Wednesday, May 13, 2009

Rich of Medford saw the Michael Savage et al purge coming

To my readers

Richard Peterson posted the article below to his blogspot on May 3, 2009. A few short days later, Great Britain released a list of 16 people "named and shamed" by it and banned from coming to Great Britain. Most prominently on the USA list was Jewish radio commentator Michael Savage, now labeled in effect as a terrorist for criticisms of a religion other than his own. As to others on the list including Pastor Phelps of Topeka, Kansas, I understand that perhaps at least some of the people on that list never intended to go there and enrich it with their tourist dollars. Although I am generally not a fan of "shock jock" type radio, I am deeply concerned about freedom of speech issues -- both as a citizen and as a lawyer viewing where our our Orwellian 1984 society adjourned for 25 years to 2009. Richard and I have been doing some telephone and on-line collaboration and the circumstantial evidence is that the Alliance of Civilizations is lurking in the near foreground on this Great Britain move which may unfortunately presage our near global future. Read this and stay tuned. Today it was Michael Savage. Tomorrow it may be any one of us.

Constance


Free Speech in Fetters


by Richard Peterson

The Second Forum of Alliance of Civilizations has passed and the American media coverage has amounted to little more than did or did not Obama attend the Forum? One might have expected better media coverage with questions ranging from what is the Alliance of Civilizations to what is United States’ interest in this initiative. Instead, the media expressed confusion despite Turkey’s Foreign Ministry had published President Obama’s itinerary on its web site. The itinerary shows President Obama was expected to give a speech at the forum.

Heritage Foundation writer Brett Schaefer contacted both the White House and the Alliance of Civilizations seeking confirmation that the President would indeed address the conference. The White House said it simply did not know. The Alliance responded it would neither confirm nor deny the President’s attendance. If what the Alliance has planned for us is such a good thing, why not be more forthcoming? Why does the media neglect to give this coverage? In Hitler’s Germany, a resistance group known as the White Rose wrote in their first pamphlet:
  • "Nothing is so unworthy of a civilized nation as allowing itself to be governed without opposition by an irresponsible clique that has yielded to base instinct. It is certain that today every honest German is ashamed of his government…by means of gradual, treacherous, systematic abuse, the system has put every man into a spiritual prison. Only now, finding himself lying in fetters, has he become aware of his fate."
This eerily describes present day governments whose politicians have eroded them giving favor to global governance, doesn’t it? These days, I believe the media is contributing to similar treacherous, systematic abuse. Yet, along with the rest of us, the media, too, shall soon learn of its fate. What a shock it should be as they learn they assisted in sealing it.

This September the UN General Assembly will vote whether the Alliance of Civilizations initiative moves from that of preparatory to activation stage. The Alliance openly calls for tight controls on free speech. A Media Rapid Response force has been established to provide newspapers and television stations reporting “guidelines” during times of crisis, particularly in the area of where politics and religion intersect. Given the system of global governance intends to unify religion and the state rather than maintain separation, everything now falls within this intersection. To ensure that media coverage adheres to a code of conduct, the Alliance of Civilizations has called for journalistic accreditation as well as a review board which will monitor news coverage. The Alliance, to show it upholds the principles of a free press, says that the he media will be “self-regulating” although it acknowledges that “regulation is not possible without pressure to bear”.

There are two individuals whom I would like to credit for recently drawing attention to the Alliance’s global gag on free speech. These articles are by Claudia Rosett writing for Forbes and Brett Schaefer writing for Heritage Foundation. These journalists get it. Claudia Rosett has clearly spent time reading the Alliance of Civilizations materials. Quoting from Rosett:Among the latest attacks on free speech include the resolution to combat defamation of religion which was voted on by Human Rights Council last March (analysis here). This defamation of religions framework has its way of appearing throughout the interlocking UN initiatives. The Alliance of Civilizations is committed to making it a high priority.
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Constance,

Do you have a list of those blacklisted, if so was reason given publicly?
 
5/13/2009

Hi JD,

The list of the 16 "least wanted" includes Michael Savage.

Also Baptist pastor Fred Waldron Phelps Snr and his daughter Shirley Phelps-Roper, Hamas MP Yunis Al-Astal, Jewish extremist Mike Guzovsky, former Ku Klux Klan grand wizard Stephen Donald Black, neo-Nazi Erich Gliebe, Artur Ryno and Pavel Skachevsky, the former leaders of a violent Russian skinhead gang, preachers Wadgy Abd El Hamied Mohamed Ghoneim, Abdullah Qadri Al Ahdal, Safwat Hijazi and Amir Siddique, Muslim activist Abdul Ali Musa (previously Clarence Reams), murderer and Hezbollah terrorist Samir Al Quntar and Kashmiri terror group leader Nasr Javed.
 
Where is the ACLU? It's silence is deafening.
 
Len,

Thanks for the list. I can see legit reasoning behind a lot of these names, except Savage, Phelps, and Phelps-Roper. I assume these were propably for negative comments about homosexuals, or something to that extent. If you can share more, consider my interest peeked.
 
Len,
The ACLU is trying to get Obama to show the torture pictures..

Their lawyer whose name is a Muslim one is fighting Obama's claim that it is potentially dangerous to the US troops on the field.

Joyce
 
ACLU Founder, Roger Baldwin: "...the goal is Communism." Will
 
I made a number of comments on Rich's blog about the history of Muslim jihad, with articles that give quotes from the Quran. Ignore Dorothy's remarks and you will see the nature of Islam's desire to dominate.

One of the great strategies of this AoC initiative to ban freedom of speech will ultimately cause the world to come into submission to Islam, but not allowing people to voice their disagreement with the religion. I'm not denying the New Age aspect of the UN and its influence, but the UN is clearly favoring Islam. Perhaps this is because Muslims comprise 1/4 of the world population. As I said, and I will repeat, HaSatan does not care what kind of deception he keeps people in, just as long as they are deceived.

It is interesting to note in Muslim countries voicing disagreement or changing one's religion from Islam to something else is punishable by death, depending on the country.

This allows the work of jihad, ( Islamization of the world by any means to go forth unhindered).

Some of the participants in the Alliance of Civilizations, like the Jordanian royal family do not allow the very peace and tolerance they proclaim in their country.

The idea of peace is that Muslims must stay Muslim, they should support a Palestinian state and anyone deviating from this position is persecuted. There are things going on in Jordan today, that the government is well aware of that are in direct contradiction to the AoC mission statement.

There are believers in Yeshua in many Muslim countries, some who love Israel. If this ever came out they would be imprisoned or killed.

This so-called religious tolerance of AoC is one-sided. If people agree with their brand of peace and tolerance, it's okay. Muslims who leave Islam are not tolerated.

European governments will be submitted to Islam, and with Obama as our President, I'm not sure how much longer before US follows suit.

I hope you all take a careful look at this website:

http://www.ing.org/

If we tried to go into schools and explain Biblical beliefs it would not be tolerated, but look what US is now accepting.

The truth is, thankfully, most Muslims neither study or follow Islam, the way it's supposed to be followed. Most Muslims have been raised with Islam and there are very strong protections to keep people in the religion, by fear and social pressure, particularly those that live in Muslim countries. In spite of that, many Muslims today are coming to know Yeshua through dreams and visions, through television, radio, etc. Most of them when they do, will be the first to critique Islam.

http://www.youtube.com/user/Muslims4Jesus

http://tiny.cc/kJf56

God is pouring out His Spirit today, on Muslims because He loves them and wants them to come to a saving knowledge of Yeshua, so we should not be against Muslims, so I just want to be clear about that.

If you know a Muslim, share the love of Yeshua with them. They have no assurance of the forgiveness of sin unless they die in the cause of jihad.

This is a kind of interesting fellow, a former Pakistani Muslim who knows Yeshua and loves Israel:

http://www.abrahamic-faith.com/

Abba is doing interesting things in our days...so with all the bad, be encouraged and keep sharing this good news while we're still free to, here in the West. In many places it is forbidden.
Joyce
 
It was an excellent and timely article Rich. Thanks for all your diligence in researching to help us stay informed. Much thanks to Constance also for sharing so much of her time and research with all of us, both here and on the Micro Effect twice each week on 'My Perspective'.

JD:Here is the BBC article from May 5, 2009. Note to any who don't know,Michael Alan Weiner is Michael Savage. Yep, he is definitely rough around the edges, (:~o but
8 out of 10 times he says what most of us are thinking but don't have the nerve to say out loud. Some of you may have noticed he has recently begun writing for World Net Daily.
Some years ago when I tuned in to his radio program for the first time,I was unsure of what to think. But after a while, after I got over my initial shock, and started to actually listen to what he had to say, I began to feel respect for the boldness and honesty I was hearing, as well
as his refusal to play by the the politically correct rules - he makes me think and I like seeing someone willing to tell it like it is and show some backbone. I don't necessarily agree with everything
he says, but I 100% stand behind his and all us to express our free speech rights on or off the public airways.

BBC article 5/5/09

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/8033060.stm

UK 'least wanted' list in detail;

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/8033319.stm
 
Under these rules about not criticizing religion, this fellow would be muzzled:

http://www.muslimjourneytohope.com/

Watch his testimony..

Joyce
 
And we in America, don't have to put up with this:

http://www.onefreeworldinternational.org/?q=behindenemylines

Sorry, but I thought you should see the realities...

Joyce
 
The pope has asked for a 2 state solution. So much for a "non-political" pilgrimage to the Holy Land.

http://tiny.cc/hJsbD

Well, we have Islam, the Catholic Church, EU, US, UN, Russia all in agreement. We must be getting closer folks:

Joel 3:2 I will agather all the nations And bring them down to the valley of Jehoshaphat. Then I will center into judgment with them there On behalf of My people and My inheritance, Israel, Whom they have dscattered among the nations; And they have edivided up My land.


Of course there are many pragmatists in Israel itself that believe this is the solution, so obviously they don't stand on the promises of God.

This week's Torah portion is about the shmitta, and the yovel. God removed Israel from the Land, when they did not obey and let the Land rest on the year of Sabbath ( the 7th year). The yovel, the return of the Land on the 50th year is another topic covered in the Torah portion.

For those who think, God is not concerned with the Land, think again.

I understand when secular governments look pragmatically on the subject of the Land, but when those who claim to be attached to the Scriptures don't get it we have a serious problem. I'm not singling out the pope. This is a malignant cancer which has metastasized:

http://action.cmep.org/t/4030/petition.jsp?petition_KEY=173

http://tiny.cc/e37qw

When people who claim to believe in the Bible, but chop out "inconvenient truths" from its pages, we call this apostasy.


Joyce
 
Rudi,

Thanks for the link.

Susanna,

From the last thread, thanks again. I must share with you the tremendous amount of joy that my wife bestowed upon me this morning. While sharing with her the info you left for me, she told me her main concern was to be able to show her boss where these teachings are wrong. She has accepted the fact she may lose her job in the end, so long as she is able stand firm in her beliefs and share her concern for someone else.

She already knew exactly when, where and how this could become a violation of her rights, as part of her job is to make sure her office stays within its employees individual rights. None of us really know how much longer we will still have them, but for the time being we will still gladly excercise them. Although, I pray it doesn't come to that. Not that we are worried about the possible loss of work for her, if that is our Fathers will then so be it. We don't want to see another person lost in this confusion.
 
Crimestoppers and Sussex Police joined forces for the campaign called "Too Much Bling, Give Us a Ring".

People are urged to report their suspicions about apparently wealthy people with no legitimate income.

Criminal assets worth £1.5m were forfeited and confiscated by Sussex Police between April and December 2008.

A police spokesperson said the government had returned £167,000 to the force in the last quarter.

http://tinyurl.com/otgt86

Okay, now I am all for trying to stop money laundering and ill gotten money. However this is simply a way to encourage people to rat out their neighbor. How many will be wrongly targeted with investigations just because someone thinks they are driving too nice a car? We are seeing way too much of this type of "help out your local big brother". Is Sussex really that over run with crime? Last I knew this was a place where the over privaledged vacationed.
 
JD,

Again, I am glad to have been able to help.

My husband once left a job when he discovered things going on that didn't square with his conscience.

His resignation resulted in a pay cut of several thousand dollars.

Neverhteless, I supported him 100% because I believe that money earned under such circumstances never brings a person any luck.....at least none that lasts.

I have to say that God has been very good to us and we have been blessed far beyond what we would have ever thought to ask for!

For a while, money was tight, but within a couple of years, my husband recouped the money he lost and then some!

The irony is, moreover, that the person for whom my husband was working went out of business not long after my husband resigned.

Praise God!
 
Joyce,
I would love to say that your remarks amaze me but, unfortunately by now, I am immune to your contradictions and pious stances regarding how right you are and how wrong everyone else is (by your standards, Heaven will be filled with the saints and YOU). You have refused to allow any differing ideas on this blog to be made without your preaching them right out of this comments section, to the detriment of many here seeking the truth. Now you have gone one step farther! Isn't it bad enough that Dorothy refuses to comment here and has chosen to post her insights on another blog specifically because of your malicious attacks? It's not good enough for you that BECAUSE of YOU she has sought out another forum?! NO, your biased bashing can't stop there, you actually 'followed' her to the new forum and harass her there! The irony in it all is, you write (at 1:17 AM), "Ignore Dorothy's remarks" and the rest of your post criticizes and examines the detriment of the AoC's banning the FREEDOM OF SPEECH! Although you don't necessarily have that capability yourself (Thank God), you do, by your harsh criticism of others quell their WANT to even attempt to discuss anything with you...not even the weather!
You end your post with "Abba is doing interesting things in our days...so with all the bad, be encouraged and keep sharing this good news while we're still free to, here in the West. In many places it is forbidden.". The 'good news' you share here in the West is done in such a harsh and 'Holier than thou' way that no one even listens to you when you 'share'. In fact, many people see "JOYCE SAID..." and completely skip everything you 'said'!
Maybe this kindergarten example will FINALLY help you understand why no one wants to 'play with you': Two little girls were playing one day, one had an oreo cookie. The girl without a cookie asked, "What kind of cookie is that?" The first girl pulled the oreo apart and smeared the side with the cream stuck to it in the face of the little girl who merely inquired about which type of cookie it was. The girl with the cookie then asked, "Would you like some?!"
You, Joyce, have smeared your 'good news' in so many peoples' faces that, not many will listen to you. You have amazingly managed to ban your own free speech. I understand, and appreciate Constance not forcing anyone off her blog but, really Joyce, how fair is it for you to suggest everyone ignore someone elses comments and read only yours?! I have said it before, GET YOUR OWN BLOG!
CS
 
In following up on Heinrich Eliyahu Benedikt, I noticed that he is on the Facebook of Yehuda Stolov, who is a big mover and shaker in the Interfaith movement. You can read his credentials:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yehuda_Stolov

From his site I found a site that is just in the process of being developed, with some very interesting participants and familiar names:

http://www.futureshapers.net/

Ervin Laszlo is listed on there and another familiar name Lady Fiona Montagu, who was just appointed as Global Advisor to the Club of Budapest.. She serves on the World Wisdom Council and is trustee of this organization.

There is quite on lot on these several links and I could add a lot more, but I hope some of you will take the time to focus on the ones that I have posted. I think it is significant, especially in light of Laszlo and Benedikt's ongoing involvement in Crans Montana Forum:

http://via-visioninaction.org/

Eventually, these links get you to the UN's
Faith Decade and the World Network of Religious Futurists:

http://faithdecadeforpeace.net/history/

http://www.wnrf.org/cms/index.shtml


Given the urgent push for Mideast Peace, and some of the statements by the King of Jordan, Tony Blair, the Pope, etc... I don't think any of this is accidental.

Joyce
 
CS

Re:You, Joyce, have smeared your 'good news' in so many peoples' faces that, not many will listen to you.


It's a little hard for a person to credibly share the "Good News" once he/she becomes part of the "BAD NEWS!!!"
 
Dear CS,

I agree with your post but I want to point out that nearly everyone here at this blog likes Joyce, and that this continues to be true irrespective of how she treats others.
 
Hear No Evil I beg to differ. I highly doubt nearly everyone here at this blog likes Joyce. She has either driven people to near madness thus making them abandon commenting on this site or those of us who continue to be a part, keep our keyboards quiet for the sake of having to trudge through 90 or so "Joyce says" posts in a comments section of only 136 comments! If you notice, hardly anyone ever tries to show her the err of her ways anymore. You can lead a Joyce to her own blog but you can't make her post! Ha!
 
JD,

Here is some more information on Jon Gordon that I thought you might want to see.

ERWIN MCMANUS: A SECRET BEHIND THE SECRET
Jon Gordon is the author of a book called The 10-Minute Energy Solution. Ironically enough, Ray Yungen wrote about Gordon and his book in A Time of Departing. He wrote about it to show further proof of Ken Blanchard's embracing of the New Age, for you see Blanchard had endorsed Gordon's book. Listen to what Yungen said:

In early 2006, a book hit the market called, The 10-Minute Energy Solution by Jon Gordon. The book is filled with suggestions on how to improve energy levels through meditation, yoga, breathing exercises, and other such techniques. Throughout the book, Gordon quotes favorably from the Dalai Lama, meditator Daniel Goleman, Thich Nhat Hanh, New Agers Marilyn Ferguson and Wayne Dyer, and from A Course in Miracles. Gordon promotes panentheism (God in all) by saying things such as: "You came from this source [speaking of God] and you are this source."

Jon Gordon is as New Age as it gets. On Tuesday morning we read an article from Gordon's recent newsletter. The article is titled "The Secret Behind the Secret." In discussing the new film, The Secret, Gordon states:

The law of attraction [what The Secret is based on] is important to share and it's a big part of my new book, "The Energy Bus," which tells the story of a man who uses the law of attraction to help turn around the negativity, fear, adversity, and challenges in his life. In understanding the law of attraction many are now realizing that they are involved in the creation of their lives; that their energetic thoughts, beliefs and actions have an impact on the world and in imprint on the energy fabric of the universe.

You see, Gordon likes The Secret because he believes that God is in all creation. And The Secret teaches that God is in everyone; actually it teaches that we are God. Listen to The Secret:

We are the creators not only of our own destiny but also of the Universe ... We are all connected, and we are all One (p. 175).

No matter who you thought you were, now you know the Truth of Who You Really Are. You are the master of the Universe. You are the heir to the kingdom. You are the perfection of Life ( p. 183).

You are God in a physical body ... You are all power ... You are all intelligence ... You are the creator ( p. 164).

Few could deny, after hearing these statements that The Secret is pure occultism, especially when we realize that the author of the book is a disciple of "the teachings of Abraham," 1 which is a group of spirit guides (demons). But listen now to what Jon Gordon says next in his article. To him who has ears, let him hear:

While having dinner the other night with Erwin McManus, author of "Soul Cravings" and a person who has had a profound impact on my life, we discussed The Secret and Erwin made a great point that we need to explain there is a secret behind The Secret.

God gave us free will and the power to choose. In choosing to have faith and believing in a brighter and better future, cultivating a grateful and appreciative heart, and practicing forgiveness we open ourselves up to amazing possibilities. We become a vessel God can use to mold into the people we were born to be... who share the love we were meant to share.

We are co-creators of our life with God. We are both creating and being created at the same time. The universe is not some magic genie that's says, "Your wish is my command," bringing you any car, house, or amount of money you desire. The Secret does not exist to satisfy your every wish but to help us become the kind of people God can use to make His ultimate wish come true - Heaven on Earth and inside each one of us.

Erwin McManus resonates with The Secret and with Jon Gordon....read more....

http://www.lighthousetrails
research.com/mcmanus
secret.htm
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In the "Yoga - cise" paragraphs below, one is reminded of THE GOLDEN COMPASS in which so-called "daemons" in animal form and of the opposite sex were attached to everyone beginning as children.
THE GOLDEN COMPASS
http://tinyurl.com/2v7kb2


Addicted to New Age energy

Jon Gordon is a New Ager, who openly promotes Yoga, Qigong, Tai Chi, meditation, and more on his website

( http://tinyurl.com/24tx3j ).

On page 8 of his article, "The Energy Addict's 7 Day Plan For Raising Healthy & Positive Kids," Gordon even promotes Yoga for children:

Yoga-cise

Children’s yoga is becoming very popular and it is great to teach them at a young age. Many of the yoga postures are named after animals and this makes yoga fun for children. You can either buy a children’s yoga video or look for a children’s yoga class in your city or town......

Gordon wrote the books Energy Addict: 101 Mental, Physical, & Spiritual Ways to Energize Your Life (September 2004), and The 10-Minute Energy Solution (December 2005), both of which were endorsed by Ken Blanchard

(http://www.jongordon.com/
books.html ).

And in Blanchard's latest endorsement of a Jon Gordon book, he leads the reader to get onboard "the right bus;" a bus fueled by New Age "positive energy":

If you want to fuel your family, your career, your team, and your organization with spirit, read this book. Jon’s energy and advice will leap off the page and help you cultivate positive energy in everything you do—and you will make the world a better place for your having been here. Thanks, Jon, for pumping us up and making sure we get on the right bus. [The Energy Bus, January 2007,

http://www.jongordon.com/
theenergybusbook.html

In the Expanded 2nd Edition of his book, A Time of Departing, Christian author and apologist Ray Yungen has this to say about one of Jon Gordon's books and his spirituality:

...in early 2006, a book hit the market called, The 10-Minute Energy Solution by Jon Gordon. The book is filled with suggestions on how to improve energy levels through meditation, yoga, breathing exercises, and other such techniques. Throughout the book, Gordon quotes favorably from the Dalai Lama, meditator Daniel Goleman, Thich Nhat Hanh, New Agers Marilyn Ferguson and Wayne Dyer, and from A Course in Miracles. Gordon promotes panentheism (God in all) by saying things such as: "You came from this source [speaking of God] and you are this source." [Lighthouse Trails Publishing, 2006, pp. 164-165]

Gordon's panentheism is further illustrated in his August 1, 2005 The Energy Addict newsletter, where he attempts to reduce the Biblical Creator and Sustainer of the universe to a mere "source and force" or "whatever":

The way I see it, God, the universe, intention, or whatever you wish to call the source and force from which everything emanates and gives everything life is really big and has a lot of energy-perhaps an infinite amount of energy. This energy makes the world go around. It moves our legs, lights up the stars and fuels every living creature on earth. With so much energy in the universe I often wonder why as energy beings many of us expect so little of ourselves and the world around us. As an Energy Addict we must tap our share of infinity. There is so much energy in the universe even if we tap a big share, there will still be plenty of energy for everyone else....read more....

http://www.letusreason.org/Ecumen15.htm
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Friday, June 20, 2008

JON GORDON, AUTHOR OF THE NO COMPLAINING RULE IN HIS OWN WORDS

“After college until about 32 I was drawn to new age writers, Buddhism and quantum physics. I always saw the world in terms of energy. I never liked organized religion and never went to church. Never felt at home there. I thought Jesus was a great teacher and messenger and enlightened being......

.......“Then after a conversation I had with a Buddhist energy healer (not the usual way most people find Jesus) it all became clear to me and I walked out of his office committed to following Jesus. I was baptized on Palm Sunday, 2007. People think that only Christians can point you in the right direction but for me it was the fact that God used everyone in my life to show me the way. God brought me to my friend Daniel. He brought me to Erwin McManus. He brought me to Rob Bell. He brought me to the Buddhist energy healer. He brought me to Jesus. And now he is bringing me to those who are stuck and need God more than ever.”http://www.assistnews.net/Stories/2008/s08060135.htm

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While Jon Gordon doesn't appear (so far) to have any direct ties to the Institute of Noetic Sciences, Ken Blanchard, who has promoted his books, does appear to have such ties.

THOUGHT LEADER GATHERINGS

The Twin Cities Thought Leader Gatherings have included individuals from the following organizations:

(Among those included are individuals from the Institute of Noetic Sciences and The Ken Blanchard Companies. Click onto link below.)

http://tinyurl.com/oc25v6
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DISCOVER AND MANIFEST YOUR ULTIMATE DESTINY SYMPOSIUM

http://tinyurl.com/qgsnzy

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BOTH Ken Blanchard and Institute of Noetic Sciences co-founder (along with Paul Temple) Edgar Mitchell are "graduates" of the so-called "Hoffman Process."


KEN BLANCHARD AND THE NEW AGE MOVEMENT

".....The list of Hoffman Process graduates is impressive and sometimes surprising. It includes the likes of international management guru Ken Blanchard and Apollo 14 astronaut Edgar Mitchell. It contains an abundance of psychiatrists (like TM doyen and author Harold Bloomfield) as well as professors of psychiatry" (ibid., emp. mine)...read entire article.......

http://tinyurl.com/ptrhht
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KEN BLANCHARD AND THE HOFFMAN QUADRINITY PROCESS

http://tinyurl.com/r4hxdj
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Check out page 54 at the following "noetic.org " link

http://www.noetic.org/
research/files/Bleep_Study_
Guide.pdf
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Here are some related links where "new labels" for "old errors" are listed.

ENERGY MEDICINE

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_medicine
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LIST OF BRANCHES OF ALTERNATIVE MEDICINE

http://tinyurl.com/pyyn5p
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JON GORDON'S ENERGY TIP: THE SCIENTIFIC BENEFITS OF PRAYER

http://www.jongordon.com/
012306TheScientificBenefitsofPrayer.htm

I posted this on the previous thread by mistake. That is why I am posting it again here. LOL I had better take a break. I have been on this computer too long!
 
HOFFMAN QUADRINITY PROCESS -

formerly known as

FISHER-HOFFMAN PSYCHIC THERAPY (FHPT)

When I discovered that astronaut and IONS co-founder Edgar Mitchell along with Ken Blanchard was a "graduate" of the Hoffman Quadrinity Process, I did a little snooping around and discovered something very interesting; namely that the Hoffman Quadrinity Process is merely a cover for the promotion of the occult/neo-gnostic "Perennial Philosophy."

See pages 2 and 3 at the following link.

THE QUADRINITY IS A MODEL FOR INTEGRAL BEING

The Quadrinity is a framework for understanding human behavior and development. All
four aspects of the self, Spiritual Self, Physical Body, Emotional Self and Intellect are interrelated.
When they are integrated, there is inner harmony, wholeness and love.
For thousands of years, human beings have attempted to understand and come to terms
with the mystery of life and of creation itself. One enduring notion maintains that the “source”
of everything is a nonphysical, intelligent, loving spirit, or being and that we are connected to
that spirit. Aldous Huxley called this the “Perennial Philosophy.” Though the exact manner
in which people have viewed this higher intelligence varies from age to age and culture to
culture, the knowledge of its existence persists, even with the ascendancy of science and technology.
Ken Wilber described “perennial philosophy” in the following way: “Reality, according to
the perennial philosophy, is not one-dimensional; it is not a flatland of uniform substance
stretching monotonously before the eye. Rather, reality is composed of several different but
continuous dimensions. Manifest reality… consists of different grades or levels…. At one end
of this continuum of being or spectrum of consciousness is what we in the West would call
‘matter’… and at the other end is ‘spirit’ or ‘godhead’ or the ‘superconscious.’”

Human beings have always searched for ways to connect and have communion with this
presence. They have used many names to describe this experience. Some call it God; some
call it the “ever present Subject.” Many also describe experience with it as ecstasy, joy, clarity,
bliss, inner peace, wholeness, and love. Even a moment of such an experience can be life
transforming. Here is what Ralph Waldo Emerson said: “Our faith comes in moments; our
vice is habitual. Yet there is a depth in those moments which constrains us to ascribe more
reality to them than to all other experiences... I am constrained every moment to acknowledge
a higher origin than the will I call mine.“ (The Over-Soul )
.....read more.....

http://www.hoffmaninstitute.org/pdfs/nls.pdf
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THE HOFFMAN QUADRINITY PROCESS COMES TO HYDE-BATH AUGUST 10-17, 2009

DearHAPAParents January 20,2009

Hyde joins the Kennedy School of Government (KSG) at Harvard as the only educational institutions to
annually offer this world renowned program.
This initial program will be open to Hyde administrators and Hyde and HAPA parents. It provides
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Harvard has proven, personal growth and leadership training go hand in hand.
While participants in the first program will only include administrators of the five Hyde Schools together
with Hyde and HAPA parents, future annual programs will be open to all members of the Hyde community. There is a very natural bond between the Hyde and Hoffman Processes
.....read more

http://hyde.edu/ftpimages/107/misc/misc_51921.pdf

HOFFMAN INSTITUTE
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoffman_Institute
_________________________________

Here, the HOFFMAN INSTITUTE is discussed on the Rick Ross Cult Education Forum


HOFFMAN INSTITUTE

http://forum.rickross.com/read.php?4,23413,page=1
_________________________________


The following is a "must read." It is by a "New Age" Jesuit priest who is involved with the Hoffman Process.

THE ONTOLOGICAL ODD COUPLE

The original Process, the Fisher-Hoffman Psychic Therapy (FHPT), was created by Bob Hoffman and the people he gathered around him between 1968 and 1973, most notably Claudio Naranjo.* It had to fight for a marginal existence, competing with other offerings in the world of human potential that were then beginning to appear in California. Though the firm hand of Hoffman was always present during this period, he sought input from many sources (who sometimes did not even know that Hoffman was talking to others about the same issue). But he attributed final changes to his spirit guide, Dr. Fisher, which, I will argue, was part of the story he created to make a plausible claim that a tailor from Oakland could be the source of a complete psychological treatment........

......The Inspiration
I heard Hoffman describe the inspiration for the Fischer-Hoffman Psychic Therapy many times. The rather bare outline of this otherworldly encounter never varied. In the middle of a night in 1967, the figure of a recently departed friend, the psychiatrist Siegfried Fischer, appeared at the foot of his bed and revealed to him the missing link in psychoanalytic therapy: the concept of negative love, the stream of negative behaviors unconsciously passed from one generation to the next.
....read more...


http://jesuskoan.blogspot.
com/search?q=hoffman
+institute
_____________________________

The practice of psychosynthesis is a fringe psychotherapy blending various Eastern and Western methods of self-awareness. It was developed by Robert Assagioli, who for years was the Italian director of Lucis Trust, the occult organization founded by New Age leader Alice A. Bailey.17 It makes extensive use of visualization and imagery in order to contact the "higher self," which can become the means for psychic development and spirit contact.
Along similar lines, a psychic named Bob Hoffman (with the supposed help of a dead friend, Dr. Siegfried Fisher) and a psychiatrist named Ernest Pecci, developed a system of psychic psychotherapy called the Fischer-Hoffman technique, later renamed the Quadrinity Process. "This system involves imagining an inner sanctuary and a spirit guide in order to aid in receptive visualization."18 One Quadrinity teacher, Jean Porter, reveals its occult application through her book, Psychic Development (Random House, 1974)....
http://www.geocities.com
/heartland/estates/
6535/visual1.htm
 
Knowing how they prime and condition the public for their "plans", I found Farmer's new post quite facinating!

You may want to check it out ;-)

http://freiberg.blogspot.com/
 
Joyce - you gave the link to;
http://www.futureshapers.net/

I first came across this site a good few months ago when trying to learn a little more about Lady M of Beaulieu. It seems to be a long time in the making, however, it's secretariat John Renesch seems to be a busy man.

From John's site http://renesch.com/ I followed a link to his blog
http://tinyurl.com/pk8ot6
and read his article 'Do You Think Globally? Then Check This Out!' where John invites his readers to sign the 'declaration' at neo.org a new site for global citizens.

Their intentions page makes interesting reading (as does the links page)!
http://www.neo.org/intention.php

"A new global currency for good -
Every time you successfully invite someone to Neo.org you will get a Neo. [value $1 or £1, etc] Shortly there will be ways to exchange, buy and sell Neos and transfer Neos to others for goods and services. We are also working on partners who will exchange rewards of other kinds for Neos."

---

On Neo's link page an interesting institute in the making -
http://www.thenewworldbank.com/

Their slogan is - the tool to collect the solutions,the knowledge and the people that will change the world.

---

Whether or not Ervin Laszlo is involved with Neo or New World Bank, I don't know. They do however seem to be very much in the same ethos as his Global Martial Plan.

There seems to be a big NA effort on this year to get people signing up to pledges and declarations!

~K~
 
DISCLOSURE EVENT?????

http://www.history.com/content/this-changes-everything
 
K,
Thanks for the additional info. I missed your earlier post. It's interesting to see all these connections and I agree, the signing of documents seems to be in fashion nowadays, even among bible believers and almost appears to be some sort of conditioning.

Just this last year or so, it seems there was the Evangelical Manifesto, the Creation Care group, the Common Word, the signers for a two state solution and probably many more that I missed.

I always think of Joshua and the Gibeonites, ( Josh 9) and the spiritual implications of signing covenants.

I think of it as spiritually attaching yourself to something and also a sort of conditioning where people not only make a decision, but they take action. We become desensitized to God's Word. Prior to this Joshua had great victory, but signing the covenant with these deceivers was catastrophic for Israel. He forgot to consult with God.

Scripture warns us about taking vows or oaths. Signing ones name to a covenant or manifesto would also bind one, spiritually, so personally I don't think documents are innocent even if they are not New Age/one world government ones.

Joyce
 
Susanna: Re: Hoffman Quad.
When I read your recent post that included stuff about people consulting the dead I remembered another experience with the government schools in my area. Also around the time I started to investigate what our child's government school was up to I became aware of the activities of a man who was then living in my area (in my school district). He had graduated from the same government school where my child was in the PACE "gifted" class and was my age. After college and jobs in "education" and "journalism" he was now running a NA business. He was non-profit because he called his business "education". His non-profit he called "Light". He wrote books, published them himself, re-published other books of the occult type and HE TAUGHT CLASSES FOR SCHOOL TEACHERS. He called those The Enlightened Classroom. A couple of women in the area worked for him and went around soliciting local business people to donate sums of money to his non-profit (which they wrote off, I assume) and the money was supposed to pay for local school teachers to take his classes. I identified several local schools whose employees took those classes. Local college and university teachers also took those classes. One of the women who worked for him also owned a local book store and sold his books. When I went to her store I found NA books for young children, such as one book by Elizabeth Kubler Ross. I also found a very large banner on the wall that was from a local kindergarten class and the children had signed their names to it and it thanked the book store owner for the tour of her store that their teacher had taken them on, a field trip as it were.I believe that teacher was one who had taken his ENLIGHTENED CLASSROOM class. Some of his books he co-wrote with a man (a doctor) and the books purported to be interviews with famous people after they had died and were now advising from the great beyond. I am purposely leaving the names of these men out of this but this is just a bit of the story. The man I am writing about moved down south and still comes to my area to conduct his, shall we say, seances. His contact people here are a local attorney and a local big business man. Yes, truth is stranger than fiction. You can Google his name and find his books for sale everywhere.
 
Anonymous 5:44 AM

I know exactly who you are talking about, and since you have decided not to name names, I will respect that.

However, I will say this much...LOL I didn't know that one had to consult the dead in order to learn how to properly "break wind"!!!
 
Re the Joyce discussion. Sometimes Joyce does make very important contributions.
Sometimes, too, I find her lengthiness irritating. Everybody knows, or should know, how to use the "collapse comments" feature. Let's all stop the sniping, ok?

Constance
 
I have a question...any insight is greatly appreciated.

Who do you think the woman in Rev. 17 and 18 is? Some say America, but I'm not sure about that, any opinions?
 
5/15/2009

Joyce wrote: "European governments will be submitted to Islam, and with Obama as our President, I'm not sure how much longer before US follows suit. "

Dear Joyce,

It is sooner than you think. The Hawaii legislature is following Eurabia and Londonistan by having declared an "Islam Day" in the US: a first.

There is no "Christianity Day" or "Judaism Day" but there will be an Islam Day if the Jewish governer, Linda Lingle, signs the bill.

http://tinyurl.com/oq6vho

If you could shake your obsession for converting the world, like Muslims, you could be more effective in combatting Islamic encroachment.

Len
 
CLAUDIO NARANJO AND THE "HOFFMAN PROCESS"

In an earlier post on this thread, I quoted an article at the BUDDHA, S.J. site entitled ONTOLOGICAL ODD COUPLE - and the Origins of the Fisher-Hoffman Psychic Therapy,( a.k.a. Hoffman Quadrinity Process) which reads:

The original Process, the Fisher-Hoffman Psychic Therapy (FHPT), was created by Bob Hoffman and the people he gathered around him between 1968 and 1973, most notably Claudio Naranjo.* It had to fight for a marginal existence, competing with other offerings in the world of human potential that were then beginning to appear in California.http://jesuskoan.blogspot.
com/search?q=hoffman
+institute
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Here is an excerpt from Naranjo's Wikipedia biography:

CLAUDIO NARANJO

Claudio Naranjo is a Chilean (born November 24, 1932, in Valparaíso) anthropologist and psychiatrist who is noted for his inter-disciplinary work with mind-altering substances as well as the Enneagram of Personality and Gestalt psychotherapy.

In the 1960s Dr. Naranjo worked directly with Fritz Perls, the founder of Gestalt therapy. Dr. Naranjo is considered a major figure in the Human Potential Movement and the Fourth Way movement.

Dr. Naranjo suggests that the ideal feeling enhancer will "elicit an expansion of emotional awareness without interfering with thinking." However, given the mood-congruence of thought--that is, the effects of emotional state on cognitive functions, this aspiration may in the end prove unattainable. Dr. Naranjo was the first author to publish on the use of ibogaine in psychotherapy.[1]

Dr. Naranjo is also founder of the EduSAT program for educators which organizes periodic seminars on psychotherapeutic work using the Enneagram of Personality in the US, Spain, Italy, Brazil, Germany, France and Argentina. He currently divides his time between the aforementioned countries and his home in Berkeley, California....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claudio_Naranjo
__________________________________

Here is an excerpt from Naranjo's autobiography:

.....A fellowship of the Guggenheim Foundation allowed me to return to Berkeley after a year in my home country and University - to spend a year and a half there to pursue my studies in values and, more importantly, to grow and learn while spending most of my time at the Institute of Personality Assessment and Research (IPAR), where I was welcomed as a Research Associate with precious campus privileges than included computing facilities and access to the Library.

Soon, I had the opportunity of becoming Carlos Castaneda's closest friend, of becoming Fritz Perls apprentice, and of becoming part of the early Esalen community. I also attended sensory awareness workshops with Charlotte Selver. and became part of the meetings of Leo Zeff's pioneering psychedelic therapy group, meeting every two months - to which I later would successively contribute the use of harmaline, MDA, and ibogaine.

Such was the background antecedent to the work that I undertook when I returned to Chile, in 1977, where I sought to create a program including some of the disciplines that Esalen sponsored without attempting to integrate -since various brief workshops were attended then mostly by different people, while in Chile - an Esalen-in-Chile program mentioned at the time in the Esalen Catalogue - a single stable group of students were to be exposed to an integrative curriculum.

The time of my return to Chile was also that of conducting research in psychopharmacology - as an associate with Shulgin and Sargent - as well as beginning my explorations into individual psychedelic therapy and in psychedelic group therapy. Also, this was the time when I briefly traveled to attend two pioneering conferences: the University of California LSD Conference of 1967 (where I presented my research on ibogaine-assisted psychotherapy) and a conference sponsored by the Karolinska Institute under the title of "Ethnopharmacological Search for Psychoactive Drugs".....

......In 1969 I was privileged to become a consultant for the Education Policy Research Center, created by Willis Harman at SRI. I was given the assignment of reporting as to what in the domain of psychological and spiritual techniques in vogue was applicable to education, and my report was published as an SRI monograph entitled The Unfoldment of Man. Later, it became my first book, The One Quest. This was also a time when I put in writing some of my experiences in Psychedelic therapy (later published as The Healing Journey), accepted Dr. Robert Ornstein's invitation to co-author a book on meditation, and that of Dr. Ravenna Helson to engage in a qualitative examination of the differences between books representative of the "Matriarchal" and "Patriarchal" factors discovered by her at first in her research on mathematicians and then in the works of authors writing fiction for Children. This lead to my book The Divine Child and the Hero - that would be published at a much later time.

The accidental death of my only son on the eve of Easter of 1970 seemed to put a full stop to a stage of my life. The next stage began with a pilgrimage under the guidance of a spiritual teacher called Oscar Ichazo and a spiritual retreat that culminated in "a pilgrimage within a pilgrimage", a period of isolation in the desert near Arica, at the northern end of Chile, that turned out to be for me the true beginning of spiritual experience, contemplative life and inner guidance.

After leaving Arica at the end of 1970 - after 6 months - I began teaching a group that included my mother, former gestalt trainees and friends - and this Chilean group gave me the experience and confidence necessary to launch my later work in Berkeley - beginning on Sept 1971. This began as an improvisation and became a program and originated a non-profit corporation called SAT Institute, after which I mostly involved in it as a process designer and supervisor of an activity implemented by my students and a series of guest teachers: Zalman Schachter, Dhiravamsa, Ch'u Fang Chu, Sri Harish Johari and Bob Hoffman.
...read entire article...

http://tinyurl.com/oo8lmd

As has been pointed out earlier, Willis Harman is a former president of the Institute of Noetic Sciences which funded much of the early research at the Stanford Research Insititute(SRI).
Harman was also a Senior Social Scientist at SRI for 16 years.

WILLIS HARMAN
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willis_Harman

I think it is interesting that Claudio Naranjo and Miguel Serrano were both from Chile, but so far I have not found any evidence that the two men were ever personally acquainted.
 
Regarding Claudio Naranjo, has anyone ever heard of UTOPIAN PHARMACOLOGY???


In his text for Dr Holland's illuminating Ecstasy manual, Dr Naranjo observes that the feeling-enhancers open up "...a spontaneous willingness to keep the flame of love alive in the face of pain". Dr Naranjo argues that "the gate to happiness... lies in finding another attitude toward pain". On pain itself, Dr Naranjo states: "Suffering is inextricably bound to earthly existence".


.....This may still be so; but the unfolding biotechnology revolution will shortly make suffering optional - and just conceivably obsolete. In the still-speculative post-Darwinian era of paradise engineering, an entire lifetime of E-like states is technically feasible. A minority of contemporary ethicists would further argue that such E-like states are ideologically desirable too. Whether drug-driven or genetically preordained, mental superhealth can take many guises, ecstatic or otherwise.

Utopian Pharmacology explores just one of them. On this scenario, lifelong states of empathetic bliss can become the default-setting of everyday waking consciousness.....


http://www.mdma.net/claudio-naranjo/index.html

or..."PARADISE ENGINEERING????"...

http://www.paradise-engineering.com/

see also

http://www.paradise-engineering.com/hedab.htm

_____________________________

UTOPIAN PHARMACOLOGY
http://www.mdma.net/index.html

I apologize for being off-topic, but I found this peripheral data while running a search on Jon Gordon for
JD and felt I had a moral obligation to share it.
 
Susanna: You really made me laugh with your reply. Yes! you've got the guy! He republished Ben Franklin's book. I could go on and on about what I turned up about this guy. About the same time that I wrote about I found one of his books being sold next to the cash register at a local, long-standing restaurant. It was a restaurant review book. That's when I first saw his name in writing. Soon after that I read his name in the local newspaper in an article about a New Age convention that was held several years straight in our city. He was in charge in some way. As some of you have experienced...there are times when stuff just falls in your lap.
Sometimes I visit his website to see what he's up to and when he'll be in town. Amazing that he is able to operate as a non-profit and do all this stuff.
 
DavidinBC,

Its good to hear from you. I hope this finds you and your family well. I concur, most of these techniques do nothing to build any form of team work. In many ways they oftan bring strife and division. As in my wifes case, this is being used as a method to weed out those who are thought to be bringing too much negativity to the table. She has told me her boss has basicly stated, every one needs to get on the bus or else!

Our good Lord willing, maybe a proper education in what "getting on the bus" means, will stir something within this woman. If not we will have to deal with the consequences as they come.
 
Stuff falling in your lap.
I still marvel about how when my eyes started to be opened to things people just came into my life and handed me books, pamphlets, introductions, etc. I read all day long for ages absorbing as much as I could and trying to understand how all this stuff related to other stuff. It was like a spider web. Following the dots. It was all new and so fascinating. And evil.
 
Susanna,

Excellent work! The perephrial info is of help as well, since it goes to the nature of Gordon and the company he keeps. I had found a video via youtube concerning Gordon and his conversion to christianity. In which he speaks of the bhuddist healer you referenced, I had found the whole story odd until it came to the end of the video. Pat Robertson and his 700 club were the ones promoting Gordon in the video. Which you can see here.

http://tinyurl.com/och46h

Again, thank you for the valuable research.
 
For those with 20K lying around and want to invest it in a NA school for little ones, I know who will take your money from you with a big smile on his face. Just visited the website again.
 
Jacklyn,

The woman or harlot you refer to, is the false religion. Notice she is riding a beast, or kingdom. This beast has the same characteristics the first beast of chapter 13 has, ie 7 heads, 10 horns. I believe the harlot represents the religion promoted by the second beast. One could speculate the second beast as the US, UN, or any number of nations. But I think you will find most in agreement that the harlot is the false religion.
 
I got a chuckle out of this, the first time I read through it. I thought this guys crazy! However when I looked at this again, I became concerned. First, its New York Times reporting this. Second, there isn't even a hint of the typical mocking of the man you would typically see from this type of "reputable" news source. Third, this convieniently ties everything together.

..A climate solution that's out of this world

One of the newest energy lobbyists claims he has the answer to climate change: spaceships.


The government has in its possession "extraterrestrial vehicles," lobbyist Stephen Bassett said. As in flying saucers.


Imagine the power source, he said, behind a 30-foot wide saucer that weighs the same as a tractor-trailer yet hurtles through galaxies at 20,000 miles per hour.

"What is the energy system operating that craft?" Bassett said. "They're not burning kerosene."


He added, "It eliminates oil. It eliminates coal. If it's as good as we think it is, it transforms everything."

http://tinyurl.com/ojcfwa
 
Kindergartners going on a field trip to a NA book store? Egad! I wonder if that school district claims it never has enough funding, but was able to find enough to go take students to some book store. If it was a Christian book store, you know they would never go. Although, some Christian book stores are often more like NA book stores.

Obama is continuing to demonstrate that if anything he is just a savvy politician. Says one thing, but does the exact opposite. First, he was going disclose pictures, then he decided not to, using almost the same argument as Bush. I'm totally confused. The point is that these incidents with Obama shows he isn't all that transparent as he has claimed. It creates the notion that he is untrustworthy.

Hey, JD, isn't that construction project on the I-94 overpass over Riverside a stimulus funded thing? Now it's completely closed and all I-94 traffic east and west bound have to be rerouted through Battle Creek. It's a horrific mess!
 
sniped, snip·ing, snipes
1. To shoot at individuals from a concealed place.
2. To shoot snipe.
3. To make malicious, underhand remarks or attacks.

Joyce said...

I made a number of comments on Rich's blog about the history of Muslim jihad, with articles that give quotes from the Quran. Ignore Dorothy's remarks and you will see the nature of Islam's desire to dominate.
 
Constance Cumbey said...

Re the Joyce discussion. Sometimes Joyce does make very important contributions.
Sometimes, too, I find her lengthiness irritating. Everybody knows, or should know, how to use the "collapse comments" feature. Let's all stop the sniping, ok?

The only sniping has been done by Joyce.
 
Len,

Before you know it Hawaii will be slaughtering lambs for the eid for "Ishamel" instead of roasting pigs for their luaus. The US already has a postage stamp commemorating the Eid.

With 1 billion and a half Muslims, whose countries control much of the world's the oil wealth and subsequently many other businesses now, who are educated at schools like MIT, and Harvard, whose governments pay to get them a Western education and who are committed to having the world under Islam, which is what Islam teaches, and have now invested in many of our Fortune 500 companies, our country may look very different in a few short years.

These realities should get people's attention, but many chose to close their eyes. I'm really not hostile towards people who are enslaved to Islam. I just think it's tragic that they don't know the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.. They've confused Allah with YHVH of the Scriptures. Allah is the moon god that was on the kabbah in Saudi Arabia, and was a deity among 360 deities until Mohamed had his "revelation". Most Muslims think they worship the same monotheist God as you do, except that our Scriptures were corrupted.. Well this is a long story, and I don't want to take too much space.

The story of the Quran, changes the characters, the promises, and fails to recognize God's redemption plan, through the seed of Abraham to all the families of the earth. There is only one door, and sadly Muslims have been deceived from entering the door to salvation. They are not alone, though. Many do not find the door. And someone said to Him, “Lord, are there just a few who are being saved?” And He said to them, “Strive to enter through the narrow door; for many, I tell you, will seek to enter and will not be able. Lu 13:23-24

Okay, as for your remark about me converting people....here's the truth of the matter..and I know this is going to come as a big shock to you, but I can't convert anyone...nor do I want to, especially not a Jew, like yourself. One day you and I will be in agreement about who Maschiach is...

Shabbat shalom,
Joyce
 
DavidinBC,

I believe the original construction work being done on the overpass was part of the stimulus. In case you were unaware the reason that its closed is the overpass has shifted to one side and fallen about six inches, making it unsafe to be traveled on. I am not sure if the work being done on it actually weakend the structure or if the structure was already weak and was the reason for the repair. I do find it suspicious that the entire area has been under some form of construction for the better part of a year, yet they are just now addressing the overpass.
 
JD,

Thanks for your kind words.

I got into the Hoffman and Naranjo material while I was running a search on Ken Blanchard - because of his endorsement of John Gordon's book.

I found some other mind-blowing "peripheral data," but I need to organize it before I share it.

Regards,

Susanna
 
P.S.

Dr. Claudio Naranjo is a member of the U.S. CLUB OF ROME I didn't know there was such an entity, but here it is!
__________________

Introduction:

The US Association for the Club of Rome (USA\COR) supports the vision and approach of the international Club of Rome, a futurist organization which has been working to catalyze new policy initiatives and generate concern for future generations since its founding in 1968 by the late Aurelio Peccei.

The Club of Rome seeks to promote understanding of the interdependent global system in which we all live. It also seeks to bring that understanding to the attention of policy makers and the public at large.

It is the view of The Club of Rome that the major problems facing us are of such complexity and so intertwined, that traditional institutions and policies are no longer able to cope with them. Furthermore, the gravity and urgency of these problems is not fully understood. Peccei coined the term "Global Problematique" to describe these complex intertwined issues and problems...
read more...

http://www.usacor.org/about/index.html
 
Dear Constance,

I don't find Joyce's lengthiness objectionable or irritating. What I do find objectionable is the way she treats others.

Anonymous 2:19 has posted a very good example of this. The quote isn't a once off, it's part of an intricate pattern, a kind of spider web that's been artfully woven over time you might say.
 
P.P.S.

In case you were not aware of it, Ken Blanchard is also closely associated with Rick Warren who is the founder and senior pastor of Saddleback Church,.

This comes right back to Constance's warnings about the New Age Movement that went largely unheeded within the Evangelical community.

Sara Leslie discusses Constance's warnings and mentions Ken Blanchard in her article entitled:

WHAT IS THE NEW AGE MOVEMENT?

Constance Cumbey’s original warnings went unheeded by evangelical leadership. Over the past three decades Christians began to rapidly replace the Scriptures with this mystical “New Age” worldview. These new doctrines didn’t come into the church all at once, but in small doses of leaven, often placed in books and teachings by key evangelical leaders. The effect of this leaven has been disastrous in the church.....

..... Ironically, in 2003, when Neale Donald Walsch founded his worldwide Humanity’s Team on the principle of self-declared “servant leadership,” self-professing Christian businessman Ken Blanchard also founded his worldwide “Lead Like Jesus” movement on this same principle of self-declared “servant leadership.” In their curiously similar 2003 “servant leadership” programs, both Neale Donald Walsch and Ken Blanchard had their leaders sign statements declaring themselves to be “servant leaders.”11 There is often overlapping language, common to both of their “servant leader” movements. Walsch’s Humanity’s Team Leadership Declaration encourages his “servant leaders” to “be the change” they wish to see “in the world.”12 In Blanchard’s 2006 book Lead Like Jesus he also tells his servant leaders they should “be the change” they wish to see “in others.”13 There is an obvious danger of these overlapping servant leader movements. One day soon the Christian “servant leader” may very well become indistinguishable from the New Age/New Spirituality “servant leader.” In fact, at the end of Hesse’s book Journey to the East, the figure of the author/seeker merges into and becomes indistinguishable and at “one” with the servant leader Leo. Thus Hesse’s book, along with Greenleaf’s notion of servant leadership, actually facilitate the plans of the New Age “Christ” who is trying to transform biblical Christianity into the emerging New Spirituality.
...read more...

http://www.francesandfriends.com/The-New-Age
_________________________________

More on Blanchard's "Lead Like Jesus" movement.

The Lead Like Jesus Movement is another inclusive, popular movement. According to this Movement, Jesus “modeled implementing servant leadership with everyone He met,”8 providing “a leadership model” which those in any religion or culture can follow.

The co-founders of this movement, Ken Blanchard and Phil Hodges, released their new book, Lead Like Jesus: Lessons from the Greatest Leadership Role Model of All Time, in January 2006.
.....read more.....

http://tinyurl.com/pgfaqk
_____________________________

RICK WARREN TEAMS UP WITH NEW AGE GURU KEN BLANCHARD! THIS IS A SPECIAL REPORT.

http://tinyurl.com/qsbx69
______________________________

Now given the fact that Ken Blanchard along with IONS co-founder Edgar Mitchell are BOTH "graduates" of the CHANNELED Hoffman Quadrinity Process, it certainly doesn't look to me like Constance and other concerned Christians were merely whistling past the graveyard when they went out of their way to warn the Evangelical community - and ALL Christians - about New Age encroachments into Christianity.
 
I understand they are trying to put through a treaty the I think Obama has signed, to put us into the international criminal court system, if that happens the fat lady has sung.

I didn't know until today that PM Netanyahu has been married 3 times. Says a lot about his attention span.

Brown is set up to head the EU as prez for an extended period of time so where is Solana in the mix?

Raining again in KC or Midwest keeping farmers out of fields, only 48% of corn is planted and Argentina is in a severe drought...not good for food supplies.

Bilderberg meeting is starting, heard US fall will be fast rather than slow, is this a blessing? I've heard for years we will become a 3rd world country, you?

Also think flu could be blamed, a soft war. Military is ready and has worked with local governments, call your local health dept.

Maggie
 
10 world regions on EU website:

http://ec.europa.eu/world/where/index_en.htm

***

“This role which the [EU] regions have obtained after a long struggle at European level, must now be conquered at global level,” said Martini. [Pres. of "Forum of Global Associations of Regions (FOGAR)").

http://www.theparliament.com/policy-focus/foreign-affairs/foreign-affairs-article/newsarticle/eu-regions-do-not-beg-for-funds-conference-told/

***

BBC News article, dated 5/14/09, "EU seeks to extend global reach," profiles apparent accomplishments of Dr. Solana:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8049686.stm
 
Constance,

I found and am listening to an interview with Peter Levenda.

You MUST listen to this!

Here is a brief bio:

"Peter Levenda came to our notice as the author of the powerful, compelling, and well-researched Sinister Forces. This trilogy explores the unsavory links between the Nazis, the occult, mind control and modern American politics, and asks deep and uncomfortable questions about what forces underlie and may control global events.

Peter Levenda was researching the Nazi connection to American politics and secret societies as early as the Nixon administration, and he summarized his findings in a highly regarded book called Unholy Alliance."


Here is the link to the interview:

http://www.projectcamelot.org/peter_levenda.html


Mr. Levenda is an extremely maticulous reasearcher and his work should not be overlooked in context of what you are involved in here at this time.

Please take some time to listen to this.

HK
 
The Purge in the News:

Protestant Pastor: 'I Saw Catholics Arrested for Being Catholic'

Pro-Life Catholics protesting Obama harrased and arrested

http://www.catholic.org/politics/story.php?id=33580

Assasin in Angels and Demons movie says" the Jewish G-d, allah, and the Christian G-d are all the same and all murderous."

http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archives/2009/05/my_angels_demon.html

Savvy
 
Check this out!!!

http://www.infowars.com/government-readies-youth-corps-to-take-on-vets/
 
JD thanks for the comment!

Also, according a mole in the Bilderberg meeting, they are discussing turning the IMF into a World Department of Treasurey under the United Nations.

Their rationale is that the world is in such bad economic trouble it takes a super agency to deal with it.

Order out of Chaos, same ole playbook.
 
I found this on a blog but have not yet verified it, but it looks real to me...oh my!

Secretary of the UN will ask the General Assembly to meet in special session at the earliest possible time to strip Israel of its membership!!


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Address by UN Secretary–General Ban-Ki Moon on the 60th Anniversary of Israel's Admission
(Monday, May 11, 2009 01:57:44 am)

For 60 years Israel has violated its terms of admission, and for 60 years the UN has done nothing about it. It has watched as Israel heaped misery upon misery on Palestine, and violated international law with impunity.

United Nations General Assembly,

New York, NY

11 May 2009

Mr. President

Excellencies,

Ladies and Gentlemen:

download pdf transcript

With each passing year, we come closer to our past. Every year brings with it momentous anniversaries of events that shaped our world. For example, we have recently marked the 60th anniversary of the end of World War II and of the United Nations itself. These two events, inextricably linked, form the basis of what we have come to know as the modern era, the post-war era.

For me, as Secretary–General, looking back on where the UN started and where it is now has a special importance, for I am now charged with guiding the world body through unknown and uncertain territory. “Terrorism” has long since replaced “arms control” and “détente” as the focus of international security, yet the term defies definition. One country’s terrorist is another country’s revolutionary hero. Some insist that terrorists are opposed to democracy, but we have all seen democracies behave like terrorists.

In many ways, the world today does not seem to be very removed from the barbarity of world war. The invasion of Iraq has lasted longer than World War II, and more tons of bombs have been dropped on that poor country than all the bombs dropped in that great war. The International Declaration of Human Rights, so prized and venerated by men and women of honour everywhere, stands as an impotent relic of a forgotten time because conquest, cruelty, and arrogance are still with us and growing stronger.

For all of the good the UN has accomplished since its founding, and there have been successes, the sheer magnitude of human suffering and violations of international law that have occurred and are still occurring must also be taken into account.

Few people know that Israel is the only state to be given a conditional admission. Under General Assembly Resolution 273, Israel was admitted on the condition that it grant all Palestinians the right to return to their homes and receive compensation for lost or damaged property, according to General Assembly Resolution 194 paragraph 11. Suffice to say, Israel has never lived up to these terms, and never intended to.

For 60 years Israel has violated its terms of admission, and for 60 years the UN has done nothing about it. It has watched as Israel heaped misery upon misery on Palestine, and violated international law with impunity.

After “Operation Cast Lead,” no person, no country, no democracy can look at Israel without thinking of the inhuman slaughter and destruction committed by the axis powers in World War II, though one could have said the same about numerous past massacres. What atrocities might the world have been spared if the UN had refused to admit Israel 60 years ago?

Of course, the immediate post war world was a different time. The world had just witnessed the horrors of Hitler’s racist excesses, and collective Western guilt for the Holocaust dictated attitudes toward the idea of Jewish state. Even the UN could not withstand the moral pressure.

On Nov. 29, 1947, it passed General Assembly Resolution 181, “The Partition Plan,” to carve a Jewish state out of Arab Palestine. However, it was never ratified by the Security Council, and so does not exist in law, which means the UN played no role in the creation of Israel. Nevertheless, “The Partition Plan” was utterly illegal and a violation of the UN Charter, because the UN had no right or power to take land from one people and give it to another.

If it hopes to play a meaningful role in the 21st century, the UN must do more than simply promise to enact reforms. It must search deep within its soul to redress the fundamental violations of its founding principles, which have long since ceased to have any force. That recommitment must begin now, for it was 60 years ago today, May 11, 1949, that Israel became a member of the UN. The UN cannot hope to achieve any measure of peace or justice as long as it condones war crimes, which it does every day that Israel is allowed to flout its terms of admission.

The past cannot be undone, but the future can change. As its newly elected Secretary-General, I promise that the UN will no longer be a passive enabler of genocide. Therefore, I will ask the General Assembly to meet in special session at the earliest possible time to strip Israel of its membership.

Ordinarily, a motion to expel a member nation would have to come at the recommendation of the Security Council, but this is not an ordinary motion. Because Israel is in violation of its terms of admission, it is not a member in good standing, so the UN has every right to declare General Assembly Resolution 273 null and void. Since Israel’s membership depends on adherence to that resolution, its expulsion is automatic.

Essentially, the unavoidable, lamentable truth of the last *** decades is that the UN has been a moral and political failure because it has refused to enforce its own rules and defend the Charter. Nothing the UN does can have any value as long as this illegitimate member occupies a place in the General Assembly. I want the UN to have value.

I count on your support.

Thank you very much.
 
There will come a day shortly, when Ban will be baned. He will wish it were only to the Moon!
 
Just received the following e-mail:

You know -- if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, quacks like a duck . . . you can be damn sure it's not a horse!!!

While having little interest in getting in the middle of the Obama birth issue, Paul Hollrah over at FSM did so yesterday and believes the issue can be resolved by Obama answering one simple question: What passport did he use when he was shuttling between New York, Jakarta, and Karachi?

So how did a young man who arrived in New York in early June 1981, without the price of a hotel room in his pocket, suddenly come up with the price of a round-the-world trip just a month later? And once he was on a plane, shuttling between New York, Jakarta, and Karachi, what passport was he offering when he passed through Customs and Immigration? The American people not only deserve to have answers to these questions, they must have answers. It makes the debate over Obama's citizenship a rather short and simple one.

(Inquiring minds want to know...)

Q: Did he travel to Pakistan in 1981, at age 20?
A: Yes, by his own admission.

Q: What passport did he travel under?
A: There are only three possibilities. 1. He traveled with a U.S. passport, 2) He traveled with a British passport, or 3) He traveled with an Indonesian passport.

Q: Is it possible that Obama traveled with a U.S. passport in 1981?
A: No. It is not possible. Pakistan was on the U.S. State Department's "no travel" list in 1981.

Conclusion: When Obama went to Pakistan in 1981 he was traveling either with a British passport or an Indonesian passport.

If he was traveling with a British passport, that would provide proof that he was born in Kenya on August 4, 1961, not in Hawaii as he claims. And if he was traveling with an Indonesian passport that would tend to prove that he relinquished whatever previous citizenship he held, British or American, prior to being adopted by his Indonesian step-father in 1967.

Whatever the truth of the matter, the American people need to know how he managed to become a "natural born" American citizen between 1981 and 2008.
 
FYI:

The above information on Obama was actually posted on FSM back on March 10, 2009.
 
HK,
Thanks for the heads up on that interview It is very interesting, I started reading one of his books online called "Unholy Alliance" about the Shoah and the occult workings of the Nazi regime. I don't think the entire book is online, but so far what I've read is quite good and can be found at this link:

http://books.google.com/books?id=DzdnI0bB26YC&pg=PP1&dq=peter+levenda&client=safari#PPA38,M1

http://tiny.cc/q4Gwe

Many of my family were killed in the Shoah, and I really do believe that the occult played a significant role, and continues to operate on a global scale today.

Again, the whole issue of anti-semitism is interesting because when we see God's redemption plan for Israel, it's not astonishing at all that dark forces would attack the very heart of God's plan.

We saw this in the story of the Israelite babies being killed by Pharaoh, the story of Haman, the story of Herod killing all the Jewish babies in Bethlehem after the birth of Yeshua, and it continued through more modern history.

The magic employed in Egypt at the time of Pharaoh was very dark, but who is always behind the occult? Satan.

It's very interesting to look at history from the spiritual perspective, including current history, and the further we as a society get away from God's truth, the more propensity there is to go into darkness.. It's true that it was Hitler's top echelon who were into the occult, but the society who had moved further and further from the truth of Scripture acted compliantly.

If we compare this to today, you can see this happening right before our eyes in so many different ways, it would take to long to enumerate here.

Truth of Scripture is always a restraining force to evil, so as it gets chipped away at, necessarily more doors to the occult will be open.

Joyce
 
http://turnerradionetwork.blogspot.com/2009/05/united-nations-to-oust-israel.html

http://usa.mediamonitors.net/content/view/full/62102

Two sources for the story about Israel being kicked out of the UN.
 
http://turnerradionetwork.blogspot.com/2009/05/united-nations-to-oust-israel.html

http://usa.mediamonitors.net/content/view/full/62102

Two sources for the story about Israel being kicked out of the UN.
 
Dear Constance,

You may have been more right than you realize with regard to your theory (6/5/08 blog) that the '99 NATO incursion into Serbia, under Dr. Solana's command as Sec.-Gen., was a practice run for Jerusalem.

From an FP poster:

"Now there is another factor that has to be considered and that (is that) the Antichrist in Daniel 8 grows powerful from a location north and west of Israel and out of the area of one of the four breakup empires of the Greek Empire. That narrows things down even futher.

The Eastern most country of the European part of the Roman Empire would be Greece and the Balkan countries. The Antichrist doesn't have to be born there or even live there, but it seems that according to Daniel 8 he must grow strong from that location in heading to Israel."

***

As you are no doubt aware, Constance, Serbia is a Balkan country (of which Kosovo is a province).

Thanks again for all you do.

nony
 
Daniel 8:23-25 (with reference to 3:36 post).
 
Joyce,
Yes the Nazi Party's upper echelon was
indeed saturated in the occult.
But most people don't realize that it was
also very homosexual as well. The authors
Lively and Abrams spell it all out in
great detail.

http://tinyurl.com/8pwql

And the gay manifesto written in 1990
called "After the Ball" is right out of
the same playbook, which has the
likes of Machiavelli, Hegel and
Neitzche at it's self-righteous,
and very aggressive roots.
 
This might be of interest:
http://www.newswithviews.com/Narrett/eugene148.htm

The writer appears to be an orthodox Jew, probably Hassidic, or something like it. He's big on Talmudic stuff and sages. He's an academic type. Len may be able to pigeon hole him.

He writes interesting articles which sometimes appear at News With Views.
 
This is so exciting!

Temple Corner Stone to Be Presented to the People of Israel

Thirteen Ton Temple Corner Stone to Be Presented to the People of Israel

The holy cornerstone for the Third Temple will be transported by the Temple Mount and Land of Israel Faithful Movement as they march on Jerusalem Day, 27
Iyar 5769 (May 21, 2009). It will be driven from Ammunition Hill to the Jaffa
Gate, along the western walls of the Old City to the downtown streets of Jerusalem. There it will be presented to the people of Israel and to the entire
world for the first time since the destruction of the Holy Temple in 70 CE.

Since 1967, Jerusalem Day has become one of the most important holidays in Israel. This public holiday commemorates the liberation of the Temple Mount, the
biblical city of Jerusalem, the City of David and the biblically significant areas of Judea, Samaria, Gaza, the Golan Heights and the Sinai Peninsula. All of
this happened in the Six Day War of 1967. It was then that G-d returned the Temple Mount in Jerusalem to His People Israel so that they would immediately
rebuild His Holy Temple in order to renew biblical worship there.

The Jerusalem Day march of the Temple Mount Faithful will begin at Ammunition Hill, located in northern Jerusalem. This was the site of some of the most
heroic action during the Six Day War. Intense fighting took place from bunker to bunker. Israeli soldiers sacrificed their lives in battle for the G-d of Israel,
for the Holy City of Jerusalem and for the Temple Mount. Ammunition Hill became
the symbol of both Israeli heroism and the fighting together of G-d and His people Israel in fulfillment of His prophetic Word.

The marchers will be led by a truck carrying the holy cornerstone for the Third
Temple. The cornerstone, weighing 13 tons, will be carried on the back of the truck, underneath a chuppah, and decorated with Israeli flags, the Star of David
and Temple flags. Silver trumpets reconstructed for future worship in the Third Temple will be blown throughout the march.

On the way to the Temple Mount, the marchers will stop in front of the United States Consulate. Here they will present whatever the G-d of Israel puts onto their hearts as a stance against the growing pressure from US President Barack
Obama. They will warn him about his desire to divide the Land of Israel in order to establish a foreign, terror-filled Arab state inside the sovereign Land of
Israel. (This land was given by G-d to the Jewish people alone in an eternal covenant.) The marchers will also warn him concerning his pressure to stop Jewish settlement of the Land and to remove the settlements in Judea and
Samaria. They will call out to President Obama: "Take your hands off the Land of the G-d and the people of Israel!" They will warn him of the divine judgment
from G-d as prophesied by the Prophet Joel: "For behold, in those days, and in that time, when I shall bring back the captivity of Judah and Jerusalem, I will
also gather all nations, and will bring them down in the valley of Jehosophat, and will enter into judgment with them there for my people and for my heritage
Israel, whom they have scattered among the nations, and have divided up my land"
(Joel 4:2).

When the marchers arrive at the Jaffa Gate in Jerusalem, they will blow the silver trumpets and swear their faithfulness to Jerusalem while dancing with the flags. They will then continue through the Old City and ascend to the Holy
Temple Mount. There they will swear their faithfulness and devotion to the G-dly anointing on the Faithful Movement to build the third Temple of G-d in our
lifetime.

When the marchers arrive at the Jaffa Gate in the Old City, the holy cornerstone will continue to the downtown streets of Jerusalem, where it will be presented to the people of Israel and to the entire world. This great occasion will be one of the most exciting events that Israel has experienced during this special end
time age.

Everyone is invited to participate in this exciting, historic and G-dly event. Everyone is called to actively join, come and stand together, and help the Temple Mount and Land of Israel Faithful Movement complete her major and
historic campaign to build the Temple of G-d and to bring to pass all of G-d's end time prophetic plans for Israel and the entire world.

In the G-d of Israel we trust!

The Temple Mount and Land of Israel Faithful Movement
P.O. Box 18325, 4 Aliash Street, Jerusalem, Israel
Telephone: 02.625.1112 / FAX: 02.625.1113
gershon@templemountfaithful.org
http://www.templemountfaithful.org
 
Paul or others,
You mentioned the "upper echelon" of the Nazi group being involved in the occult. I have always wondered that those involved in the occult and New Age practices at the highest levels would be the most difficult to detect since accomplishing their goals while working among the rest of mankind depends upon working under a cloak of darkness (hiding in secret places) all the while blending into the wood work and fabric of everyday life. Has anyone here experienced the deception (perhaps in their own families) only to have it later exposed? If so, how was it exposed? How might it be exposed in our own governments and leaders?
J-C
 
To Jacklyn,

Maybe exciting, MAYBE NOT. I am recalling THE ARMAGEDDON SCRIPT by Peter LeMesurier and then WORLD'S END: 2009 BY Peter Lorie. Both writers alluded to this prospective event. Both writers were preparing the world for the antichrist. Lorie is published by Jeremy Tarcher who was Marilyn Ferguson's publisher of THE AQUARIAN CONSPIRACY. This could well be a prelude to a New Age planned deception/holocaust and a final deception for both the Christian and Jewish world.

Constance
 
Joyce,

Glad you found the Peter Levenda interview valuable. I have his Trilogy and Unholy Alliance on order. His work comes highly recomended from a friend of mine who is also a researcher and author on the Nazis, and he said he buys Peter's books as fast as he writes them.

The value of someones work, like his, is that although he may not be researching it due to a theological motive, he does see something wrong, and brings a high degree of integrity and scholorship to the subject. It enables us that desire credible resources to aid us in our efforts to present this evil to others, of many persuasions. We can deflect any criticism of a "religious" bias. We can use a "secular" well researched resource to help get our point across to those we seek to educate of the evil of this, and build our bridges to the spiritual dangers of it.

HK
 
I have one of Levenda's books and have found it valuable. He does have some biases which must be regarded with discernment, but he documents and writes well.

Constance
 
HK, Constance,

Haven't figured out where he stands exactly since I only read the first couple of chapters. All I know is that he was raised Catholic from NY. He does mention the Catholic Church's role in helping Nazis get to South America, but he's not the first one to mention this.

I haven't yet gotten to the part where he explains why he believes this, or what his current affiliation is, if he has one or not.

Some of the history of the Nazis coming to us to be in NASA and CIA, I'm familiar with and certainly the occult connections, but he goes into more detail about this history.

The books seem well worth ordering.

Joyce
 
5/17/2009

Joyce wrote: "I just think it's tragic that they don't know the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.. They've confused Allah with YHVH of the Scriptures. Allah is the moon god that was on the kabbah in Saudi Arabia, and was a deity among 360 deities until Mohamed had his "revelation".

Dear Joyce,

I have had as much experience on line talking to Muslims as talking to Christians. I own two Qu'rans as well as three New Testaments.

Muslims do not worship a moon god, at least not since Muhammaud, but the same God Jews do. They consider Jesus a prophet; but not the son of God.

Just as Christianity created a cover story for its God-based religion, Islam did the same. It is just a different story. Christianity respects the Tanakh but has distorted it and superceded it with the New Testament.

Islam asserts the Tanakh has been corrupted and superceded it with the Qu'ran.

Just as the New Testament has Christianized much of the Tanakh's content, the Qu'ran contains many of the same stories as the Tanakh; Muslim style. Both Christianity and Islam revere many of the Jewish prophets with Christianity asserting that they prophesied Jesus and Islam contending that they were really Muslims.

So it is not a different god; merely a different story about the development of history under the same God.

Just as Christianity changed the weekly holy day from Sabbath to Sunday, Islam changed it to Friday. Both religions differentiated themselves from Judaism. In a sense this was fulfilment of prophecy. The Torah says that the Sabbath is only for Jews. (Exod 31:16-17)

Joyce>> One day you and I will be in agreement about who Maschiach is...

This reminds me of the Israeli joke about the time when the Messiah arrived. A Jew and a Christian, old friends, visited him to settle an argument. “Excuse me your honor,” one asks, “have you been here before?” Whatever the answer, hopefully the two can remain friends.

Have a great week,
Len
 
5/17/2009

Joyce wrote: "the holy [Third Temple] cornerstone will continue to the downtown streets of Jerusalem, where it will be presented to the people of Israel and to the entire world.

Dear Joyce,

It is much easier to fabricate a cornerstone than to lay it in its proper place. The latter is the site of the Muslim Dome of the Rock, as you undoubtedly know.

Whether these are the "end times" as you longingly contend, or whether it will take another 2000 years, is up to God.

Len
 
Jaclyn,
Someone sent me that same article yesterday and here's some verses that came to mind:

Is. 28:16 Therefore thus says the Lord GOD,
“Behold, I am laying in Zion a stone, a tested stone, A costly cornerstone for the foundation, firmly placed. He who believes in it will not be disturbed.

a few chapters earlier, Isaiah talks about a stone, that both Houses of Israel would stumble over:

Is. 8:13-17 “It is the LORD of hosts whom you should regard as holy.
And He shall be your fear,
And He shall be your dread. “Then He shall become a sanctuary; But to both the houses of Israel, a stone to strike and a rock to stumble over, And a snare and a trap for the inhabitants of Jerusalem. “Many will stumble over them, Then they will fall and be broken; They will even be snared and caught.” Bind up the testimony, seal the law among my disciples. And I will await for the LORD who is hiding His face from the house of Jacob; I will even look eagerly for Him.

Then Peter repeats:
1Pet. 2:6 For this is contained in Scripture: BEHOLD, I LAY IN ZION A CHOICE STONE, A PRECIOUS CORNER stone, AND HE WHO BELIEVES IN HIM WILL NOT BE DISAPPOINTED.”

The prophetic time table is certainly speeding up. All eyes will be on Netanyahu's visit to DC this week. Praying also, that many eyes would be open to the reality of

1Cor. 3:11-13 For no man can lay a foundation other than the one which is laid, which is Jesus Christ. Now if any man builds on the foundation with gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, straw, each man’s work will become evident; for the day will show it because it is to be revealed with fire, and the fire itself will test the quality of each man’s work.

I'm not suggesting a Temple won't be built again. I'm just praying that Israel will build on that which is eternal. Israel has already had 2 temples and neither of them are standing right now. The one that will endure will be built on the foundation of Yeshua as chief corner stone, the Prophets and the Apostles, and in that order.

1Pet. 2:7-8 This precious value, then, is for you who believe; but for those who disbelieve, “THE STONE WHICH THE BUILDERS REJECTED,
THIS BECAME THE VERY CORNER stone,” and, “A STONE OF STUMBLING AND A ROCK OF OFFENSE”; for they stumble because they are disobedient to the word, and to this doom they were also appointed.

Middle East peace must be built on the Prince of Peace.. This is why "interfaith dialogue" will never work. There is only one who can bring true and lasting peace and His kingdom has no end.

Satan is trying to mimic the real deal. From now until the end we we'll see lots of interesting things.

Joyce
 
Len,
I didn't write that. Jaclyn did. You can see my comments further down.

Joyce
 
Len,
I agree with you that the Muslims don't "think" they worship the moon god. They think they worship the God of Abraham, but the history of the kabbah and the 360 deities with the moon god, symbolized by the crescent moon is true. Mohamed wanted to have a monotheistic religion and got rid of all the other gods on the kabbah in Mecca, but he kept the moon god, so I will let our intelligent readers here decide what they think.

Mohamed also came to his wife trembling, saying he saw a demon when he had his first experience in a cave. It was she and an uncle who convinced him he saw the "Angel Gabriel".

Mohamed married an 8 year old. We have a special name when people do this..

There is the Quran and the hadiths, so the Quran is not all inclusive.

The famous Salman Rushdie who has a price on his head because he wrote a book called "Koranic Verses" brought up a little known fact, that was embarrassing to Islam, but I don't want a fatwah on my head, so I'll let you find out what that was on your own.

If I were you, I would get the 3 Qurans out of your house. The God of Israel is a jealous God.

Joyce
 
p.s. Len, Shavua tov to you too! Joyce
 
Len,

Little correction on the verse in Ex:

Ex. 31:16 -17‘So the sons of Israel shall observe the sabbath, to celebrate the sabbath throughout their generations as a perpetual covenant.’ “It is a sign between Me and the sons of Israel forever; for in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, but on the seventh day He ceased from labor, and was refreshed.”

Jews are 2 1/2 tribes..but more importantly, lets look at what the Prophet Isaiah says:

Sorry for the long post, but this is important for the Gentile believers on the blog:

Is. 56:2 “How blessed is the man who does this,
And the son of man who btakes hold of it;
Who ckeeps from profaning the sabbath,
And keeps his hand from doing any evil.”
Is. 56:3 Let not the foreigner who has joined himself to the LORD say,
“The LORD will surely separate me from His people.”
Nor let the eunuch say, “Behold, I am a dry tree.”
Is. 56:4 For thus says the LORD,
“To the eunuchs who keep My sabbaths,
And choose what pleases Me,
And hold fast My covenant,
Is. 56:5 To them I will give in My house and within My walls a memorial,
And a name better than that of sons and daughters;
I will give them an everlasting cname which dwill not be cut off.
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EMPAHSIS MINE:
Is. 56:6 “Also the foreigners who join themselves to the LORD,
To minister to Him, and to love the name of the LORD,
To be His servants, every one who keeps from profaning the sabbath
And holds fast My covenant;
Is. 56:7 Even those I will bring to My holy mountain
And make them joyful in My house of prayer.

Their burnt offerings and their sacrifices will be acceptable on dMy altar;
For My house will be called a house of prayer for all the peoples.”

*************************************************

I hope some of the serious Bible students on the blog will take a careful look at this verse.

Sabbath was first given at the creation. It's the fourth commandment, and it has never been cancelled.

The Apostles still worshipped on Sabbath:

Acts 16:13 And on the Sabbath day we went outside the gate to a riverside, where we were supposing that there would be a place of prayer; and we sat down and began speaking to the women who had assembled.

It was the Council of Nicea in 325 AD that came up with the idea that the Sabbath command was annulled.

http://www.triumphpro.com/sabvs.htm

http://tiny.cc/GegNc



Joyce
 
p.s. I'm not recommending Dankenbring's theology, but historically speaking, he is right.
Joyce
 
I guess I should have seen this coming. Still I had to blink several times to be sure I was reading correctly. This is in addition to the already proclaimed April 22 "Earth Day".

United Nations proclaims
22 April "INTERNATIONAL MOTHER EARTH DAY"

"Sixty-third General Assembly

Assembly President Miguel d’Escoto Brockmann thanked Bolivia for having taken the lead in bringing the resolution to the Assembly and added that, by declaring the International Day, Member States recognized their responsibility, as called for in the Rio Declaration, adopted at the 1992 United Nations Conference on Environment and Development (UNCED), also known as the “Earth Summit”, to promote harmony with nature and the planet to achieve a just balance among economic, social and environmental needs of the present and future generations of humanity."...
'''"Continuing, President Morales said that, by proclaiming the International Day, United Nations Member States now had the opportunity to begin laying out a DECLARATION ON THE RIGHTS OF MOTHER EARTH. (emphasis mine) Such a Charter must enshrine the right to life for all living things; right to regeneration of the planet’s biocapacity; right to a clean life -- for Mother Earth to live free of contamination and pollution; and the right to harmony and balance among and between all things."

http://tinyurl.com/pmd8t7

http://portal.unesco.org/science/en/ev.php-URL_ID=7632&URL_DO=DO_PRINTPAGE&URL_
SECTION=201.html
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"Urging the world community to accept a set of principles that would protect the planet's resources and "right to life," the Bolivian president said society cannot put its own narrow interests above those of the Earth.

"Not just human beings have rights, but the planet has rights," he said. "What's happening with climate change is that the rights of Mother Earth are not being respected."

In laying out the fourth principle, Morales said: "We are all interdependent. We now must begin to realise that the Earth does not belong to us," he said. "It's the other way around. We belong to the Earth."

http://tinyurl.com/pgaezl

http://ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=46598

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My mind is racing a little as I'm trying to recollect everything I've ever read about The Earth Charter, The Ark of Hope, Gaia, goddess worship, the roles played by Maurice Strong, and Mikhail Gorbachev.

I have not read a better summation regarding the Earth Charter than this article written by Terry Melanson titled,
" The Earth Charter and the Ark
of the Gaia Covenant"

http://tinyurl.com/owg7j6

http://www.realnews247.com/un_earth_
charter_&
_meditation_room.htm
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Home Page for 'The Ark of Hope'

http://www.arkofhope.org/
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Homepage for The Earth Charter

http://tinyurl.com/q6zjjg

http://www.earthcharterinaction.org/content/

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"God is our refuge and strength, a very present help in trouble. Therefore will not we fear, though the earth be removed, and though the mountains be carried into the midst of the sea; ...The LORD of hosts is with us; the God of Jacob is our refuge. Selah
Psalm 46

-Rudi
 
5/17/2009

Anon 6:00 pm wrote "This might be of interest:
http://www.newswithviews.com/Narrett/eugene148.htm

The writer appears to be an orthodox Jew, probably Hassidic, or something like it. He's big on Talmudic stuff and sages. He's an academic type. Len may be able to pigeon hole him.

I never heard of Eugene Narrett but you piqued my curiosity so I checked him out.

Not at News With Views but on his own blog! He writes informatively and incisively about Israel's predicament with knowledge of Judaism, history and literature. I was paqrticularly taken with his review of Hermann Melville's "Billy Budd" which he analogizes to Israel's predicament.

Before reading it you should know that Abraham's son Ishmael, by Sarah's handmaid Hagar the Egyptian, is a symbol for Islam. Isaac's son and Jacob's brother, Esau also know as Edom, is a rabbinic classical symbol for Christianity.

Narrett's thesis is that the West is in decline, aided and abbetted by the EU's long-term surrender to Islam. Narrett's analogy, symbolized in Billy Budd, is that Ishmael/Islam is fighting his brother Isaac, while Esau/Christianity/EU is fighting his twin, Jacob.

Ishmael and Esau are in a developing alliance against Israel/Judaism.

Here is the link:
http://tinyurl.com/q2uoly

NArrett has also writtes several highly-reviewed books on this topic. His most recent (2006) is "Israel and The Endtimes: Writings on the Logic and Surface Turbulence of History."

http://tinyurl.com/qvcx7s

Here is a product description followed by a good review of it:

Product Description
The ethics, laws, origins and hopes of Western civilization are rooted in the history of the Jewish people and their unified way of life, Judaism. Why then has Western civilization for so long abused the Jewish people and, since 1920, their attempts to rebuild and develop their ancient nation? Why especially now when Israel serves as the West's bulwark against terror, do western elites facilitate the destruction of Jewish sovereignty and of Jewish life in its holy places, hills, farms, and towns? Eugene Narrett's remarkable study looks to the composite roots of western civilization for perspective on these questions. His knowledge of ancient and modern history and his remarkable ability to integrate disciplines produce startling analysis and answers to the most pressing issues of our time.

6 of 6 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars The Penultimate of Days, October 4, 2006
By MozesonIsaac "edenicsorg" (Teaneck, NJ USA)

Boston University and Cambridge College Professor Eugene Narrett's essays in this collection, as in "Gathered against Jerusalem" (2000) and "Israel Awakened" (2001), are written in sculptured prose, with marbling from rich veins of literature: Greek myths to Hawthorne and Orwell. His messages about the threat of Islam and the threat to Israel are astoundingly clear. The West in on a runaway train to suicide and apocalypse. And Bush and the Neocons are barely applying the brakes.

The essays in this latest collection are not just different for treating events up to winter, 2006: notably, the failed War on Terror, the Gaza Disengagement, the Paris "intifada," and the anti-religious Israeli "Cossacks" brutality in the Amona settlement. The literary allusions get far more ominous and biblical. The ancient cast of characters is recast so that America is Asshur, the EU is Edom, Ishmael is Islam and the dangerous wild card is Persia/Iran.

Narrett could not know then that a new Lebanon war would make it impossible for Olmert and his Potomac puppetmasters to
further squeeze the Jewish State behind tightening ghetto walls. Then again, the nations of the world (in the form of Unifil) are at Israel's northern border, too much like the Armageddon scenario that Narrett paints.
Miss this book at your own risk.

End review!

I don't know if Narrett is Orthodox but given his evident Judaic sophistication it would not surprise me. Thanks for calling him to my attention.

Have a great week,
Len
 
Len: I think if you read some more at his site you'll notice the Hassidic stuff.
 
CONSTANCE/DOUG: HAVE YOU SEEN THIS?

Military to use Burton as a training ground for a week
Posted by Bryn Mickle | The Flint Journal May 13, 2009 07:15AM
Boeing Boeing MH-6 "Little Bird" helicopters may be seen over Burton in the coming days.

BURTON, Michigan -- The black helicopter crowd's worst fears of a New World Order are coming true.

The military is invading Burton.

But it promises to only stay a week.

The U.S. Special Operations Command is using Burton as a training ground for military exercises.

Sometime over the next day or two, a military spokesman said residents may see low-flying helicopters buzzing overhead.

People may even catch a glimpse of special operations forces, but the goal is to keep the exercise as low key as possible.

"Chances are that most people won't see them," said Naval Lt. Nathan C. Potter, a spokesman for the exercises.

Citing safety and security concerns, the military is being mum on details about the exercises, including the size of the force being trained.

There's also no word on where exactly the operations will take place, although Potter said soldiers could be working in neighborhoods and industrial sites.

"It will be very sporadic," he said.

The goal is to prepare troops for unfamiliar urban areas.

Once they are finished in Burton, Potter said the soldiers will be ready to be deployed overseas.

The military approached Burton officials with the request to train there about three months ago, said Burton police Lt. Tom Osterholzer.

Although officials are being cautious about the details, Osterholzer said they opted to notify the public to allay any fears once people start seeing helicopters.

Burton and Flint police will provide traffic control for some of the exercises and 911 operators at the Flint and Genesee County dispatch centers have been alerted in case of panicked calls.

"It's an honor to help these guys," said Osterholzer.

Not everyone is as enthusiastic.

"It scares me," said Jennie Moench of Swartz Creek.

Moench questioned whether the military is getting ready for action in a new theater outside of Iraq and Pakistan and wonders why it chose Burton.

"Would you see this happening in a wealthy city?" said Moench, a member of the area Peace Triangle group that has protested the U.S. presence in Iraq for about seven years.

But Burton resident Leroy Cronkright believes the city is providing an important service to the military.

"Nowadays, almost everything (soldiers do) is cities and towns," said Cronkright, a Navy veteran who served in the 1960s.

Sonia Flagg said she would have been caught offguard by the sight of helicopters over her yard, but likes the idea.

"Somebody's got to do it, so why not Burton," said Flagg.

"Young kids will love watching the helicopters fly around and everything."

Potter said the military appreciates the local help and said such training exercises are critical to the ability of soldiers to operate overseas.

Similar operations have been run in other cities around the nation.

"We're not trying to cause a disturbance," said Potter.

© 2009 Michigan Live. All Rights Reserved.
 
PETER LEVANDA

His Wikipedia biography suggests something untoward.

I would not rely on Wikipedia as a sole source of information about anyone, but a little bit of digging reveals that Levanda may have a lot in common with Aleister Crowley. Caveat emptor.
 
Well, let me clarify my last post that I prefaced with "this is so exciting". I only find it exciting because, in my opinion, it signifies their resolve to resume their Temple and Temple sacrifice. We know sacrifice must be resumed at some point and they are demonstrating steel in their spines towards this end, it's just one more sign of the times.

I don't believe there is time for another Temple to be built, especially one with a 13 ton cornerstone! And yes, Jesus is the cornerstone over which they stumbled...they don't know that yet, but they will! At least some will.

Constance, I think you were saying (correct me if I'm wrong) it also demonstrates that a tremendous amount of suffering is also at hand. I understand that too. I also understand it means that He will soon put an end to all suffering for all time.

I have come to understand our natural tendency towards utter depravity, and I don't think we would be able to maintain our sanity if we knew the level of suffering endured by billions all over the world, year after year after year. Creation is groaning for His return.

We live in sobering and serious times, and I have cried more than a few tears. One night I even woke up with a full blown panic attack, this was not from God but I understand what we are up against.

Constance, I am grateful to God for people like you, your a faithful watchman! I am doing all I can to prepare spiritually and I am working and witnessing with a new fervency, for the night is soon coming.

All these things must come to pass, Jesus said, look up, your redemption is drawing nigh!
 
Len,

You are absolutely correct in saying
" you should know that Abraham's son Ishmael, by Sarah's handmaid Hagar the Egyptian, is a symbol for Islam."Please correct me if my information is wrong, Len, but
I have an in-law who is a Muslim and he looks upon himself as a spiritual descendant of Ishmael to whom God also promised that He would make of Ishmael "a great nation"( Gen 17:20 ) - though NOT in the same way as Jacob whose name was changed to Israel.

My in-law professes belief in "the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac and the God of Jacob."

He doesn't THINK he believes in the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac and the God of Jacob.

HE KNOWS HE BELIEVES IN THE GOD OF ABRAHAM THE GOD OF ISAAC AND THE GOD OF JACOB.

If anyone were to tell him that he merely THINKS he believes in the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac and the God of Jacob, he would laugh him/her to scorn!

Whatever pagan deity Arabs may have believed in before the establishment of Islam, it is certainly NOT the God they worship now!
 
Jaclyn,
I wasn't criticizing your comments. It is an interesting prophetic event. Some think Messiah will build the Temple, others the anti-messiah. Ezekiel's Temple, is clearly a Millennial Temple.

There could well be a political figure who makes some "peace plan" that will allow Jews to recommence the sacrifices for a short time.

Others have speculated that it could be an altar which allows the Abomination of Desolation to stop the sacrifice mid stream. Others believe that these prophecies have all been fulfilled already and there is no millennium.

I do believe in a Millennial kingdom ( 1000 year reign of Yeshua) until the New Jerusalem comes down from above ( 8th day).

Personally, it seems very feasible to me that some kind of bizarre comprise might be arrived at to satisfy both the Jews and the Muslims as per, someone like Heinrich Eliyahu Benedikt ( not necessarily his exact idea, but there are all kinds of similar ideas floating around). Hebrew University has people working on ideas for Jerusalem, there's another group funded by Ford Foundation that has some ideas.

It seems like, in order to pull off a peace plan, even if it's only temporary, it will have to have something for everyone. There is no way that Israel is going to give up Jerusalem. That is like giving up on the idea of Israel, because Jerusalem is the most important place.

Susanna,
Here's the promise to Ishmael:

Gen. 17:20 “As for Ishmael, I have heard you; behold, I will bless him, and awill make him fruitful and will multiply him exceedingly. bHe shall become the father of twelve princes, and I will make him a great nation.

When Abraham goes to sacrifice Isaac, look what God says:

Gen. 22:12 He said, “Do not stretch out your hand against the lad, and do nothing to him; for now aI know that you 1fear God, since you have not withheld byour son, your only son, from Me.”

He calls Isaac, Abraham's only son, because Isaac is the son of promise, through whom all the families of the earth will be blessed.

Gen. 22:18 “In your seed all the nations of the earth shall be blessed, because you have bobeyed My voice.”

Speaking of Yeshua right after the outpouring of the Ruach Hakodesh, on Shavuot when all the diaspora Jews and godfearers were in Jerusalem, Peter says this:

Acts 3:25-26 “It is you who are athe sons of the prophets and of the bcovenant which God 1made with your fathers, saying to Abraham, ‘cAND IN YOUR SEED ALL THE FAMILIES OF THE EARTH SHALL BE BLESSED.’ “For you first, God braised up His 1Servant and sent Him to bless you by turning every one of you from your wicked ways.”

The blessing that was to come through Abraham was Yeshua, Himself, who would bless all the families of the earth. It was in this sense that Isaac, the son of promise would bring forth the blessing to all the nations. .

Tov, which means good in Hebrew, is when the creation brings for that which it was created to do.. Yeshua is very good, because He is the promised seed who would redeem all the families of the earth.

The descendants of Ishmael, whether they are Muslim or not, must come into the kingdom the same way as everyone else, through the promised Son.. There are no other doors. The physical blessings to Ishmael can be seen in the size and riches of the Arab nations.. ( I do mean Arab, because Phoenicians and Berbers and Assyrians are not Ishmaelites contrary to what many think).

The spiritual blessing of forgiveness of being freed from ones sins can ONLY come through Yeshua.

The great confusion of the interfaith movement today, confuses this issue and leaves people thinking that Muslims can come in by another door. This is simply not true and contrary to the Scriptures. The very sad fact is that even Christians believe this because they have been convinced that there is some other way.

If there was some other way, the Son of Glory would not have had to shed His blood.

Joyce
 
p.s. there are descendants of Ishmael who believe in who were never Muslim. There are also descendants of Ishmael who come from Muslim families and now believe in Yeshua.

As I wrote on Rich's blog, there will be true and lasting peace one day, but it will not be through the politicians or New Agers, it will be in Messiah:

Is. 19:24-25 In that day Israel will be the third party with Egypt and Assyria, a blessing in the midst of the earth, whom the LORD of hosts has blessed, saying, “Blessed is Egypt My people, and Assyria the work of My hands, and Israel My inheritance.”

Joyce
 
Susanna,
One more point on this remark:

"If anyone were to tell him that he merely THINKS he believes in the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac and the God of Jacob, he would laugh him/her to scorn!"

They believe in "Isa" too, not Yesua ( the Arabaic name for Yeshua) but their Isa was not crucified, was not resurrected. He was born to a virigin, however, but they do not believe in the atoning work of Yeshua at the cross.

Now, I ask you, do they still believe in the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob?

They also believe that Ishmael, not Isaac was brought to be sacrificed.. a little oversight perhaps on their part...

We can say we believe in the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, but if He is not the God described in the Scriptures, then we have destroyed the character, reputation of God. This is forbidden in Torah, and in the rest of the Scriptures too.

This is why we have to be careful with the texts of Scripture because deception can often be subtile.

Blessings,
Joyce
 
One World Church:

ZAO - Don`t drink the water!

From Deception Bytes

http://www.deceptionbytes.com
 
Susanna,

One more thing. The Great Commission, Go you therefore and make disciples of ALL Nations, meant Muslim nations too. If God did not want Muslims to know about Yeshua, Yeshua would have said, all except the Arab nations.. but as it stands He said All..

...from Jerusalem, to Judea, to Samaria to the ends of the earth..
Joyce
 
Susanna 10:06 A.M.

Matthew 7:22-23

Many will say to me in that day, My master,my master,have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works

And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity
 
Joyce, there is no offense. I wanted to clarify my post as I realized it may have seemed as if I was treating all these events as if I'm watching an action packed thriller movie.

I have to say though, I am astonished when I see God's decreed words, possibly the same vision Daniel saw unfold under our noses. I also know that what he saw was so terrifying he was pale, weak, bedridden and unable to eat. These are definitely sobering times, but they also declare the might and majesty of our Heavenly Father who promised to never leave us nor forsake us, He will be with us even to end of the world. Amen!
 
5/17/2009

Anon 6:37 AM wrote: "Len: I think if you read some more at his site you'll notice the Hassidic stuff."

If you could link me I would appreciate it. There is lots to read.

Not that it would affect the content of his ideas! Also, there are many Hassidic sects.

Len
 
Len: I have not been on his site for a while. As for there being many Hassidic sects I didn't know that. I do know about the Schneerson folks. And I know about the Noahide Laws. America's Presidents and elected law-makers have actually voted on matters re: Noahide Laws. Amazing. And they claim we have separation between religion and state. E.N. linked to Noahide stuff at one time. Maybe still does. Since many Jews consider Christians to be polytheistic for believing Jesus of Nazareth to be God (Son of God) and some advocate extreme punishment for that belief I'd just as soon not be put under Noahide Laws.
 
5/17/2009

To Anon 1:35 pm

From Wikipedia:

List of Hasidic dynasties

The Holocaust brought final destruction to all chasidic centers of Eastern Europe. Most survivors moved eventually to Israel or to America, and established new centers of Hasidic Judaism modeled after their original communities.[citation needed]

Some of the larger and more well-known chasidic sects that still exist include Belz, Bobov, Breslov, Ger, Lubavitch (Chabad), Munkacs, Puppa, Sanz (Klausenburg), Satmar, Skver, Spinka and Vizhnitz.[citation needed]

The largest groups in Israel today are Ger, Chabad, Belz, Satmar, Breslov, Vizhnitz, Seret-Vizhnitz, Nadvorna, and Toldos Aharon. In the United States the largest are Satmar, Bobov, and Lubavitch all centered in Brooklyn, New York (Reb Aharon's Satmar camp is centered in Kiryas Joel, while Reb Zalman is Williamsburg) and Skver (New Square) in Rockland County, New York. Large chasidic communities also exist in the Outremont borough of Montreal; Pikesville and Northwest Baltimore, Maryland; Lakewood, NJ, Toronto; London; Antwerp; Melbourne; the Fairfax neighborhood of Los Angeles; Sherman Park neighborhood of Milwaukee, and St. Louis Park, a Minneapolis suburb.[citation needed]

There are probably close to half a million Hasidic Jews worldwide. The two main Hasidic communities in the United States are located in New York City and Los Angeles. In New York City the neighborhoods include Borough Park, Williamsburg, and Crown Heights in the borough of Brooklyn, and Monsey, Monroe, and New Square which are farther upstate. In Los Angeles the neighborhoods include Hancock Park, La Brea-Beverly, the Fairfax District, Valley Village and the Pico-Robertson area. There is also a sizable and growing Hasidic community in Lakewood, New Jersey, which was once a center of mainly Litvish and Yeshiva Orthodox Jews. Outside of the United States the largest Hasidic community is in Israel, located mainly in Jerusalem and its adjacent areas, such as Ramat Beit Shemesh and also the religious city of Bnei Brak. The vast majority of Hasidic Jews live either in the United States or Israel but there exist large communities in Canada (Montreal), Britain (mostly in Stamford Hill) and Belgium (Antwerp) also. Hasidic Jews are known for having large families and as a result are experiencing tremendous growth.[citation needed]

End Wiki!

Anyway, you don't have to worry for a while because you cannot be prosecuted absent a theocracy and Sanhedrin. Besides, the majority of Jews do not consider normative Christianity to be idolatry.

Regards,
Len
 
Joyce,

Apparently you didn't read my post very carefully.

There is a "disconnect" between the direction in which you obviously want to steer this discussion and the specific point I was actually addressing.

The issue of whether or not Muslims are included (they are)in the promises we Christians believe were made to Abraham concerning the salvation won by Jesus Christ and their acceptance or rejection of Jesus as the Messiah is NOT the issue I was addressing.

I was addressing your ERRONEOUS statement:

"I just think it's tragic that they don't know the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.. They've confused Allah with YHVH of the Scriptures. Allah is the moon god that was on the kabbah in Saudi Arabia, and was a deity among 360 deities until Mohamed had his "revelation".In the English-speaking world, the word "God" is used by everyone who professes belief in a Supreme Being whether that "God" be Abrahamic or otherwise. It is the same with the Arab-speaking world in which the term "Allah" simply means "God" in the same sense - whether the reference is Abrahamic or non-Abrahamic.

Allah (Arabic: الله‎, Allāh, IPA: [ʔalˤːɑːh] ( listen)) is the standard Arabic word for God. While the term is best known in the West for its use by Muslims as a reference to God, it is used by Arabic-speakers of all Abrahamic faiths, including Christians and Jews, in reference to "God". The term was also used by pagan Meccans as a reference to the creator-god, possibly the supreme deity in pre-Islamic Arabia.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allah

Apart from that, I am not going to get into it further except to say that it is just plain WRONG to say that the "Allah" Muslims worship NOW is a "pagan moon deity."

I already made the distinction in my post (for all to see) with regard to the "Allah" the descendants of Ishmael may have worshipped BEFORE the establishment of Islam.

This is why I am saying that you could not have read my post very carefully

I am not questioning your sincerity or your good intentions, but we have had this little discussion before, and it is obvious that you are relying on the word of others who are equally clueless about what Muslims actually believe.

Again, for anyone to presume to say that the Muslims merely THINK they believe in the God of Abraham and the God of Isaac and the God of Jacob, and that "Allah" actually refers to some "pagan moon god" is to reveal his/her own cluelessness with regard to what Islam actually teaches.

And one more point for you.

You said:

We can say we believe in the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, but if He is not the God described in the Scriptures, then we have destroyed the character, reputation of God. This is forbidden in Torah, and in the rest of the Scriptures too.One of the reasons why the Muslims do not regularly use the name YHVH is because as the most sacred name of God, it was revered to the point that it was seldom uttered.

The one true God revealed Himself to Abraham and chose the children (descendants) of Abraham as His own. The first Christians were Jews, and Gentile Christians subsequently came into the fold. It was God Himself who declared that His proper name was Yahweh.

Being a Jewish capitol offense to misuse the name of God, Yahweh became by the time of the return from the Babylonian Captivity a non-utterable name (Zechariah 24:16) which was denoted in writings as YHWH (old Hebrew has no vowels); and, when this tetragrammaton was read in Hebrew, it was spoken as Adonai.

For this reason, when a person explicitly says that he believes in the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac and the God of Jacob, as do Muslims, THIS IN ITSELF IS THE GOD DESCRIBED IN THE SCRIPTURES since there IS only ONE ABRAHAM, ONE ISAAC and ONE JACOB......just as there is one true God.

So unless you are secretly privy to the existence of another Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, it seems to me that it is NOT the Muslims who are "destroying the reputation of God" in terms of the use of deceptive semantics.
 
Shem 1777

Luke 18:9-14

And to some who trusted in themselves as just, and despised others, he spoke also this parable: Two men went up into the temple to pray: the one a Pharisee, and the other a publican.

The Pharisee standing, prayed thus with himself: O God, I give thee thanks that I am not as the rest of men, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, as also is this publican. I fast twice in a week: I give tithes of all that I possess.

And the publican, standing afar off, would not so much as lift up his eyes towards heaven; but struck his breast, saying: O god, be merciful to me a sinner.

I say to you, this man went down into his house justified rather than the other: because every one that exalteth himself, shall be humbled: and he that humbleth himself, shall be exalted.

 
Susanna,

Well there is a lot more to God's name, than just the pronunciation. In hebraic thought, a name is one's reputation too. We can pronounce God's name correctly, or not pronounce it like Jews do when they substitute the vowels with a dash, but that is not the only aspect of ones name.

God, the God of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, and His reputation and His character is fully founded on His Word, the Torah.. the Prophets, the Writings and as you and I believe ( I presume we can agree on this) the Apostolic Scriptures.

The Muslims do not believe in your Scriptures, your God of Israel or your Yeshua (Jesus)...so just saying that they believe in the God of Abraham ( I've yet to hear them say they believe in the God of Israel or Jacob, but maybe some do) is not believing in the God of the Scriptures...I'm sorry to say.

Allah can be a generic name for god, just as elohim can be a generic name for god in the Hebrew, but in the case of Islam because of the history of Mohammed and his family tribe who worshipped the moon god, the Allah of Islam, represented on the minerets of mosques all over the world is the ( whether Muslims realize it or not) the moon god.

Since the God of Abraham never appeared to Mohammed to give him "a new revelation" because the Bible says there is NO MORE revelation, we can safely assume whoever appeared to Mohammed was not representing the God of the Bible..

Now, I am not going to speculate about who appeared to Mohammed and told him to go and take his son's wife and have his son divorce his wife so Mohammed could marry her, but I assume that it wasn't the same God that I worship because He would never tell us to do something like that...

You can't just go by the name "God" or "Allah" or even "Jesus" .. You have to look at the character of this god being represented and see if it corresponds with the God that we know through the Scriptures..

I am not at all against Muslims. The fact is, if someone is born in Saudi Arabia, they don't have much choice.. They are born Muslim and unless they want to get their head cut off, guess what.. They have to stay Muslim. There is NO FREE WILL in Saudi Arabia. Woman are forced to be covered in public. An 8 year old was recently forced to marry a man.. There are religious police that beat woman if a part of them is not covered, and on and on.

There are no churches, no synagogues, in Saudi Arabia.. .but in America we have mosques, Islamic study programs., CAIR, etc.

I am not against the people ... on the contrary, I pray for them and share the truth with them whenever I am in a taxi with a Muslim driver or any other occasion that I have. Muslims are human beings.. who need a revelation of Yeshua.

So, again, I repeat, it is deception to say that the god of Islam is the God of the Bible. They don't believe our Scriptures. They think our Scriptures have been corrupted.. to which I say, nonsense. . Revelations says, that if anyone adds to this book, the curses in it will be added..

They believe the promised Holy Spirit ( Ruach HaKodesh) was a reference to Mohammed. I believe the promised comforter is just that the Ruach HaKodesh. They believe Mohammed is the final prophet.. I don't believe there were any more prophets after Yeshua came..

God is drawing Muslims to Himself in our day, and you might listen to what some of them say... you might be surprised.

Joyce
 
Paul,
Thanks for the link. It's interesting. I think I have heard this before.. and it fits.. I think Levenda was getting into this in his book, but I haven't gotten much further reading it.
Joyce
 
Jaclyn,
Amen to that!
Joyce
 
5/17/2009

Susanna wrote: "Please correct me if my information is wrong, Len, but I have an in-law who is a Muslim and he looks upon himself as a spiritual descendant of Ishmael to whom God also promised that He would make of Ishmael "a great nation"( Gen 17:20 ) -

Dear Susanna,

You are right as usual:-) Inh fact, when Muslims used to tell me that the Tanakh was corrupted I responded that we did a lousy jobe of it because we left this verse in.

Len
 
Dear Len,


Thanks. :-)


Regards,
Susanna
 
Susanna 3:35 P.M.

O God, be merciful to me a sinner.

AMEN!!!!!
 
5/17/2009

Muslim Persecution of Christians
By: Robert Spencer
FrontPageMagazine.com | Friday, May 15, 2009

Christianity, born in the Middle East, is in danger of losing its two millenia-long presence there. If that notion sounds alarmist to Western ears, it is acknowledged by Middle Easterners as a growing likelihood.

“I fear the extinction of Christianity in Iraq and the Middle East,” said the Roman Catholic Archbishop of Baghdad, Jean Benjamin Sleiman, as Pope Benedict XVI visited that troubled region this week. The Lebanese Christian columnist Sarkis Naoum added: “Unless there is a turn toward secularism in the Arab world, I don’t think there is a future for Christians here.” In 1909, the Middle East was 20 percent Christian; one hundred years later, that percentage has fallen to five percent.

This precipitous decline is chronicled and explained in a detailed historical video entitled Muslim Persecution of Christians, produced by the Terrorism Awareness Project. The video, which is embedded below, recounts contemporary examples of anti-Christian violence, and the Islamic theology that justifies and intensifies it.

http://tinyurl.com/rd3xvu
 
Shem1777 7:21 P.M.

Ditto!


AMEN!!!!
 
VATICAN LUMINARY: OBAMA'S ABORTION STANCE DESTRUCTIVE

Thursday, May 14, 2009

A Belgian human rights expert who is a member of three Vatican academies warns strongly that President Barack Obama’s pro-abortion stance threatens to lead the United States into totalitarianism.


President Obama's enacting policies that threaten the lives of the unborn is “dragging the law into a process of regression that is altering the democratic nature of the society that elected him," Monsignor Michel Schooyans said during a prestigious Vatican conference at the Pontifical Academy for Social Sciences this month.


A society that calls itself democratic but whose leaders are invoking subjective "new rights" that permit the elimination of some categories of human beings “is a society that has already set out on the road of totalitarianism,” Schooyans said.


He also predicted that the administration’s pro-abortion position will lead “sooner or later” to abortion's becoming a human right at the United Nations.


The Belgian priest predicted there will “no longer be any room in the law for conscientious objection” on pro-life issues, and warned that other subjective "new rights" would become part of the government’s program, such as “euthanasia, homosexuality, unilateral divorce, and drug use.”


Schooyans, 79, a retired philosophy and theology professor at the Catholic University of Louvain in Belgium and author of many books, including one that warns of the totalitarian tendencies of liberalism, also criticised Obama’s pro-abortion “messianism” that, he said, proclaims the extinction of the moral principles upon which the United States was founded.


“What matters now is the will of the president,” Schooyans said. “According to his own words, the president no longer needs to make reference to the moral and religious traditions of humanity. His will is the source of law.”


At the conference, which was attended by various dignitaries including government ministers, a Nobel Laureate, a cardinal and other human rights experts, the Belgian professor also castigated Tony Blair’s Faith Foundation, saying its goals dangerously threaten fundamental human rights and religious freedom.


He argued that the foundation, which Blair founded in 2008 to promote respect and understanding about the world's major religions, actually aims to remake these religions and use them to expand "new rights."The result, he said, would reduce those religions “to the same common denominator, which means stripping them of their identity.”


The foundation’s intellectual base is “impregnated with New Age thinking,” he said. Its support for a Global Ethic Declaration, an initiative strongly supported by dissenting Swiss Catholic theologian Hans Kueng “cannot be realized except at the price of the sacrifice of religious freedom, of the imposition of a "politically correct" interpretation of the sacred Scriptures.”


Schooyans also criticized the former British prime minister, who joined the Catholic Church in 2007, for suggesting in a recent magazine interview that the Pope should “rethink” his approach to homosexuality. “Is he Catholic?” he asked, adding that Blair “does not believe in the authority of the Pope.”
...read entire article...

http://tinyurl.com/qaar5q
 
Rudi,
This is apropos to Earth Charter.. Damanhur endorsed Earth Charter, as well as Findhorn. I thought you would find this article from Damanhur's magazine
Enlightenment Next, called "Atlantis in the Mountains in Italy". Interesting to note that the space shuttle that just took off recently was named Atlantis, and the article refers to Francis Bacon, who was thought to be a Rosecrucian and was looking at America as the New Atlantis..

http://www.enlightennext.org/magazine/j36/damanhur.asp?page=1

See films, called Secret Mysteries of America's Beginnings: The New Atlantis. I believe this is the one that talks about Francis Bacon.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8143423336750529196&ei=9O8QSsWgI9Xf

http://tiny.cc/nV9b9

and Riddles in Stone.. Eye of the Phoenix is the sequel to all of these.

http://tiny.cc/sv0Cq

http://tiny.cc/maL7p

I've posted them before, but for the benefit of those who have never watched any of these films.

Joyce
 
Rudi,
With regards to Mother Earth Day, have a look at this:

http://www.worldforum.org/2009conference-overview.htm

This can be found on Wisdom Universities website.

Joyce
 
Check out especially the sponsors.. unreal:

http://www.worldforum.org/2009sponsors-partners.htm

Joyce
 
Wow, talk about externalization of the hierarchy, look at this from the site. Woodstock's occult beginnings being exposed:

http://www.esotericquest.org/america/index.html

It comes from this link directly:

http://www.opencenter.org/

listed on my last post as a sponsor.

Joyce
 
The site ties in the theme of Andalusia, where there were kabbalists, sufis and Christian mystics in the so-called age where there was this wonderful "peace".

http://www.esotericquest.org/spain/

Joyce
 
read the entire program.. Very interesting in light of folks like Jerusalem Academy:

http://www.esotericquest.org/EsotericQuest_07Brochure.pdf
 
Now try to remember how all these links are connected.. Enlightment next was on Damanhur's site, Wisdom University is connected to Damanhur and Alex Grey, but look at this. Bear in mind that the Hague is the UN's center for the World tribunal when you think about how important a city it is spiritually. We are talking global justice ( or global injustice)

http://www.thehaguecenter.org/Hague_Center/Partners.html

Check out these partners and the rest of the site.
 
From the Hague Center site, we get to Human Emergence, Middle East Chapter and who do we have:

http://www.humanemergencemiddleeast.org/CHE-center-for-human-emergence-middle-east.php#Board_of_Advisors

http://tiny.cc/ABEdq

A quote from the site:

"Our Perspective

The Middle East is at a pivotal time in its history, a cross roads in its evolution. Old ways no longer seem to be working and new ways have yet to fully emerge. Many solutions to the challenges in the region have been proposed. Some have been implemented, but none have been comprehensive enough to set the region on its way to long term peace, prosperity, and new possibilities for its people. Everyone living in the Middle East feels the need for change, and the world is watching and hoping for solutions that will lead the region towards reclaiming its place as a modern day "cradle of civilization."
This is the time that will set the tone for what's to come in the future. At this critical point in history, the Middle East is experiencing tension between break-down and break-through, tradition and innovation. New alliances are being formed that are based on shared values and worldviews, rather than merely on religion, ethnicity or geographic limitations. Old ways are fading and new ways are emerging—the lay of the land is shifting profoundly."

I wonder what these shared values and worldview happen to be? Actually, I don't wonder at all.
 
From that site, we link to this:

http://www.iabc.com/wc/

Look at the impressive list of sponsors.
Joyce
 
Now, I know I've posted a lot, but I haven't even scratched the surface of what's on all these links. Here's one more from the Hague site:

http://www.holacracy.org/

A quote from them, so you can see why it is important to read the site:

"Worldwide Holarchic Governance
A company is a semi-autonomous holon, just like all the sub-holons within the company
(departments, project teams, etc.). For a holarchy to remain healthy, all holons need clear
autonomy as a whole, and clear responsibilities as a part or member of something larger. Our
current corporate governance model pushes companies towards unhealthy agency – they are
encouraged to ignore responsibilities for communion with the broader world. We see the impact of
this all the time, whenever companies focus on their own growth and profits while ignoring their
impacts on the environment or the world around them. It can be tempting to chalk this all up to
ignorant or selfish executives, however that’s not entirely fair. Our current organizational and
governance systemsare setup in ways that push towards this unhealthy agency – it is extremely
difficult to work against this momentum in the current model, or even become fully awake to it.
Let’s explore how these dynamics might shift in a world practicing Holacracy. "

HOLCRACY!!!


I knew if I looked long enough there would be a Laszlo connections. It's Noetic Sciences interviewing him on their Shift series. Listen to this interview off Holacracy's website:

http://www.holacracy.org/system/files/IONSTeleseminar2008-09-03.mp3
 
One link of The World Forum site, is more incredible than the next:

http://www.myss.com/CMED/home/

Joyce
 
I know I have posted a lot of links, but if you follow from the beginning you will see that they are ALL really important to look at, but this one might take the cake:

http://www.glcoherence.org/

Watch the very short video:


This is very much linked to Rudi's theme of Mother Earth Day...Full blown paganism is being integrated with science, business, government, spirituality in very interesting ways.
Joyce
 
You HAVE TO READ THIS:

http://www.glcoherence.org/monitoring-system/about-system.html

Global coherence monitoring.

They are using GPS technology:

http://www.glcoherence.org/monitoring-system/sensor-sites.html

I have always suspected that RFID and GPS technology will be used as part of a plan to "track everyone" I'm sure many of you have thought the same.

Joyce
 
http://www.glcoherence.org/monitoring-system/sensor-sites.html

If you listen to Dr. Rollin McCraty's talk on this page.. He's talking about correlations of magnetic rhythms in the ionosphere and human events..

He's going to make it sound really good, but I have always believed that some kind of massive brain washing could be done through electronic implants.

They are going monitor heart and brain waves... Now do YOU want someone monitoring your brainwaves.

They are going to monitor mass emotionality!!!

Then when the antimessiah wants to manipulate the world to follow him, he'll know exactly how to do it. .

This is unreal.

Joyce
 
Here's the bio on their Chairman, surprise, surprise:

http://www.glcoherence.org/about-us/advisory-boards.html

You have connections to Noetic Sciences, Princeton's Global Conciousness project and many other very interesting high level links.. Take a careful look. If these people want to monitor the world and make "global peace" I'd be very concerned.

Thankfully, we know the story's ending.
Joyce
 
Their chairman who is also chairman of Institute of Heart Math is also Chairman and co-Ceo of this company:

http://www.quantumintech.com/


Here's Heart math's site:

http://www.heartmath.org/about-us/about-the-founder.html

I know this is all a lot, but it will be well worth your time to go through it and see how it connects with Rudi's find about Earth Day, and with everything else that we look at here from Alice Bailey, global government, world peeace to Bible prophecy.

Joyce
 
Here's one of their products:

http://www.emwave.com/

Sounds good for health, right?

Joyce
 
Thank you Joyce for all the links you posted tonight. I've been getting the State of the World Forum email newsletter, so I've been following with interest the additional news they release about their Nov.09 Conference. You found some very important leads through their site that I had missed. I've spent some time tonight reading through the Esoteric Quest For Inner America site. I noticed mention of a particularly interesting book I now plan to order. I'll share any additional thoughts I have with you after I read more from the links in the morning. -Rudi
 
Here is is folks, technologies leading to world peace:

http://www.ourfutureworld.org/Technologies.html

High tech spirituality.
Joyce
 
If you think I'm joking, look at this:

http://www.ourfutureworld.org/

High-tech mind control.

A world of manchurian candidates...

Joyce
 
Look at the partners, just in case you didn't think Islam was somehow involved in this...the world's largest religion:

http://www.ourfutureworld.org/Partners.html
 
I want to highlight one person in particular on the Coherence project's website.. They are all worthy of a second look. These people are well connected, but this one in particular struck me:


"Dean Radin, Ph.D. of Petaluma, California, is a fellow and senior scientist at the Institute of Noetic Sciences. An early career as a concert violinist detoured into science. Radin conducted advanced telecommunications R&D at AT&T Bell Laboratories and GTE Laboratories for a decade. For over 20 years he has done consciousness research at Princeton University, University of Edinburgh, University of Nevada and Silicon Valley think tanks, including SRI International, where he investigated psychic phenomena for the U.S. government. Radin has written several books, including the bestselling The Conscious Universe and Entangled Minds, and authored or co-authored over 200 articles that have appeared in many journals. He’s done interviews on Oprah, Larry King Live, the BBC and PBS. He has lectured extensively, including at Cambridge and Princeton universities, Virginia Tech, Google and the Defense Department’s Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency."

Just to remind you, Virginia Tech is where that young Korean man killed a large number of people, and DARPA, does high level projects for the Defense department. When the Virginia Tech event happened ( and the the Prosecutor Scandal was going on with Gonzalez on the hot seat) there was this sad distraction at Virginia Tech.

Some of the "conspiracy sites" like Alex Jones and Cuttingedge put forth ideas about mindcontrol, Manchurian Candidate types, but I would never propose something like this, because some one might think I'm a little paranoid.

I hope after you take careful look at the site you are all as disturbed about it as I am.

Cuttingedge, which I don't always agree with, but find interesting and do agree with some things has talked extensively about HAARP, and the use of electromagnetic waves for weather control. Chemtrails which I find all over the place when I travel, are also at times linked to some of the weather phenomenon, so I'll let all of you use your imagination.

A few months back, Scientific American had two articles which I found intriguing.. One was about putting substances into the atmosphere to control weather.. and the other was about implants that would allow us to read Tolstoy's War and Peace instantly. I figure if Scientific American is putting these things out for public consumption, the technology is a lot further along than anyone's willing to admit and they are just preparing the public for what they already have in mind.

Joyce
 
One more little blurb that I don't know how to tell you to access from OUR FUTURE WORLD FOUNDATION which I posted a few posts ago:


Letter from the CEO of Express Care
his letter is to inform you of the highest achievement of Express Care on Thursday June 26, 2008, when it received the ‘HONOR OF HOPE AWARD’ from President George W. Bush under the White House’s Faith and Community Based Initiative. This award was presented at the White House National Conference of Faith and Community Based Initiative held in Washington DC, where President George W. Bush was present joined by members of the President Cabinet, Director Jay Hein and Jedd Meford from OFBCI and more than 1500 public and private sector leaders.

One non-profit organization from each state was chosen and among them Express Care was recognized during the National Conference.

BACKGROUND:

In 2007, Express Care was a recipient of ‘Champion of Compassion Award’ from The White House Faith and Community Based Initiative through the Northern Virginia Workforce Investment Board’s SkillSource. The program was a success as the participants who enrolled in the Express Care’s Personal Care Assistant Training were empowered and became self-sufficient. After getting certified as Personal Care Assistants they were placed into jobs. This program is continued and until now 119 students have been graduated Department of Medical Assistance Services and are working in the health care field.

As a result of successfully outreaching the community in need, Express Care is the recipient of the following awards and recognitions:


Honor of Hope Award - A White House Faith-Based and Community Initiative.
Champion of Compassion Award - A White House Regional Faith-Based and Comm


Take a careful look at this site too. It's bizarre but there's a LOT on it.

Joyce
 
One more little blurb that I don't know how to tell you to access from OUR FUTURE WORLD FOUNDATION which I posted a few posts ago:


Letter from the CEO of Express Care
his letter is to inform you of the highest achievement of Express Care on Thursday June 26, 2008, when it received the ‘HONOR OF HOPE AWARD’ from President George W. Bush under the White House’s Faith and Community Based Initiative. This award was presented at the White House National Conference of Faith and Community Based Initiative held in Washington DC, where President George W. Bush was present joined by members of the President Cabinet, Director Jay Hein and Jedd Meford from OFBCI and more than 1500 public and private sector leaders.

One non-profit organization from each state was chosen and among them Express Care was recognized during the National Conference.

BACKGROUND:

In 2007, Express Care was a recipient of ‘Champion of Compassion Award’ from The White House Faith and Community Based Initiative through the Northern Virginia Workforce Investment Board’s SkillSource. The program was a success as the participants who enrolled in the Express Care’s Personal Care Assistant Training were empowered and became self-sufficient. After getting certified as Personal Care Assistants they were placed into jobs. This program is continued and until now 119 students have been graduated Department of Medical Assistance Services and are working in the health care field.

As a result of successfully outreaching the community in need, Express Care is the recipient of the following awards and recognitions:


Honor of Hope Award - A White House Faith-Based and Community Initiative.
Champion of Compassion Award - A White House Regional Faith-Based and Comm


Take a careful look at this site too. It's bizarre but there's a LOT on it.

Joyce
 
I just read an article that informs about how the Girl Scouts have gone Lesbian/New Age. And are going anti-Christian. It's all part of the package.
 
Rudi,
It was you that inspired me to take a further look at this.
Joyce
 
It's kind of interesting that the Radin connections ties back to HK's link on Levenda. He was talking about the Nazi occult connections in our CIA, NASA, SRI, etc.
so again, one must draw their own conclusions, but those of you who didn't listen to the MP3 file, have a listen and then look at Radin's credentials again, and the connections Noetic Science and the rest..

Joyce
 
Our Future World Foundation is connected to this, which we've seen here before:

http://www.globalpeacefestival.org/

it's a lot to keep straight, but if I don't post it when I see it, I'm liable to lose it, so my apologies for overwhelming the comment section.

Joyce
 
And now, the final one, from the Global Peace Festival, we get to Points of Light. To understand Points of Light, look at Rich Medford's blog a couple of blogs ago. I want to give Dorothy credit for connecting Bush's 1000 points of light and Hands on Network with this..

She goes into a lengthy explanation about the occult nature of 1000 points of light and she didn't believe that it was connected to Islam, which is something I happen to know from many years ago, but it is interesting to see the mixture of Islam and esoteric stuff in OUR FUTURE WORLD Foundation who is a sponsor of the Global Peace Festival too, among many other sponsors.

It is interesting to note, as I did earlier that one of the members of Our Future World Foundation received Geroge Bush Jr. faith based award, and the Faith based awards are linked into Points of Light, Hands on Network.

I probably wouldn't have looked that hard had Dorothy not pointed this out a week or so ago.. so thanks Dorothy. I want to give credit where credit is do and encourage all of you to look at some of the other links on this site.


Joyce
 
The Founder of Our Future World Foundation
is mentioned on Syncrocitys website. That is the same Syncrocity, that had leaders killed in the Mubai killings a little while back, along with members of Chabad House:



News and Happenings

Welcome to the News and Happenings section of the Synchronicity Foundation website. Here, you will find the latest in events, features, and up to date highlights within the world of Synchronicity. As much of this section includes multi-media material, please click on the provided links to hear audio clips and view videos or still photos. Other links will take you to pages that provide more detail in printed form. It is our hope that your experience of the Synchronicity Foundation website will be enhanced through checking in with the News and Happenings section on a regular basis, as it will be continually updated with new material.



Chicago Programs with Master Charles
May 14-16, 2009



Chicago will have the rare opportunity to experience the quiet, compelling meditative presence of the man who was named "The American Guru" in the award winning documentary, "The Spiritual Revolution", Master Charles Cannon.

Master Charles will be presenting programs in Chicago May 14-16, 2009. Accompanied by Kia Scherr, he will dialogue on the theme, One Source...Honoring the Sacredness of Life. A free public program will be held on Thursday, May 14 and a Full Day Empowerment Program on Saturday, May 16th.

We invite you to attend these programs with Master Charles as he speaks with the voice of Wisdom Traditions throughout time of the Oneness of all creation and the sacredness of all life. His comments are non-denominational and most timely for us all in these troubled times.

Click this link to view Master Charles Cannon's Interview by Bill Campbell, host of ABC-TV’s “Chicagoing”.

To register online or to learn more about the Chicago programs, click here.



Master Charles interviewed
by Bill Campbell, host of ABC-TV’s
"Chicagoing"



Master Charles was interviewed by Bill Campbell, host of ABC-TV’s “Chicagoing”. It was a wonderful interview in which these ‘kindred spirits’ shared their life-affirmative focus and commitment. The show will be aired on April 26th @ 11 am Chicago time in preparation for Master Charles’ Chicago programs… May 14th through 16th. It’s a must see if you live in the Chicago area.

Click this link to see the online video of the interview.


Special Guest Retreat
With H.H. Sai Maa Lakshmi Devi
June 25-28, 2009
Just a reminder that there is still time to register for the upcoming Special Guest Retreat featuring Master Charles and Sai Maa. This unique program will include individual and joint sessions with both Masters, as well as a three-day yagna. If you are unable to attend in person you may choose to sponsor the yagna and thus be intimately connected to what will undoubtedly be a very powerful spiritual experience.



The Fullness of Emptiness
April Stillpointe Retreat...
Only a few days ago we completed our April Stillpointe Retreat with Master Charles. However, “completed” does not seem the appropriate term to apply to such a program. For the fact is that the energetic effects of this very powerful experience are sure to resonate within all of us for a very long time. As staff, we have learned to recognize and value the evolutionary potential which is available to us during these programs. We know we will pushed beyond our present boundaries and we embrace the experience - even though it may not always be comfortable. And our hearts become even more joyful when we find that our guests are also having very profound and life-altering meditative experiences. We had several “first-timers” join us for this program and all had a beautiful experience and were aptly assisted and facilitated by their staff “buddies” as well as program moderators Kia Scherr and Phil Duncan. All who participated together share a very sacred space and we here in the community look forward to our continuing journey together as One.



April Stillpointe Yagna



If seven consecutive evenings of extended meditation with Master Charles were not enough to knock your socks off - we had a week-long yagna going on as well! From the opening ceremony Monday morning to the bittersweet conclusion on Saturday, the entire Sanctuary was bathed in the most delicate, exalted energetic which was invoked during this Chandi Yagna, dedicated to the Divine Feminine. For six hours a day our beautiful priests joyfully chanted their mantras over the fire. Guests were free to come and go as they wished and it was most intoxicating to sit in the pavilion by the fire and just bask in the divine energy. Occasionally we were jolted out of our reverie by our priest, Ramesh, who exorted us to give “big clap!” as he tossed an offering into the fire.

By week’s end, after much invocation, ritual and general merriment, the Goddess was happy, we were happy, the priests are always happy, the planets were happy, the lion in the picture with the goddess got some “pumpkin’ (actually a honeydew melon, but who’s splitting hairs here) and he was happy. Oh, and one other thing. We had the rare treat of gathering at the Blessed Mother Pavilion one evening at her request during which Master Charles shared with us her message and blessing. Just as he was leaving this deeply intoxicating event we heard among the trees the rare call of the whip-poor-will, which has deep significance for Master Charles and is evidence of his relationship with the Blessed Mother. The whip-poor-will’s call was perfectly timed and was the magical cherry on top of the Mother’s blessing. And everybody was happy.

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Los Angeles Programs
with Master Charles

Master Charles, accompanied by Kia Scherr, will be presenting a series of programs on the theme One Source...Honoring the Sacredness of Life in the Los Angeles area July 16-19, 2009. Venues include the Olympic Collection Conference Center for a free evening program on July 16 and a one-day empowerment on July 19. Programs will also be presented at Maha Yoga in LA on July 17 and Yoga Soup in Santa Barbara on July 18.

For details on specific events please contact the Sanctuary at 757-644-3400.



Hermitage Renovations

In order to keep up with increasing numbers of Synchronicity retreat participants, we are expanding our guest accommodations. Currently, the lower level of the Hermitage is being renovated to comfortably accommodate up to 16 additional guests at retreats. Construction began April 10 and will be complete before the Special Guest Retreat with Sai Maa and Master Charles in June.





All New Synchronicity Website

Be sure to browse around our newly renovated website! While the new website design retains the original look, it is simpler to navigate with lots of new content and easy access to the calendar, program information and other popular features.






Birthday Gift Fund Lottery Winners
We are delighted to announce the winners of Master Charles' Birthday Gift Fund Lottery as follows:

1st place winner: James Gentilesco - Prize: A free Retreat in 2009.
2nd place winner: Brenda Porter - Prize: Three months facilitated mentoring.

3rd place winner: Joe Mitchell - Prize: A free phase change



Invitation for Sponsorship

The upcoming Stillpointe Retreat, to be held April 19-26, 2009 at the Virginia Sanctuary, will feature the traditional Vedic Fire Ritual known as Yagna. This beautiful and spiritually powerful ceremony will performed by Vedic priests to support a specific intent, in this case to honor and celebrate Source as expressed through the Divine Feminine. The opportunity to participate in a Yagna in the West is quite rare, and we hope you will join us either physically or in spirit for this opportunity to transcend the illusion of limitation and celebrate the abundance of Divine Life.
It is considered a great blessing and privilege to be able to sponsor a Yagna, and we warmly invite you to participate in this investment in positive force. The names of those choosing to sponsor the Yagna will be included in the ritual, thus one need not be physically present to benefit from the exquisite energetic that is evoked through the ceremony.

For more details, click here



Master Charles to visit Chicago

In mid May 2009, Chicago will have the rare opportunity to experience the quiet, compelling meditative presence of the man who was named "The American Guru" in the award winning documentary, "The Spiritual Revolution", Master Charles Cannon.

We invite you to attend these programs with Master Charles as he speaks with the voice of Wisdom Traditions throughout time of the Oneness of all creation and the sacredness of all life. His comments are non-denominational and most timely for us all in these troubled times.
Click here to learn more about the Chicago programs



Master Charles
on the Discovery Channel


Master Charles recently completed an exciting two hour interview with the crew from the Discovery Channel. They are creating a new series called "Moments in Terror" which will air starting the last week of April and run through the last week of June. Keep watching the website. As soon as we are notified the exact date and time Master Charles will be on we will post it.


Master Charles
Birthday Celebration Weekend
Master Charles annual Birthday Celebration Retreat was held at the Virginia Sanctuary March 12-15, 2009. This beautiful program honoring Mastership was highlighted on the occasion of Master Charles’ birthday on March 14, when he delivered the Blessed Mother’s birthday message to him - and by extension, to all of us. In the spiritual tradition of Mastership, the birthday heralds an expansion of the guru’s energetic field. As Master Charles experienced his own energetic expansion during the program, accompanied by the tangible presence of the Blessed Mother, so too did he gift all of us with a group empowerment which left many in awe, and some in tears, over the magnitude of what they had just experienced.
It was an expansive, heartfelt weekend in which we were joined by many dear members of the Synchronicity community. The Saturday program was also made available worldwide through teleconference and podcast, making the same energetic expansion accessible to Synchronicity meditators all over the world.



Master Charles on YouTube

Synchronicity now has a new 10-part series produced specifically for YouTube entitled Messages from Mumbai. In these fascinating videos, which run approximately 10 minutes each, Master Charles explores the holistic meaning of the Mumbai attacks and uses the discussion to bring our awareness to the Oneness of all Life and the role each of us plays in creating our reality.
In addition, you will find three other videos on YouTube which feature dialogues with Master Charles, making this a great vehicle to experience the Master and his enlightening insights.

Link to the first video of the Mumbai series here: http://www.youtube.com/user/Synchronicity2610



Master Charles on Facebook

Master Charles and the Synchronicity community are now on Facebook. Master Charles has a personal profile as well as a fan page. The Synchronicity Community also has a page for those of you who would like to stop by and visit.



Master Charles’ Birthday
Blessing and Empowerment Retreat

As of this writing, the Synchronicity community is greatly looking forward to celebrating Master Charles’ birthday during this very expansive retreat to be held March 12-15. A capacity audience is expected for the Master’s birthday, which has traditionally been regarded as a period of utmost spiritual potency. This annual event is a time of empowerment for Master Charles and is marked by an increase in the amplitude of his Sourcefield. We welcome with love those individuals who will be present with us for the celebration, as well as the many who will join us via teleconference and podcast to receive Master Charles energetic transmission on this very special occasion.
To Register for this retreat please call: 757-644-3400




New Audio Discourse:
Shoebox Dialogues - Volume 3

A few time a year, Synchronicity Sanctuary opens its doors to the public and shares the experience of Modern Spirituality and Contemporary High-Tech Meditation with interested individuals. On the occasion of these Open House Weekends, Master Charles is invited to speak to the assembled guests on a holistic theme. Over the years, rather than plan a specific topic, he has chosen a more spontaneous approach through what he has playfully referred to as his "Shoebox Dialogues". Randomly choosing a number of quotations from his shoebox collection, Master Charles brilliantly weaves them together to create a most enlightening discourse. In addition, the Shoebox Dialogues are shared with Synchronicity Associates world-wide via teleconference.
To order, click here.



Synchronicity Teacher Training

Our most recent Synchronicity Teacher Training was held February 15-22 at the Virginia Sanctuary. This marks the 9th consecutive year of the training, which was facilitated for the first time by Kia Scherr with the assistance of Phil Duncan and Lisa Schwaber-Barzilay.

A class of seven exceptional graduates received their “diplomas” from Master Charles on the final night of the program before a supportive audience of residents and community members.
Our newest Certified Synchronicity Teachers include Ginger Marcus, Samudra Josepher, Joe Mitchell lll, Kammie Goatley, Anne Gregory, Cherie Hawkins, Shane Grant and David Rivers. All expressed their appreciation to Master Charles and to Kia for creating this opportunity to greatly expand not only their understanding of the Synchronicity Model, but also their state of Sourceful awareness over the course of a very intense week of training.
The next Synchronicity Teacher Training will be held September 13-20, 2009.

Click here for more information.



The Inner Network

The Synchronicity Inner Network is context in which members of the Synchronicity community and Recognitions Associates can share their meditative experience and communicate with each other via email. The Inner Network, which is emailed to members in newsletter format five days a week, has recently experienced a shift in focus as more readers become writers. Along with Master Charles’ weekly contribution and “assignment,” each day of the week features a specific theme and members are invited to submit their experience or insights within the context of that theme.
This increased involvement of Inner Network members is a natural expression of the on-going expansion of the group and yet another expression of the practical experience of Oneness. As we grow in awareness, our experience becomes valuable to others and provides yet another point of contact on our collective journey of One.
To register for the Inner Network, please call the Sanctuary at 757-644-3378



Shoebox Dialogue Open House Retreat

On February 14, Synchronicity welcomed a large attendance to its first program of 2009, a Shoebox Dialogue with International Teleconference and Podcast. The audience was blessed with another scintillating dialogue from Master Charles as he took a group of quotations from his “shoebox of quotes” and wove them into a wonderful discussion. The program was simultaneously broadcast via teleconference and podcast. The Shoebox Dialogue will soon be available as a CD audio discourse.



Message from Master Charles Cannon:

In these times of fragmentation and extreme polarization in the collective consciousness of humanity, we must heed the call to a greater awakening. Life is Divine and human life is a sacred experience. In the life that empowers us, we are all one. The one is the many...

The time has come for us to share our oneness in Divine Life. Synchronicity Foundation is dedicated to life as a sacred experience. If you find resonance with this essential truth....join us. Let us transform ourselves and our world in the awareness of our oneness.

I welcome you all with love.

Master Charles Cannon
His Holiness Swami Vivekananda Saraswati
January 1, 2009







Trust & Watch
New Year Message 2009


On New Year’s Eve 2008, as the highlight of the The Master’s Empowerment Retreat “The Power of One: Recovery and Renewal”, Master Charles delivered an inspiring and uplifting dialogue to the assembled guests and well as those joining us from all over the world via teleconference and podcast.
Master Charles began the evening with a New Year’s Message from the Blessed Mother which he delivered to the audience at her request. He then elaborated on his understanding of the message given to him by the Blessed Mother while he was held captive at the Oberoi Hotel in Mumbai. She spoke only these few words “Trust and watch.” Yet by meditating deeply on her directive, Master Charles was able to transform his experience into one of great love and light. Through his enlightening insight, he raises our awareness of how we, too, can transform our experience into a blissful expression of Divine Life.
This empowering discourse includes Synchronicity Holodynamic Vibrational Entrainment Technology in the Alpha frequency range, delivering a precision contemplative experience every time you listen.

To order this soundtrack online click here...




Expanding the Possibilities
Synchronicity in the Ethers

As the latest step in our ongoing efforts to bring Master Charles and the Synchronicity Experience to the largest possible audience, we are developing new ways to make our programs and retreats available to a worldwide audience. For some time we have offered our popular teleconferences, and we recently provided several podcasts - one of the Scherr Memorial and the other of Master Charles’ New Year’s Message and group empowerment.
We are planning to increase the number of podcasts of special programming here at the Virginia Sanctuary, including opportunities for participants to experience the powerful group empowerment by Master Charles, such as was offered on New Year’s Eve. Also in the works are “Webinars” with Master Charles. These seminars will allow you to interact with Master Charles and participate in real time from wherever you are located. Stay tuned for more information on these exciting developments.



Happy Holidays

Master Charles and the Synchronicity Residential Community hosted several traditional events this holiday season which provided a warm setting for our community to come together and consciously celebrate this special time of year.
On Christmas Day, residents and community members joined Master Charles for a quiet (and delicious) Christmas dinner. This was followed by our annual holiday reception with Master Charles which was held downstairs in the Fellowship Hall. This warm time of sharing featured gifts, greetings and lots of desserts! Master Charles met with everyone in attendance, giving each of us the opportunity to share stories, reminiscences and well wishes and to savor Master Charles’ enlightening presence.
Over the New Year’s Holiday we offered our annual Master’s Empowerment Silent Retreat. This unique program provided an excellent opportunity to reflect on the events of the past year and to rededicate ourselves to our journey for the coming year. The program culminated on New Year’s Eve with a powerful program in which Master Charles shared with us the Blessed Mother’s New Year’s Message followed by a very impactful group empowerment which included not only those physically present but also individuals from all over the world who joined us via teleconference or podcast.



High-Tech Meditation Retreat

Synchronicity's High-Tech Meditation Retreat with Master Charles was presented from October 14 - 19 at the Sanctuary. This five-day retreat experience is focused on the fundamental principles of Master Charles' Holistic Model of Reality with Synchronicity High-Tech Meditation and Holistic Lifestyle as the practical means. Among the attendees were many who were new to meditation as well as more seasoned practitioners. Daily sessions with Master Charles included opportunities for the retreatants to receive Master Charles' holistic perspective on specific questions regarding their meditative and holistic lifestyle experience as well as their challenges. One new attendee was so inspired that she decided to return to the Sanctuary the very next week and attend the Autumn Mastery Retreat... a powerful acknowledgement of the transformation that can happen in the presence of authentic Mastership.



Master Charles to Travel Extensively in 2009

Master Charles has asked the Synchronicity Administrative Team to plan his 2009 calendar to include increased national and global travel. As a result, there will be two week-long retreats in 2009 rather than four as has been the Sanctuary tradition. Both will be Stillpointe Silent Retreats held in April and October and each will include a week-long Vedic / Tantric Yagna performed by Brahmin priests from India.

While plans have not yet been finalized, invitations have been extended to Master Charles to visit Chicago in the U.S., Vancouver and Montreal in Canada, Ireland, France, Singapore, Australia, New Zealand and Japan. It is heartening to see that as the signs of global transformation are becoming increasingly evident, many are turning to Modern Spirituality as a means of expressing the awakening of their individuated consciousness. Please check the Synchronicity website for updates on Master Charles' 2009 schedule.



Meditation on the Mall

Recently, Marita Digney, a Synchronicity Certified Teacher, Secular Community member and Jungian Analyst, opened a professional office on Charlottesville's very popular Downtown Mall. She was inspired to find a way to introduce interested individuals to the Synchronicity Experience and so, she created "Meditation on the Mall", a monthly group meditative experience held on Sunday afternoons. The first Meditation on the Mall is scheduled for Sunday, November 2nd, and has been advertised to the public in a variety of ways. Master Charles and the Synchronicity Community are strongly supporting this new outreach effort by Marita. Stay tuned for more details!





Master Charles Visits Toronto

In his first visit to Toronto, Master Charles presented a series of programs to interested Canadians. On the evening of Thursday, Sept. 25th, an Introductory Program was offered in which Master Charles dialogued on the theme of Modern Spirituality and its practical application, Synchronicity High-Tech Meditation.

This well-attended free event drew a diverse audience with participants coming from as far away as Montreal as well as from locations in and around Toronto. Many purchased Synchronicity soundtracks and books and also enrolled in the full-day Empowerment Program presented on Saturday, Sept. 27th. On the following evening, a book signing with Master Charles was held at a bookstore in the Toronto suburb of Markham.

The full-day Empowerment Program was again well-attended and included seasoned practitioners as well as those who were new to meditation. Master Charles elucidated the Holistic Model of Reality in-depth, answered individual questions, offered a variety of awareness techniques and led the group in extended sessions of Synchronicity High-Tech Meditation, both in the morning and afternoon sessions.

The program concluded with a Farewell Greeting in which many expressed their profound gratitude in having the opportunity to spend time with Master Charles in such an intimate setting. Future plans include a series of programs with Master Charles in Montreal as well as Vancouver.


Master Charles dialogues with a Toronto meditator while signing a book.


Elucidating a point during the Toronto full day Empowerment.

An awareness process with Jean Russell during the program.


Farewell Greeting at the conclusion of the Toronto Program.


Synchronicity Graduates Newly Certified Teachers

Synchronicity's eighth annual Teacher Certification Training was offered at the Sanctuary from Sept. 14 - 21. As with each training, the participants received in-depth understanding of the Synchronicity Holistic Model of Reality, the philosophical, academic and scientific basis of the Synchronicity Experience, as well as its practical application, Synchronicity High-Tech Meditation.

Each day, the trainees spent many hours in a classroom environment and through intensive dialogues, Q & A and practice sessions, became conversant in this modern expression of the time-honored wisdom from which Master Charles created the Synchronicity Experience.

The last evening featured the graduation ceremony in which each participant addressed the entire Synchronicity Community in Master Charles' presence. The sharing was profound and heartfelt, with each graduate expressing their gratitude and appreciation for the profound gift of Master Charles' wisdom. Master Charles then presented each graduate with a certificate of completion and delivered a beautiful dialogue on the value of speaking from one's state of being and the power of sharing holistic experience with others. In all, it was a most empowering conclusion to an inspiring week.





Summer 2008 Stillpointe Yagna

Concurrent with the Summer Stillpointe Silent Retreat, a week-long Yagna, a Vedic / Tantric ritual of holistic empowerment, was conducted at the Sanctuary. Within the newly constructed Ritual Pavilion at the Shrine of the Heart, two Brahmin priests performed this intricate and profoundly elevating traditional ceremony with Master Charles presiding over many of the daily sessions.

Against a backdrop of silence, the Sanctuary was alive with the sounds of ancient mantras chanted from early morning until evening. The Yagna fires continued 24 / 7 and the Synchronicity Community participated in shifts around the clock to be sure the flames were kept burning. Retreat guests sat in the Ritual Pavilion several times each day, saturated with the blissful energetic entrainment that was generated. In all, the 2008 Stillpointe Yagna was a most sacred and magical creation that took all assembled to new heights of holistic fulfillment.









Synchronicity Vice-President Visits India

Alan Scherr, Vice-President of Synchronicity Foundation for Modern Spirituality, recently spent two weeks in Mumbai, India at Master Charles' request. The focus of this visit was to secure accommodations, program venues and numerous additional elements in preparation for the upcoming India tour with Master Charles in November, 2008.

During this recent visit, in collaboration with Synchronicity's Indian associates, five-star accommodations and excellent programming space was reserved. In addition, local production was set in motion for Synchronicity Alpha / Theta soundtracks, the Recognitions Program and two Synchroncity books: The Bliss of Freedom and The Synchronicity Experience book and CD set.

Having returned to the Sanctuary in early July, Alan continues to work with his Indian counterparts on the many components of the November tour.



Guru Purnima Celebration

On July 18th, The Synchronicity Monastic and Secular Communities gathered to celebrate Guru Purnima, the traditional Vedic / Tantric day of honoring the Spiritual Master. Held annually on the full moon day in July, Guru Purnima affords an opportunity to express one's gratitude and re-affirm one's dedication to the consistent source of empowerment and holistic guidance that the Spiritual Master embodies.

Included in the celebration was a traditional Vedic / Tantric ceremony known as "aarti" or offering of light, which was first performed by Master Charles in acknowledgement of his own Spiritual Master and then by members of the gathering to Master Charles himself. Accompanying the ceremony is the ringing of bells, cymbals and blowing of a conch shell.

Master Charles then offered a brief but very inspiring dialogue on the theme of Mastership and the evening concluded with a meditation and Greeting.



A Vision of Peace

On June 27, 2008, Dr. Mohammad Alam, his wife, Naila, and friend and associate, Yasmeen Durrani, from Herndon, Virginia, visited the Sanctuary and met with Master Charles. The purpose of the visit was to discuss how the Synchronicity Experience could serve to facilitate Dr. Alam's vision for global peace, particularly in the forty-eight nations that comprise the world of Islam.

Dr. Alam is Founder and Chairman of Our Future World group of companies and is also Director and Chief Technology Officer of Express Care, Inc. - a humanitarian organization that provides information and assistance to those in need, offering a support network that is often lacking.

Naila, CEO of Express Care, is a recipient of the Champion of Compassion Award, from the United States Department of Labor, Center for Faith-Based and Community Initiatives. (An Initiative by the President of the United States). This successful humanitarian organization has received numerous awards, both nationally and locally. The latest achievement of Express Care took place on Thursday June 26, 2008, when it received the prestigious 'HONOR OF HOPE AWARD' from The White House under the Faith and Community Based Initiative by President George W. Bush. This award was presented at the White House National Conference of Faith and Community Based Initiative held in Washington DC, which was well attended by more than 1500 people representing non-profit organizations (nationally and internationally) and government officials.

Dr. Alam was introduced to the Synchronicity Experience as a participant of our recent High-Tech Meditation Retreat. He said he came to "try out" the technology to see if it would be effective in accelerating his projects for world peace. His experience was so affirmative that arrangements were made for him to meet with Master Charles to discuss the practical details of implementation. Master Charles enthusiastically acknowledged Mohammad's vision in utilizing Synchronicity Contemporary High-Tech Meditation and Holistic Lifestyle to deliver holistic awareness to those in Islamic nations, thus facilitating balance and contributing to a more peaceful world.

In addition, Mohammad is a close associate of Masaru Moto, the Japanese author of The Hidden Messages in Water and will speak with him about meeting with Master Charles to introduce the Synchronicity Experience to Japan.


Here's the whole link to Syncrocity:

http://www.synchronicity.org/News-and-happenings/departments/563/

Joyce
 
This is the real kicker... Just when you think you've seen everything. Dr. Mohamed Alam is connected to this project, which Heart Math, the other organization connected to SRI, Noetic Sciences, NASA, Darpa, PrInceton i.e. Global Coherence is connected to too. I didn't know when I started looking at these two organizations that they would end up actually being connected, but here it is:

http://www.worldpeaceproject.org/projects/index.php


Both Express Care, which is Dr. Alam's organization too and Heart Math are implicated in this project..

It's brand new, so there isn't much on the site, but keep watching...


For those who know about physics ( I don't know much) the scientific word is "coherence"..for what these two organizations have in common:

Here's a wikipedia definition:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coherence_(physics)

All of these terms from quantum physics seem to be defining the spiritual environment that is "emerging" around us.

Joyce
 
Here is Dr. Alam's bio, INCREDIBLE:

http://wsany.tripod.com/id3.html

Joyce
 
If this is the same Dr. Mohamed Alam, it's incredible, but I'm trying to make sure it's the same person. If it's not, it's still incredible:

http://dcbun.tripod.com/id5.html

http://www.wiserearth.org/organization/view/65817b80d5637f73516fa7447ba1add7

http://tiny.cc/ZJZT5
 
AmeriCorps Paramilitary Propaganda Ad (or, what is our government doing to America's youth?)

http://www.infowars.com/americorps-paramilitary-propaganda-ad/
 
The following is the full text of the second part of Father Michel Shooyans' address to the plenary assembly of the pontifical academy of social sciences, delivered at the Vatican, in French, on the morning of Friday, May 1, 2009 (emphasis mine):


OBAMA AND BLAIR MESSIANISM REINTERPRETED

by Michel Schooyans


The election of Barack Obama as president of the United States has raised many expectations all over the world. In the United States, the voters chose a young, mixed race, brilliant president. He is expected to keep his promise of correcting the errors of the president who preceded him. Some excessive terms have even been used, for example the assertion that the time has come to "rebuild" the United States, or to reorganize the international order. This shows the influence of Saul D. Alinsky (1909-1972), one of the intellectual guides of the new president and Hillary Clinton. There has been no lack of zeal among the dynamic new president's admirers, who demonized the beleaguered president George W. Bush, calling for the dismantling of the politics that he developed as soon as possible. Now the Bush administration, although it did have its merits, was characterized by failures that have been acknowledged, even by the president's inner circle. Nonetheless, on one essential and fundamental point, President Bush promoted a policy worthy of respect and continuity: he offered both unborn children and medical personnel legal protection, certainly less than sufficient but still effective.The voters who put Barack Obama into the presidency did not perceive the weakness and ambiguity of the statements made by their candidate concerning this decisive point. Moreover, once elected, one of President Obama's first actions was to revoke President Bush's measures to protect the unborn child's right to life.President Obama is thus reintroducing the right to discriminate, to "set aside" some human beings. With him, the right of every human person to life and liberty is no longer recognized, much less protected. As a result, President Obama disputes the reasoning invoked by his fellow African-Americans when they demanded, rightly, the recognition of the right of all to the same dignity, to equality and freedom. In its prenatal version, racism has been restored in the United States.The new president is thus dragging the law into a process of regression that is altering the democratic nature of the society that elected him. In fact, a society that calls itself democratic but whose leaders, invoking subjective "new rights," permit the elimination of some categories of human beings, is a society that has already set out on the road of totalitarianism. According to the World Health Organization, 46 million abortions are performed worldwide each year. By revoking the legal provisions protecting life, Obama is expanding the gruesome list of the victims of criminal laws. The way has been opened for abortion to become a legal demand. The law itself can be thrown into disrepute whenever it is exploited and twisted to legalize anything whatsoever, and is put, for example, at the service of a plan to eliminate the innocent. From this point on, the reality of the human being no longer has any importance.The evident result of the change determined by Obama is that the number of abortions in the world will increase. President Bush had cut funding for programs that involve abortion, particularly outside of the United States. The reversal of this measure by the new administration limits the right of medical personnel to conscientious objection, and allows Obama to increase funding for public and private organizations, both national and international, that develop programs of birth control, of "maternity without risk," of "reproductive health" that include and promote abortion among their methods of contraception.

President Obama thus inevitably appears as one of the main proponents of the aging of the population in the United States and in nations that "benefit" from birth control programs that are presented as a precondition for development. How can a well-informed political leader ignore the fact that a society that aborts its children is a society that is aborting its future?The measure taken by Barack Obama is destined to have repercussions on a worldwide level. Traditional American "messianism" boasted that it offered the best model of democracy to the world. With the permission to kill innocent people legally, this claim is growing dimmer. In its place is emerging a "messianism" that proclaims the extinction of the moral principles written in the Declaration of Independence (1776) and in the Constitution of the United States (1787). From now on, the reference to the Creator is rejected. No human reality can assert itself anymore by virtue of its intrinsic dignity. What matters now is the will of the president. According to his own words, the president no longer needs to make reference to the moral and religious traditions of humanity. His will is the source of law. What does the American congress think about this?Now, since the influence of the United States is what matters most in international relations, bilateral and multilateral, and especially at the UN, it can be predicted that sooner or later abortion will be presented at the UN as a "new human right," a right that permits demanding abortion. The result will be that there will no longer be any room in the law for conscientious objection. This same process will allow the president to express his desire to put other subjective "new rights" on the list, like euthanasia, homosexuality, unilateral divorce, drug use, etc.

Remake religion? Remake Christianity?

President Obama can count on support for these programs from Tony Blair and his wife Cherie Booth. One of the aims of the Tony Blair Faith Foundation, the think tank founded by the former British prime minister, will be that of remaking the major religions, just as his colleague Barack Obama will remake global society. With this purpose, the foundation in question will try to expand the "new rights," using the world religions for this end and adapting these for their new duties. The religions will have to be reduced to the same common denominator, which means stripping them of their identity. This cannot be done without establishing international law as inspired by Hans Kelsen (1881-1973), and charged with approving all of the laws of sovereign nations. This system of law will also have to be imposed on the world religions in such a way that the new "faith" may be the unifying principle of global society. This new "faith," this unifying principle, must allow the advancement of the Millennium Development Goals. These goals include "Promote gender equality and empower women" (number 3) and "Improve maternal health" (number 5). We know very well what these expressions cover and imply. The launching of the Foundation's program has been announced with a campaign against malaria. This is part of goal number 6: "Combat HIV/AIDS, malaria and other diseases." The announcement was made in such a way that subscribing to this campaign will mean subscribing to the Millennium Development Goals as a whole.

In fact, Tony Blair's project extends and amplifies the United Religions Initiative, which appeared several years ago. It also extends the Global Ethic Declaration, one of the main proponents of which is Hans Küng. This plan cannot be realized except at the price of the sacrifice of religious freedom, of the imposition of a "politically correct" interpretation of the Sacred Scriptiures, and of the sabotage of the natural foundations of law. Machiavelli had recommended that religion be used for political purposes . . .The former British prime minister's highly propagandized "conversion" to Christianity, as well as his interview with the gay magazine "Attitude" in April of 2009, make Tony Blair's intentions concerning religion even more clear, beginning with the Catholic religion. The Holy Father's statements, especially about condoms, belong to another generation. The fresh "convert" does not hesitate to explain to the pope not only what he must do, but also what he must believe! Is he Catholic? Blair does not believe in the authority of the pope.

So now we are back in the time of Hobbes, if not of Cromwell: it is civil power that defines what one must believe. Religion is emptied of its distinctive content, its doctrine; nothing remains but a residue of morality, as defined by the Leviathan. It is not said that one must deny God, but from now on God has nothing to do with the history of men and their rights: it is a return to Deism. God is replaced by the Leviathan. (Emperor Worship) It is up to this to define, if it wishes, a civil religion. (gnosticism) It is up to this to interpret, if and how it wishes, the religious texts. The question of the truth of religion no longer has any relevance. Religious texts, in particular the biblical ones, must be understood in their purely "metaphorical" sense; this is what Hobbes recommends (III, XXXVI). At the most, only the Leviathan can interpret the Scriptures. Religious institutions must also be reformed to adapt them to the changes. Some religious figures must be taken hostage and made to approve the new secularized "faith," that of the "civil partnership."The rights of man as understood in the realist tradition are here put to the sword. Everything is relative. There are no rights left, except for the ones defined by the Leviathan. As Hobbes writes, "The law of nature and the civil law contain each other and are of equal extent" (I, XXVI, 4). Nothing remains of the truth, except for what the Leviathan says. It alone decides how the change should take place.


The return of the two-headed eagle


Blair's project cannot be realized without bringing back into question the distinction and relations between Church and state. This project threatens to set us back to an age in which political power was ascribed the mission of promoting a religious confession, or of changing it. In the case of the Tony Blair Faith Foundation, this is also a matter of promoting one and only one religious confession, which a universal, global political power would impose on the entire world. We also recall that the intellectual foundations for the Blair project, impregnated with New Age thinking, were laid by the United Religious Initiative and by the Global Ethic Declaration, and it is supported by many similar foundations.

This project clearly recalls the history of Anglicanism and its foundation by "defender of the faith" Henry VIII. In effect, the realization of this project presupposes the creation of a worldwide government and a global thought police. As has been seen in the case of Barack Obama, the architects of the worldwide government are dedicated to imposing a system of legal positivism that puts law behind a supreme will, which determines the validity of particular laws. In short, if Blair's project should ever be realized, the agents of the world government would impose, as a new Act of Supremacy, a single religion, validated by the interpreters of the supreme will, the Vicar General of which may already have been found (Hobbes, III, XXXVI).

What the analysis of Barack Obama's decisions and Tony Blair's project reveals is that an alliance is coming between two converging intentions, one aimed at subjugating law and the other at subjugating religion. This is the new version of the two-headed eagle. Law and religion are exploited to "legitimize" anything at all.This twofold exploitation is deadly for the human community. This is what emerges from the various experiences that have taken place in the context of the nanny state. This, by virtue of wanting to please individuals, has multiplied subjective "rights" of attribution, for example in the areas of divorce, sexuality, the family, population, etc. But by doing this, the nanny state has created countless problems that it is incapable of resolving. With the extension of these "rights" of attribution on a worldwide scale, the problems of instability and marginalization are increased to such an extent that no world government will be able to solve them.

The same is true for religion. Since the separation of Church and state was achieved, it has been inadmissible for the state to use religion to reinforce its own dominion over hearts, bodies, and consciences. As Archbishop Roland Minnerath says, the state cannot shackle religious truth, and must even guarantee the free search for this.


Toward political-legal terrorism


Through these channels, and with the support of the Blairs, the president-jurist Obama is preparing to launch a new American messianism, in a totally secularized form. He is supported in this by his faithful colleague, a presumed candidate for the presidency of the European Union. The supreme will of the president of the United States will ratify the law of nations and the law concerning relations among nations. In his footsteps, the "Thirty-Nine Articles" of the new religion will be promulgated by his British colleague.

From the summit of this pyramid, the will of the Prince is destined to circulate through the international channels of the UN to the individual national channels. In perspective, this process, as can be guessed, extinguishes the authority of the national parliaments, abolishes the authority of the executive branch, and ruins the independence of judicial power. These are the reasons why, in Obama's thinking, an international criminal court should have a larger role, and must be armed in order to coerce the recalcitrants – for example, the Catholics – who reject this view of power and law, of law as a servant of power. How can one not see this blinding truth: that we are witnessing the emergence of an unprecedented form of political-legal terrorism?

To finish, let us make the effort to remember that the Church does not have a monopoly on respect for the human right to life. This respect is proclaimed in the greatest moral and religious traditions of humanity, which often predate Christianity. The Church fully recognizes the value of arguments from reason in favor of human life. As Archbishop Minnerath has admirably demonstrated, the Church completes and consolidates this argumentation by drawing on the contribution of theology: respect for creation; man as the image of God; love of neighbor; the new commandment; etc. These arguments are frequently presented in the Church's statements, and in the many Christian documents on this question.

But when the highest authorities of the nations, and even of the world's leading power, waver on respect for fundamental human rights, it is the Church's duty to appeal to all men and women of good will to unite for the purpose of creating a single front to defend the life of every human being. The first attitude required of all, according to the responsibilities of each one, is conscientious objection, which Obama is trying to circumscribe. But this objection must be accompanied by efforts in the political sphere, in the media and the universities. The mobilization must be general and must have the central objective of all morality, and especially all Catholic morality: to acknowledge and love one's neighbor, beginning with the smallest and most vulnerable.


RELATED LINKS


Tony Blair Faith Foundation

Millennium Development Goals

United Religions Initiative

Global Ethic Foundation

Attitude
http://chiesa.espresso.
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Here's a magazine that you might want to keep up with from the Open Center's site:

http://www.lapismagazine.org/index.php?option=com_weblinks&catid=29&Itemid=81

They have some of our favorites, listed as resources.

Joyce
 
The Drudge Report is reporting that Michigan Governor Jennifer Granholm is scheduled to visit the White House on Tuesday.

The Associated Press had reported that she is one of 6 persons on the "short list" to fill the vacancy on the U.S. Supreme Court - although an unnamed senior administration official said that her visit is unrelated.

Granholm is a graduate of Harvard Law School. Unlike the current members of the court, she does NOT have judicial experience.
 
I'm sorry to do this to all of you but I do think this is significant.. More on Global Coherence:

http://www.wholescience.net/articles/20090315

The implications are of course prophetic, in a negative sense.

Joyce
 
5/18/2009

Now, I know I've posted a lot, but I haven't even scratched the surface of what's on all these links.

You sure have! My question is "Did you fully read all you posted?"

I started to re4ad one of your long transcripts but many paragraphs were just introductory/unimformative and I gave up. It would be beneficial if you did some editing before posting. We don't need all the micro-stuff to get the gist of New Age involvement. And there4 is no nee4d to sweep up every insignifican NA organization with great detail.

FWIW, I now recall that, as a young man in pprocess of leavihgt my Jewish roots, I read and was very impressed with a book by the defrocked Roman Catholic theologian, Teilhard de Chardin: "The Phenomenon of Man."

Here is the Amazon product summary:
"Product Description

Visionary theologian and evolutionary theorist Pierre Teilhard de Chardin applied his whole life, his tremendous intellect, and his great spiritual faith to building a philosophy that would reconcile religion with the scientific theory of evolution. In this timeless book, which contains the quintessence of his thought, Teilhard argues that just as living organisms sprung from inorganic matter and evolved into ever more complex thinking beings, humans are evolving toward an "omega point"—defined by Teilhard as a convergence with the Divine."

Convergence/coherence/syncrocity: they are all similar NA terms. I realize now that de Chardin may have been a forerunner of NA thinking by providing a pseudo-scientific basis for religious convergence. Those buzzwords bring to mind the synonyms used by liberal Jewish denomionations who wish to differentiate themselves: Reform/Reconstructionist/Renewal. All this at the same time they walk away from God!

The Torah includes its own convergence; IMHO the only authentic one:

"And the Lord shall become King over all the earth; on that day shall the Lord be one, and His name one. (Zech 14:9)"

Psalm 67 1 For the conductor, on neginoth; a psalm, a song. 2 God will be gracious to us and bless us; He will cause His countenance to shine with us forever. 3 That Your way should be known on earth, Your salvation among all nations. 4 Peoples will thank You, O God; peoples will thank You, yea, all of them. 5 Kingdoms will rejoice and sing praises, for You will judge peoples fairly, and the kingdoms- You will lead them on earth forever. 6 Peoples will thank You, O God; peoples will thank You, yea, all of them. 7 The earth gave forth its produce; God, our God, will bless us. 8 God will bless us, and all the ends of the earth will fear Him.

Psalm 117 1 Praise the Lord, all nations, laud Him, all peoples. 2 For His kindness has overwhelmed us, and the truth of the Lord is eternal. Hallelujah!

Have a great week,
Len
 
And more about it on this site:

http://www.greatmystery.org/nl/globalcoherence.html

and look at their site:

http://www.greatmystery.org/

This is called "rethinking" conferences, interestingly enough, reminds one of Robert Schuller's.

and the faculty is interesting:

http://www.greatmystery.org/faculty.html
 
QUANTUM THEORY AND THE NEW AGE

Regarding the Quantum Theory, the person who developed it was none other than Max Planck, who, while professing to be a "Christian," was nevertheless a pantheist.

Max Planck's view of God can be regarded as pantheistic, with an almighty, all-knowing, benevolent but unintelligible God who permeates everything, manifest by symbols, including physical laws.........http://www.newworldencyclopedia
.org/entry/Max_Planck
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http://tinyurl.com/orj3bk
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Since the development of the Quantum Theory - and seemingly "justified" by its "Uncertainty Principle" - New Agers have been deploying it in the service of their own agenda which includes promoting a "scientism" that greatly resembles the "doctrine of spiritual monism."

Eduard von Hartmann further developed Schopenhauer’s system of the world as will and idea, combining elements of Leibniz, Schelling, and Hegel into a doctrine of spiritual monism. He articulated a worldview in which the unconscious will is the cause of all things.

The fact that matter is resolvable into will and idea led Hartmann to accept “the essential likeness of Mind and Matter” (1869/1950, vol. 2: 81): “The identity of mind and matter [becomes] elevated to a scientific cognition, and that, too, not by killing the spirit but by vivifying matter” (ibid: 180)......
http://www.iep.utm.edu/p/panpsych.htm
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See pages 38 -39 at the following link:

http://tinyurl.com/qsqdbw
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Occultists who are monists identify matter with spirit.

In a manner similar, if not identical, to the way in which "spiritual monists" identify matter and spirit, the New Age Quantum Theorists identify matter with energy - with the consequence that if "all is energy", the mind of the observer can influence the thing observed vis a vis the energy expended in the very act of observing....another way of saying that we are ultimately capable of "creating our own reality."

According to such a theory, paranormal activities such as "telepathy", "telekinesis," and "remote viewing" are also possible.

As to the question concerning why we can't do these extraordinary things on a regular basis now, the answer is because we have not yet completed our evolutionary journey to the so-called "paradigm shift" -after which our MINDS ALONE will be able to influence/control matter other than that matter which makes up our own bodies.

To my knowledge, the only creatures NATURALLY capable of doing such things are God and angelic creatures - including demons.

One way in which history is more or less repeating itself is in so far as the "paranormal/occult" is being confounded with the legitimate scientific aspects of the Quantum Theory in a manner similar to the way in which Alchemy was once confounded with the legitimate science of chemistry.

Moreover, these are the phenomena that are currently the focus of research by organizations such as the SRI, the Institute of Noetic Sciences, the Fetzer Institute and certain branches of the Max Planck Society....just to name a few.
 
P.S.

There is no intention on my part to make Max Planck out to be an "evil" man. With regard to his philosophy and religious views, from what I have read, he seems to have been a good sincere person.

However, it is possible for a good sincere person to be "sincerely" wrong.

Regarding Max Planck's philosophy, if the following isn't an example of the teachings of the "Traditionalist School/perennialism" I don't know what is.

LEGACY

Planck had the firm conviction that religion and science are mutually compatible, both leading to a higher, universal truth that embraces everything. His convictions were based on seeking that higher truth, not on doctrine, and he was aware that science itself had just started on the quest. This allowed him to keep an open mind when young, in terms of scientific theory and to be tolerant toward alternative belief systems. His scientific views were, of course, in the classical mode of solids and forces—the quantum view of a much more sophisticated reality was not available to him. For he had just started the revolution and had second thoughts about the "reality" of his own concept of particle-like energy.http://tinyurl.com/qbfvd8

Here is a little review of the "Traditionalist School/perennialism:"

"Tradition" in Perennialism has a special meaning far removed from the generic meaning of folklore. "Integral Tradition" does not have a human origin and may be considered as principles revealed from Heaven and binding man to his divine origin, or to what Schuon called a "transcendent unity". Perennialists claim that the historically separated traditions share not only the same divine origin but are based on the same metaphysical principles, sometimes called philosophia perennis.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traditionalist_School

Max Planck was once quoted as saying that science “cannot solve the ultimate mystery of nature because in the last analysis we are part of the mystery we are trying to solve” (in Kurzweil 1999:55).

This flies in the face of C.S. Lewis' essay entitled THE POISON OF SUBJECTIVISM in which he wisely observed:

"Unless the measuring rod is independent of the thing being measured we can do no measuring."

You can read C.S. lewis' essay here:

THE POISON OF SUBJECTIVISM
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Commercial promotion for youth corps.

http://tinyurl.com/ovpz33
 
Len,
There is actually a connection between these links for those of us who have been tracking with this. My apologies for not going into more detail. I was working with the assumption that most on the blog are familiar with most of the names and players I'm actually ill right now, and have some time to post some of these things because I don't feel like doing much else, but not a lot of brain power to go into a lengthy explanation.

The sites that I posted are certainly in the same spirit as Pierre Teillard de Chardin. They are dealing with some process where by the "planet" is going to go through some evolutionary leap, and we will enter into this age of peace and harmony, commonly referred to as the Age of Aquarius, the New Age.

No matter how you twist or turn it, it is paganism in a more sophisticated technological form, but the same old garbage. The problem is because today many do not know Torah ( and this was true in past times too) they will not recognize the deception in these ideas floating around. They have no basis in what truth is to say, "this is a lie".

Many of these folks on the sites I posted are trying to merge, science, spirituality, environmentalism, psychology, medicine, global peace into this neat package and have all of us converge into one happy family. Only the Prince of Peace can do this..

The UN Millennial Development goals, the Earth Charter, the Alliance of Civilizations, etc, are a few of the organizations and documents which outline on the surface what these global movers and shakers hope to do.. Many of the goals are hard to argue with...fixing the environment, ending war, healing AIDs. controlling the population, bringing down social cultural barriers, and ultimately religious barriers through esoteric spirituality.

The terminology of Quantum physics is being used to describe how this utopia will spring forth.

Of course those of us who know the Scriptures, know this is rubbish. The Scriptures point to birth pangs, with great pain before the Messiah restores Israel.

At times, you will notice I quote a lot from Scripture, but there are people that don't like this because it's supposed to be a New Age blog, so today I had my New Age thinking cap on and stumbled on some things that are quite remarkable especially if you are familiar with some of the players like Ervin Laszlo, Pres of Club of Budapest, Noetic Science and numerous other New Age type organizations.

What struck me as particularly diabolic about the sites dealing with Global Coherence, is that they seem to be introducing an element of mind control. If the technology of GPS and electromagnetic waves can be used to "feel the stress levels of the earth i.e. earthquakes, but also of people" then the technology may already exist for brain washing on a global scale.

I personally have always believed that the next antimessiah figure to arise, i.e. the next Hitler type, will have at his disposal the means to do mind control, if of course people unwittingly give access to their minds through some sort of "mark".

My understanding of the passage in Revelations which speaks of a "mark of the beast" is that once people take this mark, they will be unable to be redeemed. The only reason that one would no longer qualify for redemption is if they would worship the "beast" and turn against the God of the Bible.

I believe the ultimate goal of this "quantum leap" in consciousness that everyone in the New AGe movement is moving towards, is to deceive the nations and turn them against the God of the Bible..

Hitler had scientists, most notably Mengele who engaged in all kinds of evil human experimentation. Some of these scientists ended up in our CIA and working with organizations like SRI and NASA ( call me paranoid, I don't mind). There were hearings about the use of brain washing techniques by our CIA. I believe there are still high level experiments to control human behavior which are used, and will be used on mass scale...to control the sheep who are without a Shepherd.

If we know the good Shepherd and we listen to His voice, we are likely to be very discerning and recognize this New AGe deception as it unfolds before our very eyes today. I am just exposing some of the deceivers who come across as very reasonable credible scientists doctors, psychologists, world leaders, business people who are on a mass scale promoting this deception.

I think this is what Constance has tried to do with her two books and through the blog. Maybe you should begin to familiarize yourself with some of the players. They are powerful, wealthy, educated people that run many of the worlds top institutions.

God is the only one who I fear, and I don't fear Him in a bad sense, but in the sense that I know that fear of Him is the beginning of wisdom, but I do think it is important to be aware of what is going on in our day.

It's much more important to know the Scriptures of course.

I could probably say more, but my fingers are typing faster than my mind is working today, so ...

I do go back after I speed read and try to get more detail about the sites, but by putting them out on the blog, I'm sure that I won't lose the links. At any given time, I had a lot of windows open.

The sites I've posted are pretty eye-opening, so I do encourage you to try to go back and see, but of course the most important thing we can do is study the Torah so when the counterfeit comes we will recognize it.

Shavua tov to you too,
Joyce
 
Len,
One more thing, the Global Consciousness Project out of Princeton, which is connected to Chardin's ideas about the Noosphere, might be a good place to start looking before you look at the sites on Global Coherence..

http://noosphere.princeton.edu/

Shalom,

Joyce
 
5/18/2009

Susanna wrote: "In a manner similar, if not identical, to the way in which "spiritual monists" identify matter and spirit, the New Age Quantum Theorists identify matter with energy - with the consequence that if "all is energy", the mind of the observer can influence the thing observed vis a vis the energy expended in the very act of observing....another way of saying that we are ultimately capable of "creating our own reality."

Dear Susanna,

The "identification of matter with energy" is a fact based not on quantum theory but on relativity. Einstein showed that Energy is equal to mass multiplied by the square of the speed of light. This was proven experimentally when observers demonstrated that gravity actually caused the bending of light. Light behaved just as a stream of mass would have.

But your other points on monism are well taken. Monism is the doctrine that everything is developed from a single principle (mind or matter that New Agers assert are identical).

In his book, "The Halakhic Mind," Rabbi Joseph Soloveitchik ZT"L has a chapter entitled "Plurality of Systems Supplants Monsim in Science." Cognitive pluralism is the opposite of monism. R' Soloveitchik provides several examples but the chapter is too lengthy and complex to discuss in detail. One exemple will suffice:

"While classical and relativity physics employed a rigid principle of geometrization, namely a three (space) or four (space-time) dimensional continuum, quantum and wave mechanics enjoy greater freedom. The latter applies geometric standards which best serve the understanding of the physical universe. It uses fictitious hyperspace, the number of whose dimensions rises infinitely with the number of the particles constituting the system under consideraation. --- Thus the methodological diifferrences thaqt come to light --- indicate a plurality of aspects under which reality may be viewed. The whole categorical system displays heterogeneity rather than uniformity."

"The Halakhic Mind" was written in 1944, long before the origin of String Theory which postulates 11 dimensions in one version and was designed to integrate quantum theory with relativity although it has yet to accomplish this.

Right now we are a long way from monism notwithstanding New Age wishes.

Len
 
Dear Len,

Your critique is much appreciated.

Thanks to you, I now see the flaw in my understanding of New Age claims about the Quantum Theory.

You seem to understand that it is not the legitimate science of Quantum Theory/Mechanics that I necessarily have a problem with.

It is the attempt on the part of New Agers to hijack the Quantum Theory and deploy it in the service of their own agenda that I reject.

In any case, it probably would be more accurate for me to say that what I reject is the attempt on the part of New Agers to disguise their monistic identification of matter with spirit ("consciousness") in the language of the Quantum Theory.

Having said that, I would add that
back when the Quantum Theory was first postulated, there were many variations of it.

While I am aware that Einstein made use of some elements of Planck's Quantum Theory, he was not totally in agreement with it.

In any case, I was not referring to Einstein. I was referring exclusively to Max Planck whose pantheistic view seems to have been a factor in his version of the Quantum Theory.

LOL Einstein doesn't seem to have cottoned to the idea of using the Quantum Theory as a means of "creating his own reality."

It was to Abraham Pais that Einstein posed the famous question,"Do you really believe the moon exists only when you look at it?"

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The following is an interesting article about Quantum Physics and the New Age.

While it mentions "Christian Theology," I am sure that there is much in the article that would apply to the other Abrahamic religions as well:

COMMON SENSE IN QUANTUM PHYSICS:

Principles, Interpretations,
and New Age Speculations
(and Christian Theology)

by Craig Rusbult, Ph.D.

New Physics and New Age?
What's all the fuss about? Since 1975, enthusiastic adcovates of "mystical physics" have claimed that the New Physics (especially Quantum Physics) lends scientific support to a pantheistic worldview of New Age beliefs about "creating your own reality." (*) But these claims, which are not scientifically justifiable, are based on implausible metaphysical speculations that are rejected by most scientists. By contrast, the views in this page are in the mainstream of conventional quantum physics, which is an excellent theory that I accept. I'm criticizing mystical physics, not conventional physics.
* mystical physics is advocated in books such as The Tao of Physics (Capra) and The Dancing Wu Li Masters (Zukav), plus Deepak Chopra (who was awarded the satirical Ig Nobel Prize for his quantum foolishness) on PBS television, and What the bleep do we know? with Wikipedia reporting (on 3-25-2007) that "this film has received widespread criticism from the scientific community; physicists, in particular, claim that the film grossly misrepresents the meaning of various principles of quantum mechanics, and is in fact pseudoscience."

note: quantum physics is also called quantum mechanics, quantum field theory, and quantum theory
.....read more...

http://tinyurl.com/qnx2yk

Regards,

Susanna
 
THE SOPHIA PROJECT ENTITY COMMUNICATIONS STUDY-
"The SOPHIA Project is being conducted under the direction of Gary E. Schwartz, PhD in the Laboratory for Advances in Consciousness and Health.
The first study in this project is the Entity Communications Study."

"PURPOSE AND OBJECTIVES:
The purpose of this study is to investigate the experiences of people who claim to channel or communicate with Deceased People, Spirit Guides, Angels, Other-Worldly Entities/ Extraterrestrials, and/or a Universal Intelligence/God. The ultimate objective is to investigate if these communications can be validated under controlled conditions."

"PHASE I:
Experiential Review/Personality Baseline:
In this phase, we will collect information about the experience of communicating with these entities from people who claim to be in contact with them on a regular basis. In addition, we will also have subjects complete standardized personality tests in order to correlate reported experiences with personality type."

"PHASE II:
Verification
The specific methodology of Phase II of the study will need to be determined after the data collection and analysis in Phase I reaches a level conducive to hypothesis development."

Link To U of A Article-
http://lach.web.arizona.edu/sophia/

Or Here-
http://tiny.cc/3sX8p

By His Grace,
-SV
 
Bilderberg 2009 Attendance List

Dutch Queen Beatrix,

Queen Sofia of Spain

Prince Constantijn Belgian Prince

Philip Ntavinion Etienne, Belgium

Joseph Akerman, Germany

Friends Alexander, United States (NSA)

Roger Altman, United States

Arapoglou, Greece (National Bank of Greece governor)

Ali Bampatzan, Turkey (Deputy Prime Minister responsible for economy)

Francisco Balsemao bidet, Portugal

Nicholas Bavarez, France

Franco Bernampe, Italy (Telecom Italia)

Xavie Bertran, France

Carl Bildt, Sweden (Secretary)

January Bgiorklount, Norway

Christoph Blocher, Switzerland

Alexander Bompar, France,

Boten Anna, Spain

Henri de Kastios, France

Juan-Luis Themprian, Spain

Clark Edmunds, Canada

Kenneth Clarke, Great Britain (TD Bank Financial Group)

Luc Cohen, Belgium

George David, Greece

Richard Ntiarlav, Great Britain

Mario Dragan, Italy (Italia VANCA d)

Elntroup Anders, Denmark

John Elkan, Italy (Fiat SRA)

Thomas Enders, Germany (Airbus SAS)

Jose Entrekanales, Spain

Isintro phenomena casket, Spain

Naial Fergkiouson, United States (Harvard University)

Timothy Gaitner, United States (Minister of Finance)

Ntermot convergence, Ireland (AIV Group)

Donald Graham, United States (Washington Post Company)

Victor Chalmperstant, Netherlands (Leiden University)

Ernst hirsh Ballin, Netherlands

Richard Holbrooke, the U.S. (Obama’s special envoy for Afghanistan and Pakistan)

Jaap De Hoop Scheffer, Netherlands (CC NATO)

James Jones, the U.S. (National Security Advisor to the White House)

Vernon Jordan, United States

Robert Keigkan, United States

Girki Katainen, Finland

John profit Britain (Royal Dutch Shell)

Mustafa Kots, Turkey (Group Kots)

Roland GT, Germany

Sami Cohen, Turkey (Journalist)

Henry Kissinger, United States

Marie Zose Ktavis, United States (Iudson Institute)

Neli Kroes, the Netherlands (European Commissioner for Competition)

Odysseas Kyriakopoulos, Greece (Group S & B)

Manuela Fereira mode, Portugal (PSD)

Bernarntino Leon, Spain

Jessica Matthews, United States

Philip Meis Tant (EIB)

Frank MakKena, Canada (TD Bank Financial Group)

John Mikelthgoueit, Great Britain (journalists, The Economist)

Tieri Montmprian de France (Franse Instituut) Tieri Montmprian de France (French Institute)

Mario Monti, Italy (University Louitzi Bokoni)

Angela Miguel Moratinos, Spain (Minister of Foreign Affairs)

Craig dirty, U.S. (Microsoft)

Egkil Miklempast, Norway

Mathias A, Germany

Olive Denis, France (Le Nouvel Observateur)

Frederick Ountea, France (Societe Generale)

Avg Ozntemir, Germany (Green Party)

Tomazo Pantoa-Siopa, Italy

Papalexopoulos Dimitris, Greece (Titan)

Richard Pearl, United States (Αmerican Enterprise Institute)

David Petreous, United States (head of the Central Administration of the U.S. Armed Forces)

Pint Manuel, Minister of Finance of Portugal

Robert Pritsarnt, Canada (Totstar Corporation)

Romano Prodi, Italy (former Italian Prime Minister)

Heather Raisman, Canada (Indigo Vooks & Music Inc.).

Eivint Reitan, Norway

Michael Rintzier, Czech Republic

David Rockefeller, U.S.

Dennis Ross, United States

Ruby Barnet, United States

Alberto Rouith-Gkalarthon, Spain

Susan Sampantzi Ntintzer, Turkey

Ιntira Samarasekera, Canada

Rountol Solten, Austria

Jürgen Stemp, Germany

Pedro Solbes Mira, Spain (Ministry of Finance)

Sampatzi Saraz, Turkey (banker)

Sanata Seketa, Canada (University of Canada)

Samer Lawrence, United States

Peter Sutherland, Ireland

Martin Taylor, UK

Peter Thiel, USA

Agan Ourgkout, Turkey

Eye Vanchanen, Finland, (Prime Minister)

Daniel Vazela, Switzerland,

Jeroen van der Veer, Netherlands

Guy Verhofstadt, Belgium (ex-Prime Minister)

Paul Volker, the U.S.

Jacob Valenmpergk, Sweden

Marcus Valenmpergk, Sweden

Nout Wellink, the Netherlands

Viser Hans, Netherlands

Martin Wolf, Great Britain (Financial Times Journalist)

James Goulfenson, United States (the former World Bank President)

Paul Goulfovits, United States

Farint Zakaria, United States (Analyst Journalist, Newsweek)

Robert Zoellick, United States (President World Bank)

Dora Bakoyannis, Greece (Minister of Foreign Affairs)

Anna Diamantopoulou, Greece (PASOK MP)

Papathanasiou, Greece (Minister of Finance)

Alogoskoufis, Greece (former Minister)

David, Greece (businessman, president of Coca-Cola 3E)
 
Constance,

I have always believed that identity theft would increase, and be one of the fears used to convince people that micro chip implants are a great thing.

Well, I'm not going to do that, but unfortunately I got a bill for well over 500 dollars on Friday for cell phone service, and Iv never in my life owned a cell phone.

I'm quite sure I know were this started.

Who do I report this to? What is the best thing for all of us to do to prevent identity theft, and should it happen to anyone, whats best to do next?

Mark
 
Joyce,

Hope you get well soon! Will keep you in my prayers.
 
This is a EU council meeting on advancement of the European Security and Defence Policy. It includes expansion of military capabilities in line with Civilian Capability Headline 2010 goals which include, civilian capabilities in militaty operations. Lots of info showing how the EU is becoming a military arm of UN goals. Lets not forget, mosof this either came from Solana, or is adding more capabilites to his office.

http://tinyurl.com/q8nu7a
 
I am amazed at the correlation of the Mark of the Beast with mind control. This is what I have always said. It will be like l984 if it is put into effect (who knows what God will allow). No one will be able to resist it. Therefore those who have it will not be able to worship God as we believe Him to be.

Therefore, the only way out is the rapture, or some other means of being removed prior to implementation of the Mark of the Beast. No one will be able to choose martyrdom after the Mark.

Mariel
 
Any of you read the world daily article on Girl scouts.
Definitely down the new age path:
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=97977
 
Rudi said: “But after a while, after I got over my initial shock, and started to actually listen to what he had to say, I began to feel respect for the boldness and honesty I was hearing, as well
as his refusal to play by the politically correct rules - he makes me think and I like seeing someone willing to tell it like it is and show some backbone. I don't necessarily agree with everything
he says, but I 100% stand behind his and all us to express our free speech rights on or off the public airways”
I heartily agree that many of these talk show hosts put their lives on the line. I once called the Michael Gram "show" and called him and Jay Severin courageous; Jay seems to have lost his job!
I believe this is an attempt to equate conservatives and constitutionalists with terrorists; the same thing the left, and don’t forget G.W., have been trying to do to believing Christians.
 
Mariel,

I don't know if your interpretation is correct. Hopefully it is, but biblically, I doubt it. There was a vast multitude standing in heaven who had overcome the beast by:

1) The blood of the lamb
2) The word of their testimony
3) THEY LOVED NOT THEIR LIVES UNTO THE DEATH.

Remember, too, the Daniel prophecies of the beast making war against God's people and prevailing against them for a time,times, and half a time (3 1/2 years).

Personally, I believe in praying for the best, but preparing for the worst.

No matter how it comes down, TRUST GOD!

He's got the big picture, we the small one. It's all in his hands and His perfect will!

Constance
 
Mark:

First,

Reject the bill IN WRITING.
Fax your rejection to them and keep the proof that the fax was resolved. You might also want to consider sending it by registered mail.

Make a police report and keep it. If you are sued on the bill, it will be a critical piece of information to prove you did not do this.


Good luck -- keep us posted!

Constance
 
Javier Solana has confirmed he will visit Bosnia-Herzegovina with U.S. Vice President Joe Biden Tuesday(today).
farmer
 
5/19//2009

Dear Susanna,

Your refernceded Rusbult article on quantum physics had a conclusion worth repeating (though I cannnot speak for Christianity):

"Religious Implications for Judaism and Christianity

"Nothing in the science of quantum physics — including its probabilistic abandonment of natural determinism — is a problem for Judeo-Christian believers, and all of its scientific principles can be easily integrated into a Bible-based monotheistic worldview.

"But quantum physics can be expanded, using nonscientific speculation, into mystical physics and a pantheistic worldview claiming that "the quantum-connected whole universe is god" and a New Age belief that "each of us is part of the unified whole so each of us is god" and "we create our own reality." This pantheistic new-age worldview is not compatible with a monotheistic worldview based on the Bible.

"{In pantheism, the universe creates god. In theism, God created the universe.}"

End quote!

The last paragraph in bowlegs is another way of describing the subjective monism of New Age. If everything comes from the mind then anything anyone believes (or spiritualizes) is as valid as any other's belief. There are no standards and no right or wrong. This is also applicable to liberal religions who cherry-pick the Bible by ignoring what they choose to ignore.

Pluralism in this context does not mean pluralistic subjective intepretations of an absolute objective standard. New Age nomism can be interpreted as allowing just this "anything goes" mentality.

How can we objectively know what is good? The quick Jewish response is to quote from the Psalms:

“The Lord knows the thoughts of men, that they are (subjective) vanity. Fortunate is the man whom You chastise, God, and whom You instruct from Your Torah, which is (objective) truth.” (Ps. 94:11-12, and Ps. 119:142)

A longer (though still concise) response follows
(for those with a philosophic bent):

Again quoting Rabbi Joseph Soloveitchik's “The Halakhic Mind,” he sees three problems in maintaining a subjectivist doctrine.

1. “It is almost impossible for a representative of a theistic, [revelatory] religion to satisfy his needs with mere *inward* religiosity...

“The philosopher, an adherent of [pantheistic religion], envisages God as primarily an infinite ideal to which he aspires. His philosophical religiosity is anthropocentric and anthropocratic. The point of departure is not God but the inward experience (of Him) which is considered creative, redeeming and inspiring... He is absorbed in his own self rather than in a transcendent God.... Religion then is attenuated into sentimentalism and God is arrested within inwardness.

“In contrast with the philosopher, the essential problem of the homo religiosus (in this context the believer of revealed religion) is a normative one. It is directed at explicit knowledge and concrete action and not at aboriginal, private, ‘immediate consciousness.’ ‘How should I act in my daily life? How should I live according to the will of God?’... He does not live in an isolated refuge of mental solitude; nor is he exclusively immersed in his own existence...

“[Revelatory] religion at the very outset excludes extravagant religious individualism. It is *not* the individual ego ... but the entire community that meets God... Biblical narrative concerning the prophets in Israel does not depict them as hermits who severed all intercourse with their fellow men and fled into the desert of mental seclusion. They were, above all, men of action dominated by an all-consuming passion for reform and change... The history and psychology of religion grows commensurately with increasing participation of the entire society in the religious drama...

2. “All attempts to divorce subjectivity from objective standards ... have been fraught with menace to ethical and cultural advancement.”

“The unguided inward life leads to the renunciation of ethical authority and moral awareness. Authority and unconditioned obedience form the background of the religious act. The elimination of the ‘ought’ in religion is synonymous with its corruption.”

3. “The character of religion is exoteric” [*not* esoteric].

“The religious act must be accessible to every member of the human race, philosopher and tyro alike. Aristocracy in the religious realm is identical with the decadence of religion. Whatever the telos of religion, be it salvation, perfection or ontological redemption, it is the dispensation of *all mankind*. The introduction of spiritualistic interpretations ... renders the religious act esoteric.

“If [man] is to participate fully in the religious performance then objective forms and principals must supplement subjectivity ... [and, indeed] lead to subjective acts; not the other way around.

(And here is the punch line summarized in the psalm citations above.)

“The canonized [Jewish] Scriptures serve as the most reliable standard of reference for objectivity. Through the method of reconstruction [via the Talmud and Halakha] God’s word, the letter of the Scriptures, becomes an inner word, a certainty, insight, confession of the God-thirsty soul. Deus dixit (God’s word) is the only objective source of all [revelatory] religion.”

Peace and blessing,
Len
 
5/19/2009

Several chapters of "The Halakhic Mind" are available on line here:

http://tinyurl.com/o8w4y3

Unfortunately, the chapter from which I quoted, Part III - 5, "The Method of Reconstruction," is not.

Len
 
Hi Mark,
Thank you for your prayers.
Blessings in Yeshua,
Joyce
 
Mariel,

God never bypasses our freewill, so He always gives us choice whether to eat of the tree of life, of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. No one will do massive brainwashing, unless we give them access to our minds. That is why it is soooo important, as I always stress here, to renew your mind with the living truth of God's Word. This is your best defense.

The seal of God is our faith in Yeshua and holding to His commandments ( that doesn't mean we are perfect) but faith goes hand in hand with obedience. ( see my response to Len on the last blog about Paul and James)

Rev. 14:11 “And the smoke of their torment goes up forever and ever; they have no rest day and night, those who cworship the beast and his cimage, and whoever receives the dmark of his name.”
Rev. 14:12 Here is the perseverance of the saints who keep the commandments of God and their faith in Jesus.

This is reminiscent of a scene from Exodus, where the Egyptians have plagues and Israel did not. You will notice, the Tribulation is going on, but God's servants are protected. You will notice that the seal of God is on their heads. The mark of the Beast can also be on ones head or hand, but the mark of the Beast has to do with being dependent on the world system economically and otherwise, instead of being dependent on God.

Rev. 9:3 Then out of the smoke came locusts upon the earth, and power was given them, as the scorpions of the earth have power.
Rev. 9:4 They were told not to ahurt the bgrass of the earth, nor any green thing, nor any tree, but only the men who do not have the seal of God on their foreheads.

Rev. 16:2 So the first angel went and poured out his bowl on the earth; and it became a loathsome and malignant bsore on the people who had the mark of the beast and who worshiped his image.

Rev. 13:17 and he provides that no one will be able to buy or to sell, except the one who has the amark, either the name of the beast or the number of his name.

This "mark" seems to be required to do transactions like buying and selling, unlike the seal of God, which has all to do with having God's righteousness.

The Greek word for mark and seal are entirely different, so I won't go into all that here, but a seal is . The word for what we are when we receive the Holy Spirit in Ephesians, is the same Greek word for seal.

I would point out that Paul said we should read Torah and specifically the Exodus story because the instructions given by God to Moses will be for our benefit in the end of days. We must learn these lessons. God fed the Israelites in the desert, so we should not worry about food. He fed Elijah when there was a famine in the Kingdom, so we only need Yeshua's righteousness and to keep His commandments. Our testimony is that if the choice is given to follow Yeshua, or follow the Beast, our choice will be our testimony of Yeshua over death. If we lose our life, we lose our life, we will be resurrected with Yeshua and reign with Him in the Millennial Kingdom.

We will lose our life anyway, because the Beast system will be destroyed and the Beast will be put in the lake of fire, so the choice of who to follow is pretty clear.

When I spoke of the Global Coherence type system being tied into the beast system or being connected in some way, I am assuming one will have to eventually take some kind of "mark". Whether the mark is Verichip, or something different, time will tell, but there will come a day when the powers that be will want to "monitor" everyone. We are heading there. I just read in today IHT that they are now looking at people naked in airport monitors ( Israel has done this for a long time). There are chips in many bank cards. ( See American Express Blue). Europe has had chipped cards instead of the swipe for a long time.

There are chips in everything from our phones to our computers, and one day, most likely they will try to put something of this nature in our heads or hands. They will start off by giving good reasons security wise, or for medical reasons, or for Alzheimers or to prevent identity theft. There is always a reason.

Call me paranoid, but I believe the whole idea of mass vaccination is a subtile kind of behavioral programming to get people to act like sheep, whether you believe in vaccines or not. Personally, I don't.

All of these events which are being measured by Global Consciousness Project and this Global Coherence will be billed as ways to bring peace, stop stress, measure earthquakes, predict terrorist attacks, etc, etc.. There is ALWAYS a reason.

Beware of people offering tiny devices that you carry on your person that will allow you to monitor stress, reduce stress, help ADD kids. I hope you get my drift. I think we have to be especially discerning in these days and not assume that everyone is out for our best interests..

Many will innocently go along with all of these programs but Scripture says we are to be as shrewd as serpents and as innocent as doves.


and as the wise Prophet Isaiah said:

Is. 8:13 “It is the aLORD of hosts bwhom you should regard as holy.
And He shall be your fear,
And He shall be your dread.
Is. 8:14 “Then He shall become a asanctuary;
But to both the houses of Israel, a bstone to strike and a rock to stumble over,
And a snare and a ctrap for the inhabitants of Jerusalem.
Is. 8:15 “Many awill stumble over them,
Then they will fall and be broken;
They will even be snared and caught.”
Is. 8:16 Bind up the testimony, seal the 1law among my disciples.
Is. 8:17 And I will await for the LORD bwho is hiding His face from the house of Jacob; I will even look eagerly for Him.
Is. 8:18 aBehold, I and the children whom the LORD has given me are for bsigns and wonders in Israel from the LORD of hosts, who cdwells on Mount Zion.


God says to "seal Torah among His disciples" . When we hear His voice, obey His instructions and keep HIs commands, we will not stumble. Yeshua is not separate from His Word. He is the Word. When we understand this, we will see that the Word is for our instruction or as Paul said:

Look what the people of Ancient Israel did, when God had already delivered them from Egypt:

1Cor. 10:4 and all adrank the same spiritual drink, for they were drinking from a spiritual rock which followed them; and the rock was 1Christ.
1Cor. 10:5 Nevertheless, with most of them God was not well-pleased; for athey were laid low in the wilderness.
1Cor. 10:6 ¶ Now these things happened as examples for us, so that we would not crave evil things as they also craved.
1Cor. 10:7 Do not be idolaters, as some of them were; as it is written, “THE PEOPLE SAT DOWN TO EAT AND DRINK, AND STOOD UP TO LAY.”
1Cor. 10:8 Nor let us act immorally, as asome of them did, and twenty-three thousand fell in one day.
1Cor. 10:9 Nor let us try the Lord, as some of them did, and were destroyed by the serpents.
1Cor. 10:10 Nor grumble, as some of them 1did, and were destroyed by the destroyer.
1Cor. 10:11 Now these things happened to them as an aexample, and bthey were written for our instruction, upon whom the ends of the ages have come.

Go back to those passages and see how God delivered them. He gave them Living Water, and the Bread of Life, but that wasn't good enough. They committed idolatry. They did not take Him at His Word and as a result, they did not enter into His rest.

This is the passage that talks about Shabbat. For this reason, if we observe Shabbat and know that it is about Yeshua, and the ultimate rest we will enter, the 7th day, the Millennial Kingdom, we will be prepared. These commands are all to teach us, not to punish us.

Heb. 3:6 but Christ was faithful as aa Son over His house — bwhose house we are, cif we hold fast our dconfidence and the boast of our ehope firm until the end.
Heb. 3:7 ¶ Therefore, just as athe Holy Spirit says,
“bTODAY IF YOU HEAR HIS VOICE,
Heb. 3:8 aDO NOT HARDEN YOUR HEARTS AS 1WHEN THEY PROVOKED ME,
AS IN THE DAY OF TRIAL IN THE WILDERNESS,
Heb. 3:9 aWHERE YOUR FATHERS TRIED Me BY TESTING Me,
AND SAW MY WORKS FOR bFORTY YEARS.
Heb. 3:10 “aTHEREFORE I WAS ANGRY WITH THIS GENERATION,
AND SAID, ‘THEY ALWAYS GO ASTRAY IN THEIR HEART,
AND THEY DID NOT KNOW MY WAYS’;
Heb. 3:11 aAS I SWORE IN MY WRATH,
‘THEY SHALL NOT ENTER MY REST.’”
Heb. 3:12 aTake care, brethren, that there not be in any one of you an evil, unbelieving heart 1that falls away from bthe living God.
Heb. 3:13 But aencourage one another day after day, as long as it is still called “Today,” so that none of you will be hardened by the bdeceitfulness of sin.
Heb. 3:14 For we have become partakers of Christ, aif we hold fast the beginning of our bassurance firm until the end,
Heb. 3:15 while it is said,
“aTODAY IF YOU HEAR HIS VOICE,
DO NOT HARDEN YOUR HEARTS, AS 1WHEN THEY PROVOKED ME.”
Heb. 3:16 For who aprovoked Him when they had heard? Indeed, bdid not all those who came out of Egypt led by Moses?
Heb. 3:17 And with whom was He angry for forty years? Was it not with those who sinned, awhose bodies fell in the wilderness?
Heb. 3:18 And to whom did He swear athat they would not enter His rest, but to those who were bdisobedient?
Heb. 3:19 So we see that they were not able to enter because of aunbelief.
Heb. 4:1 ¶ Therefore, let us fear if, while a promise remains of entering His rest, any one of you may seem to have acome short of it.
Heb. 4:2 For indeed we have had good news preached to us, just as they also; but athe word 1they heard did not profit them, because 2it was not united by faith in those who heard.
Heb. 4:3 For we who have believed enter that rest, just as He has said,
“aAS I SWORE IN MY WRATH,
THEY SHALL NOT ENTER MY REST,”
although His works were finished from the foundation of the world.

Because God is outside of time, Satan was already defeated. God's plan had already been executed. God created time and He created the 7th day to teach us about the time when we will enter His eternal rest. We already have in Yeshua, but knowing this in our day, is very important.

Spiritual realities, when walked out become more ingrained in our minds and we begin to walk in the delight of knowing what has been done for us already. That's why God commanded us to keep the Sabbath. Keeping it reminds us constantly of this future reality that we have in Yeshua. It's the sign that we are His people. A sign and a seal are the identification marks that show who we belong to.

That is also why in Zech 8:23 it says that 10 men will hold the tzizit of a Jew ( It won't say tzizit in your translation but that's what the corner of a Jew's garment is). 10 men from the nations represent, both Ephraim in the nations, but the nations themselves who will grab hold of Torah.

There's a reason wy 144,000 from the 12 tribes are "sealed" in the book of Revelations. You hear nothing about all of these tribes in the Apostles writings until Revelations, because God will restore the tribal identities of Israel.

Sometimes these verses may seem mysterious, but when we understand them in the context of the rest of Scripture, Torah and the Prophets, they make perfect sense. When we understand God's plan to restore all Israel, the rest of Scripture will make much more sense.

The big problem is we have divided it into an "old" and "new" testament. How many passages in Torah and Prophets are still not fulfilled? How can something that has not yet been fulfilled be old?

Ask yourself these questions as you read the Scriptures. When one the prophets says "in that day" he's talking about the last days.

Sorry that was a little long, but this is very important and is our very life, in the days in which we live.

Hope that makes sense.

Joyce
 
5/19/2009

Dear Joyce,

I just read your message explaining the detail in your others, and that you were ill.

Unfortunately the format of this forum makes it easy to miss stuff, and difficult to search even with the "Find" capability.

I noticed your link to the peace technology site but it turned out broken. When I put your phrase in the Google search box I came up with 26 MILLION hits:-) So things may be even worse than you thought. I did find the "mind-control" one -- Scary!!!

I am glad you well enough to continue posting and I wish you a speedy and perfect recovery.

Len
 
Dear Len,

We are in agreement.

The quote about Quantum Physics prefaced with the title,"Religious Implications for Judaism and Christianity is as applicable for Christianity as it is for Judaism.

I don't think I could have stated things more clearly than that article did.

As a Christian I believe that God created all things "ex nihilo."

Valid science, moreover, is morally neutral. I believe that it is how we use science that can be "good" or "evil."

I am still in learning mode concerning Quantum Physics and Quantum Mechanics so I am still exploring the ways in which the New Age is misusing it. This is why I believe that it is worth having something of a working knowledge of WHAT Quantum Physics actually is.

Here is a gem I came across.

I am going to have to reread it a few more times before I really understand everything it says. :-)

QUANTUM MYSTICISM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_mysticism

I have to go for now, but I will be checking in later.

Regards,

Susanna
 
Joyce,

Sorry to hear you are ill. I will certainly keep you in my prayers.

God Bless,

Susanna
 
Dear Constance and Mariel,

Constance, just to add to your comment to Mariel about trusting God....

I have forgotten where I first heard the following poem, but I would like to share it in case anyone hasn't heard of it:

Weavings

My life is but a weaving
Between my God and me.
I may choose the colors BUT
He knows what they should be.

For He can view the pattern
Upon the upper side
While I see it only….
On the underside.

Sometimes He weaveth sorrow
Which seemeth strange to me
But I will trust His judgment
And work on faithfully.

Tis He who fills the shuttle
For He knows what is best
And I shall weave in earnest
And leave with Him the rest.

At last when life has ended
With Him I shall abide
Then I may view the pattern
Upon the other side.

Then I shall know the reason
Why pain with joy entwined
Was woven in the fabric
Of life that God designed.


--Shawnee Kellie
 
5/19/2009

Dear Susanna,

"Wierdness" is a better word than "mysticism" for describing quantum phenomena. I Googled "Quantum Wierdness" and got 43,600 hits but this one provides a classic dramatization on YouTube of the non-local nature of quantum phenomena. Classical physical events are local, wrt cause and effect, whereas quantum physics is not.

http://tinyurl.com/rbkxa4

If you are adventurous, a more detailked e4xxplanation is given in this excerpt from "The Whole Shebang," an excellent book on astrophysics by Timothy Ferris:

http://tinyurl.com/owkkrd

Len
 
5/19/2009

Dear Joyce,

I have given up on responding to every one of your Scripturally dubious references as you are more prolific than I, there are not enough hours in the day to keep up, and I don't want a religious war here.

However, unless you are unaware, the least you can do is to provide credit to the Tanakh source for NT quotations like the one from Hebrews which was lifted from Psalm 95:

6 Come, let us prostrate ourselves and bow; let us kneel before the Lord, our Maker. 7 For He is our God, and we are the people of His pasture and the flocks of His hand, today, if you hearken to my voice. 8 Do not harden your heart as [in] Meribah, as [on] the day of Massah in the desert. 9 When your ancestors tested Me; they tried Me, even though they had seen My work. 10 Forty years I quarreled with a generation, and I said, "They are a people of erring hearts and they did not know My ways." 11 For which reason I swore in My wrath, that they would not enter My resting place. (Judaica Press)

And when you quoted Isaiah Ch. 56 why did you omit the Vs. 8 punch line?

1 So says the Lord, "Keep justice and practice righteousness, for My salvation is near to come, and My benevolence to be revealed." 2 Fortunate is the man who will do this and the person who will hold fast to it, he who keeps the Sabbath from profaning it and guards his hand from doing any evil. 3 Now let not the foreigner who joined the Lord, say, "The Lord will surely separate me from His people," and let not the eunuch say, "Behold, I am a dry tree." 4 For so says the Lord to the eunuchs who will keep My Sabbaths and will choose what I desire and hold fast to My covenant, 5 "I will give them in My house and in My walls a place and a name, better than sons and daughters; an everlasting name I will give him, which will not be discontinued. 6 And the foreigners who join with the Lord to serve Him and to love the name of the Lord, to be His servants, everyone who observes the Sabbath from profaning it and who holds fast to My covenant. 7 I will bring them to My holy mount, and I will cause them to rejoice in My house of prayer, their burnt offerings and their sacrifices shall be acceptable upon My altar, for My house shall be called a house of prayer for all peoples. 8 So says the Lord God, Who gathers in the dispersed of Israel, I will yet gather others to him, together with his gathered ones.

Len
 
Dear Len,

Thanks for the link. I will certainly give it my best shot.

Re:the following passage you quoted makes a very good point:

“[Revelatory] religion at the very outset excludes extravagant religious individualism. It is *not* the individual ego ... but the entire community that meets God... Biblical narrative concerning the prophets in Israel does not depict them as hermits who severed all intercourse with their fellow men and fled into the desert of mental seclusion. They were, above all, men of action dominated by an all-consuming passion for reform and change... The history and psychology of religion grows commensurately with increasing participation of the entire society in the religious drama...Regarding the objectivity of Divine Revelation - and I am deliberately confining myself to discussing the Old Testament here -the objective authenticity of the revelation given by God to Moses, for example, was proven beyond a reasonable doubt to the Chosen People by way of astonishing and unprecedented miracles that were witnessed by all.

I am sure that Moses would have loved nothing more than to have fled into the desert in mental seclusion and to have been left in peace.

LOL One is reminded of Tevye the Milkman in FIDDLER ON THE ROOF who looks up to Heaven and asks God "Just once Lord couldn't you "choose" somebody else?"

But no! God wanted Moses, and none of Moses' excuses were going to get him off the hook. In fact, when Moses complained that he was not a good speaker, God even appointed Aaron as Moses' mouthpiece.

Even after God speaks to Moses from the burning bush (which was not consumed by the burning) Moses is concerned about how he is going to describe this God to the people and how he is going to convince them that this God is for real and not just the figment of a madman's imagination.

Of course, one of the first signs that this encounter with God was not merely a figment of Moses' imagnation was that Moses' face reflected the glory of God so brilliantly after said encounter(he "saw God" and lived to tell about it remember) that he had to wear a veil over his face so the people wouldn't be afraid to approach him. Moses only removed this veil when he went into the tent of meeting to talk to God and when he came out to tell the people what God told him. Otherwise, he always wore the veil. The glory on Moses' face was a constant reminder that Moses had been with God.

The rest is history.

I say "history" because if the news report is true, archaeologists have recently claimed to have found what they believe to be Pharaoh's chariots in the Red Sea.

http://tinyurl.com/ewcc


The magicians of Pharaoh,(whose Rabbinical names were Iamnes and Mambres) however, were another story.

They used the bogus "miracles" of their magic - NOT for the benefit of their fellow men among the rank and file - but rather to preserve the status quo - which included their own powerful role in presiding over the worship of Pharaoh as "god."

In spite of all their worldly accomplishments, the understanding of God on the part of the ancient Egyptians in the time of Moses was, in many ways, like that of children in a schoolyard with a "my god can beat up your God" mentality.

This is why God permitted the contest between Moses and Pharaoh's magicians until the magicians finally conceded that "this is the finger of God" when they were unable to turn dust into bugs. Exodus 8:19

So much for monism and "creating your own reality." LOL

One would think that after such a spectacle in which Egypt came up very much the loser, occultists would want to leave the "traditions" of Egypt in the dust.

But it seems instead that the occultists of the Occident tend to want to take that road back to Egypt so that they can keep trying to magically put Osiris back together again. :-)
 
Len,

There is nothing dubious at all about what I've shared, but there is no need for you to respond, unless you so desire. I don't mark every reference, to Tanach when I quote from the Newer Covenant, just in the interests of time and space. One day, you will see what I see, but not by us debating, so

There was no particular reason why I did not put vs 8. You know very well that I know that the Lord is going to gather the scattered ones of Israel. I talk about this a lot here, in case you have not read my posts.

The question was, as I recall, whether those who were strangers should celebrate Shabbat, so I was addressing the question, no more, no less.

As you probably realize, there are those in the nations who are Israel and don't know that they are because of years of scattering and assimilation. Oddly enough, there are many in the churches today who are being drawn to the mo'ed and eating kosher and studying the Torah.

I won't be dogmatic about this and say that they are all physical descendants of Jacob, but one does wonder if some of them might not be.

Only God Himself knows this, but I do think as Torah goes out to the nations, the lost sheep within the nations will hear Abba's voice and respond to Torah, especially this generation as we see Eze 37 being fulfilled.

I would never discourage a gentile believer in the Bible from celebrating Shabbat. When the mixed multitude came out of Egypt, God explained in many instances that the instructions were the same for the alien as the native born. I don't buy into the "Noahide laws". That's a rabbinic invention. Tanakh doesn't talk about Noahide laws.

This is a way of putting a dividing wall between those who want to worship the God of Israel and the Jews. The dividing wall was very much an invention of Second Temple Judaism and was not at all part of Torah. Paul understood that God's house was to be a house of prayer for all the nations, and that the particular character of the Second Temple had added to Torah. He addresses the subject of this separation in Ephesians 2.

Now I understand why Jews have worked so hard to stay separate, to not assimilate. This is understandable given our history, but in this defensive posture of separating ourselves, we must not forget why God chose Israel, to begin with.

The Jews, the visible remnant of Israel today must fulfill their role to bring Torah to the nations. I am speaking of course of the written Torah. Interestingly enough, the Jews that I know who are doing this are Messianic Jews for the most part. Notice, I didn't say they were supposed to convert the nations to Judaism.. I said they are to bring Torah to the nations.

When you get on a blog with predominately Gentile believers and tell them not to celebrate Shabbat, that it's only for Jews, you are misleading them and you are not teaching them Torah.. I'm sorry to say this, but you know it's the truth.

Solomon's Temple had no dividing wall. You should share the blessings of Torah with the nations. Who knows, maybe there are some from the House of Israel who visit this blog and might come home like a Prodigal Son...

Oh, by the way, for the rest of the readers of the blog, the story of the Prodigal Son could just as easily be talking about the House of Judah ( Jews.. the good son who stayed in the Father's house and obeyed) and the House of Israel in the nations who went out among the swine. Remember how the Father welcomed him home with open arms and
killed the fatted calf for him.

b'shem Yeshua
Joyce
 
Until a certain person came to this blog and started posting things that were many feet long, it was much easier to understand the trends of the New Age movement. Now it has become impossible to wade through what appears to be miles of commentary to find nuggets of valuable information.

Would it be possible for those who feel the need to do such long posts to start with a subject line?
 
The reason some person feels the need to post miles of opinions here (most of which have nothing to do with Constance's research and everything to do with becoming a prophetess of our times)is because they know that if they took many other posters' advice and began a blog of their own, hardly no one would ever visit it! Therefore, that person uses Constance and Rich to make sure their ideas are at least seen (if not always heard). I'm with Farmer who stated a few blogs back that he's tired of rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic. Take Constance's advice and instead of coming to the deck and looking at all the new arrangement of the prophetess' chairs, scroll over them. You really won't miss many nuggets.
 
Joyce, are all of the members of your extended family saved by your standards? What do you think will happen to them after they die?
 
5/19/2009

Joyce wrote: “there is no need for you to respond, unless you so desire. I don't mark every reference, to Tanach when I quote from the Newer Covenant, just in the interests of time and space. One day, you will see what I see, but not by us debating, so “

I said I would not respond when you discuss Christian ideas regardless of my views. But when you write me directly, or distort Judaism which you often do, I must respond as I did to your final post on the previous blog – twice.

The Tanakh is not called a “covenant” as it contains several covenants as well as much other material; historic and legal. Certainly it is not “old” because it is eternal by its own say-so. The revelation at Sinai, unlike the “newer” revelation, is the only one ever witnessed by an entire nation as contrasted with a handful of apostles (Christianity) or a single individual (Isalm). Not only that; but the Tanakh says this never happened before and will never occur again:

Isaiah 43: 9 All the nations are gathered together, and the peoples are assembled; who among them can declare this, and announce to us former things? Let them bring their witnesses, that they may be justified; and let them hear, and say: 'It is truth.' 10 You are My witnesses, says the LORD, and My servant whom I have chosen; that you may know and believe Me, and understand that I am He; before Me there was no God formed, neither shall any be after Me. 11 I, am the LORD; and beside Me there is no savior.

You yourself contradicted your patronizing prophecy that I will someday see what you see but you are too hypnotized to realize it. You contradicted it when you quoted Zechariah about how some day “ten men of all the languages of the nations shall take hold of the skirt of a Jewish man, saying, ‘Let us go with you, for we have heard that God is with you.’" (8:23)

You contradicted it when you rationalized omitting Isaiah 56:8 out of your extensive citation through Vs. 7 though I imagine that you may have unconsciously understood its implications all too well. It is not about immigration into the land of Israel but about the merciful Father bringing more “foreigners” into the Jewish covenant; the “old” covenant.

Is 56:3 Now let not the foreigner who joined the Lord, say, "The Lord will surely separate me from His people," and let not the eunuch say, "Behold, I am a dry tree." 4 For so says the Lord to the eunuchs who will keep My Sabbaths and will choose what I desire and hold fast to My covenant, 5 "I will give them in My house and in My walls a place and a name, better than sons and daughters; an everlasting name I will give him, which will not be discontinued. 6 And the foreigners who join with the Lord to serve Him and to love the name of the Lord, to be His servants, everyone who observes the Sabbath from profaning it and who holds fast to My covenant. 7 I will bring them to My holy mount, and I will cause them to rejoice in My house of prayer, their burnt offerings and their sacrifices shall be acceptable upon My altar, for My house shall be called a house of prayer for all peoples. 8 So says the Lord God, Who gathers in the dispersed of Israel, I will yet gather others to him, together with his gathered ones.

Now I understand why Jews have worked so hard to stay separate, to not assimilate. This is understandable given our history, but in this defensive posture of separating ourselves, we must not forget why God chose Israel, to begin with.

Joyce>>When you get on a blog with predominately Gentile believers and tell them not to celebrate Shabbat, that it's only for Jews, you are misleading them and you are not teaching them Torah.. I'm sorry to say this, but you know it's the truth.

You are the misleading one. You asked whether God is a liar. Evidently you think He is when He wrote:

Exod 31: 16 Thus shall the children of Israel observe the Sabbath, to make the Sabbath throughout their generations as an everlasting covenant. 17 Between Me and the children of Israel, it is forever a sign that [in] six days The Lord created the heaven and the earth, and on the seventh day He ceased and rested."

When my rabbi teaches a gentile about Judaism in preparation for conversion he emphasizes that the potential convert must not observe Sabbath perfectly till after the conversion is complete. So the person drives to the synagogue; something he will not do afterwards.

Len
 
Anon 1:19 & 1:38,

If you take issue with what is posted by any individual, correct, forgive, and move on. Lets not forget to show love in doing so either. I have seen way too many posts like these, which are no more than blind side attacks that do nothing to address what you perceive as a problem. Your exclusion mentality speaks NOTHING for our Lord! If you feel she or anyone else is wrong, correct them in the way you are supposed to, with scripture! If you are uncomfortable with what you perceive as an attack on dogma of your denomination, rebut with scripture that actually supports your view. Other wise remember denominations and their dogma were created by man, not our Father. We are all part of one body, and all at some point are in error. Correct, FORGIVE, and move on!!!
 
Constance, if the mark of the beast allows us to have mental volition, then it would be possible to choose martyrdom. I doubt if anyone will be able to refuse the mark of the beast.
It might be possible to choose starvation, isolation, etc. unless they just force you to take it, and they can force you...but maybe they would not consider it worth bothering to force you. More likely just shoot you. I suppose some people will be taken to camps before execution...and thus they would be martyrs, as you say, washed in the blood of the lamb.

Perhaps the mark will come along with vaccination, and be required, or even inserted without one's knowing it.

I live in a technologicallly advanced community where people are capable of plotting such ways of control of populace. They don't tell me they are doing it...I am just a civilian who happened to land here by a great misfortune. But I know they are capable of doing it.

I am amazed that people think they will still have some degree of normality in their lives if the NWO takes over. Some people think it's possible to resist the NWO--look at all the committees and websites and organizations trying to resist. But if we believe the Bible, the last days will not allow any shred of normality. That's one reason some people just reject the Bible and say it is written by mad people imagining Armageddon; they cannot imagine it can actually be as bad as it is portrayed in the Bible.

Mariel
 
Susanna,

You are a treasure. Your posts on this and the last thread are so very thoughtful and informative.
 
Town halls hire citizen snoopers as young as SEVEN to spy on neighbours and report wrongs

Children as young as seven are being recruited by councils to act as 'citizen snoopers', the Daily Mail can reveal.
The 'environment volunteers' will report on litter louts, noisy neighbours - and even families putting their rubbish out on the wrong day.
There are currently almost 9,000 people signed up to the schemes. More are likely to be recruited in the coming months.
Controversially, some councils are running 'junior' schemes which are recruiting children

http://tinyurl.com/q4yzj4
 
Len,
Now you have understood Paul. Paul did not believe that someone had to "convert" to Judaism because Judaism is not Torah. Judaism is derived from Torah, but it came later on, post-Babylon.

You have now begun to understand many of the corrections that Yeshua made and Paul, when they confronted the religious leaders of their day.

Sabbath is not only for Jews. The verse I quoted from Isaiah, which I will quote again is very clear:

Is. 56:6 “Also the aforeigners who join themselves to the LORD,
To minister to Him, and to love the name of the LORD,
To be His servants, every one who bkeeps from profaning the sabbath
And holds fast My covenant;
Is. 56:7 Even those I will bring to My holy mountain
And cmake them joyful in My house of prayer.
Their burnt offerings and their sacrifices will be acceptable on dMy altar;
For eMy house will be called a house of prayer for all the peoples.”

Conversion to Judaism is never ONCE mentioned in Torah.

In speaking of Pesach, the Lord says to Moses:

Ex. 12:49 “The same law shall apply to the native as to the stranger who sojourns among you.”

In the Millennial Kingdom, God says whoever is left in the nations will celebrate Succot:

Zech. 14:16-17Then it will come about that any who are left of all the nations that went against Jerusalem will ago up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, and to celebrate the Feast of Booths. And it will be that whichever of the families of the earth does not go up to Jerusalem to worship the aKing, the LORD of hosts, there will be no rain on them.


In the Newer Covenant, James expected the new Gentile believers from the nations to go to the synagogue every SABBATH.. that was without conversion. This is the subject of Jerusalem Council:

They would start by eating Biblically clean food, since Yacov would never have called pig or shellfish food, we know what he was talking about here:

Acts 15:20 but that we write to them that they abstain from things contaminated by idols and from bfornication and from cwhat is strangled and from blood.
Acts 15:21 “For Moses from ancient generations has in every city those who preach him, since 1he is read in the synagogues every Sabbath.”

And then they would go to the synagogue on Shabbat.

The followers of Yeshua understood that Torah was for the nations, but conversion by a rabbi to Judaism was something that developed because of the diapsora, and the rabbis tried to build fences around Torah.

To this day, these fences add things to God's Word that are not there:

Deut. 4:2 “You shall not add to the word which I am commanding you, nor take away from it, that you may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you.

God never told anyone to convert to Judaism because when God gave Moses Torah, Judaism was non-existent. It is strictly a development of Babylonian exile, and most Christians do not understand this history so they believe that Judaism started at Sinai. If they read their Bibles carefully, they will discover that Torah was given at Sinai. Israel was one unified, called-out assembly, including foreigners who attached to Israel.

Israel was not only Jews, but all 12 tribes, and because of disobedience 10 of the tribes were scattered to be brought back at a later date through a newer, better, improved covenant in the blood of Yeshua, in which Torah will be put on their minds once and for all.

I am not for the isms, Len.. I am for Torah, and Yeshua, the Word who became flesh and dwelt among us, who redeemed us by His precious blood, who gave Him self up so that we may have life.

Your rabbi is putting up a dividing wall, but I understand that he doesn't know that Yeshua came to break this down. This is the real interfaith dialogue. . My house will be a house of prayer for ALL the nations..

But your rabbi doesn't want a Gentile to celebrate Shabbat.. this is tragic.

Joyce
 
JD, you weren't around when the blog threads moved faster and were more informative. Check out some of the early dates. There are still a few readers who want to learn about the New Age movement without having to wade through theology lessons. Sorry if you feel offended by a simple suggestion.
 
Robert Schuller is involved in a new conference. It is called "Get Motivated". Perhaps we should rename it, "get some new age nonsense." Most of these speakers are not a surprise as their ties to the New Age are documented already. Some, I don't know if they do or not, but it wouldn't surprise me.

http://www.getmotivated.com/city.aspx?a=5064
Speakers are as follows (with New Age connections):

*Colin Powell
*Zig Zigler
*Robert Schuller
*Rudy Giuliani
*Steve Forbes
* Laura Bush

Those who I am unsure about the new age connection but it wouldn't surprise me:

*Joe Montana
*Tamara Lowe
*Bob Stoops


When I was googling, I found this link: http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/131/RipOff0131747.htm#96971

or http://tiny.cc/LscST

In one of the comments named "No bait in switch" lists different speakers over the years.

Very interesting.
 
Dear Len,

That video "Quantum Wierdness" was definitely worth watching!

These are just my thoughts....and I am not pretending in any way to be a scientific "expert."

If I understand the QUANTUM WIERDNESS video correctly, scientists don't seem to be able to explain WHY it appears that the "observer" effects the thing observed by the very act of observing.

But this is nevertheless exactly one of the points co-opted by New Agers who interpret it in terms of their subjectivist view that "reality" depends upon their experience.

I guess I am in the Einstein camp. I don't think he ever changed his determinist (cause and effect) view, but I am willing to stand corrected if I am mistaken.

I would have likewise refused to let go of my classical determinist (cause and effect) view of reality.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Determinism

I also don't think I would be able to get my mind around the idea that I had caused something to occur simply in the act of observing it.

I do not accept a view of reality where the "measuring rod" is NOT independent of the things being measured.

Like Einstein, I too would think "something is missing" or "something is wrong with this picture."

IMHO, something is flawed, and I don't necessarily believe that the scientists have been able to demonstrate what they claim they have been able to demonstrate. (like "global warming" LOL ) But that's just me.

C.S. Lewis once made a very interesting observation.

"What you get from your experience depends upon the beliefs you bring to your experience."

Is there any absolute guarantee that certain scientists aren't making the "results" of their experiments with subatomic particles say what they want them to say?

That said "results" are not "results" at all...but instead are ready-made opinions made to appear as "results?"

The reason I would even think to ask a question like this is because in Nazi Germany, Einstein's work was called "Jewish Physics" as opposed to the "Deutsche Physic" or "Aryan Physics."which began as an extension of a German nationalistic movement in the physics community.

It is interesting to consider the following in "Quantum Theory" terms of "the observer" and "the thing observed."

Deutsche Physik has been compared to some contemporary postmodern positions, particularly the idea that science is somehow influenced by a scientist's gender, ethnicity or cultural background. For example, Noam Chomsky has said of postmodern attempts to criticise science:

In fact, the entire idea of "white male science" reminds me, I'm afraid, of "Jewish physics". Perhaps it is another inadequacy of mine, but when I read a scientific paper, I can't tell whether the author is white or is male. The same is true of discussion of work in class, the office, or somewhere else. I rather doubt that the non-white, non-male students, friends, and colleagues with whom I work would be much impressed with the doctrine that their thinking and understanding differ from "white male science" because of their "culture or gender and race." I suspect that "surprise" would not be quite the proper word for their reaction......
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deutsche_Physik

I hope I am making sense. :-)
 
Anonymous 2:47 P.M.

Thank you for your kind words of support.

Regards,
Susanna
 
Dear Len,

Here are a few gems.

INTERPRETATION OF QUANTUM MECHANICS

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interpretation_of_quantum_mechanics
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MANY WORLDS INTERPRETATION

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Many-worlds_interpretation
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BOHR-EINSTEIN DEBATES

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki
/Bohr%E2%80%93
Einstein_debates
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Anon 4:06,

While I can understand and empathize with your position, (no offense meant here take this at its base) maybe one shouldn't think so much about their individual wants and desires. There are some I am sure who remain here as lurkers, who are not believers. To expose NA activity is great, however not to provide the proper alternative is an enormous error. If a reader finds even an ounce of truth from anything Joyce or anyone else has posted regarding the gospel and comes to know our Messiah, then in my mind sifting through the extra posts is worth it. There are still plenty of people doing their share of informative posting, for one to still find new information. Not to mention the great links Constance has provided on the front page, which if you check frequently provide a wealth of info. All I am trying to say is to take a "this person should be excluded because we don't like what they bring to the table" type of stance, is to adopt the exact methods the NA uses towards christianity.
 
P.S.

Len, here are a couple more.

UNCERTAINTY PRINCIPLE

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncertainty_principle
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The following is the first article I have seen that explains causal changes to the phenomena being observed in a way that doesn't make it sound as if something like "telekinesis" has occurred. LOL

OBSERVER EFFECT (Physics)

In physics, the term observer effect refers to changes that the act of observation will make on the phenomenon being observed.

This is often the result of instruments that, by necessity, alter the state of what they measure in some manner. This effect can be observed in many domains of physics.....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Observer_effect_(physics)


All I have to say is "WHEW!!!" :-)
 
JD,
I am not the anonymous you are speaking to but, you have missed their point. Your thought that "this person should be excluded because we don't like what they bring to the table" is spot on however, it's not what Joyce 'brings to the table' many (most) don't like. It's HOW she brings it to the table most have a problem with. The manner in which she bashes others' research, suggests everyone ignores OTHER people's contributions while only reading hers, and pretty much damns everyone but herself to hell approach is what MOST here are completely fed up with! I'm sticking with the 'oreo cookie in the face' poster here!
What do you think 'lurkers' who are not Christians think when they read the way 'Christians' (whether Jewish, Catholic, Protestant, etc)have to defend their own beliefs from a fellow "Christian"?! "To expose NA activity is great, however not to provide the proper alternative is an enormous error." It is also an enormous error not to do so with a spirit of humility and love. We are not all as perfect as Joyce wants us to be.

Glad to be Forgiven by Jesus, Not Joyce.
 
5/19/2009

Joyce wrote: "Now you have understood Paul. Paul did not believe that someone had to "convert" to Judaism because Judaism is not Torah."

I have always considered that Paul might have been merely encouraging gentiles to observe the Noahite laws but that the redactors distorted his message to form their new religion.
In particular:

Acts 15:19 Therefore it is my judgment that we should not trouble those from among the Gentiles who are turning to God:
20: But that we should write to them to abstain from the pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from what is strangled, and from blood.

Rom 13: 9 The commandments, “You shall not commit adultery,” “You shalt not murder,” “You shall not steal,” “You shall not covet;” and any other commandment there may be, are summed up in this sentence, [namely,], “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.”

Joyce wrote: "Sabbath is not only for Jews. The verse I quoted from Isaiah, which I will quote again is very clear:
Is. 56:6 “Also the foreigners who join themselves to the LORD,
To minister to Him, and to love the name of the LORD,
To be His servants, every one who keeps from profaning the sabbath
And holds fast My covenant;
Is. 56:7 Even those I will bring to My holy mountain
And make them joyful in My house of prayer.
Their burnt offerings and their sacrifices will be acceptable on My altar;
For My house will be called a house of prayer for all the peoples.”

>>Conversion to Judaism is never ONCE mentioned in Torah.

What is not very clear to you is that this is close to what you say is not mentioned; especially with the verse you omitted again:

8 So says the Lord God, Who gathers in the dispersed of Israel, I will yet gather others to him, together with his gathered ones.

Here are the Rashii words in brackets:

2 who will do this [who observes the Sabbath, etc.] 3 “The Lord will surely separate me from His people,” [Why should I become converted? Will not the Holy One, blessed be He, separate me from His people when He pays their reward.] Let not the eunuch say [Why should I better my ways and my deeds? I am like a withered tree, for lack of remembrance.] 4 and hold fast 7 for all peoples [Not only for Israel, but also for the proselytes.] 8 I will yet gather [of the heathens (of the nations) who will convert and join them.] together with his gathered ones [In addition to the gathered ones of Israel.]

Continued! (The blog claims I cannnot publish the original because it has over 4096 characters HTML but I have no HTML at all.)
 
Continued from prior message:

Here is the exegete Ibn Ezra on Isaiah Ch. 56: 3 “The foreigner” – These are the proselytes, the true proselytes (before they have converted).

Here is Redak on 3 - The prophet addresses particularly the proselytes and the eunuchs because neither one will have a share in the Holy Land, the proselyte because he is not of Jewish stock and the eunuch because he has no children. They should not think, because of this, they are separated from the Holy Land, for I will give them other benefits. In fact Ezek. 47:22 we see that the proselytes will inherit a share of the Holy Land. We must, therefore interpret our verse as referring to a proselyte who did not beget children after conversion.

Redak on 4 - “To My Covenant” – The Commandments bear more weight since they were given with a covenant. Alternatively it may refer to the covenant of the circumcision.

Jonathan on 6 - “who join with the Lord” – With the people of the Lord!
“everyone who observes the Sabbath: -- He commanded His nation, that He had chosen for Himself, to observe this Sabbath ---He therefore gave them the Sabbath before giving them the rest of the Torah. --- Anyone who joins the Jewish people must believe that Moses and his Torah are true, and only in this manner can he become part of the Jewish people.

Redak on 7 “I will bring them” - Just as one brings a guest into his home and welcomes him cordially, so will I command the priests to cordially accept all who come to convert.

Ibn Ezra on 8 --“I will gather (together with His gathered ones)” Like Rashii, Ibn Ezra interprets this as reference to the proselytes who will join Israel.

End Isaiah 56!

Joyce wrote: "In speaking of Pesach, the Lord says to Moses:
Ex. 12:49 “The same law shall apply to the native as to the stranger who sojourns among you.”

The Hebrew for “stranger” is “ger” which means proselyte. The word for a gentile stranger is “naykhar” and this word is used in Isaiah 56:6 to describe a gentile stranger (who will be converting).

By using an (invalid) out-of-context verse you are ignoring the entire paragraph that immediately precedes it and which decisively contradicts your interpretation.

Joyce wrote: "In the Millennial Kingdom, God says whoever is left in the nations will celebrate Succot."

Sukkot is not Shabbat! Sukkot is, in fact, a holiday that honors the 70 nations with 70 sacrificial bulls over its span.

Joyce wrote: "In the Newer Covenant, James expected the new Gentile believers from the nations to go to the synagogue every SABBATH.. that was without conversion. This is the subject of Jerusalem Council: And then they would go to the synagogue on Shabbat. "

Gentiles are welcome in my synagogue on Shabbat; and my rabbi’s prospective convert often attends. Perfect observance requires a lot more than that.

Len
 
5/19/2009

Heisenberg Uncertainty Priciple of Quantum Physics:

Dear Susanna,

This is very technical and I am no quantum expert. In fact, as an old electrical engineer, with a master's degree, I never took a course in this subject.

Physicists DO understand it. Here is the beginning of the Wikipedia explanation before it gets too technical:

In quantum physics, the Heisenberg uncertainty principle states that certain pairs of physical properties, like position and momentum, cannot both be known to arbitrary precision. That is, the more precisely one property is known, the less precisely the other can be known. It is impossible to measure simultaneously both position and velocity of a microscopic particle with any degree of accuracy or certainty. This is not a statement about the limitations of a researcher's ability to measure particular quantities of a system, but rather about the nature of the system itself and hence it expresses a property of the universe.

In quantum mechanics, a particle is described by a wave. The position is where the wave is concentrated and the momentum is the wavelength. The position is uncertain to the degree that the wave is spread out, and the momentum is uncertain to the degree that the wavelength is ill-defined.

The only kind of wave with a definite position is concentrated at one point, and such a wave has an indefinite wavelength. Conversely, the only kind of wave with a definite wavelength is an infinite regular periodic oscillation over all space, which has no definite position. So in quantum mechanics, there are no states that describe a particle with both a definite position and a definite momentum. The more precise the position, the less precise the momentum.

End Wiki!

While inexact, you may be able to comprehend this analogy: If I throw a ball you can determine its lkocation at any time by stopping it and measuring its location. But when you have done this you end your chance of measuring its speed.

If you want to measure its speed you can time its movement between two points but that stops you from determininng its location.

This is not exactly true for a baseball but it is true for quantum particles because of the wierdness exhibited.

It has absolutely nothing to do with New Age.

Len
 
5/19/2009

Einstein fought Quantum Theory.

Susanna wrote: "I guess I am in the Einstein camp. I don't think he ever changed his determinist (cause and effect) view, but I am willing to stand corrected if I am mistaken. I would have likewise refused to let go of my classical determinist (cause and effect) view of reality.

Dear Susanna,

Einstein fought the probalistic nature of Quantum physics and coined his famous "God does not play dice with the unhiverse" remark. But experiment after experiment by many physicists, several performed after his death, have decisively proven him wrong.

But this was not his only error. When he developed his general relativity theory he tried to force it to agree with the general impression that the universe was static. To do this he inserted a "cosmological onstant" in his equations. Otherwise they would show that the universe was either expanding or contracting.

Even at the time, he apologized for the introduction because it spoiled the elegant simplicity of the field equations that he had struggled so hard to find and he later dropped the term for irrelevant reasons.

Astrophysicists soon found that the equations mandated that the universe was dynamic and that the term was neccessary. Later Einstein called his reasoning his greatest blunder.

Len
 
Len,

You quote from Acts 15:19-20

You were saying, trying to show that christianity is a different religion. You did not read the reasoning behind what they instructed in these verses. Please read verse 21 as well.

19 Therefore I judge that we should not trouble those from among the Gentiles who are turning to God, 20 but that we write to them to abstain from things polluted by idols, from sexual immorality, from things strangled, and from blood. 21 For Moses has had throughout many generations those who preach him in every city, being read in the synagogues every Sabbath

You see, this was for those new to Yeshua and were asking "what now?"

After they turn to Yeshua, The Ruach will do the rest.
 
Len,

Romans 13:9 is not Noahidic, it is the Ten Commandments and then Paul is echoing what Jesus taught in

Matthew 22:38-40

38This is the first and greatest commandment. 39And the second is like it: 'Love your neighbor as yourself.' 40All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments."

And Jesus is quoting from Leviticus 19:18

As for me and my house, we will serve The Lord.
 
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