Tuesday, October 27, 2009

CHURCH OF SWEDEN SAYS 'YES' TO GAY MARRIAGE


"They will call 'evil' good and good 'evil.'" It's disturbing enough when it happens elsewhere in our society, e.g. the State of Massachusetts, Vermont legalizing same sex marriage. Also, our USA President who campaigned saying he believed marriage should be between opposite sexes was recently quoted as saying same sex marriage deserved the same legitimacy and respect as opposite sex unions.

When it happens in a purportedly Christian church, the disturbing factor increases geometrically.

Such is the case with the Synod of the Lutheran Church of Sweden. Per The Local: Sweden's News in English it has now said "YES TO GAY MARRIAGE." You may read the whole sorry story by clicking here.

What's next? Loss of tax exempt status to USA and Canadian churches that refuse to hold same sex nuptials?

There's an old hymn: "How long Lord Jesus, how long, how long -- Till we sing the glad song, hallelujah, Christ returneth, hallelujah, amen."

Lately, it's been "a thrill a day" on apparent prophetic fulfillment. Judge Judy said the "old generation would have to die out" for same sex marriage to gain public approval to the extent she already expressed. If this keeps up, many of us will probably be indeed dead -- from heart attacks generated by the increasing shocks to sensibilities and mores that have existed for thousands of years.

May the Lord help us all!

I will be doing my internet radio program at 8 p.m. Eastern time, about 1 1/4 hours from now. Tune in and STAY TUNED!

CONSTANCE

25 comments:

Anonymous said...

Dear JD I did not mean to ignore your comments, please see my response to you on the previous comments page. God bless you and all here.

Rob in London.

Anonymous said...

The Methodist Church and C of E in the Uk also promotes gay marriage/ civil partnerships and 'blesses' them.

Do the majority of people in these congregations not believe their Bibles?

The true Church is fast becoming a body of fewer and fewer voices in a spiritual wilderness which is expanding at a ferocious pace.

God bless and protect everyone here,

Rob in London.

Anonymous said...

This is the OFFICIAL SITE of the BNEI NOAH, which the SANHEDRIN has put in charge as the COUNCIL of the Noahide Court!

This is what they say about the death penalty. Please check their other links. I cannot be called an anti-semite, which I am not, for showing direct prima facae evidence.

http://7for70.net/en/?topic=sevenlaws&id=10

or

http://tinyurl.com/yh3dpfq

Please also see their idolatary section

http://7for70.net/en/?topic=sevenlaws&id=3

or

http://tinyurl.com/yfxnp7t

This section DOES say Christianity is idolatry, and the penalty is death by beheading (see both links in conjunction with one another.)

It states also that such a death penalty must not be carried out UNTIL the 3rd Temple has been built. It also states that:

"Noah Descendant who infringed upon No Idolatry Law - he is to be sentenced to the death penalty. But this is in the case he committed a worship the way typical for this idol. And each worship Beit-Din (court - Biblical language translation) of Israel mortifies for - Noah Descendant is to be sentenced to the death penalty for that. And each worship Beit Din of Israel doesn't mortify for - Noah Descendant is not to be sentenced to the death penalty for that. However, despite he's not put to death for that - it's all prohibited. And it's allowed neither to set up Matzeva (the building for holding idolatry rites), nor to plant Ashera (special kind of tree planted by idolaters next to their temples), nor to make statuettes and the like for beauty.

"One should understand that all in details. Well, we already spoke No Idolatry includes any actions meaning to worship anything except G-d. However not every worship is punished with death. And here is how the general rule is going to look like.

Four ways of worship are punished with death despite what specifically was worshipped. They are prostrating oneself face downwards, bringing sacrifices, bringing incense up in smoke and libation. Each one of those four ways of worship may be done only in the honour of G-d and only in Jerusalem Temple. Anyone who does it in honour of idol - definitely brings death sentence upon himself."

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Anonymous said...

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"All other ways of worship are punished with death only in case they correspond to the way of worship specifically typical for the given idol. That is, for example, functioning of physical needs in front of Peor, or throwing stone into Merculis - those actions were the way of service typical for the given idols in ancient times. And despite they are not practised nowadays - the principle remained the same, only idols and ways of worship to them changed.

If human believes in whatever or whoever except G-d and tells it: "You are my god" or any different phrase of such kind - he immediately brings death sentence upon himself.

And, finally, there is a list of actions strictly prohibited but not punished with death - to embrace idol, to kiss idol, to sweep in front of him, to wash floor in front of him, to wash idol, to pave idol, to dress idol, to put shoes on idol and any other way of expressing one's esteem to idol, as it's explained in Talmud (Babylonian Talmud, Tractate Sanhedrin 60b). However, if any of those actions is the way of worship typical for the given idol and was done exactly with the purpose of service - the criminal is to be sentenced to the death penalty.

What does it all mean in practice? Christians are idolaters as far as their cult includes the worship to the regular human, who was executed by the sentence of the Sages' court, but whom Christians consider to recognize and openly call their god. The way of worship typical for this idol is "to cross".

And RAMBAM writes both about this cult and about Islam ("Mishne Tora" Religious Code, Laws of Kings and Their Wars 11:4):

"And about Jesus from Nazareth who got a false idea to consider himself Mashiach (Messiah - Biblical language translation) and was executed by the sentence of court - prophet Daniel prophesied about him as it's written (Daniel 11:14): And parvenus from your people will exalt themselves to bring about the vision but they will fail - and can there be a failure bigger than that? Coz all prophets spoke of Mashiach who rescues Jewish people, and saves them, and brings back to their land those scattered from them, and strengthens them in observing the commandments. But that one became a cause of death of Jews from sword, and of exile of those remained at their land yet, and of their humiliation. He substituted Tora and misled the majority of humanity the way they started worshipping him instead of Creator. But we're not able to comprehend the intents of Creator, coz our ways are not His ways and our thoughts are not His thoughts. And this whole story with Jesus from Nazareth and with that Ishmaelite (Muhammad - Author's note) who came after him - it all happened only for the sake of clearing the way for real Mashiach and to prepare the entire world for serving G-d all together as it's written (Tzefaniah 3:9): For then I will convert the peoples to a pure language that all of them call in the name of the L-rd, to worship Him of one accord. How exactly? The whole world is already filled with knowledge about the final redemption, the words of Tora and commandments spreaded and this knowledge reached the distant islands and became known to lots of peoples rude by heart. And they discuss those things and reason about Tora's Laws: some suppose those Laws were really given from the Heavens but they are not valid nowadays coz they were given not for all times; some suppose there is a hidden sense in them and one shouldn't understand them literally and that "Messiah" already came and explained how they should be understood. But when real Mashiach comes, and succeeds, and rises above, and exalts, they all will immediately repent and understand they inherited false from their fathers, and their prophets and ancestors misled them."

This is really happening folks, please research it and check my links. It is out of love not hatred that I have been been so persistent here.

God bless,

Rob in London.

Anonymous said...

This is a great site, it is run by Christians who have spent a long time in investigative journalism in Israel to follow prophetic events, these guys love the Jewish people and Israel.

They speak up against antisemitism, show prophetic events coming to pass, such as the first sacrifice of a lamb on Passover last year since AD70 (in preparation for the sacrifies to be carried out when the 3rd Temple is built). They also have articles exposing the Masonic NWO drive and the Noahide Laws.

http://livingjourney.wordpress.com/category/the-sanhedrin/

or

http://tinyurl.com/yz3zk62


I'll try and find something on Solana and this, or yet another World leader. Until then, God willing, I'll post no more at this moment on the matter.

God Bless,

Rob in London.

DavidinBattleCreek said...

I must add that the United Methodist Church does not endorse gay marriage, at least that is our official position. However, I don't know how long this position will hold. We also don't allow gay clergy. I just hope we don't eventually go down that road.

Anonymous said...

Dear David,

I wanted to join the Methodist Church here in England, and this was the only issue stopping me.

I was brought up as a Roman Catholic, with a Roman Catholic mother and a Protestant (C of E)father.

I left Roman Catholicism because I didn't personally entirely agree with its doctrine. I do not consider myself a protestant, just a Christian. I say this because, although some positive practices came out of the reformation, I reject Calvinism and Strict Lutherism. A Calvinist might call me an Armenian but he or she would be wrong. Unlike the Calvinist, I believe man has been given free-will by God, unlike the Armenian, I do not believe that man's will can 'frustrate' God's will.

I believe salvation is conditional, in that we must abide in Christ and He will abide in us, if we turn away and refuse to repent we lose our salvation.

Like many of the popes, both Calvin and Luther were unrepentant murderers. Luther killed many Jewish people and he claimed the General Epistle of James was as a book of straw.

Having said all this, I do believe there are real and saved Christians in the Roman Catholic Church, the Presbytarian Calvinist church and in the Lutheran church, as well as of course the Methodist and C of E churches.

These days it's so hard to find a congregation. I cannot personally stay in a church where I disagree with its extra-biblical teachings.

Still, I still think these churches are far safer, spiritually, to be in than all of this new wave stuff... i.e. Benny Hinn, Copeland, etc.

Please see: " The Derby Resolutions on Human Sexuality. The Revd Dr Nigel T Collinson"

www.methodist.org.uk/.../ne_derbyresolutionsmethrec_130207.pdf -

and

http://tinyurl.com/yzms7l3


It states, 'a person shall not be debarred on the grounds of sexual orientation in itself'.

Does this mean persons who are struggling to overcome this and do not practice it, or does it mean one can remain 'comfortable' in their 'sexual orientation' and may that then allow for same sex relationships engaging or not in this context, living together as man and wife?'

British Methodists reject blessing of same-sex relationships,

http://tinyurl.com/yk89bkv

I beleive you are right on this issue, but as much of a democrat as I am, it begs the question as to why there was a vote upon it in the first place when it is clearly forbidden in the Holy Scriptures.

"That decision followed a lengthy and passionate debate on the floor of the denomination’s annual conference which met June 23-29 in Edinburgh, Scotland.

The ruling disappoints those who hoped the church would allow liturgical recognition of same-sex civil partnerships, legal in Britain since December 2004. Civil partnerships give many of the rights and privileges enjoyed by married couples - including survivor benefits, pension rights and paternal responsibility for children - to same-sex partners.

The ruling also puts British Methodist pastors in a similar position to United Methodist clergy in places such as Massachusetts, California, Vermont, New Jersey and Hawaii where the state, in varying degrees, officially recognizes same-sex relationships but the church does not."

P.S., I have also replied to your previous post, re: Sarkozy, on the previous comments page.

God bless,


Rob in London.

Constance Cumbey said...

Dear Rob,

In my years of life, this much I suspect:

THERE ARE NO PERFECT CHURCHES BECAUSE THERE ARE NO PERFECT PEOPLE.

THE PROFILE FOR WHO GETS TAKEN IN BY THE ANTICHRIST IS "the love of the truth. . ." (2ND Thessalonians, chapter 2)

Constance
Constance

Anonymous said...

In light of what I had hastily written about the Methodist Church, at 8:11 pm, I was wrong in what I said about the Methodist Church blessing gay partnerships. I knew about the Derby Resolutions, but had not followed up to see how the vote went.

I normally research before I speak, I admit my haste here. sorry to all Methodists out there. I still stand by the post I made at 10:37 PM though.

Thanks for picking me up on that David in Battle Creek.

God bless you mate,

Rob in London.

Anonymous said...

I believe you are right Constance.

It is just difficult to find a church in the UK these days. So many of the churches here are inundated with Calvinism. I cannot abide by 5 pointer Calvinism, I think it lacks understanding of the immensity of God's love for mankind.

I have just left a Calvinist church, actually, I was near enough told to leave by one of the preachers during a chat that turned only a little heated in a cafe, because I could not accept that God would pre-ordain people to hell.

For God so loved the World that he gave His only Son that whosoever believeth in him would not perish but have everlasting life.

There are so so many prosperity pimps over here now as well. You know, pray for a new car and house and whilst you're at it, throw all your money at the pastor, who'll somehow ensure your wish comes true... Benny Hinn types.

Of all the churches I've considered, the Methodist one has the greatest appeal. It was only the issue that they would vote on whether to accept something which is clearly Biblically forbidden that put me off. At the moment, however, it looks as though they are the best out there, in terms of my personal Christian convictions. I shall go there this Sunday.

Thank you, and thank you for not misunderstanding my reasons for posting all that I had about the Noahide laws earlier.

I found it painful to be called anti-semitic, I earnestly assure you I am not, thank you for not prejudging me here. It was very difficult to gather courage to write about the subject, but I believe there is a real danger and it is my Christian duty to warn the Church.

God bless you,

Rob in London.

Craig said...

Rob in London:

You mentioned a few threads back about the length of time of the sacrifices within the 3rd Temple prior to the "breaking" of the 70th week covenant. You are correct as Daniel does not specify a length of time the sacrifices will be instituted for prior to the "end" of "sacrifices and offerings." (see Dan 8:13; 9:27; 11:30-31). Also, there's nothing that says specifically the antichrist will break the covenant -- just that he will put an end to "sacrifice and offering."

Anonymous said...

Can't stop, can you Rob. I challenged your bad research several posts down. You might want to read it. As I said, there is nothing to indicate that the Bnei Noah website was put up by Jews rather than Jew haters. Anyone can get a website name if it's not already taken. You are really working hard to get false ideas into the minds of readers here.

You really do depend on a lot of flattery of Christians to get your message across. It's a tactic that works no matter the target audience, and you know that. However, we who read here are long past the time when we assume that everyone who posts something is a truly truthful and moral person.

If you don't want to be called antisemitic, work very hard to keep the commandment about bearing false witness against your neighbor. It seems to me that you're weak on that one.

Dorothy

SV said...

Dear Constance,
Trying to catch up from having an extremely busy schedule the last several days, and I'm not entirely sure what led up to your quoting
2 Thessalonians 2:9,10, but the PROTECTION from believing the signs and lying wonders of the lawless one is: THE LOVE OF THE TRUTH that they MIGHT BE SAVED. Those that do not have a love of the truth, God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie.
Just needed to expound on these passages so that others will not be misled.

By His Grace,
-SV

SV said...

Dear Rob in London,
I haven't had the chance yet to read all of your posts, but so far, you LOST me at "the Methodist Church"...
I challenge your motive regarding the statement: "It is out of love not hatred that I have been been so persistent here", considering that the Methodist Church is one of the leading promoters of "Replacement Theology". They literally believe that God was finished with Israel in 70 A.D. with the destuction of the Temple. This is a false teaching at it's most heinous. Any learned Bible scholar understands this.
Never forget: "to the Jew first and also to the Greek..."
Romans 1:16
Looks like you have ALOT more homework to do, friend.

By His Grace,
-SV

Anonymous said...

SV (2:08 AM), I admitted I had spoken hastily about the Methodist Church, there was a debate in the
British Methodist church, with a vote, on whether Gay 'civil partners' should be accepted and seen as ok in the British Methodist church. I, after my initial comment (at 8:11 PM here) updated my information regarding the outcome of the said vote.

In reply to your challenge, do not now mingle what I have said about the Methodist church with my statement of persistence. Look at the information on the sites I have linked and what I myself have said.

I have clearly made a distinction between a Kabbalist Masonic cult which holds much sway in Israel, and the vast majority of Jews and Israeli Jews whom are innocent but quite powerless in this matter.

I do not believe in replacement theology. I did not know this was part of Methodist doctrine, I have never before been in a Methodist church in my life. I believe salvation was extended to the Gentles, not taken from the Jews and given to the Gentiles only. I do, however, believe salvation is only through Jesus Christ, I also believe that the Talmud is false teaching, though I am not against Jewish people. I believe the Tanakh contains the only true Jewish HOLY Scriptures. I am also utterly against the Kabbalah, as I am against the Egyptian book of the Dead, it is witchcraft, its idea of the 'tree of life' diagram is the same as that of Kundalini practice.

Have you heard of Karaite Judaism which recognizes the Tanakh as the single religious authority of the Jewish people?

I, having said this, however, am not against Jewish people. Before you question my intentions, look at the material I have posted in its entirety. You misquote Scripture, the Bible states, ye are of one blood, God is no respecter of persons, there is no difference between Greek nor Jew for those in Christ Jesus. SALVATION IS ONLY FOUND IN JESUS CHRIST.

I shall address your point on Romans 1:16 in my next comment below.

Rob in London.

Anonymous said...

'Never forget: "to the Jew first and also to the Greek..."
Romans 1:16
Looks like you have ALOT more homework to do, friend.

By His Grace,
-SV (at 2:08 AM)'

This article is taken from www.thevine.co.nz

'God is no Respecter of Persons'


http://tinyurl.com/yjusdbu



'When the first Gentile was converted to Christianity, the apostle Peter perceived that “God shows no partiality. But in every nation whoever fears Him and works righteousness is accepted by Him” (Acts 10:34-35). Before the church was established and Gentiles began to be converted to Christ, many Jews supposed that God favored them over all other ethnic groups; some had the false notion that merely being Jewish was a sure sign that one was saved (Matthew 3:9; Luke 3:8; Luke 7:30).He does not favor—and never has favored—one person or group of people over others.
When the religious barrier between Jews and Gentiles was broken down, Peter more fully understood one important aspect of God’s character: He does not favor—and never has favored—one person or group of people over others. Whether or not the Israelites always understood it, anyone who obeys God’s commands can be justified in His sight. Consider a sampling of the passages that emphasize God’s fairness toward all humans:

2 Chronicles 19:7: “Now therefore, let the fear of the Lord be upon you; take care and do it, for there is no iniquity with the Lord our God, no partiality, nor taking of bribes.”

Job 34:19: “Yet He is not partial to princes, nor does He regard the rich more than the poor; for they are all the work of His hands.”

Romans 2:11-12: “But glory, honor, and peace to everyone who works what is good, to the Jew first and also to the Greek. For there is no partiality with God.”

Galatians 5:6: “For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision or uncircumcision avails anything, but faith working through love.”

1 Peter 1:17: “And if you call on the Father, who without partiality judges according to each one’s work, conduct yourselves throughout the time of your stay here in fear.”

Exactly what does it mean that God is impartial? God offers salvation to every man, no matter what external circumstances, such as socioeconomic status or nationality, might apply to him. God does not offer salvation only to the Jew, just because he is a Jew, or only to the Gentile because he is a Gentile. The Greek word translated “respecter of persons” in the King James Version of Acts 10:34 (“God is no respecter of persons”) is prosopoleptes, a word that refers to a judge who looks at a man’s face instead of at the facts of the case, and makes a decision based on whether or not he likes the man (Lenksi, 1961, p. 418). Under Roman law, for example, a defendant’s societal status was weighed heavily along with evidence. Any human judge might show undue favor to a plaintiff or a defendant because of private friendship, bribery, rank, power, or political affiliation, but God, the perfect Judge, cannot be tempted by any of the things that might tempt a human judge to show unfair partiality.

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Anonymous said...

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Article taken from

http://www.thevine.co.nz/article/read/17018/1243/god-respect
er-persons

or

http://tinyurl.com/yjusdbu


'God’s impartiality does not keep Him from choosing people and nations of people to accomplish His specific purposes. He was free to use the Israelites as the seed line to bring about the Son of God in human form (the Israelites have never been the only group of people who had access to salvation—see Romans 1:18ff; Jackson, 2004); He was free to use the Babylonians to defeat the disobedient Israelites in battle and to take the spoils from them (2 Kings 25:1-21); He was free to use Peter and Paul to spread the Gospel to lost sinners. God can accomplish everything He needs to do without violating His commitment to allow all the opportunity to be saved.

Furthermore, God blesses people in different ways. God’s impartiality does not mean that everyone will have exactly the same amount of money, exactly the same amount of influence, exactly the same number of children, or exactly the same number of years upon the Earth. (At the very moment that Peter noted God’s impartiality, he was in the presence of a man who possessed more material wealth than Peter did.) Some do have more money than others, some have families who love them more, and some even have more opportunities to hear the Gospel preached. However, everyone can be saved, if he is willing to search for the truth. While some accountable adults may live their entire lives without hearing a single Gospel sermon, they all experience the marvelous works of the hand of God, showing every person that He exists. Paul wrote:[W]hat may be known of God is manifest in them, for God has shown it to them. For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse, because, although they knew God, they did not glorify Him as God, nor were thankful, but became futile in their thoughts and their foolish hearts were darkened (Romans 1:19-21).

God always has expected impartiality from His followers. We should not treat people differently because of their financial status or outward appearance. The Lord said: “You shall do no injustice in judgment.

You shall not be partial to the poor, nor honor the person of the mighty” (Leviticus 19:15). Deuteronomy 1:17 reads: “You shall not show partiality in judgment; you shall hear the small as well as the great.” After describing a scenario in which a rich man was given a favored seat in the assembly, and a poor man was pushed to the side, James wrote: “But if you show partiality, you commit sin, and are convicted by the law as transgressors” (James 2:9).

In stating that Christians should not show partiality because they believe in Christ, James, by inspiration, suggested that favoritism—treating certain people as if they are of more inherent worth—is inconsistent with faith in Christ, and causes one to violate God’s law of liberty (2:8,12).

We are grateful that God has not arbitrarily chosen some people to be saved and some to be lost. Imagine a basis upon which He might select which people should be saved. Would He choose the wealthy? The well known? The most intelligent? Members of a particular ethnic group or culture?'

Rob in London

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Anonymous said...

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http://tinyurl.com/yjusdbu

'Fortunately, each person can choose for himself whether or not to accept God’s saving grace (Joshua 24:15; Isaiah 7:16; Ezekiel 18:20; Matthew 23:37; Revelation 22:17).

Each person is responsible for his or her own actions (Ezekiel 18:20; Romans 14:12; 2 Corinthians 5:10). Because of God’s marvelous love for all humans, He is not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance (2 Peter 3:9; cf. 1 Timothy 2:4).'

God states in Hosea 4:6

6 My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge.

We should test the spirits. Therefore people who wish to criticise me for what I have said, in order to warn the church, should look first at the evidence and information I have provided, as well as acknowledging that I have clearly distinguished between the Jewish people as a whole and this small but powerful and dangerous cabal known as Lubavitch Chabad.

'Ezekiel 3:16-20 (King James Version)

16 And it came to pass at the end of seven days, that the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,

17 Son of man, I have made thee a watchman unto the house of Israel: therefore hear the word at my mouth, and give them warning from me.

18 When I say unto the wicked, Thou shalt surely die; and thou givest him not warning, nor speakest to warn the wicked from his wicked way, to save his life; the same wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at thine hand.

19 Yet if thou warn the wicked, and he turn not from his wickedness, nor from his wicked way, he shall die in his iniquity; but thou hast delivered thy soul.

20 Again, When a righteous man doth turn from his righteousness, and commit iniquity, and I lay a stumbling-block before him, he shall die: because thou hast not given him warning, he shall die in his sin, and his righteousness which he hath done shall not be remembered; but his blood will I require at thine hand.'

We are of one blood, and there is no difference between Greek and Jew for those in Jesus Christ our Lord and Saviour. God is not a respecter of persons, nor should we be. Are you a respecter of persons SV?

God bless you,
Rob in London.

Anonymous said...

Ezekiel 33 (King James Version)

1 Again the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,

2 Son of man, speak to the children of thy people, and say unto them, When I bring the sword upon a land, if the people of the land take a man of their coasts, and set him for their watchman:

3 If when he seeth the sword come upon the land, he blow the trumpet, and warn the people;

4 Then whosoever heareth the sound of the trumpet, and taketh not warning; if the sword come, and take him away, his blood shall be upon his own head.

5 He heard the sound of the trumpet, and took not warning; his blood shall be upon him. But he that taketh warning shall deliver his soul.

6 But if the watchman see the sword come, and blow not the trumpet, and the people be not warned; if the sword come, and take any person from among them, he is taken away in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at the watchman's hand.

7 So thou, O son of man, I have set thee a watchman unto the house of Israel; therefore thou shalt hear the word at my mouth, and warn them from me.

8 When I say unto the wicked, O wicked man, thou shalt surely die; if thou dost not speak to warn the wicked from his way, that wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at thine hand.

9 Nevertheless, if thou warn the wicked of his way to turn from it; if he do not turn from his way, he shall die in his iniquity; but thou hast delivered thy soul.

10 Therefore, O thou son of man, speak unto the house of Israel; Thus ye speak, saying, If our transgressions and our sins be upon us, and we pine away in them, how should we then live?

11 Say unto them, As I live, saith the Lord GOD, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked; but that the wicked turn from his way and live: turn ye, turn ye from your evil ways; for why will ye die, O house of Israel?

12 Therefore, thou son of man, say unto the children of thy people, The righteousness of the righteous shall not deliver him in the day of his transgression: as for the wickedness of the wicked, he shall not fall thereby in the day that he turneth from his wickedness; neither shall the righteous be able to live for his righteousness in the day that he sinneth.

13 When I shall say to the righteous, that he shall surely live; if he trust to his own righteousness, and commit iniquity, all his righteousnesses shall not be remembered; but for his iniquity that he hath committed, he shall die for it.

CONTINUED BELOW. (Rob in London.)

Anonymous said...

(Continued from above.)

Ezekiel 33 (King James Version)

14 Again, when I say unto the wicked, Thou shalt surely die; if he turn from his sin, and do that which is lawful and right;

15 If the wicked restore the pledge, give again that he had robbed, walk in the statutes of life, without committing iniquity; he shall surely live, he shall not die.

16 None of his sins that he hath committed shall be mentioned unto him: he hath done that which is lawful and right; he shall surely live.

17 Yet the children of thy people say, The way of the Lord is not equal: but as for them, their way is not equal.

18 When the righteous turneth from his righteousness, and committeth iniquity, he shall even die thereby.

19 But if the wicked turn from his wickedness, and do that which is lawful and right, he shall live thereby.

20 Yet ye say, The way of the Lord is not equal. O ye house of Israel, I will judge you every one after his ways.

21 And it came to pass in the twelfth year of our captivity, in the tenth month, in the fifth day of the month, that one that had escaped out of Jerusalem came unto me, saying, The city is smitten.

22 Now the hand of the LORD was upon me in the evening, afore he that was escaped came; and had opened my mouth, until he came to me in the morning; and my mouth was opened, and I was no more dumb.

23 Then the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,

24 Son of man, they that inhabit those wastes of the land of Israel speak, saying, Abraham was one, and he inherited the land: but we are many; the land is given us for inheritance.

25 Wherefore say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Ye eat with the blood, and lift up your eyes toward your idols, and shed blood: and shall ye possess the land?

26 Ye stand upon your sword, ye work abomination, and ye defile every one his neighbour's wife: and shall ye possess the land?

27 Say thou thus unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; As I live, surely they that are in the wastes shall fall by the sword, and him that is in the open field will I give to the beasts to be devoured, and they that be in the forts and in the caves shall die of the pestilence.

28 For I will lay the land most desolate, and the pomp of her strength shall cease; and the mountains of Israel shall be desolate, that none shall pass through.

29 Then shall they know that I am the LORD, when I have laid the land most desolate because of all their abominations which they have committed.

30 Also, thou son of man, the children of thy people still are talking against thee by the walls and in the doors of the houses, and speak one to another, every one to his brother, saying, Come, I pray you, and hear what is the word that cometh forth from the LORD.

31 And they come unto thee as the people cometh, and they sit before thee as my people, and they hear thy words, but they will not do them: for with their mouth they shew much love, but their heart goeth after their covetousness.

32 And, lo, thou art unto them as a very lovely song of one that hath a pleasant voice, and can play well on an instrument: for they hear thy words, but they do them not.

33 And when this cometh to pass, (lo, it will come,) then shall they know that a prophet hath been among them.


Rob in London.

Anonymous said...

Dorothy, God knows my heart and intentions here. Peace be with you, but please be careful when you judge others that you are sure that you know what you are doing.

There is alot of information I have put up, I suggest that you review all of it including your very own laws that I've put links to.

I do not want to persuade people by my words and links alone. I hope that people research what I have said before judging it, and then give VALID specific reasons as to why the sites, as you have implied, are counterfeit in intention.

TEST every spirit, don't just assume, be as the Berean Greeks in all your research. Have so soon I become your enemy because I have told you the truth?

Do not go astray through lack of knowledge!

God bless you,

Rob in London.

Anonymous said...

Dear Craig,

Thank you for your comment at 11:39 PM, I agree with you too. Thank you for showing kindness to me and not prejudging me for what I have posted, before thoroughly examining all that I have posted, as others have done here.

I mean my comments above, here.

God bless you, peace and love to you and everyone on this site, may we remain firm in Christ our Lord,

Rob in London.

SV said...

Dear Rob in London,
In no way did I misquote the Word of God.
I will not bother to address your "respecter of persons" remark as I believe that you've chosen your words unwisely.
You seem to singling out Judaism alone, however, which is the premise for my questioning your motive.
Evangelicalism has much to account for in its various stages of apostasy, and yet you haven't addressed this.
There is much to address regarding the Muslim faith, yet you haven't addressed this either.
From what you've posted, you would have me understand that Judaism has condemned me as an idolater and has the authority to behead me at any time.
So I ask you, what is your motive?
Love?

By His Grace,
-SV

Anonymous said...

Constance,

The world is insane. Same -sex marriage is now called a right. Some people think that the priesthood is also a right and that keeping women from it is discriminating against them. But urinating on Jesus is fine.

HBO TV show has comedian urinate on Jesus.

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2009/10/28/catholic-league-blasts-larry-david-curb-episode-urinates-jesus/

amy h said...

Sweden... Their marriage rate is one of the lowest in the world, and yet they okay gay marriage. I didn't know marriage of any kind was important enough for them to discuss anymore. Shows how powerful the lobby for same-sex marriage is!