Wednesday, April 08, 2009

A WORD OF CAUTION ON THE HOLY ORDER OF MANS AND ON FR. SERAPHIM ROSE TEACHINGS

UPDATE: CARRIE TOMKO - IN MEMORIAM

It is with deep sadness that I announce that God has called one of our very most diligent and productive co-laborers home. Monday, April 6th, Carrie Tomko died peaceably with her family at her side. Her funeral is scheduled for April 14th in Ohio. I will announce more particulars here as I learn of the arrangement. There is a message from her family at Carrie's blogspot, STILL RUNNING OFF AT THE KEYBOARD.

I miss her so very much and look forward to future long discussions with her in the life to come!

Constance


I have been looking into what was a well known New Age cult, The Holy Order of Mans (HOOM), its predecessor SCIENCE OF MAN Church, its reportedly Christian conversion successor CHRIST THE SAVIOR BROTHERHOOD and now find myself in some personal confusion as I am delving the subject for a local friend here in the Detroit area. It is reported that there may be at least remnants, if not wholesale, gnosticism remaining in this cult. ORTHODOXY AND THE RELIGION OF THE FUTURE by Fr. Seraphim Rose is one of the finest books I have ever read and I have recommended it to many.

I have come across reports of a troubling doctrine, however, as well as evidence that the group has continued to stay in touch - both Christian and gnostic segments via internet communication lists of members together with Holy Order of Mans names and present names, addresses, and telephone numbers. That somebody would assemble such a directory is not in and of itself incriminating;
HOWEVER, the same directories are obviously advocating the pre-conversion deeply gnostic practices of the group.

Even among the claimed Christian converted segment of the order for which Fr. Seraphim Rose reportedly played a role in a mass conversion from New Age to Russian Orthodox Christianity, is a teaching of "
aerial toll houses." I am researching this and will write more on it in the near future, but it appears to me to be a teaching where after death one goes to a series of "aerial toll houses" where judging is not by God but by demons. If the demonic inspection is not passed where good deeds outweigh bad deeds, the soul goes straight to hell.

There is more, much more, but given my relatively uncritical endorsements of Fr. Seraphim Rose and his fruits, I wanted to make sure that ALL was tested for scriptural consistency. I certainly do not want anybody falling into this type of error on my personal account or because of anything I said or recommended. As always, "take the wheat, leave the chaff." I am not perfect. Fr. Seraphim Rose was not perfect and if he were here, I'm sure he would tell you that himself.

As usual, you may download pdf (portable document file) versions of my books and research reference materials for free by
clicking on this link or going to the "presentations for downloading" at the right of this blogspot.

CONSTANCE

Comments:
HEADS UP!

Farmer has a great post regarding the quake in Italy. Constance has a link to Farmer's blog on her front page.

Constance,

I made several posts in the last thread I would love to get your read on.
 
From Oldthinker

CFR Unveils Global Governance Agenda

The Council on Foreign Relations, often described as the "real state department", has launched an initiative to promote and implement a system of effective world governance.

The program, titled "The International Institutions and Global Governance Program," utilizes the resources of the "...David Rockefeller Studies Program to assess existing regional and global governance mechanisms..." The initial funding for the program came with a $6 million grant from the Robina Foundation, which claims that the grant is "...one of the largest operating grants ever received in Council history."

The International Institutions and Global Governance Program identifies several "global issues" that require a system of world governance. Environmental issues, terrorism, the global economy and energy are all mentioned. The project then states that a system of "universal membership" could be pursued, or alternatively a regional organization, such as the European Union model.

Henry Kissinger, a CFR member, anticipates that President Obama will, "...give new impetus to American foreign policy partly because the reception of him is so extraordinary around the world. I think his task will be to develop an overall strategy for America in this period when, really, a new world order can be created. It's a great opportunity, it isn't just a crisis."

http://tinyurl.com/c75y23
 
Obama urges Turkey to speed up EU reforms

ANKARA (Reuters) - U.S. President Barack Obama reiterated Monday his support for Turkey's bid to join the European Union despite opposition from member states, but urged the mainly Muslim country to speed up long-stalled reforms.

His words, in a speech before parliament in Ankara, come a day after he urged the 27-nation bloc to accept EU candidate Turkey, in remarks rejected by France and met coolly by Germany.

"The United States strongly supports Turkey's bid to become a member of the European Union... (but) Turkey has its own responsibilities," Obama told the audience, which included Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan.

http://tinyurl.com/dawcfn


It appears the conflict over Turkey, may not be such a conflict after all!
 
Kremlin aide: IMF should study global currency

MOSCOW (Reuters) - Russia will ask the International Monetary Fund (IMF) to carry out a study on the potential for a new international reserve currency, Kremlin aide Arkady Dvorkovich said on Tuesday.

China and Russia, the world's No.1 and No.3 reserve holders, have been pushing for a discussion on making greater use of the International Monetary Fund's Special Drawing Rights basket.

While the United States has not rejected the idea, the world's number one economy has made it clear it sees the dollar remaining the top reserve currency for a long time to come.

Dvorkovich said Russia was happy the initiative had at least stirred an international debate in the runup to last week's Group of 20 summit, adding the Russian delegation headed by Finance Minister Alexei Kudrin would push for a followup at the IMF meeting in Washington later this month.

Asked whether Russia would pursue the idea of a new global currency, he said: "Our idea is to ask the IMF to prepare a report on this issue at some point and study the risks and possibilities related to it." Dvorkovich is also President's Dmitry Medvedev's G20 and G8 sherpa.

http://tinyurl.com/cwfcfj
 
Article on 'Toll Houses' here
 
Herescope has a very thought provoking article regarding what many are being spoon fed in their churches! I would highly recommend the read as it goes to the heart of this apostasy.

http://www.herescope.blogspot.com/
 
Dear Constance,
Fr. Seraphim Rose is Orthodox. I think that the English term "aerial toll houses" is not a very apt translation of the Greek
word τελωνια (telonia). It was not meant that this word should represent brick-and-mortar "toll houses", but rather a remote analogy to the idea that the daemons try always to ensnare people in their nets, during the earthly life (via the traps of various temptations and false teachings), as well as at the end of the earthly life, when they they have their last chance to capture the soul, ambushing it as toll collectors/publicans/robbers
(the word for toll collector and publican is the same in Slavonic)
standing who wish to extort money from the person who passes through a gorge. Please note that the spiritual realities cannot be compared directly to the phenomena in our physical world, so any analogy we use -- like the words "traps", "nets", or "toll houses"(the latter makes more sense in Greek), should not be taken literally.
It seems that the HOOM as well as its "derivatives" like
"The Order of Christ Sophia"/"Centers of Light" are indeed some sort of New Age/gnostic/ecumenical/interfaith
movements which have nothing in common with Orthodox Christianity. Fr. Seraphim Rose was an exceptional missionary who brought the light of Orthodoxy to many searching people, however the fact that some presently deviate into gnosticism
does not mean that Fr. Seraphim was teaching them gnosticism, it means that they did not adhere to the Christian Faith which was preached to them and have reverted to their old ways.
I would not recommend using Rick Ross as a reliable source.
I don't know Fr. Ephraim (mentioned in one of the links you provide) personally, but given the unhealthy cult-like admiration I have seen in some people I do not think Fr. Ephraim should be considered authoritative. It seems to me the such unhealthy admiration of a person during his earthly life _may_ shadow Christ. This was not the case with Fr. Seraphim, who with his unfeigned humility and unpretentiousness (although he was very intelligent and highly educated)
has brought people to Christ.
For reference, you may read
Excerpts from Fr. Seraphim's letters:
http://www.orthodoxinfo.com/praxis/frseraphimspeaks.aspx
"Father Seraphim Rose: His Life and Works"
http://www.amazon.com/Father-Seraphim-Rose-Life-Works/dp/1887904077
"The Soul After Death: Contemporary "After-Death" Experiences in the Light of the Orthodox Teaching on the Afterlife"
http://www.amazon.com/Soul-After-Death-Contemporary-After-Death/dp/093863514X/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1239225988&sr=1-4

njcr807
 
Hi JD,

I've spent a great deal of time this afternoon reviewing the disturbing brief from the Justice Department. Did I hear anybody say, "TweedleDee, Tweedledum"?

I am still studying your others, but I so very appreciate your vital research!

Consstance
 
I just wanted to thank whoever wrote the summary of the movie "Knowing". I have not seen it, but it came up in my junior high girls study tonight. They were confused and disturbed and wanting to know if it is true. I was glad to have read the whole post. God is certainly timely.

indy
 
to njcr807:

Thanks for your clarifying remarks. I am certain Fr. Rose and I might have had theological differences over the "toll house" concept; however, I agree with you that he was evangelizing New Agers, including the HOOMS bunch and because some of those claiming inspiration went amiss does not mean his work directed them that way.

Lee Penn, Carrie Tomko, and I have all agreed on our deep admiration for Fr. Seraphim Rose's work.

Constance
 
Hadron Collider on Track...

You've got to read this headline!!!

http://tinyurl.com/d6d6nc
 
Please remember to refresh your browser. I have added material on co-laborer Carrie Tomko's recent death. I am going to archive her material as it was priceless!!

Constance
 
indy that was Bella,
not seen her back here since, again would love it if she would be willing to write a commentary for my blog, but she has to show up and express a willingness to do that. Same goes for anyone else that ever may have a movie commentary to write in comparision with Christian view.

Sad news on Carrie in terms of us, good news for her, that she is in God's presence. :)
 
Constance is it possible that like Watchman Nee, Fr. Seraphim was twisted by those he taught, and end up not really reflecting what taught? Of course I say that with no exposure to FR Seraphim
 
I am also saddened to hear of Carrie
Tomko's passing. I became a regular reader of her blog over the past two years and I will miss her. -Rudi
 
Constance:

As a devout Catholic, I can't even wrap my brain around how anyone could fall for spiritual GARBAGE like "aerial toll houses."

What I do know and believe is that the further a person (Catholic or otherwise) moves AWAY from God and dabbles in New Age teachings . . . the more that person's judgement becomes CLOUDED and confused.

In other words, the closer we stay to God and His TRUE teachings, the more He will reveal and "lift the veil from our eyes" to the TRUTH - which will keep us on the right path of obeying His commandments in order to spend eternity in Heaven with Him.
 
Dear Constance,
Thank you for sharing the news of Carrie recent passing.
Although I've only been following this your blog for a year now, I truly appreciated Carrie's insight and diligence.
Her passion for her faith in Christ was remarkable, and it has been a privilege to share in even a small portion of her precious life.

In His Love,
-SV
 
Global Research
April 8, 2009

On January 22, 2009, the National Emergency Centers Establishment Act (NECEA) was submitted to Congress for consideration. It was introduced by Congressman Alcee L. Hastings of Florida, a man who, in 1989, became only the sixth federal judge in the history of America to be removed from office by the Senate for corruption and perjury.

Even though NECEA has received very little mainstream media coverage, action alerts are making their way across message boards and Internet sites due to Global Research’s Michel Chossudovsky, who has brought to light both the Act itself as well as the U.S. government’s actions leading up to the presentation of NECEA.

The question we must ask ourselves is simple: if NECEA is meant to address natural disasters, then why is the scope of the Act so vague, large and open-ended? The flip side of which is: if NECEA is only meant to address natural disasters, they why isn’t NECEA crystal clear on this point?

Instead, we find that the purpose of these military-based emergency centers may be used to “meet other appropriate needs, as determined by the Secretary of Homeland Security.”

It is when we attempt to understand the pocket of obscurity created by NECEA’s vagueness, and while factoring in the readying of the U.S. military’s response to the anticipated civil unrest (due to the economic war being waged on all but the ‘haves’), that the potentially insidious nature of the centers becomes evident.

21st century internment camps?

On the surface, NECEA proposes to direct the Secretary of Homeland Security in the establishment of six “national emergency centers on military installations," one in each of the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) regions.

The purpose of these centers is to use existing military infrastructure for several emergency situations or natural disasters that might render individuals and families “dislocated.”

NECEA further proposes that over the course of the next two years, $360,000,000 is to be appropriated for this initiative. (To whom do you think such construction contracts will be awarded?)

As already mentioned, primary concern must be given to the following catch-all phrase: that the purpose of these military-based emergency centers may “meet other appropriate needs, as determined by the Secretary of Homeland Security.” In other words, that the purpose is to be determined by the same U.S. government body who, since launching the trailer for the War on Terrorism in 2001, has systematically worked to institutionalize prejudice against civil rights groups and activists, anti-war movements, unions, ‘brown’ people (you are homogeneous, don’t challenge this) and Muslims, while stripping the American citizen of their right to privacy and dissent.

Second, nowhere does NECEA provide clear indication as to which system of justice those inside of the emergency centers would be held. Since they are to be established within the parameters of military bases, the de facto assumption is that those within would be subject to military law. More dangerous perhaps is an all-together different system, removed even from the military one, learned courtesy of Guantanamo and all other secret and illegal US ‘security’ facilities across the globe.

NECEA does, however, mention that within six months, the “Secretary of Defense shall transfer to the Secretary of Homeland Security administrative [sic] jurisdiction.” It would then follow that the definition of ‘administrative’ jurisdiction here may have nothing to do with legal jurisdiction, and so NECEA makes it possible that those within the emergency center would, for the duration of their (interred) stay, not be subject to the regular legal system. Once more, Americans may welcome the suspension of habeas corpus.

At a more general level, these centers are “capable of being scaled up or down” and would each be subject to a “24/7 operations watch center [which] shall be in full ready mode.” For what, exactly, the watch center will be ready, is left to our imagination and to be utilized at the discretion of those in power. Nowhere is it mentioned for whom these centers are to be established, or more specifically, who would be kept within these locations.

NECEA begs the following questions: Are these ‘emergency centers’ only for U.S. Citizens? How does one become eligible? Is it on a first-come, first-served basis? Does one have to be arrested? If the center is filled to capacity and there is indeed a natural disaster, how will individuals be kept out? If one is inside of the emergency center, can they simply walk out and leave, or will their freedom of movement be at the discretion of the military? Etc., ad infinitum.

Finally, and if not more insidious, is the reality that nowhere in NECEA is mentioned either the duration of these emergency centers or the efforts that must be undertaken to restore to order and to normal the lives and environment post ‘emergency.’

‘None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free’

Within the reality presented above and in order to understand the full weight of this silent war on Americans, it is necessary to view it within a greater context. First, there is the unfortunate reality that Obama has time and again stated that his administration will neither investigate, hold to account, nor prosecute the officials responsible for the United States’ criminal policies of torture, illegal detention and “extraordinary rendition” (whereby alleged terrorists were kidnapped and sent beyond American borders to foreign countries or secret CIA prisons, where they were tortured).

More importantly, the Bush Administration’s disregard for and mockery of international, as well as constitutional, law have not been undone by this new Administration, and there are no clear indications that they will be undone by Obama’s campaign of ‘change.’ In fact, there is strong evidence to the contrary.

In laymen’s terms, Obama’s letting criminals walk, and in this context, this can only mean the following: that he does not believe they are guilty of a crime, thereby making it clear that Obama himself does not view torture, illegal detention or extraordinary rendition as criminal actions.

Second, that many experts are foreshadowing that the on-going financial disaster being leveled against all-but-the-wealthy is going to lead to great civil unrest within the United States. Rightly, there exists a palpable fear that the ‘have-nots’ will take seriously their right to bear arms and they will rise against — not only the government — but all institutions who continue (at the expense of the ‘have-nots’) to lie and behave in fraudulent manner. Finally, that the reality that in the fall of 2008, military bodies previously active only on foreign soil became operational within America’s borders, with much of their mandate focused on how to address ‘civil unrest.’

To recap, the U.S. has a President who — until he fully proves otherwise — seems relatively chill about torture, indefinite detention, extraordinary rendition and the suspension of habeas corpus.

Also, there is a strong foreshadowing of great civil unrest within the US, as well as a now present military contingent trained to deal with civil unrest. Add to this recipe the creation of military-based emergency centers used to “meet other appropriate needs, as determined by the Secretary of Homeland Security” and one is left with the choice to believe either they are witnessing random unrelated events or layered preparation to further dilute — and possibly completely suspend — civil rights.

Naturally, the third option is to view these events as a combination of coincidence and design; no matter from which perspective you choose to approach it, the reality remains that NECEA, as it stands today, is a dangerous Act which threatens what remains of American civil liberties.
 
Constance, I remember you mentioned on a radio program a few weeks ago that Newt Gingrich got your attention back in the 80's as a politician very steeped in the New Age Movement. I just read that he converted to Catholicism (I think) at the end of March, 2009. I found that interesting, just forwarding fyi.
 
Re: Anonymous 11:38am.

Your post caught my attention and I googled that congressman that was removed as a judge. It appears he was found not guilty of wrongdoing by a jury and
was removed after a vote by a senate committee not a full senate vote which was protested.

Maha Zimmo who wrote the article you quoted from appears not to have known the full story on the congressman.

FOTM-Walt
 
James Carroll, author of Practicing Catholic and promoter of liberal Christianity ("acknowledging that there is more than one way to God"), was interviewed by Jan Mickelson on 1040 WHO today. It was very interesting. He says at the end of the interview that the greatest commandment is to love our neighbor as ourselves, which caused me to start yelling at the radio (lol).

You can listen to it here
http://cdn1.libsyn.com/mickelson/mickelson-2009-04-09.mp3?nvb=20090409183858&nva=20090410184858&t=0719ff2a9fe11ac00015c

or

http://tinyurl.com/d2ajtg

~HM
 
Constance,

Thanks for the vote of confidence. I simply wanted to make sure you saw the entirety of what I had, as I know it can be difficult to pour over many numerous posts. The once relatively hidden have become extremely enbolden these days
 
While only God can judge hearts and one can only hope that Newt Gingrich approached from a mode of repentance and sought forgiveness, I, on this earthly plane, remain sceptical of his and Tony Blair's respective conversions. I guess time and events and the Lord's Will will tell.

Constance
 
The Financial New World Order: Towards a Global Currency and World Government

Global Research
April 9, 2009

Following the 2009 G20 summit, plans were announced for implementing the creation of a new global currency to replace the US dollar’s role as the world reserve currency. Point 19 of the communiqué released by the G20 at the end of the Summit stated, “We have agreed to support a general SDR allocation which will inject $250bn (£170bn) into the world economy and increase global liquidity.” SDRs, or Special Drawing Rights, are “a synthetic paper currency issued by the International Monetary Fund.” As the Telegraph reported, “the G20 leaders have activated the IMF’s power to create money and begin global "quantitative easing". In doing so, they are putting a de facto world currency into play. It is outside the control of any sovereign body. Conspiracy theorists will love it.”

The article continued in stating that, “There is now a world currency in waiting. In time, SDRs are likely to evolve into a parking place for the foreign holdings of central banks, led by the People’s Bank of China.” Further, “The creation of a Financial Stability Board looks like the first step towards a global financial regulator,” or, in other words, a global central bank.

It is important to take a closer look at these “solutions” being proposed and implemented in the midst of the current global financial crisis. These are not new suggestions, as they have been in the plans of the global elite for a long time. However, in the midst of the current crisis, the elite have fast-tracked their agenda of forging a New World Order in finance. It is important to address the background to these proposed and imposed “solutions” and what effects they will have on the International Monetary System (IMS) and the global political economy as a whole.

http://www.infowars.com/the-financial-new-world-order-towards-a-global-currency-and-world-government/
 
Constance, I join your skepticism!
 
Check out the development of a pseudo Melchizedek at www.lookupfellowship.com
 
Hurricane-force winds fan wildfires in Southwest:

"(CNN) -- Numerous wildfires were roaring Thursday through parts of Oklahoma and Texas, searing whole neighborhoods, including some in Oklahoma City, as hurricane-force winds continued to kick the flames even higher."
"Feeding the flames were strong winds that were gusting as high as 76 mph, the strength of a Category 1 hurricane, and grounding many emergency aircraft that can't fly safely in those conditions."

Link Here-
http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/weather/04/09/southwest.wildfires/

Or Here-
http://tiny.cc/oInyQ

By His Grace,
-SV
 
Well, bloggers.....take heed.

Uncle Benny Creme's "antichrist" ad appeared on the History Channel last night during the "Warrior's" program about Musashi, the undefeated samurai warrior and author of the classic battle strategy book, "The Five Rings".

I found it interesting that the "star" in the antichrist ad appeared to be directly over the north pole. I've heard reports about very strange aurora activity as viewed from Alaska this winter. The aurora's are always strange, but this winter they would appear and often get "sucked up into a small hole", like a vacuum cleaner was turned on and off. Maybe it's just HAARP doing it's thing.

Keep in mind the Sun remains at an extreme (historic) solar minimum, which may last another year. No one knows how long this quiet time will last for sure, (like the calm before a storm perhaps?) But such an extreme minimum has effectively cleared the airwaves of static interference, making this the perfect time for SSSS.

Stay diligent, and keep looking up folks.
 
HO HO! What a game Old Man likes to play! He says he's going to leave, but comes back every time. Everyone is so sad to see him go, only to see him come back two months later. Who else is he going to spout his crazy ideas to. Hey, Glen Beck, Michelle Bachman, we've got another crazy follower of your constant nonsense!
 
MEDITATION

I've heard it mentioned here before that 'meditation is dangerous'. I do agree with this statement and it's not something I would want to get sucked into or support others in. I notice too that it's a practise that is supported by many various NA groups across the world and ALMOST appears to be a common denomintor (? along with re-incarnation ?)???

Can anyone recommend any sites, books, radio recordings, articles or anything that might give me insight into 'the dangers and implications of meditation' - please.

Meditation has crept into so many places now and seems to be such a focus of NA activity that I'd like to understand a little more clearly why this might be.

Thanks for any links anyone can provide. Hope I've expressed this clearly.

~K~
 
Anonymous 11:54,

What a sniper/ coward you are.
You're like a "viper that bites at the heels of
the horse and causes the rider to fall."
But it won't work.
I assume that you're angry, again, because the subject of detention centers is up again and you've explained
to us all so many times, in your voice of authdority,
that it's all nonsense.
 
Meditation: After having a complete blockage and heart attack last winter I spent three months doing cardiac rehab at a well-known facility in my area. It is run by M.D.s and is very up to date and scientific. Yet, patients are urged to hook up with the resident Psychologist and also to get involved with Meditation Classes and other somewhat New Age activities. This stuff is everywhere.
 
Hi ~K~,
Here is some information covering a variety of avenues through which new mystical spirituality is blended in with the Truth of the Scriptures. Examples of how mysticism and occult (esoteric) practices are wrapped in Christian terminology thereby giving the illusion of being beneficial, masking the danger for believers.
Under the heading, 'Mystical Practices' From Lighthouse Trails:

http://www.lighthousetrailsresearch.com/

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Chapter 5 "Meditation and Contemplative Prayer: Test the Spirits" from Warren Smith's very insightful book 'Reinventing Jesus Christ':
may also be helpful to you.

http://tinyurl.com/dllsmg

http://www.crossroad.to/articles2/006/warren-smith/5-reinventing.htm
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Personally, I highly recommend reading Warren Smith's entire on line book found here:

http://tinyurl.com/dllsmg

http://www.reinventingjesuschrist.com/

*******************************
I will also re-posted the link to an extremely helpful chart
'New Age Terms in the Church' compiled by researcher Sarah Leslie of Discernment Ministries/ "Herescope". Thanks Sarah!

http://tinyurl.com/yszmp7

http://www.crossroad.to/glossary/church/na_terms.htm

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Then, perhaps, having your mind and spirit protected with Truth you might find it eye-opening to read
"What is the real purpose of meditation?" and other related questions answered from Benjamin Crèmes perspective.

http://tinyurl.com/dylxk2

http://www.transmissionmeditation.org/transmission-FAQ.html
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"Have nothing to do with the fruitless deeds of darkness, but rather expose them…" Ephesians 5

"Therefore put on the whole armor of God, that you may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand."
Ephesians 6


-Rudi
 
Tonight I will be baptized and God heard my prayer... my son and husband are going to come... they have reservations...they think I've gone off the deep end... but I ask your prayers at 7pm that their eyes be opened, that their ears hear, and that he soften their hearts to him...
Sara
 
Sara, I am so happy for you and proud of you as you follow our Lord's command and declare to the world your faith in Jesus Christ.

I so look forward to the day when we can all meet face to face and marvel at the grace and calling of our precious Savior.

Dear friends our future is glorious! Let us press on as faithful soldiers of the cross, those who have gone before cheer us on.
 
Safe Mediation

Psalm 119:97 Oh how I love Your law.
It is my mdiation all the day.

Psalm 1:2 But his delight is in the law of the Lord,
And in His law he mediates day and night.

FOTM-Walt
 
Dear Sara,
Congratulations on your blessed baptism!
We celebrate along with you as you make this precious statement of faith in the Lord Jesus Christ before your congregation and before your family members.
I'm praying for your family tonight as well.
May the Lord be praised!

By His Grace,
-SV
 
Thank you all so much for your prayers... it means the world to me... It was an awesome night...when they asked me if I declared Jeasus and my savior I yelled really loud "Heck ya~!" God is so Good and rains supreme~! Blessed be his name~!!
Sara
 
Constance,
I posted the foundations of AoC on Bjorn's, but paging through I found this:

http://www.uef-eba.org/about/board/rgeoris.php

..and thought it was interesting for you because of the Madriaga connection. It comes from Evens Foundation in Belgium which I've sent before but never connected it with AoC.

http://www.unaoc.org/component/option,com_sobi2/Itemid,230/limit,10/limitstart,10/lang,english/


Besides the Rothschilds, Rockefellers, etc. There are some interesting organizations on the list worth going through.


Blessed Shabbat as you rest in Yeshua..

The Feast of Firsts Fruits is connected with the resurrection... In seven weeks we'll be celebrating Shavuot or Pentecost ( the giving of Torah and the giving of the Holy Spirit). This year Passover happens to fall close to the Christian celebration, but is not always like this because of the change in calendar.

Another very interesting thing.

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-sun-blessing8-2009apr08,0,6374356.story

That was earlier in the week, but wanted to call it to everyone's attention.


Joyce
 
peacebringer7

Sorry I have not been here to answer you regarding the movie "Knowing".

Here is something I wrote on it. I hope this is what you were wanting. Use it as you feel best. It is long I apologies for this ahead of time :)

Spoilers*****

The Movie "Knowing"

The movie is quite well done and I can see why it is popular. It is an edge-of-your-seat kind of film. Dealing with some underlining fears we have and questions we ask.

Some film critics have called “Knowing” a merger of the occult and sci-fi.

I have seen Knowing. It was suggested to me by some of my fellow anti-occult researchers. They advised me to see it based on its twisting religion into the occult.

This movie is a good preparation to understand occult concepts.

Let me start with this. This entire story I have already read about in various different occult books in different forms. I could tell from the first few minutes what was going to happen in the entire movie, because I have heard this same story many times within the new age/occult. The basis of this idea of this story comes from a popular concept that humans were brought here by aliens from another dying planet and that Adam and Eve were placed here by them. The aliens keep watch over us to help us evolve through our reincarnations. Other occult teachings say we just evolved here, but with the help of these same entities.


Angels/Aliens/Space Brothers/Spirit Guides

I want to clarify what whispering entities were. They represented aliens (better describe in the occult as “space brothers” or spirit guides). They are angels that are the watchers of this planet and its evolution. The space brothers/angels/aliens help the earth evolve. They act as spirit guides to those in the occult. We know them as demons. They call them angels and admit they are fallen angels and include Lucifer as the leader. The difference is the occult teaches they are good and misunderstood by man. They say major religions have wrongly twisted the Morning star, the Illuminated One or Lucifer into a source of evil. They only want what is best for us to live in a one-world-order of peace. They teach we as a planet are going to destroy ourselves but they will come forth and guide us to how to become a united loving world. It is also taught they can remove a select few to a new planet if necessary. The space brothers can appear just as the movie showed, very Aryan. This is the common description of how they take form. When they shed their false skins you can see they are just spirits that even have wings. This is a symbol of the fallen angels that guide this planet. They glowed with light, as Lucifer can appear as an angel of light so can his other followers.

Picture of Ezekiel:

The picture or story of Ezekiel is very common among those occultists that hold this view like Shirley McClain as proof of extraterrestrial life. But as you did deeper this extra terrestrial life in the deep occult teachings they explain them as truly the angels that guide this planet and call them by name Lucifer and the fallen angels. They say their fall was a sacrifice for man, because they are higher evolved beings then humans. They travel by space ships. Maitreya the supposed “Christ” that will come with the “space brothers” is said to arrive in a space ship. This has been my great concern that we will see the false “aliens” at some point to help unite the world for our good. They are our “saviors”. Bringing us truth and knowledge.


Holy Ghost Whispers:

The Holy Ghost whispers but not in this evil way this movie portrays. Remember the demons whisper too. Lucinda took her own life because of these entities. The Holy Ghost does not torture us in this way by forcing His whispers on us. The whisperings were from evil sprits. The proof is that they were terrifying everyone and only creating fear and darkness until the end when the characters submitted to them their free will. Then is when they appeared good…

Auto writing:

The scenes in the movie where two children were hearing whispers that changed to auto writing. Auto writing is a trance like state or semi trance state in which the writer has no idea what they are writing. This state is often reached by meditation but sometimes is spontaneous or has to be developed over time, depending on the individual. There hands are forced to write down what they are being told to write. In the movie the children were so over-taken by these entities that they were forced to write these numbers to the point of even carving them with their fingers till they bled. This is again a very good example of possession of demons and not the Holy Ghost. This is a common occurrence in the occult. A high amount of their books are written via auto writings where the author has no idea what they are writing down. One examples of today, Neal Donald Walsh’s “Conversations With God” series. Demons communicate via auto writing as commonly as they do with inner voices as they did in writing the book “The Course in Miracles by Helen Schucman. It was written via the inner voice dictation.( this is the course Oprah is pushing) The original writings of the occult when it was brought out of the public all the books were written through channeling of these “space brothers” that dictated what was to be written. This includes the authors Helen Blavatsky and Alice Bailey.

Spiritual Stones:

Polished basalt stones appear to have been used in the film to amplify the voice of the “whisper people”. They also helped the characters recognize the location where the aliens would land and know that the “whisper people” had been in a location, as they would drop them off. Stones and crystals are used heavily by occultists and are believed to have various spiritual powers and associations. Basalt is associated with the underworld being black and volcanic in origin, making it an obvious symbol of Satan. The film twists this symbolism into something good and symbolic of salvation.

Indigo/Crystal children:

It is taught now in the occult about the amount of children being born with psychic gifts. These children have gifts of prophecy, auto writing, channeling spirits, hearing voices, seeing visions etc. They are considered to be the ones that will follow the doctrines of the occult and help create a world of peace following the “space brothers” and what they teach. There are books that show you how to help them. What is interesting is that fact that they admit these children are strong willed and will not listen to authority. They say this is a good thing. They run to a beat of a different drummer and will tear down the old religions and build the new one-world spirituality.


Destruction by fire:

The occult teaches that the world was destroyed by a flood by the “Space brothers” now it will potentially be destroyed by fire. But we have a means of escape if we listen to them. They are teaching us now through writers that are teaching these things to the mass public even on Oprah. They teach we can avoid Armageddon if we listen to the space brothers and follow their advice.

The Locket:

The locket is given to the Father of the boy from his dead wife. It was inscribed with a statement about being together forever. This could be taken that they will see each other in Heaven. I wonder though if the meaning was occult in nature. The occult does teach that families do stay together within the occult for they keep reincarnating with loved ones. You are drawn to each others as soul mates and family relations continue just in different forms. Some times the parent becomes the child or grand child the spirits change from male to female in different incarnations etc. These souls keep working things out together life after life in groups. I think that may have been what was implied over seeing their family in Heaven.


Gospel Doctrines in the Movie:

In the movie there is Zero teachings of God except by the Pastor’s family and it is weak in doctrines so it leaves a gapping hole of the intent of what they really believed. Many Christian Pastors are teaching occult concepts now. So the wording was ambiguous New age/occult are replacing atheist views, so it is hard to tell what the lead character’s Father really believed anyway. Nor does it matter, for the intent of the movie was not to bring you closer to God as we know Him but to make you more acquainted with the doctrines of the occult, which it did very well.

Garden of Eden end:

The two children were dropped of on one of the many worlds that was talked about in the beginning of the movie that can hold life. The tree in the end was the symbol of the tree in the Garden of Eden. If you noticed there were many space ships dropping off children. They would not take adults. Why? Children are the occult’s future. They are waiting for the old ways and views to die off and only have the new teachings of the “ways” of the space brothers, their doctrines and teachings. The only ones they saved were the ones that hear the “call” this again is an occult use. The call is the awakening to hearing and understanding the entities whispers and if you notice they could only go “if” it was their free agency. It is taught in the occult you must submit your free agency to these entities for them to have control. Lucifer is bound by that law. They did not take a whole righteous civilization only children that heard the call and that were teachable by them.


This movie is a great indoctrination into many of the teachings that are becoming popular today. The merging of angels, demons into aliens seems to be a big goal at this time. They want us to look at demons as wise more advanced entities from other planets. It may appear as sci-fi and just a fun movie and have religions symbolisms, but that is the great deception. This is how they are slowing boiling us as frogs, introducing us to these concepts via an fictional film, yet much of the data is not fiction but doctrines preached and already written down by demons within occult writings. They are taking all we know as good and calling it evil and all we know as evil and calling it good, then twisting and redefining everything to fit their own meaning. They are merging Christian teachings with the occult. That is why so many recognize truths in this film. They are just twisted into a new meaning preparing us for what is to come and what is going on now.


Bella
 
RETURN OF THE ANCESTORS-
International Event Beginning Earth Day Weekend (April 18-28)In Northern AZ.
Quoted from Earth Works For Humanity website:
"Humanity has waited for the day of peace and harmony to reign in this world for hundreds of years. We are at a pivotal point where action needs to be taken. We must move in a new direction towards each individual seeking the healing of their ancestral memories to enable humanity to move forward. A proclamation will be made for the ancestral memories to be healed globally for all time and space."

"We are now living in a time of our truth and an intertwined field of destiny mending the circle of life. Let us look at the truth: the tree of life, the seed of life, the flower of life. The world has awaited a renewed life's plan. We look towards our grand elders and wisdom keepers' Cosmovision for specific instructions and guidance towards the reconnection to the natural laws. The seen and unseen from the past, present and future unfold. Destiny brings us all to this point in time. The men and women of wisdom have returned. History and Herstory is unfolding in front of our very own eyes."
Link Here-
http://www.earthworksforhumanity.org/index.shtml

These types of events are planned all over the globe simultaneously over the week of April 18th-28th.

By His Grace,
-SV
 
OBAMA'S NEW WORLD ORDER

URL to article: http://www.infowars.com/obamas-new-world-order/
 
Bella, that was perfect in terms of what looking for. If you want any further credit other then Bella who posts at CC blog then let me know and drop me an email or may a comment.
the commentary is found here: http://peacebringer7.wordpress.com/2009/04/11/guest-movie-commentary-knowing/
 
Hi Rudi,

Many thanks for the links - lots to look into there.

Have a great Easter Sunday - He is risen indeed - Hallelujah.

~K~
 
It looks as though Dr. Solana is planning a trip to the United States next week..


http://tinyurl.com/c4hdsr


nick
 
Happy Resurrection Sunday everyone !
He is RISEN !
Hallelujah !!!

Carrie Tomko is at rest from all this vexation
in the world, but her website is still up and
the information is as fresh and relevent as
ever.
I just read the January 31st blog and comments
regarding Freemasonry, etc, and as Susanna said
at that time, it is a GOLDMINE of information.
The link to her website is on Constance's
front page.
 
Some interesting headlines:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/12/opinion/12sun2.html?hpw

http://tiny.cc/3tdz8

http://tiny.cc/3c59v

http://tiny.cc/82f6g

http://tiny.cc/sxRqg

http://tiny.cc/zI95Q


http://tiny.cc/3plCg


The press has kept Obama front and center, but he seems to be keeping us all guessing about what he really believes, what he's going to do next, what kind of dog he's going to buy his girls..? Do we really care what kind of dog is at the White House?

http://tiny.cc/uzbMW

Meanwhile it looks like a Sunday school teacher killed a little girl...The woman's name, oddly enough is Huckaby, oddly enough, but no relation to Mike, the Republican candidate...

Speaking of church, the Obama's haven't chosen their church for Easter Sunday. They've been busy at the AoC meeting in Turkey hanging out with the Muslims at the Blue Mosque and hosting a Passover Seder at the White House.

Their every step is being watched, from the dog, to their church affiliation, to Michelle's clothing...

but...Obama has just ended the CFR's Clash of Civilizations...Now perhaps we can disband the Alliance of Civilizations that was set up to deal with this problem of the "war on terror" and the ensuing clash that came about.

Hegel could not have orchestrated this had he been here in person to script it himself.

This is just the beginning of a Presidency that is going to be filled with surprises. Personally, I don't care what designer dress Michelle models for us, or what breed of dog the kids have, or even which DC church the Obama's go to( although it's mildly interesting to know what he'll pick after skipping church for apx. 11 Sundays) , but I am very interested to see what his Mideast Policy is going to look like and how he is going to pull off what every President has been trying to do for several decades now, which is help bring about Middle East Peace..

The expectations are very high. Anything short of a miracle is going to leave a public, especially a Muslim public who is hanging on every word, very disappointed.

http://tiny.cc/DkVOM

Is Obama going to side with the Saudis and Jordanians? How is he going to deal with the growing nuclear threat of Iran?

Hizb'allah was busy buying up properties in Egypt..
and UNIFIL forces that were sent to prevent further aggression between Hizb'allah and Israel are falling apart. You can read all about it in Jerusalem Post.

The news items may appear to be unrelated, but it's all part of the big picture that is influencing the public consciousness about things going on in the world..
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Passover, Unleavened Bread and first fruits is all called Passover, even though Passover refers also to the actual sacrifice on 14 Nissan. Yeshua is the first fruit of the resurrection. The first fruits are waved after the Shabbat of Passover.

Lev. 23:10 “Speak to the sons of Israel and say to them, ‘When you enter the land which I am going to give to you and areap its harvest, then you shall bring in the sheaf of the first fruits of your harvest to the priest.


There are differences of opinion as to when Yeshua rose as the first fruit of the resurrection, but it is from the wave offering that the counting to the Feast of Shavuot ( Pentecost) takes place. I'll spare you those discussions here, but safe to say, He rose from the dead and because He lives, we too, who have trusted in His atoning work for our sins, will be resurrected also one day.

With the array of troubling news headlines and the direction of our nation, and the world, it is comforting to know that our hope is in a risen Messiah, one who came to bring us life and bring it to us abundantly.


The day after the Sabbath ( Unleavened Bread is a Sabbath too, in addition to the weekly Sabbath) , we are instructed to begin a count, which will lead us to another harvest feast, Shavuot ( Pentecost). During this feast traditionally Jews study the book of Ruth, and learn about the kinsman redeemer Boaz, whose descendant was King David. Ruth, a Moabite ends up marrying Boaz and her mother-in-law's inheritance is redeemed because of the valiant act of love of Boaz to marry a Moabite ( enemies of Israel). If you remember the story, Ruth goes and lays next to Boaz after the harvest. He covers her with the corner of his garment, a reference to the tzizit:

Num. 15:39-40 “It shall be a tassel for you to look at and remember all the commandments of the LORD, so as to do them and not follow after your own heart and your own eyes, after which you played the harlot, so that you may remember to do all My commandments and abe holy to your God.

In the same passage we learned that God had the same expectations of the alien as He did of Israel:

Num. 15:29 ‘You shall have one law for him who does anything unintentionally, for him who is native among the sons of Israel and for the alien who sojourns among them.


( the God of Israel always had a plan for the gentile nations)..Ruth said, that Naomi's people would be her people and their God, her God..

This provision of a kinsman redeemer points us to Yeshua, who is also related to David and the ultimate kinsman redeemer, who put His entire inheritance on the line to purchase us with the price of His blood. Redemption is tied into the Passover story, and we see the themes of God's great harvest too, as we count our way to Shavot ( feast of weeks, Pentecost).

Boaz was from the House of Bread, Bethlehem and so was Yeshua.

On Shavuot, Israel received the Torah, the bread of life. Prior to that the counting of the omer, which is connected to the collection of the mannah in the Wilderness teaches us about our daily bread..

Ex. 16:18 When they measured it with an omer, ahe who had gathered much had no excess, and he who had gathered little had no lack; every man gathered as much as he should eat.

Naomi left the House of Bread because there was a famine in the Land during the days of "the judges" when everyone did what was right in his own eyes and there was no king in Israel. It was a turbulent epoch, very much like our own in some ways. There was some vague recollections of the Torah,and how God had delivered His people from the Egyptians, but there was really a famine in the Land, which is why Naomi's family ventured into enemy territory. A few short generations earlier, Israel was promised victory over their enemies and told to "possess the land", but there was no bread in the "house of bread".

In the book of Acts, Yeshua's followers were told to wait and pray, for the giving of the Holy Spirit. All of the Jews from the diaspora, as well as god-fearers from the nations were gathered in Jerusalem when God poured out His Spirit and 3000 came to believe in Yeshua, corresponding with 3000 who were killed for worshipping the golden calf when Moses was being given Torah at Sinai, rupturing the covenant that God was to give to Israel.

God knew that the renewed covenant, would be sealed with the blood of Yeshua. This sealing would engrave His Torah on our minds forever, and make us new creations with Yeshua's righteousness.

I like to connect Passover to the Resurrection even though, we might not all be in agreement on the timing..It seems important to me at this time, that we focus on truth when so much confusion is being spread.. I hope all of you are blessed by the riches that we have in Yeshua, and in His Word. May the bread of life, give you sustenance in the days ahead.

This week we are still eating the bread that has no leaven, Yeshua. As we eat of this bread, and realize that we have already His righteousness, in spite of our transgressions, may we walk in these precious truths that God has left us with.

Joyce
 
Amen Joyce,
I couldn't agree with you more.

At the moment that the Centurian pierced
Jesus' side and the water and blood flowed out, at that very moment they were kiling the Passover lamb.
Also remember that none of his bones were broken
just as no bones of the Paschal Lamb were to be broken.
 
unrelated topic... i've been watching for the Maitreya star over the last couple of months. Share International just posted a new video for the "Maitreya Star" on Youtube. their aim is to begin the discussion of the star, paving the way for the Maitreya. just search "maitreya star" on Youtube
 
To Sara:

I am THRILLED to learn about your baptism!

God bless you! Please forgive me for not getting back sooner

Constance
 
Has anyone heard the theory that the star that is shining for Maitrya could be the international space station?

Someone I know suggested this. I read the April newsletter from Maitrya and it is stated that the "star-Like object moves around unlike a star. It also changes color. It is said to look yellow or golden. If it was the interantional space station they have solar panels on it that they just recently unfolded more. Therefore making it brighter in the sky. I have not done much investigation on this idea, but I think it may be a very good possiblity since Creme is not saying it is a true star.

I suggest reading the description of the star in the April newsletter. They act as if it moves around and changes locations. It almost sounded more like a UFO then a star.


Let me know what you think.
 
i'm in CA. Venus was extremely prominent in our western sky early in the night during January and February. it was spectacular! one person who questioned share international from Toluca Lake, CA asked if it was Maitreya's star. share international answered "yes". that is posted in their April newsletter. i am positive that this person was seeing Venus. "stars moving" or following you is just an optical illusion. i've experienced that looking at a full moon. what struck me from the Share International newsletter is that THEY desire to escalate the "maitreya star" discussion. this is what THEY desire. today, THEY are "beginning the chatter" for the emergence of their New World savior. this is similar to the "fame of the miracles" that the LORD Jesus performed at the beginning of His ministry. is it intended to coincide with the New World Order? i'll keep watching....
 
oldmanoftheski:

Welcome back and please stick around!

Constance
 
Bella,

The so-called "star" could be any number of things, but my assumption is that the Share People, (among a host of others), are waiting for a real astrological event.

There's always more going on outside our narrow vision than meets the eye. Here's some links/excerpts re the latest object to enter our neigborhood, another "green" comet....which, interestingly enough, doesn't appear to rise and set like most celestial objects do:

Northern circumpolar Comet Yi-SWAN is gliding through the constellation Cassiopeia where it can be seen at almost any hour of the night through amateur telescopes…

Circumpolar- is an expression used for celestial bodies which are above the horizon throughout the day, i.e. they do not rise or set. As the Earth rotates they appear to prescribe a circle around the celestial pole.

At the moment, the green, fuzzy comet is about as bright as an 8th-magnitude star--too dim for the naked eye. If predictions are correct, it will remain a telescopic comet, brightening only a little as it approaches the sun for a 190 million kilometer not-so-close encounter on May 8th.

Astronomers will get a better look at the comet in the evenings ahead as the bright light of the full Moon fades.

This appears to be Comet Yi-SWAN's first visit to the inner solar system. A fresh comet exposed to intense sunlight for the first time can behave in unexpected ways.

Keep in mind that back in October of 2007….Comet 17P/Holmes, a relatively obscure and dim object, suddenly flared a million times brighter, going from magnitude 18 to 2.0, rivalling in brilliance the brightest stars!

Astronomers are keeping a close eye on Yi-Swan, having learned from experience to expect the unexpected.

http://www.spaceweather.com/archive.php?view=1&day=11&month=04&year=2009

http://www.skyandtelescope.com/resources/proamcollab/astroalert/42672257.html

http://www.space.com/spacewatch/071026-comet-holmes-update.html

http://www.universetoday.com/2009/04/08/new-comet-yi-swan/
 
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