicolas Sarkozy for changes to global economic governance."

Tiny URL:
http://tinyurl.com/4t3b9ma

Constance Cumbey said...

Anonymous 10:41

WOW! And just a week before the G-20 meeting! The
"fitting room" for the beast "trampling the whole world"??

This is OMINOUS and probably COMING FAST!

Thank you for the 'heads up'!

Constance

Susanna said...

Anonymous 10:41

IMHO, the merger between the New York Stock Exchange and Deutsche Boerse ( which runs the Frankfurt Stock Exchange ) might - if approved by regulators in the U.S. and Germany - turn out be one more factor that helps to tip the scales in favor of the establishment of a one world currency.

Susanna said...

Anonymous 10:41

IMHO, the merger between the New York Stock Exchange and Deutsche Boerse ( which runs the Frankfurt Stock Exchange ) might - if approved by regulators in the U.S. and Germany - turn out be one more factor that helps to tip the scales in favor of the establishment of a one world currency.

Anonymous said...

I agree with you smallfarm! Demon possession is not a "rare" occurance as some would have you believe, on the contrary.

This kind of thinking just demonstrates the commentary on the church of Jesus Christ.

"My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge..." Hsa 4:6

Today, just slap the word "disease" after the problem and everything is acceptable.

"Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour: Whom resist stedfast in the faith"
1 Peter 5:8-9

ps I am not advocating that everything is a devil. But there is more demons lodging in people's flesh than we'd like to think.

Anonymous said...

All of what you are recording here is so true. I see myself as I was when younger in Teena. Yes, the deception is there! Keep up the good work. People probably have to be "broken" to accept that the world is satanically ruled, and to put their faith in our God.

Mariel

Constance Cumbey said...

Dear Mariel:

So good to hear from you -- it is because of those of you who had the courage to "come out of her" that I have taken courage to speak out on this necessary topic.

Constance

Anonymous said...

I agree with you smallfarm! Demon possession is not a "rare" occurance as some would have you believe, on the contrary.

This kind of thinking just demonstrates the commentary on the church of Jesus Christ.

"My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge..." Hsa 4:6

Today, just slap the word "disease" after the problem and everything is acceptable.

"Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour: Whom resist stedfast in the faith"
1 Peter 5:8-9

ps I am not advocating that everything is a devil. But there is more demons lodging in people's flesh than we'd like to think. chss.uonbi.ac.ke

Munyole said...

Well, Socrates and philosophers have different ways of interpreting things or phenomenon, though some may differ but what remains is coming up with new ideas or knowledge

Unknown said...

Well as they say 'knowledge is power'
cees.uonbi.ac.ke

Psych Nairo said...

True true! Keep up the good work!

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