Thursday, June 18, 2009

MORE PIECES OF THE PUZZLE ON THE HI-JACKING OF EVANGELICALISM





Last year I did a series of articles on "The Hi-Jacking of Evangelicalism." Part VI was never published as I felt it may be just too much disturbing information for the Christian world. Since then, researcher Sarah Leslie has also been digging into an organization I was also scrutinizing: FAITH AT WORK now known as Lumunos. Rereading a book I had earlier used, MODERN VIKING by Norman Grubb, I discovered candidly, even bragging accounts of how FELLOWSHIP FOUNDATION a/k/a INTERNATIONAL CHRISTIAN LEADERSHIP was used to reach the elite with a very different gospel while FAITH AT WORK was to be employed to reach the masses.

In short, they had a very early "harmonic convergence."

In 1988, Barbara Marx Hubbard, who we now know to have been working closely with a figure very, very close to the center of both the New Age and Evangelical circles, Paul N. Temple, said in a Seattle speech: "Now all of the resonating core groups with OUTWARDLY DIFFERENT PURPOSES are merging and blending and coming together to do the one work.

Armed with this and other "missing links," I am now working to complete part VI of my NEWSWITHVIEWS and this blogspot series on "THE HI-JACKING OF EVANGELICALISM." Sarah Leslie and I will discuss this tonight on my internet/satellite radio program, MY PERSPECTIVE which you can reach the live radio and the chatroom by going to www.themicroeffect.com.

Please tune in to join us tonight and Stay Tuned!

Constance

75 comments:

Susanna said...

This "convergence" sounds like another variation of the kind of "double talk" found in gnostic cults of yore.

As part of the strategy for peddling their false mysticism,
these cults would infiltrate established religious groups ( especially the Abrahamic religions ), employ the usual orthodox-sounding "exoteric" teachings for the "Joe bag'o donuts" masses, and a secret/esoteric "knowledge" for the "qualified" elite few who were willing to befoul their souls with the demonic "initiations" required in order to obtain such "knowledge."

I have studied enough about the occult revival of the 19th-century to understand that ultimately, such "initiations" often involve voluntary possession. Ergo the use of the term "befoul their souls."

I am looking forward to reading Part VI of THE HIJACKING OF EVANGELICALISM!

Anonymous said...

Check out the youtube posting at Rich of Medford's site.

Susanna said...

Anonymous 11:50 A.M.

Regarding the video on Rich of Medford's site.....

Interesting the way in which the woman in the lavender jacket cites Homer's pagan saga THE ILEAD as the standard of what "spirituality" ought to be.

The ILEAD is the story of the Trojan War which began on account of the act of adultery committed by the Trojan Prince Paris with the Spartan Queen Helen.

Doesn't sound too "spiritual" to me - however much the lady in lavender tries to lard her "tolerance" pleas with ancient pagan poetry.

By the way, Abraham preceded Homer by approximately 600 years.

LOL If "ancient" is the criterion for authenticity, then the more ancient story of Abraham and another exceedingly beautiful woman named Sarah would be a much more edifying standard of what spirituality ought to be.

When the Pagan Egyptian Pharoah tried to take Abraham's beautiful wife into his harem (thinking her to be Abraham's sister), God inflicted plagues upon Pharoah and his household - just severe enough to prompt Pharoah into suspecting that something was amiss with regard to his "new bride." Sarah.

Needless to say, Pharaoh gave Abraham a good talking to after he found out that Sarah was Abraham's wife before sending Abraham and Sarah on their way..... laden down with the considerable wealth that Pharaoh had given them.

And what happened to Helen?

She "reincarnates" from time to time - "each time being shamed" - in the gnostic tradition...notably, with Simon Magus who reportedly traveled about with a prostitute named "Helen" whom Simon also called "the lost sheep." Sigh!
:-)

Rudi said...

Thank You Anonymous, and especially thank you Rich. I've just watch finished watching the video and reading what Rich has posted.
Most readers here will recognize Karen Armstrong in the video. The final version of the "Charter For Compassion" she speaks of, (according to the Charter of Compassion website)
will be revealed in late 2009. Karen is a member of the High Level Group of the Alliance of Civilizations. Archbishop Desmond TuTu, also featured in the video is a HLG Member as well.
Here again is the link to the United Nations Alliance of Civilizations home page. Highlighting the categories (in orange) at
the top of the page will allow you to educate yourself from a huge array of related information.

http://www.unaoc.org/

Here is also the link to The Charter For Compassion website which I would recommend thoroughly
examining, in particular note those who are partnered with one another.
All listed "inter religious"
organizations on the "Partners" page have links provided.

http://charterforcompassion.com/

This is real folks. ABOVE ALL Watch, Pray, know The Living Word, and fear not.

"Strengthen ye the weak hands, and confirm the feeble knees.
Say to them that are of a fearful heart, Be strong, fear not:
behold, your God will come with vengeance, even God with
a recompence; he will come and save you. Isaiah 35: 3-4

-Rudi

Anonymous said...

Rudi,

Thanks for the great reminder from Isaiah 35, I can hardly wait for that day!

God bless!

Constance Cumbey said...

EXTRA - EXTRA - EXTRA - REFRESH YOUR PAGE AND CLICK ON PICURE TO ENLARGE TO FULL PAGE AND CLICK ON THE HEADLINE TO READ FULL STORY -- ONLY 2 HOURS OLD AS OF TIME OF POSTING.

THE CREEPIEST OF DEVELOPMENTS WITH OUR EU 'FRIENDS' APPEARS TO BE HERE!

CONSTANCE

paul said...

Amen Susanna,
Even Moses, who wrote about
Abraham, preceded Homer.

Moses: roughly 1,300 BC
Homer: roughly 1,100 BC
Socrates: 470-399 BC
Plato: 428-348 BC
Aristotle 384-322 BC

Constance Cumbey said...

I just viewed Rich's compelling video at http://www.pineline.blogspot.com/

I urge EVERYBODY to immediately VIEW IT and SAVE IT -- Pass it on!

Constance

Anonymous said...

Karen Armstrong wants to teach people how to interpret their scriptures? These people think thought is now a crime. On the surface, it seems like they might be right, about exclusion inviting intolerance etc, but when you apply the law of non-contradiction, you realise that everyone's exclusive. You can't belive in re-incarnation and the ressurrection at the same time, in karma and grace at the same time, dualism and non-dualism at the same time. It's not logically possible.

Savvy

Anonymous said...

If different religions disagreeing with each other about fundamentals causes extremism, then why is the AOC disagreeing with religion?



Savvy

Anonymous said...

Constance...I have been reading your blog and read your books about 25 years ago about the New Age movement. My concern now is the emerging church which some of my family is personally involved in. You might want to check out Spiritual Directors International and International Justice Mission which on the surface looks good but I have seen links to the new age. Many Christians are being duped thinking they are representing Christ,but are sadly deceived. Another "convergence" of the "faithful". Also the author of the Shack, William Paul Young is sending his own brand of Universalism theology and the church is eating it up.

Anonymous said...

DEMOCRATS BURY COMMUNITY TRANSFORMATION PLANS IN HEALTH CARE BILL

http://www.infowars.com/democrats-bury-community-transformation-plans-in-health-care-bill/

Joyce said...

Some interesting links on RFID, and our future. You can be sure that reducing health care costs will be tied in with this technology. When Tommy Thompson was Sec. of Health he invested 160 million taxpayer's dollars studying Verichip for healthcare records.

http://www.gs1.org/

This symbol is interesting.. It's the familiar all seeing eye and a combo of the whole world in the hands that we see on so many organizations:

https://www.orderbarcodes.com/

Interesting board of Governors:

http://www.gs1us.org/About/BoardofGovernors/tabid/63/Default.aspx

Joyce said...

Very interesting EU site:

http://www.iot-visitthefuture.eu/

Joyce

Joyce said...

Here was a video from the EU's most recent conference:

http://www.iot-visitthefuture.eu/index.php?id=153

http://tiny.cc/VP2CM

and from that I linked to this video about brain computer interface...creepy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G71mTc1hiP0
http://tiny.cc/Q8JWY

Joyce

Joyce said...

I would encourage you to take a look at Anders:

http://tinyurl.com/merl9d

I had to looked it up on cached, because his normal link doesn't work. I'm wondering if someone doesn't like the contents of his blog..?

Curious if anyone can open the site.. It's Anders euro-med if you do a google search and then you have to convert the language to English.

Joyce

Anonymous said...

Anyone who has a background in economics...Please read this and comment...Thank you!

http://www.truthdig.com
/report/item/20090614
_the_american_empire
_is_bankrupt/

Anonymous said...

Verichip and Microsoft already have the deal done for medical records - now its just a matter of the sell job to everyone else.

Anonymous said...

Repeating myself: Many medical offices, including my own, are switching from paper records of patients to electronic records. Claiming it's saving paper (trees). Claiming is for the ecology. Soon the govt. will demand all those electronic computer records and we'll all be in Big Brother's clutches.

Len said...

6/19/2009

Re: "_the_american_empire
_is_bankrupt"

True: America's debt is increasing at an alarming pace. IIf we nationalize health care we will be nationalizing 17 % of our economy and increase our debt by a trillion dollars over the next ten years.

Obama is increasoing the national debt at the fastest rate since WW2. We did not go bankrupt in WW2 but we had no economic rivals then other than the Axis. Today many nations would love to topple us.

Chris Hedges is a long time leftist, anti-American journalist and his article, while plausible, is a wish. He evidently hate Obama as much as he hated all previous presidents.

Being in debt does not automatically result in bankruptcy unless the lenders call in the debt. Notwithstanding our serious economic situation, if the economy revives as it is showing signs of doing, interest rates will rise and inflation will be held at bay. The dollar is still the best game in town and those nations Hedges mentioned know it.

Anonymous said...

RE: Rich's video

(emphasis my own)

Matthew 10:
14Whosoever shall not RECEIVE you, nor HEAR your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet.

16Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves.

17But BEWARE OF MEN: for they will deliver you up to the councils, and they will scourge you in their synagogues; 18And ye shall be brought before governors and kings for my sake, for a testimony against them and the Gentiles.
19But when they deliver you up, take NO THOUGHT how or what ye shall speak: for it shall be given you in that same hour what ye shall speak. 20For it is not ye that speak, but the Spirit of your Father which speaks in you.

22And YE SHALL BE HATED of ALL MEN for my name's sake: BUT he that ENDURES to the end shall be saved.

24The disciple is not above his master, nor the servant above his lord. 25It is enough for the disciple that he be as his master, and the servant as his lord. If they have called the master of the house Beelzebub (now that’s hate speech),

HOW MUCH MORE shall they call them of his household?

26FEAR THEM NOT THEREFORE:…

28And FEAR NOT THEM which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: BUT rather FEAR HIM which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

32Whosoever therefore shall CONFESS ME before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven.

33But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.

34THINK NOT that I am come to SEND PEACE on earth: I came not to send peace, BUT A SWORD.

35For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. 36And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.

40He that RECEIVES YOU RECEIVES ME, and he that receives me receives him that sent me.

TO THE "ONLY" (how exclusive)WISE GOD who said...

Mt 4:10 Get thee hence, Satan: for IT IS WRITTEN, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and HIM "ONLY" shalt thou serve.

Mk 2:7 who can forgive sins but GON "ONLY"?

Take comfort knowing...

Jude 1:24 All glory to God, who is ABLE TO KEEP YOU from stumbling, and who will bring you into his glorious presence innocent of sin and with great joy.

25 …who "ALONE" is GOD our Savior, through Jesus Christ our Lord.

prayerful

Anonymous said...

Should read:
Mk 2:7 who can forgive sins but GOD "ONLY"?

Anonymous said...

Now they want to zone the oceans-
wgbh.org/cainan/article?item_
id=4073905

courtesy of Drudge

paul said...

I hope that millions of people
resist this marketing scam of
a census, like this brave
Congresswoman.

http://tinyurl.com/nq8o4l

Resident said...

Paul,

Rep. Bachmann is becoming a national folk hero.....and deservedly so.

It is certainly good to know that we have at least ONE Rep. in Congress speaking out against looters disguised as CB bureaucrats!

Constance Cumbey said...

I WILL BE DOING A LIVE RADIO INTERVIEW WITH PASTOR LEIGHTON SMITH OF NEW YORK CITY at 11:06 p.m Eastern Time. I assume his broadcast starts at 11 p.m. I don't know how to tune it in, but I know from past broadcasts that they are widely listened to in the New York City / East Coast.

Pray that I be strengthened through this and listen if you can.

Constance
Friday, 10:50 p.m (16 minutes from air time)

Constance Cumbey said...

PLEASE REFRESH YOUR BROWSER AND LOOK AT THE LATEST PICTURE I POSTED -- CLICK IT FOR FULL PAGE READING.

CONSTANCE

Joyce said...

It was interesting to watch the Ayatollah deliver his speech during the Friday prayers to a huge crowd that looked absolutely mesmerized. We should not underestimate the power of mass brainwashing of the Iranian people.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oh_Wqi2mbXw

http://tiny.cc/EvU8M

Shabbat shalom,
Joyce

Anonymous said...

Constance,

Can yourself or someone else help me out with maybe quotes on how the Emergent church views Orthodox Judaism and the Old Testament. I need to post these on IF.

Thanks

Savvy

Susanna said...

So far, he, (Netanyahu)has been refusing the calls of the United States to abide by Israel's commitments in the first phase of the Road Map.

Gee! Is it perhaps because the Gaza Plan has already demonstrated how speedily the "Road Plan" is able to morph into a TRAIN WRECK???"

Anonymous said...

I've been posting much information over at Israel Forum
http://www.israelforum.com/board/showthread.php?t=12369&page=48 or
http://tinyurl.com/ladyev
where I can put more information down than I can on these threads.

Readers here will find many useful new links starting on page 48, including links to the Charter for Compassion that Rudi originally posted on as well as the New Age website New Heaven New Earth.

Savvy has also posted good information there.

Dorothy

Anonymous said...

I have been keeping up with the Large Hadron Collider which is said to be turned back on this Fall.
What was of most interest was the mention of its connection to the GRID at about a third of the way though the video. (5.20 of 7.28 minute video)

http://tinyurl.com/kj3wfy

JC

Constance Cumbey said...

I have been watching the Iranian developments with enormous concern and interest today -- has kept me offline.

Constance

Anonymous said...

Within the last day, there has been one of the biggest suicide attacks in a while in Iraq. This took place in an area where responsibility was handed over to Iraqis, proving that things are far from stabile there.

The power of Shiite Muslims in Iraq should not be underestimated. What happens in Iran has implications for Iraq, and of course for the Middle East Peace process.

As I was watching the uprising in Iran, I was reminded that the right to bear arms in any country is important. Dictatorship can only come about in a nation where its citizens do not have this right.

Since Iran has supported all of the enemies of Israel, like Syria, Hizb'allah, Syrian and Hamas it will be interesting to see how things turn out.

I'm watching this carefully too. It's hard to imagine how the youth can overthrow this regime that's in place and what the implications are for their Shiite ideology where the Ayatollah is supposedly receiving divine revelation.. Make no mistake that his grip on power is with the goal of destroying Israel.. America,Britain and Israel are considered big and little satans by this regime.

Throw the nuclear threats of N. Korea into this mix and Obama has a full plate. If that isn't enough to keep him busy, he's trying overhaul the whole health care and financial system, etc, etc,.

Just listening to all things he wants to change is exhausting.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIBzNrzx5sE
http://tiny.cc/IxvGQ

and right underneath that video is the first gay prom queeen... Arnold paved the way for this last year with the rules he passed..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZjyzIBvR-k&NR=1

http://tiny.cc/sZztA

While these subjects might seem like they're not connected I believe they are, to Obama's "utopian" vision of change and Hollywood is eating it up because it represents their values.. It will influence the values of the youth who attend schools that allow this and have curriculum designed to make this acceptable.

Yes, we ain't seen nothing yet..as Obama says...

If anything good comes out of the situation in Iran, you can be sure that Obama will get credit for it because of his speech in Egypt and his theme of change. We'll have to see how this plays out, but anything bad will be blamed on Bush, and any good attributed to Obama..

May God help us in the days ahead as these changes take place at breathtaking speed, and those of us who stand for Scriptural values find ourselves living in a world has moved further away from God's Word.
Joyce

Len said...

6/21/2009

Census: The Washington Times America's Morning News (interview with Rep. Michele Bachmann)

Shelly Lowe, a spokeswoman for the U.S. Census Bureau, said Mrs. Bachmann is "misreading" the law.

She sent a portion of the U.S. legal code that says anyone over 18 years of age who refuses to answer "any of the questions" on the census can be fined up to $5,000.

http://tinyurl.com/nq8o4l

Joyce said...

From the Crans Montana website you can link to this:

http://tiny.cc/aeMtb

A high level Islamic meeting in Tunisia, including many European Islamic groups, and Anna Lindh, headed up by one of the high level group of AoC, Jewish Moroccan advisor to the king:

http://tiny.cc/ogmT0

Well it wouldn't be an Islamic conference if they weren't bashing Israel, so true to form here is their talk on Israel's so-called war crimes:

http://tiny.cc/NZb3F

and this talk is about the "protection" of Islamic and Christian holy sites:

http://tiny.cc/HYhHD

Hard to believe they are really worried about Christian holy sites.. If these Christians read the Bible they should be worried about the Islamic destruction of all Biblical holy sites, including the ones that prove Solomon's temple was under the present location of the Dome of the Rock, which would solidify Israelis claim to Jerusalem.

All Bible believers should be concerned about this, not only Israelis.

Since this meeting includes many from EU, it's interesting to read their ideas about Jerusalem:

http://tiny.cc/Ablmn

Now bear in mind that the Jordanians are responsible for the "supervision" of the supposed holy places on Temple Mount, what Muslims refer to as Wakf ( land in Islamic possession that it is their Islamic duty to keep, or get back if lost)

The most amusing phrase is a the end "what would happen if Jewish fanatics carried out their threats,etc, etc.. You can read for yourselves:

http://tiny.cc/NVQva

What are they going to call Yeshua, when He steps down on the Mt of Olives and then enters by the East Gate ( that they have blocked because from what I understand, they know Messiah is coming this way, same reason they put an Islamic cemetery there to keep a Jewish Messiah away from what Torah calls impure i.e. contact with death).

Last but not least:

You'll all be happy to know about these Westerners turning to Islam, including former member of the Jackson 5, Jermaine, and of course the other celebrities like Cat Stevens, Mohamed Ali, Mike Tyson etc.

http://tiny.cc/YMxP9

That is the goal, by the way, the whole world under Islam..

Joyce

Joyce said...

Some other interesting links from the site:
Arab-European Centre for Studies in Paris

and World Youth Day is being held in Turkey:

http://www.turkiye2010.org/

Turkey will one most likely end up in the EU despite Nicolas Sarkozy's objections.. At least this is how things are point with all the attention on Turkey this year, the AoC meeting there, Obama's visit, etc..


The Old Roman Empire with it's eastern capital being revived, only this time there is Islam too..

Some more organizations linked to this youth program:

http://www.peacechild.org/

They're using Obama's ad campaign "be the change".

The usual list of characters like Jane Goodall can be associated with these efforts:

http://www.fredfoundation.org/boardmembers.html

http://tiny.cc/xc8Ve

..and of course the World Youth Congress and its affiliates are designed to promote UN Millennial Development Goals, as well as AoC agenda.

Joyce

Constance Cumbey said...

A census worker from Indiana called us yesterday for telephone completion. He admitted to me that EVERYBODY in the USA was being given the questionnaire. He offered telephone completion which I accepted only after he said that any questions I was uncomfortable with I could refuse to answer. I do believe that information profiling is being conducted which can be indispensable to those among us who would literally implement the system detailed in Rev. 13.

Constance

Unknown said...

JC, I have also been watching the Hadron Collider, where they are trying to prove the Big Bang and how creation happened, and as well disprove the truth of our Creator God. Interesting that when I first found out about CERN, and what they are doing the scripture in Daniel came to my mind,
Dan 7:25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.


http://tinyurl.com/mwm635

also this one CERN in 3 minutes shows this grid and what they want to do wiht it globally very well.

Your first link video went right into many others explaining this very well for anyone to see what they are trying to do with quantum physicis.

Comes to my mind that Solana himself is a physicist, right???

thanks a heap JC, I have now shared these videos with my husband and others for them to get to see what CERN is about and what they are doing.

Interestingly if we think any conditioning may be going on the new movie from Dan Brown's book, Angels and Demons
features CERN prominently.

Anonymous said...

CERN needs to know that the Big Bang Theory was proposed by a Belgian Catholic Priest who believed in God.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Bang

Resident said...

Len,

I read the same Washington Times report and I don't believe Ms. Lowe is being completely truthful.

Some people are being led to confuse the constitutionally mandated decennial census with the American Community Survey.

At this point, I think that certain Census Bureau hacks will do or say just about anything to intimidate people into complying with their new "rolling," non-enumerative-and-hence-unconstitutional American Community Survey" which is NOT part of the decennial 2010 Census.

The only questions I am planning on answering is the number of voting age persons living in my household.

Constance Cumbey said...

Very disturbing and telling, a trailer for the MOVIE 2012 slated to come out on November 13th:

http://movies.yahoo.com/feature/2012-roland-emmerich.html#watch

Constance

Anonymous said...

Roma- The way is indeed narrow and few are they that find it....meanwhile the masses that hate our God and His truth seek to "wear the saints out" with waves of lies that challenge the tuths of our God...and we as His children are hated on account of Him whom we call our Father. Thank you for your encouraging words. We're all just beggars leading fellow beggars to bread.... along with clues to help us to help others to understand what is going on all around us in these very dark times.
JC

Anonymous said...

Roma shared the following link

http://tinyurl.com/mwm635

which explained CERN in 3 minutes and "shows this grid and what they want to do with it globally..."

After viewing this, I was more convinced than ever that this project is a MAJOR part of Solana's passion for (GRID)control and global success.
Roma brings up a very good point is reference to Solana himself as a physicist!!!
JC

Anonymous said...

Constance,

The 2012 movie link says that 'there's either going to be a major war or the dawning of the Age of Aquarius'. I know God is in charge, whatever happens.

Savvy

Anonymous said...

CERN, 50 years of science

http://tinyurl.com/nk42sd

http://tinyurl.com/kp8dl3

Anonymous said...

An interesting article at Chris Perver's site-

http://www.prophecynews.co.uk/content/view/1235/2/

Jerusalem launches debate on sharing Temple Mount

Written by Chris Perver
Sunday, 21 June 2009






This link from my friend Samuel. Religious leaders in Jerusalem launched a new project on Thursday, aimed at fostering peace between Judaism, Islam and Christianity through the sharing of Judaism's most holy site. The project is headed by the Interfaith Encounter Association, which aspires to promote a vision of peaceful coexistence between the 'three Abrahamic religions'. In light of the Middle East conflict, which centres upon the city of Jerusalem and in particular the Temple Mount area, the project envisions a day in which the contested site can be shared by the religions of the world. A painting being used to promote the vision of the organization depicts a rebuilt Jewish Temple, standing alongside the Islamic Dome of the Rock. The artist portrays Christians, Muslims and Jews streaming in through the reopened Eastern Gate of the Temple Mount toward their respective holy places

etc

Joyce said...

I just finished composing this and saw the post above mine, but I will post it anyway because it adds some information to the previous:

Headline from Jerusalem Post:
CAN THE THIRD TEMPLE BE BUILT WITHOUT DESTROYING THE DOME OF THE ROCK:

http://tiny.cc/GFigf

What's most amazing is that Interfaith Encounter Association who is connected with Heinrich Eliyahu Benedikt is the one mentioned in the article.

Yehuda Stolov of IEA is a facebook friend of Benedikt's as I mentioned a while back. Benedikt is participating in two significant events in the near future, the Parliament of World Religions and Crans Montana Forum.

The Islamic Movement and the Orthodox would be opposed to this, but they will probably labeled as obstacles to this ecumenic process...or someone will be identified who qualifies both as the Mahdi ( Islamic Messiah) and the Jewish Messiah to Jews. Christian eschatology is quite divided about what Messiah will or won't do, but I'm sure there are some that would welcome the building of the Temple too, especially if it could bring "peace".

There is the false peace and the true shalom ( wholeness) which will only happen when the real Messiah comes. The first should precede the second.

Matt. 24:15-24 “Therefore when you see the ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION which was spoken of through Daniel the prophet, standing in bthe holy place (let the reader understand), then those who are in Judea must flee to the mountains.“Whoever is on athe housetop must not go down to get the things out that are in his house. “Whoever is in the field must not turn back to get his cloak.“But woe to those who are pregnant and to those who are nursing babies in those days! “But pray that your flight will not be in the winter, or on a Sabbath. “For then there will be a agreat tribulation, such as has not occurred since the beginning of the world until now, nor ever will.“Unless those days had been cut short, no life would have been saved; but for the sake of the elect those days will be cut short.“Then if anyone says to you, ‘Behold, here is the Christ,’ or ‘There He is,’ do not believe him. “For false Christs and false prophets will arise and will show great 2bsigns and wonders, so as to mislead, if possible, even the elect.

Joyce said...

News on the Lisbon Treaty:

http://tiny.cc/pGChI

Seems like things are falling neatly into place.
Joyce

björn said...

Joyce, intresting to see this news exact 3,5 years before dec 22, 2012, the alleged 2012 datum. Did the EU already get an Irish 'yes' behind the scenes yesterday? farmer
(my word verification asks my to enter the word "trick", lol)

björn said...

(at leat this would legalite a treaty with many and such giving legal ground for the ENP treaty with Israel)

Joyce said...

Bjorn,

Yes, and it will be interesting to see what happens to Turkey:

http://www.hurriyet.com.tr/english/domestic/11914459.asp?gid=244

http://tiny.cc/ZiXTw

with Sweden taking over rotating Presidency it looks like negotiations continue:

http://tiny.cc/lMSGj

Quite a picture developing...

Barroso won his second term as President of the EU Commission and he is committed to Turkey's entry into EU. He sees this as an "alternative" to radical Islam.

http://www.viddler.com/explore/euxtv/videos/27/

http://tiny.cc/ETkwu

And all of this happened on the heels of Summer Solstice..

Oh, and speaking of the Irish the Druids were out in force at Stonehedge to celebrate the occasion:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2009/06/22/load-of-pagans-115875-21461107/

http://tiny.cc/Zqt7b


...and a 9th month season of introducing Turkish culture to the French begins in July. Could Nicolas Sarkozy overcome his opposition to a Turkish membership? Only time will tell..

http://tiny.cc/pupK4

Joyce

Anonymous said...

My solstice--to Joyce--

The sun never shines directly into my kitchen. Not that I was aware of. I avoid too much sun and have tinted windows.

But on Solstice Eve, 2009, the sun shone blindingly into my kitchen as I returned home at 8 PM. I thought I might have left many lights on and chided myself for being wasteful. But
then I saw that it was a direct sunbeam that was illuminating my kitchen table, brighter than any electric light I have in the house.
Then I remembered, Solstice!

My house, and probably each other house on my street, before the street curves away from this line,
is Stonehenge!

Mariel

Anonymous said...

Grant Jeffry's book also makes the case that the dome of the rock would not need to be removed to build the 3rd temple.

Anonymous said...

Mariel, 11:16

Which Stonehenge street are you on? TX, MO, NV, TN, or ??? Interesting how all the Stonehenge streets seem to curve the same way. Hmmm...my guess, is you live on the one in TN.

Bleedin Red White and Blue Baby! said...

Constance,

I linked a page a while back for a site called the Institute for Human Continuity or IHC. This page offers a lottery to protect those chosen from the coming disasters of the 2012 propaganda, however after looking into IHC I found the site is owned by the same company producing the film and is a form of well disguised viral advertising. Which leaves one to wonder why if the site is for a films promotion, why would there be no mention of such film after one followed all the links and steps associated with said site?

Jaclyn said...

I have heard that there will be some animal rights laws inacted in 2010....it is speculated that this could be the law broken by Jews who resume animal sacrifice and the pretense under which the AC puts a stop to the sacrifice.

I don't know but interesting.

***********************************

End 'cruel' religious slaughter, say scientists

Beasts should be stunned before their throats are slit, Jews and Muslims are told

By Martin Hickman, Consumer Affairs Correspondent

Monday, 22 June 2009

Religious slaughter techniques practised by Jews and Muslims are cruel and should be ended, says a scientific assessment from the Government's animal welfare advisers.

The Farm Animal Welfare Council says that slitting the throats of the animals most commonly used for meat, chickens, without stunning, results in "significant pain and distress". The committee, which includes scientific, agricultural and veterinary experts, is calling for the Government to launch a debate with Muslim and Jewish communities to end the practice.
One Muslim organisation, the Halal Food Authority, already insists on the slaughterhouses it regulates stunning animals first on welfare grounds, as long as they are still alive when their throats are slit. But in other halal and almost all kosher slaughterhouses, animals have their throats slit without prior stunning which would render them insensible to the pain. Religious groups say that doing so would be against their interpretation of religious texts.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/end-cruel-religious-slaughter-say-scientists-1712241.html

Bleedin Red White and Blue Baby! said...

All,

As anyone who lives in the state of Michigan may know, over the last weekend we were hit with some harsh weather, unfortunatly I was a first hand subject to this as I was stuck 2 counties north of my home, in the middle of a flash flood. While stuck in a hotel room, I saw a TV ad promoting vaccines, not just any vaccines but flu amd swine flu vaccines. As of now I have yet to here of a mandatory vaccine for any flu, and am yet to find even a existence of a vaccine for the latest outbreak of this swine flu. So why have I seen a TV ad promoting such a vaccine?

Anonymous said...

Constance, would you post your show dates and times with a link to the site in a highly visible area on your blog? I went to a website, but there are different times given and it's kinda confusing. Also, are archives of your show available for listening to at a later time?

Thank you for all of the excellent work you've done to let us know what the New Age movement has been up to.

Rudi said...

Club of Rome Programme on
"A New Path for World Development"

"In a new phase of its activities, the Club has launched, at its 40th Anniversary assembly in Rome in June 2008, a three year, international programme of collaborative research and consultation to define the content of "A New Path for World Development."

Brief Summary at the following link:

http://tinyurl.com/kvpod9

http://www.clubofrome.org/eng/meetings/winterthur_2008/


"It is clear that the present path of world development is not sustainable in the longer term, even if we recognise the enormous potentials of the market and of technological innovation. New ideas and strategies will be needed to ensure that improved living conditions and opportunities for a growing population across the world can be reconciled with the conservation of a viable climate and of the fragile ecosystems on which all life depends. A new vision and path for world development MUST BE CONCEIVED AND ADOPTED (emphasis mine) if humanity is to surmount the challenges ahead.

In response to this intellectual and practical challenge, the Club of Rome will undertake a three year programme on "A New Path for World Development" so as to achieve a better understanding of the complex challenges which confront the modern world and to lay solid foundations for THE ACTION WHICH MUST BE TAKEN (emphasis mine) to improve the prospects for peace and progress.

The Programme will not only engage decision makers and experts and provide them with feasible proposals for action but will also engage with the public through a variety of channels. It will be in part, an "open source" programme. It will undertake only a limited amount of original research, drawing on the wide array of available information and research in progress. It WILL BE IMPLEMENTED(emphasis mine)in close collaboration with partner organizations, providing a framework through which their ideas and contributions can be integrated. This will increase the credibility and impact of the efforts of the Club itself."

"The Programme will focus on five "clusters" of related issues within the overall conceptual framework of 'A New Path for World Development'":


The five related clusters are:

Globalization - "This cluster relates interdependence, distribution of wealth and income, demographic change, employment, trade and finance."...

International Development - "This cluster relates sustainable development, demographic growth, poverty, environmental stress, food production, health and employment."...

Social Transformation - "This cluster relates social change, gender equity, values and ethics, religion and spirituality, culture, identity and behaviour. The VALUES AND BEHAVIOUR on which the present path of world development is based MUST CHANGE if peace and progress are to be preserved within the tightening human and environmental limits."
(emphasis above mine)

Peace and Security - "This cluster relates justice, democracy, governance, solidarity, security and peace. The present path of world development risks alienation, polarization, violence and conflict; the preservation of peace is vital in itself but is also a precondition for progress and for the resolution of the issues which threaten the future."

Environment and Resources -
"This cluster relates climate change, peak oil, ecosystems and water. Radical and rapid social and economic transformations will be needed to avert runaway climate change and ecological breakdown."

http://www.clubofrome.org/eng/new_path/

Chapters of The Club of Rome are found worldwide. The link below is The Club of Rome homepage and appears to be a very recently updated website. Some sections are still "Under Construction". Still, there is plenty of documentation available for anyone willing to do some digging. I'm actually surprised at the amount of information they appear ready to release to the public.
The "pupil" must be ready.

http://www.clubofrome.org/eng/home/

-Rudi

Joyce said...

Rudi,
It's clear to them that things are no longer sustainable, based on their bogus science...so God must need their help to sustain the planet..

Jeremiah didn't seem to think so:

Jer. 32:17 ‘aAh Lord 1GOD! Behold, You have made the heavens and the earth by Your great power and by Your outstretched arm! Nothing is too difficult for You,

Yes, the pupil is certainly ready because when these "experts" make statements like this, very few question them...Those of us who do will be written off as extremists or fundamentalists..
**************
On another note, it seems that once again France is emphasizing the secular nature of their country by banning the burqa as a sign of "slavery"....Don't misunderstand me, I don't think the burqa is good either but most other Western nations do not get involved in telling religious people what they can and can't wear:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/23/world/europe/23france.html?ref=europe

http://tiny.cc/5boId

Last time France made a big stink over the head covering in schools, it caused another one of those debates in the Muslim world and the West about religious symbols.

Oddly enough, France's request to stop veils being worn ( along with other religions symbols) has produced even more extreme step of Muslim woman wearing the full burqa.

Some are afraid of the burqa for security reasons.

It's always interesting to see what "discussions" result from decisions like this.
Joyce

Anonymous said...

Stonehenge: It's so popular. A condo development recently appeared in a local affluent neighborhood. At the roundabout at the entrance to the development four large, tall stones were installed in the center, grassy area of the roundabout.

Anonymous said...

Constance,

I don't live on a street called Stonehenge. It is my house which seems to be oriented toward the solstice setting sun, and I was just speculating that all the houses on the same "line" must also get invaded by the solstice setting sun, the same way. My son said that when archeologists dig up our street they will say "the priests must have lived on this street."

I live in New Mexico, where our sun is brighter than average because we are at altitude and we have very little air pollution. So that our sunsets are ofter almost "white".
And this one was like a searchlight.
No "significance", just sharing a unique occurrence.

Mariel

Joyce said...

CONSTANCE and all,

Please take a look at this:
A MONUMENT TO MANKIND:

http://www.humanitad.org/programs/m2m/
http://tiny.cc/MZeJ6

Shades of Alice Bailey:

http://www.humanitad.org/about/symbol/
http://tinyurl.com/l9rdkw

http://www.humanitad.org/network/mdg_network
http://tinyurl.com/nta7ps

One of the "team members":

Gary Krupp KC*SG OStJ

Interfaith Advisor
Gary Krupp is the Founder and President of Pave The Way Foundation, a not-for-profit organization dedicated to bridging the gap between the world�s diverse faiths. His renown as one of the world's most influential lay-persons is often highlighted in the world media, more recently as a result of his core facilitation of Pope Benedict XVI's recent trip to the United States.

Honors
Knight Commander of the Pontifical Equestrian Order of St. Gregory the Great
Vatican City, July 2000

Jewish National Fund�s Centennial Tree of Life Award
Garden City, New York, September, 2002

Investment by Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II into the Anglican Order of St. John
New York City, July, 2005

United Nations Path to Peace Servitor Pacis Award
United Nations, New York City, June, 2006

Sacred Constantinian Order of St. George Benemerenti Medal of Good Works
St. Matthews Cathedral, Washington D.C., June 2006

Humanitarian Award - New Seminary, United Nations
Cathedral of St. John the Divine, New York City, June 2006

Jerusalem Medal

He's Founder of this organization:
http://www.pavethewayfoundation.org/AboutUs/
http://tinyurl.com/mtdnle

These are the supporters of the project, including Robert Muller and folks from the Global Consciousness Project:

http://www.humanitad.org/team/#leaders
http://tinyurl.com/mx5asp

More:

http://www.humanitad.org/network/humanitad_network/

http://tinyurl.com/ls997g

Humantaid links to this:

http://www.exemplarzero.org/

and maybe this is the plan for Jerusalem:

http://www.humanitad.org/programs/earth_sanctuary/

http://tinyurl.com/lqmsyo



Take a careful look at this site and the connecting sites too:


http://www.globalimpactforum.org/global_reach.php

http://tiny.cc/vMDbx

Joyce

Rudi said...

Quite a find Joyce, thank you!
From your link about Humanitad regarding "symbol"

"The Symbol"
"The 12 ray sun symbol has been created as an intercultural and interfaith emblem for the promotion of goodwill and tolerance between governments, faiths, cultures and creeds of the world. The sun is an eternal symbol of hope, of rebirth and of unity."

Brings more than a few very recent
obsevations to mind. Also, the following from the Humanitad blog
headline magnifing their participation at the March 17, 2009 Millennium Development Goals Awards Ceremony.
Please everyone, take a look at all of the material from Joyce's links. This is a wake-up call if I've ever seen one, especially due to the high level UN participation,
Humanitad networking and personalities involved. -Rudi

http://www.humanitad.org/blog/

Joyce said...

Rudi,
From the Humanitad blog site, you can link to this:

http://www.arcoscielos.com/links

http://tinyurl.com/lub8bl

and these interesting group of characters:

http://www.futurefoundation.org/about/fff_advisors.htm

http://tinyurl.com/mmrsdm

and some of the connected organizations:

http://www.futurefoundation.org/resources/index.htm

http://tinyurl.com/mm6pj8



Joyce

Joyce said...

And this site is incredible. I'll post one part, but you really have to surf around. There's a lot on it:

http://mpcollab.org/MPbeta1/node/25
http://tinyurl.com/lwxzgf

Here's the home page:

http://mpcollab.org/MPbeta1/front_page
http://tinyurl.com/ls6o2l

Be careful, you can put yourself on camera if you click on a little box.

Then from there you go to 3D internet, the future of Internet:

http://tinyurl.com/5wrtf9

You must watch this movie:

http://mpcollab.org/MP-SL5.mov

And here are the sponsors of the Millennium Project, not to be confused with the Millennial Development Goals although there are overlaps.


Joyce

Constance Cumbey said...

Regarding Michelle Bachman story -- I don't know which scares me more:

THE CENSUS OF 2010 AND ITS SNOOPERVISORY QUESTIONS

OR

THE WASHINGTON TIMES (owned and operated by Unification Church / Rev. Moon)

Constance

Anonymous said...

The fats breaking future of things - this one is on EPC - RFID bar coding - with recent articles - especially from Japan regarding eliminating cash to control the economic roller coaster we are all being treated to an expensive ride on, one that can cost a person thier soul.

http://tinyurl.com/kl7ecs

DouginMI

Resident said...

Constance & All

This article about U.S. Census Bureau spokesperson Shelly Lowe is NOT from the Washington Times.

It comments on the "possibly sloppy" Washington Times reporter Stephen Dinan who apparently misquoted and/or misrepresented Ms. Lowe.

http://blog.coincidencetheories.com/?p=1968

Anonymous said...

DAVID LETTERMAN'S HATE, ETC. !

David Letterman's hate is as old as some ancient Hebrew prophets.
Speaking of anti-Semitism, it's Jerry Falwell and other fundy leaders who've gleefully predicted that in the future EVERY nation will be against Israel (an international first?) and that TWO-THIRDS of all Jews will be killed, right?
Wrong! It's the ancient Hebrew prophet Zechariah who predicted all this in the 13th and 14th chapters of his book! The last prophet, Malachi, explains the reason for this future Holocaust that'll outdo even Hitler's by stating that "Judah hath dealt treacherously" and "the Lord will cut off the man that doeth this" and asks "Why do we deal treacherously every man against his brother?"
Haven't evangelicals generally been the best friends of Israel and persons perceived to be Jewish? Then please explain the recent filthy, hate-filled, back-stabbing tirades by David Letterman (and Sandra Bernhard and Kathy Griffin) against a leading evangelical named Sarah Palin, and explain why most Jewish leaders have seemingly condoned Palin's continuing "crucifixion"!
While David, Sandra, and Kathy are tragically turning comedy into tragedy, they are also helping to speed up and fulfill the Final Holocaust a la Zechariah and Malachi, thus helping to make the Bible even more believable!
(For even more stunning information, visit MSN and type in "Separation of Raunch and State" and "Bible Verses Obama Avoids.")

timlittle said...

I thought you might be interested in learning about OUR Jewish traditions which embrace the real Christ. We are the Frankist Association of America. One of our members has a new book out:

http://www.amazon.com/Real-Messiah-Throne-Origins-Christianity/dp/1906787123/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1245892844&sr=8-1

These are our teachings passed on through generations. If you can't afford the book you can see the website of one of our teachers - www.stephanhuller.blogspot.com.

Shalom

Beth El Jacob Frank

paul said...

"...and when they shall say he is in the
secret chambers, believe it not."

Another typical re writing of the
Christian faith. Another example
of how GOD, the creator of the
universe, was unable to protect
his faith and unable to protect
his word, and just generally
impotant regarding the
transmission of his will through
the ages.

All these heresies have this in common;
God somehow lost control of Christianity,
and it ended up all wrong, except for
this or that cult, which has it right,
of course..
Meanwhile, and for the last 2000 years,
the millions, no billions, of faithful
followers of Jesus have been all
wrong and only this little cult has it
correct.
Give me a break.
Christian Scientists
Mormons
Frankists
etc etc etc
Question to Stephen Huller:
Where is your God?
How did he
completely lose control of
his own set of teachings to man?
Answer: He didn't, and he's not
in the "secret" place known only to
you select few Frankists etc.

Heresy !

Anonymous said...

If you really want an explanation of Huller's understanding of how the faith was wrested from the hands of people of the Middle East and corrupted by Europeans look at his blog http://www.therealmessiahbook.blogspot.com

Judge for yourself

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