Friday, April 03, 2009

MAKING WOUNDED IN COMBAT AND OTHER VETERANS PAY FOR MORE FOR THEIR HEALTH CARE -- IS THIS FAIR?

On principles of fundamental fairness alone, this bothers me -- immensely! Read on. The article is part of a larger excellent analysis by Laura Armstrong, columnist, as appearing in the Marietta Daily Journal

"And then Obama spoke eloquently of expanding veteran's health care, making military families a top priority. Wife Michelle even took time, he reminded, to "learn about the unique burdens" of his audience, and he garnered much applause while assuring pay raises and the ever-important "expanded counseling and outreach."


I was impressed, truly, until I wasn't.

For even as the president spoke, his budget was being prepared. And in Chapters 95 through 98 of OMB's Budget Options, Volume 1, Health Care, possible details of the Democrats' plans for the troops have been published.

In the nutshell of my column space, I can't give many numbers. Rest assured they're ugly and undo years of promises and progress for military families. Most new guidelines would begin in 2011, conveniently after mid-term elections. If implemented, they'll hit hard.

Option 95 is titled: Increase Health Care Cost Sharing for Family Members of Active-Duty Military Personnel. It's self-explanatory.

Option 96 introduces punitive new co-pays and other out-of-pocket fees for our oldest, frailest veterans, the ones on a true fixed income. Members of TRICARE For Life, Obama plans to hold them responsible for their first $525 in medical costs and 50 percent of the next $4,725, indexed to increase with inflation. So much for their sacrifices and promises made.


Option 97 will affect my family. It's entitled: Increase Medical Cost Sharing for Retirees Who are Not Yet Eligible for Medicare. These cost increases (doubling enrollment fees and raising co-pays and deductibles dramatically) would burden widows and orphans of KIAs, as well as former service members aged 38-65. This includes troops wounded severely in combat with limited access to VA care.

Option 98, which I call Pay Again to Play, puts new fees on lower income vets, adding them to millions who already must give again to their government for once-promised health care. On page 189, the OMB bean counters recommend eliminating TRICARE For Life entirely.


As hopeful hearts turn heavy, the writing is on the OMB Web site. Is the new administration calm on top, like a duck, pledging support? Will its feet slash and burn out of sight below, delivering promises to the wrong groups, while betraying our deserving troops?


Patriots everywhere should be concerned. Call Congress. Write. Only a backlash will stop them from sliding these changes, and our military, under the door.
lbarmstrong3378@comcast.net



Yes, complain about this one. The military families have suffered quite enough without these additional burdens. We owe them at a MINIMUM, decent health care!

Constance

88 comments:

Anonymous said...

Can't help but notice that he hasn't bought his kids that promised dog yet. I heard him joke, "that was a campaign promise." What words of him can we now believe??!!

Anonymous said...

Constance - I emailed you today at your gmail address about something totally off topic and personal. Could you spare a few minutes to read and advise please. Heartfelt thanks, ~K~

Anonymous said...

G-20 Makes Six Pledges Toward New World Order

http://www.infowars.com/g-20-makes-six-pledges-toward-new-world-order/

Anonymous said...

From Bloomberg (04/03/09):

G-20 Shapes New World Order With Lesser Role for U.S., Markets

Global leaders took their biggest steps yet toward a new world order that’s less U.S.-centric with a more heavily regulated financial industry and a greater role for international institutions and emerging markets.

At the end of a summit in London, policy makers from the Group of 20 yesterday delivered a regulatory blueprint that French President Nicholas Sarkozy said turned the page on the Anglo-Saxon model of free markets by placing stricter limits on hedge funds and other financiers. The leaders also pledged to triple the resources of the International Monetary Fund and to hand China and other developing economies a greater say in the management of the world economy.

“It’s the passing of an era,” said Robert Hormats, vice chairman of Goldman Sachs International, who helped prepare summits for presidents Gerald R. Ford, Jimmy Carter and Ronald Reagan. “The U.S. is becoming less dominant while other nations are gaining influence.”

http://www.infowars.com/g-20-shapes-new-world-order-with-lesser-role-for-us-markets/

Anonymous said...

This Georgia newspaper starts out with "possible democratic budget option" and winds up with Obama named specifically for reductions in benefits and rises in costs as if this is already law.

Anonymous said...

Why is anyone surprised about Obama. You don't get to be president unless you are totally soldout to the elite and have at least a strong sympathy for the New Age if not a full blown supporter.

I have from before the election, and haven't changed, expected Obama to stick the knife in our backs and support the destruction of our country (by the way, I don't believe John McCain would have been any different).

I don't believe we've seen anything yet and believe the elite's goals are now in reach and they will push through their plans no matter what anyone thinks. Expect them to get more open and bolder as each week goes by.

Not surprised.

Dave in CA

tkaione said...

I don't know where to post this but I'm posting it here. I found this disturbing article about a fundraiser taking place this weekend in NY towards a goal of teaching a million kids about transcendental meditation.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/us_beatles

Anonymous said...

Oh the times they are a changin'

Over at http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/ you can read how Homeland Security is writing up those who dare to throw tea parties.

At http://eureferendum.blogspot.com/
you can read more about the European Rapid Reaction Force, how the media doesn't cover world government even though that is what G20 was about and Helen over in England writes "America is still our greatest ally and leader of the Western world. Whether it will be all of that as this Administration unrolls remains to be seen."

And the teleprompter
http://baracksteleprompter.blogspot.com/ lets us know how successful he has been with his 500 member entourage...
"
Then, in a private meeting, Big O got Sarkozy to agree to take one of the "Guantanamo 248." This is a huge step. We expect Germany will take one, too. And Secretary of State Dick Holbrooke and his assistant, Hillary, think they have cut a deal with the Syrians, who will take the rest with no strings attached. Just shows what a little honey can do. "

I just wonder how many it took to lift the long train of his ermine cape as he wandered through Europe.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
I would like to get everyone's feedback on this article.

http://www.infowars.com/plastic-coffin-liners-being-delivered-by-the-truckloads/

11:54 PM

This wouldn't happen to be man of the capitol of fmnt? You may want to call your sister.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
I would like to get everyone's feedback on this article.

http://www.infowars.com/plastic-coffin-liners-being-delivered-by-the-truckloads/

11:54 PM

This wouldn't happen to be man of the capitol of fmnt? You may want to call your sister.

Anonymous said...

sorry about that....I messed up

Anonymous said...

This is a discussion of what those things really are. It's pretty clear they aren't coffin liners.

http://forums.randi.org/archive/index.php/t-118619.html

Rudi said...

H.R. 645:
111th Congress

2009-2010
National Emergency Centers Establishment Act

Introduced 1/22/09

Congressional Research Service Summary:

"National Emergency Centers Establishment Act - Directs the Secretary of Homeland Security to establish at least six national emergency centers on military installations to use existing infrastructure to provide: (1) temporary housing, medical, and humanitarian assistance to individuals and families dislocated due to an emergency or major disaster; and (2) centralized locations for the training of first responders and the coordination of preparedness, response, and recovery efforts.
Lists minimum requirements for sites for such centers, including that they be capable of: (1) meeting for an extended period the housing, health, transportation, education, public works, humanitarian, and other transition needs of a large number of individuals affected; (2) being scaled up or down to accommodate major disaster preparedness and response drills, operations, and procedures; (3) housing existing permanent structures necessary to meet training and first responders coordination requirements during non-disaster periods; and (4) hosting the infrastructure necessary to rapidly adjust to temporary housing, medical, and humanitarian assistance needs.
Sets forth center location requirements, including requiring the Secretary to designate closed military installations as sites whenever possible and to designate portions of existing
military installations as centers otherwise."

http://tinyurl.com/b9kcox

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h111-645&tab=summary

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Full Text of Bill H.R. 645

http://tinyurl.com/aqsngh

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h111-645
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Latest Major Action: 2/6/2009 Referred to House subcommittee. Status: Referred to the Subcommittee on Terrorism, Unconventional Threats and Capabilities.

http://tinyurl.com/ctco5v

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d111:h.r.00645:
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Full Text
The Library of Congress/ Thomas

http://tinyurl.com/bsubaa

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:h645:
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-Rudi

bobbie said...

I was horrified to read this yet, I did hear something to that effect. I really shouldn't be surprised or shocked by what Obama would do or say. He is a lier and probably not even a naturalized citizen. I just pray that one of the many lawsuits against him will will come about and prove that he should not be president.

Anonymous said...

Why wait until Alex Jones feeds you conspiracy thoughts one at a time. Go here and find endless conspiracy discussions. If you tire of them, you can always explore military topics on other parts of the website.
http://forums.military.com/eve/forums/a/frm/f/4960045241001/p/1 or
http://tinyurl.com/dc77mk

Hours and hours of great fun with unfounded speculations that scare people.

Constance Cumbey said...

SLEEPLESS IN MICHIGAN . . . wish Herb Peters were here to talk to about this:

"The EU is poised to become a significant global actor. In the next five years it must not only respond
to a growing demand for crisis management, but also define and implement a foreign policy culture
and approach that provide a role model for global security. Much has been done since 2003 to
prepare for this role. As Javier Solana points out, there is a ‘European model’ of multilateralism,
coherence and partnership emerging in foreign policy. However, this model is not fully codified at
present and the EU has developed a limited common language to express what this model is and how
it works.
The emerging European model is perhaps the only way that the global security needs of the twentyfirst
century can be fulfilled. A new phase of the European Security and Defence Policy is needed to
spell out the philosophy and the operating methods that define a European Way of Security. For 50
years the European Union has applied its inventiveness to creating a peaceful community among its
member states. Now it needs to show that it can be equally innovative and committed in addressing
crises in the wider world.

http://tinyurl.com/d4qb5m
or
http://www.lse.ac.uk/Depts/global/PDFs/Madrid%20Report%20Final%20for%20distribution.pdf

This was a June 2007 document

Constance

Constance Cumbey said...

More sleepless in Michigan -- from a brand new interview by Javier Solana to a Turkish newspaper:

‘I have some concerns about the new Israeli government’

Do you have any concerns about the new Israeli government?

Yes, I have some concerns. I have devoted much of my energy to try to construct a two-state solution. This is our dream and objective, like Turkey as well as the international community. I think dealing with an Israeli government that does not recognize the two-state formula will be more difficult. I hope very much that this government, despite some of the statements that have been already made, will continue to work for a two-state solution and do this very rapidly. This should not be done in 100 years’ time. That has to be done now.
http://www.todayszaman.com/tz-web/detaylar.do?load=detay&link=171406&bolum=102
or
http://tinyurl.com/de6dle

Constance

Constance Cumbey said...

MORE SLEEPLESS IN MICHIGAN

Big things happening, big dreamers scheming . . . check this:

"Common Ground: Science and Religion in Dialogue for a Sustainable Future

http://www.policyinnovations.org/calendar/data/000041


Sunday, May 3, 2009
03:00 PM to 03:00 PM


Description:
Given what scientists confirm is the state of our planet, it is critical that science and religion engage each other and share their diverse approaches to understanding our interdependence and our impact upon the earth. Creating such dialogue is essential for understanding the earth as not only a biophysical home, but also as the common ground for the interdependence and unity of all life.

Though science and religion may speak differently about value or meaning, the earth figures centrally for both modes of knowledge. Our common cause motivates our need to understand our effects upon the earth and each other, and calls for global collaboration to sustain the living world.

On Sunday and Monday, May 3 and 4, 2009, The Center for the Study of Science and Religion at the Earth Institute of Columbia University, in collaboration with the Fetzer Institute of Kalamazoo, Michigan, is holding a public dialogue between science and religion on sustainability.
Join us as scholars, leaders, and activists from diverse perspectives meet to describe and plot a path toward a sustainable and equitable future. We look forward to exciting conversations as our distinguished speakers explore these topics.

Program

Sunday, May 3rd, 3:00pm

Keynote Address: James Hansen – NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies

Panel I: Sustainable Business
Creating A Vision For Sustainable Business, Science And Religion
Moderated by Devin T. Stewart – Global Policy Innovations Program/Carnegie Council for Ethics in International Affairs

PANELISTS:
Kevin Knobloch, Union of Concerned Scientists
Fletcher Harper, GreenFaith
George Pohle, MediaBound / Suasoria

Monday, May 4th, 10:00am

Keynote Address:
Mary Evelyn Tucker – Yale/Forum on Religion and Ecology

Panel II: Education
Educating for Partnership With Science And Religion
Moderated by Robert E. Pollack – Center for the Study of Science and Religion/Columbia University

PANELISTS:
Laurel Kearns, Drew Theological School
Jim Mihelcic, University of South Florida
Joan Anderson, Soka Gakkai International

12:30pm Break for Lunch. Resume at 2:00p.m.

Keynote Address:
Peter Mann – World Hunger Year/Global Movements Program

Panel III: Best Practices
Empowering Eco-Justice Advocacy Through The Resources Of Science And Religion.

Moderated by Lois Barber – EarthAction

PANELISTS:
Pedro Sanchez, Earth Institute, Columbia University
Lawrence Troster, GreenFaith
Harlem Eco-Mappers

Location:
Low Rotunda, Columbia University

Contact:
This program is the fourth in a series of symposia sponsored by the Fetzer Institute with the Center for the Study of Science and Religion. For more information and to RSVP, please contact Cynthia Peabody:
cmr93@columbia.edu

Constance

Constance Cumbey said...

Here's a TM funder for this global governance bunch:


David Lynch Foundation for Consciousness-Based Education and World Peace


Description The David Lynch Foundation for Consciousness-Based Education and World Peace was founded in July 2005 to provide scholarships for school-wide Transcendental Meditation programs in public, charter, and private schools throughout the United States and around the world, and to provide funds for universities and research institutions to assess the effects of the program on creativity, intelligence, academic performance, ADHD and other learning disorders, anxiety, depression, substance abuse, eating disorders, etc.

Contact Post Office Box 93158
Hollywood, CA 90093
Phone: 323-874-2467
Fax: 641-472-1165

Email info@davidlynchfoundation.org

Website http://www.davidlynchfoundation.org/ (link opens in a new window)

Joyce said...

Along the same lines as Common Ground:

http://www.iep21.org/forum/

http://www.cg.org/Links_View.aspx

and a Jesuit University pushing globalization:

http://www.globalisationforthecommongood.info/

http://www.cg.org/Locations_view.aspx?LocationID=12

Turkey is an interesting location for AoC meeting, with its history as a crossroads of civilizations, just as Spain had a history with Islam, Christianity and Judaism and the first AoC meeting was in Spain:

http://www.cg.org/Files/Hagia_Sophia.CettaKenney.Oct07.pdf

Joyce

paul said...

Dave in CA,
Amen.
His election defies logic. He has no credentials and
his experience is all in a corrupt city full of corrupt
polititians.
Oprah Winfrey got him elected.
Charisma?
Who gives a hoot?
He's a Muslim on a jihad.
He's a liar and his mission is to finish tearing down
what GW Bush left standing.

All we did was re elect Brazynski and Shultz and
Kissinger, etc.
Sieg Heil !

joyce said...

More from the Common Ground movement:

http://www.interreligiousinsight.org/About.html

Joyce

Baloney Man said...

Baloney man says:

Obama not on a jihad. Total baloney. McCain would never sell-out his country. Total baloney. Was in POW camp under awful conditions. Made sacrifice for our sake. Hero in my book.

Joyce said...

IEP21 had links to this:

http://www.interfaith-encounter.org/

Daniel Maloney from Google is on the board of this organization, which is connected to interfaith encounter:

http://www.childrenofabraham.org

Take a careful look.

Joyce

Jaclyn said...

Constance, this may be off topic but I know you were good friends with Herb Peters and he seems to have had some extraordinary insight into prophecy. I found a timeline where he stated that Daniels 70th week would not last for a full 7 years but perhaps 6 years or so due to Christ' return to earth. I had never heard that, but it answers a few questions and actually makes sense.

Do you also agree that the week would be cut short of the full seven years? Is there a specific scripture stating such?

Thanks for all your help, it's much appreciated!

Jaclyn said...

Have I answered my own question? Perhaps the 7 years is referring to the 7 year covenant, but scripture doesn't necessarily say that the seals, trumpets and bowls endure for the full seven years.

Any thoughts on this are apprecieated ;-)

Anonymous said...

Take a moment and see the images from the links and then read the paragraph below,which is from one of them - remembering a month and a half ago the "star" that everyone was fussing over was actually Venus.
Remember that NATO is by treaty the UN's standing army.

http://tinyurl.com/dk6w55

http://tinyurl.com/dznr3t


Tablet of Shamash
Babylonian, early 9th century BC
From Sippar, southern Iraq

The restoration of the Sun-god's image and temple

This stone tablet shows Shamash, the sun-god, seated under an awning and holding the rod and ring, symbols of divine authority. The symbols of the Sun, Moon and Venus are above him with another large sun symbol supported by two divine attendants. On the left is the Babylonian king Nabu-apla-iddina between two interceding deities.



Now spend time reflecting on what is transpiring at this very moment.



DouginMI

Anonymous said...

At FP-

http://conferences.
euobserver.com/
internet/index

The Internet of Things
Europe 2009

Emerging Technologies for the Future

7th and 8th May 2009/ Brussels

NEWS OPINION BLOGS AGENDA ADSBRIEF BOOKS CONFERENCES
The objective of this conference is to discuss critical business and societal issues relating to the future "Internet of Things", address concerns to embrace its development for the benefit of European society and explore the challenges ahead. The development of ever more inexpensive, smarter devices - ranging from ID tags to sensors to wearable computers - coupled with the "unwiring" of the networks they connect to, promises to transform the way we use and think about the Internet.

The conference is taking place on Thursday, May 7, 2009 8:30 AM - Friday, May 8 1:00 PM CET at: Sofitel Brussels Europe Hotel, Place Jourdan 1, Brussels 1040, Belgium.

Join business leaders, consumer advocates, policymakers and entrepreneurs to find out how this Internet of Things will impact our interaction with the real and virtual worlds. Panelists and speakers at the Internet of Things Europe 2009 conference will share their insights into this developing phenomenon:

What can be learnt from experience with radio frequency identification (RFID) technology?
What new business opportunities arise for vendors, application developers and network operators?
How can public policy be used to encourage research and innovation?
What novel service and communication architectures may be required to support the Internet of Things?
What new regulatory and consumer and civil rights issues are posed by such smart, connected devices?

Anonymous said...

OK, please help me understand.

For years, Constance has been teaching us that the New Age Movement's (New World Order's) long term GOAL is to remove a certain large percentage of the world's population from this earth. Then, when we go and try to warn family and friends, they call us "Kooks"...saying,"Oh, that will NEVER happen."

Then, when a few brave souls on this blog have the "audacity" to point out the very REAL fact that Halliburton's subsidiary, Kellogg Brown & Root was given a $385 MILLION dollar contract in early 2006 by our own government's Department of Homeland Security to build HUNDREDS of detention centers...and that their locations in every state are now well documented...then some of the "kooks" on Constance's blog start treating the rest of us like we're the "kooks." LOL (just too ironic and just too funny).

Yeah, yeah - we know. They were built for "immigration purposes"...or "natural disaster purposes"...or "purposes of a national emergency."

Only the government that I have come to know, and become just a little bit suspicious of, doesn't seem to be interested in putting illegal aliens in detention centers. They are too busy ALLOWING them into our country to take American jobs, or to join powerful drug gangs already firmly intrenched in one of our 230 cities. As for natural disasters, WHERE was our government's "heart" and compassion during Hurricane Katrina...when we got to watch the poor people of New Orleans stranded on roof tops, dying of hunger and thirst before our very eyes on live television? And what "national emergency" are we talking about? Oh wait - there's always Martial Law. Oooooohhhhhh - but hey, don't mind me - I'm just one of those OTHER "kooks."

Anonymous said...

Hey, Anonymous @ 1:35 -

YOU ROCK!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

Anonymous 1:35
Your problem is the same as that of many people who want to be the first on the block to report the latest gossip to their neighbors, only in your case it's gossip about how the New Age movement is coming to their neighborhood. You aren't a kook, just a gossip who has access to the internet instead of a willing ear and a front porch.

Do some serious documenting. You say the camps are well documented? Well provide documentation that can't be refuted as so much of that propaganda is in the links given above.

UNFOUNDED SPECULATION IS FOOLISH.

Anonymous said...

To Anonymous @ 2:07 -

These web sites are too numerous to mention. All a person has to do is google the subject and voila.

If you can refute it, then be our guest and go ahead and refute it. So far, we haven't seen any proof from your side of the argument either.

Maybe the truth is that certain people are in denial that this could actually happen here in the great United States of America.

Also, if this were a healthy debate, you wouldn't need to try to tear down and insult your opposition. You would stick to the issue.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous 2:27
You said it, you prove it.
"and that their locations in every state are now well documented". If I said 200 leprechauns are attacking Atlanta, I wouldn't expect you to prove they weren't. See how that works.

UNFOUNDED SPECULATIONS do not constitute healthy debate. If I said 200 leprechauns were attacking Atlanta and you said no, it was 200 lesbians, this wouldn't be considered healthy debate. See how that works.

Unfounded speculation only makes those of us seriously fighting the New Age movement look like a bunch of loons who can believe anything that tickles the ear.

While formation coming out of DC, Brussels and other such sources can be frightening, it is not at the level of whether it is 200 leprechauns or 200 lesbians that are attacking Atlanta. See how that works! The real information is most often dry and boring, complicated to follow, embedded in a mass of numbers and statistics and tied to people in suits with names. It involves long term planning. It is not discussed nightly on Coast to Coast.

Anonymous said...

Did anyone catch the "as above - so below" symbolism at the NATO conference today?

DouginMI

SV said...

As I'm preparing my emergency
back-up supplies for any and all emergency situations that are currently anticipated, I was thinking, I just don't have enough really good chicken soup recipes.
I wish I knew someone who had a huge repertoire of helpful recipes.

By His Grace,
-SV

Anonymous said...

To Anonymous @ 3:02

LOL - although I would love to equate KBR and FEMA with "leprechauns and lesbians" - I wish this whole thing was just a joke instead of the nightmare that it has become.

No, anonymous - I am not going to do your homework for you. Look it up yourself. If necessary, do a search on "FEMA camp locations" - since KBR and FEMA are working together on this "amusing" little project.

Only time will tell who is right and who is wrong. And, believe it or not, I am actually pulling for YOU.

Susanna said...

Hi Constance,

I am sure you must be aware of the connections between the Fetzer Institute and the Institute for Noetic Sciences.

But have you ever checked out the connections and cross-pollination between both of these aforementioned institutes and groups that collectively go by the name of the Max Planck Society (once known as the Kaiser Wilhelm Society)?

If you think you are "SLEEPLESS IN MICHIGAN" now............

Anonymous said...

Anonymous 4:30 pm
No, the New Age movement is not a joke.

By the way, it's your homework. You made the allegation. Prove it. The fact is, you can't or you would. You're not my teacher. You don't assign me homework. I've nothing to learn from you.

Those who follow your line of thinking believe bold sweeping statements made by fear mongers who want to arouse the fears of people and make them dependent on the fear monger for further gossip which they generally sell. They distract those on the right track by getting their adrenalin aroused with wild statements that can't be proved, only suggested.

Whether it's Marrs, Rense, LaRouche, Jones or other con artists, their information never leads back to the hard work done by serious researchers. Who wants to take the time to examine bills in Congress when aliens are coming or Maitreya is just around the bend. Heck, they believe let the suckers think they are getting the big picture, not details. They tell the suckers they REALLY KNOW.

And you know something, it works. After almost 30 years there are very, very few serious researchers of the New Age movement. There are the end timers who want to endlessly speculate on the ten horns or some such. There are some academics who pick a section like the occult and work it to death. There are the conservative spokesmen like Limbaugh, Hannity, Medved, Levin, Regan, Coulter, etc., up to date entertainers who wouldn't touch information about the New Age movement with their gold money making septers. Then there is the Coast to Coast crowd who senses are shocked, I tell you shocked, night after night with wonderous tales of crop designs, UFOs, ghosts, predictions and reincarnation stories. Then there are the professional antisemites with their tales of villains who operate in the dark of night to destroy us all and if you send them more money, they can tell you more secrets. Then there are the rip off writers with their spritely rehashes of old material.

With all of these amazing distractions for the popular audience, who has time for boring, serious, academic level looks at New Age growth.

I think it's planned that way and that's a conspiracy I believe.

Anonymous said...

FEMA camp locations...

http://tinyurl.com/96fbn

Anonymous said...

Anonymous 6:24
Information too vague to be proof of anything. A list of government property doesn't tell anyone about a set up as a camp. Just who are "Friends of Liberty" that they should be trusted as a source of this information. If I set up a website and call myself "King of Southern Illinois", it doesn't make me King of Southern Illinois. And if I as King say I have three camps in Southern Illinois, that information would be just as useless as the list you provided.

Want to buy a bridge?

Anonymous said...

I know one thing. I don't want to "buy" anything you have to say anymore - with your "superior" and condescending attitude toward others on this blog who are trying to share and learn like everyone else.

One day, you and Joyce will have this blog all to yourselves. And you both can have fun making each other misersble.

erich2002 said...

All, I recommend an outstanding article by Erica Carle posted today at http://www.newswithviews.com/Erica/Carle151.htm, entitled "Spiritual Reorganization of the Civilized World." After referring this article to my sister-in-law, she responded by thanking me and wrote the following: "I anticipate true Christians becoming increasingly marginalized in society the next coming years. If you look at some links on my blog you will see Christians trying to form communities out side of 'Babylon' /these people are my friends and we are increasingly alarmed at what we see happening in terms of potential for global governance in the upcoming years. Time to 'watch and pray'". By the way, her outstanding blog is at:
www.livingskies.wordpress.com.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous 7:19
I don't feel sorry for you as you play the victim. Anyone posting information here should be able to back it up. There are plenty of other places for you to post your beliefs where they will pat you on the head and tell you how brilliant you are for agreeing with them.

I'm serious enough about the fight against the New Age to fight planted distractions.

Anonymous said...

Just for your information - that was another anonymous poster who provided you with that link to the FEMA camp locations.

Anonymous said...

When FEMA comes knocking on your door one night - you be sure and tell them not to "distract" you from your serious research into the New Age Movement.

Anonymous said...

OK I'm the one who posted the info on the camps and here is the Google map locations of them...look them up on Google earth too...

http://tinyurl.com/b6ryda

I'm also the one whose husband works for the military... and I can tell you for a FACT these camps are real and some have been around for 20 or more years... they are manned but most have no occupants... you go ahead and believe what you will, Thomas doubted too, I just pray for you that you don't see before you believe... by then it will be too late.

Anonymous said...

To Anonymous @ 7:57 -

Thank you for your support.

May God bless you . . . and may God help ALL of us.

paul said...

So Anonymous 6:07,
You're a serious academic who does serious research,
but you just don't want to, or dare to, put your name on your serious work, Anonymous ?

DavidinB.C. said...

DouginMI,

I missed that. Glad you caught it. I wonder what that's all about. Off the top of my head I believe the "as above-so below" comes out of the Lord's Prayer as interpretted by "The Message" Bible paraphrase. Sounds like something out of Star Trek to me.
What's with all the anonymous?

Anonymous said...

Appears Tony Blair is an EU Presidential hopeful if the Lisbon Treaty is ratified.

http://tinyurl.com/c2ewto

Anonymous said...

HEHEHEHEHE!

Been gone about two months from here and nothing's changed!

Hi Dorothy!
Errrr, I mean anonymous 6:07.

Just stopped by to say hi.

I thought Michele Obama looked fabulous, by the way, next to the skinny French chanteuse! Long live the Queen!

What a weird week!

Hope everyone is well.

Happy Easter, Passover, college basketball week, whatever.

Signed,

Sleeping well in Florida.

Anonymous said...

What need do I have to put my name here... I seek not honer among men but from my Lord Jesus Christ... he is my honor, my savior & my joy... I will pray for you Paul, decent seams to be what you seek and I will not go there... Thank you 8:21... he has blessed me, he helped me find this board. Peace be to all.
S

Anonymous said...

discordance is what I should have said.. decent has nothing to do with your behavior on this board Paul.

Rudi said...

NEW ARTICLE FROM RICH PETERSON

April 3, 2009
Obama to Attend Istanbul Alliance of Civilizations Forum

"Newspapers throughout the Middle East are excitedly proclaiming that a new era of relations have begun as President Obama is to take part in the Istanbul Alliance of Civilizations forum..."

Rudi said...

Link to Rich's site
A Time, Times, and a Half a Time

http://www.pineline.blogspot.com/

Anonymous said...

Dear anonymous 10:03,

You are most certainly not anonymous 6:07, whom Paul was referring to.

If you are, you are faking the bad spelling.

Constance sometimes corrects people's spelling, but I am not Constance. I'm just someone who stopped by to say hello last night at 10:02.

Obviously no one missed me, hehehe.

By they way, if you want to see a lovely movie and forget about all the doom and gloom for a while, I just rented Miss Potter. It was very, very soothing and beautifully done. Miss Potter was obviously an environmentalist, but she was a gal after my own heart- creative and sensitive. The movie was gorgeous.

Rent it, and forget about the FEMA camps and mailbox dots for a while!

Okay, see you all in another coupla(SP) months!

Jaclyn said...

Share International updated their website. I copied a little piece below. Lets see, I guess they are waiting for Venus to move beyond the sight of men for the star to appear, and when Maitrey comes on the scene he won't be called Maitreya so that men will judge his ideas rather than his status. I don't know if there is anything new here or not. How long can they keep dragging this out?
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Behind the scenes, Maitreya watches carefully these happenings, and gives succour wherever the Law allows. He waits, patiently, for the build-up of response to the sign of His Emergence, the “star-like luminary of brilliant power” on which many now gaze in wonder and even love.

What is desired is some measure of public debate about the significance or meaning of the Star, thus signifying the emergence of Maitreya, the World Teacher. The greater and more public the discussion, the greater does it prepare the way for Maitreya’s entry. Soon there will be no gainsaying. Very soon, Venus will move beyond the sight of men and so leave the platform of the heavens open to the Star. Then there will be no doubt that the Star is there for all to see.
If sufficient discussion can be fostered on the various media and internet it will not be long until men see and hear Maitreya speak. He will not be so called, that men can judge His ideas rather than His status.

Crisis

As the economic crisis deepens, a singular reaction is appearing in many countries: alongside the fear, bravado and growing despair is a new understanding of the reasons for the crash -- the greed and competitive spirit at the centre of our systems and, therefore, the need for sharing. Of themselves, many are awakening to this basic truth and see sharing as the answer to injustice and war. Thus are many ready for Maitreya’s Call. This realization will grow as the crisis bites deeper and deeper into the shaky fabric of the outworn forms and structures that no longer work, can never be made to work for long.

When Maitreya speaks, He will show that this is so, that the world is ready for the adoption of new and better forms, based on the true needs of the peoples everywhere. His is the task to focus and strengthen this growing realization of the oneness and unity of men, of their mutual dependence and awakening divinity. Thus will Maitreya and humanity work together for the restoration of this world.

Anonymous said...

David in BC....
"as above, so below" is masonic -

DouginMI

Anonymous said...

I am Reposting - due to the Venus observation -

Take a moment and see the images from the links and then read the paragraph below,which is from one of them - remembering a month and a half ago the "star" that everyone was fussing over was actually Venus.
Remember that NATO is by treaty the UN's standing army.

http://tinyurl.com/dk6w55

http://tinyurl.com/dznr3t


Tablet of Shamash
Babylonian, early 9th century BC
From Sippar, southern Iraq

The restoration of the Sun-god's image and temple

This stone tablet shows Shamash, the sun-god, seated under an awning and holding the rod and ring, symbols of divine authority. The symbols of the Sun, Moon and Venus are above him with another large sun symbol supported by two divine attendants. On the left is the Babylonian king Nabu-apla-iddina between two interceding deities.



Now spend time reflecting on what is transpiring at this very moment.



DouginMI

Constance Cumbey said...

To Jacklyn:

In all my conversations with Herb Peters, which were many, many, I never heard him say such a thing. If he expressed such a belief to others, I have no present knowledge. Herb and I did have some differences of opinion on prophetic interpretation. We both agreed, as I recall, on the interpretation of 2nd Thessalonians, Chapter 2. We both agreed that TIME AND EVENTS would eventually tell -- that neither of us had all the answers and that humility was required to approach the subject. We both agreed that it would be very nice if the pre-trib rapture people were right, but it would be devastating to all if they were not and people lost their faith because they believed no persecution were ever to come upon them.

Constance

Constance Cumbey said...

To Anonymous 12:43

THANKS for calling the Internet of Things update to my attention -- I had a busy Saturday and did not see the FP items you quote. This is ominous, disturbing, and along with this check out GMES on a google search.

Constance

Constance Cumbey said...

to 1:35 p.m. You are absolutely right about the Halliburton contract which has long been of concern to me. I am also, however, worried about the "Mark of Michigan" syndrome which was stirring up hysteria and paralysis. Real things are happening, but what we have to remember is HOW TO WAKE PEOPLE UP WITHOUT SCARING THEM TO DEATH.

"They overcame the beast by the BLOOD OF THE LAMB and the WORD OF THEIR TESTIMONY and THEY LOVED NOT THEIR LIVES UNTO THE DEATH."

The purpose of this is wake up, prepare, but let's not inspire our own to go on missions that can inspire the Javier Solanas and Karen Armstrongs of the world to point to more urgent needs to restrain us.

I do appreciate your research and work.

Constance

Constance Cumbey said...

To 3:02 a.m. Your words are wisdom as well. Very often plans are embedded in what if we express it is dismissed as "too much information."

Constance

Walt said...

Well, we fixed the veteran health care issue, see article in Detroit Free Press Sunday April 5, 2009 page 22A bottom,"Better benefits planned for veterans" by John Ya
ukey, Gannet Washington Bureau.

FOTM-Walt

Anonymous said...

To Constance (11:10 AM):

I appreciate your vote of confidence. It means a lot to me.

I apologize for "scaring" anyone here. That was not my intention.

I just felt that if I can't discuss this subject here - then, where can I discuss it?

We can all be comforted by the fact that, as long as we place our complete faith and trust in God, our Father in Heaven - He will guide us and give us the necessary grace and strength to deal with any dark days ahead.

Anonymous said...

To all -
HOW TO WAKE PEOPLE UP WITHOUT SCARING THEM TO DEATH.

Good question - can we all give our 2 cents and maybe the Lord will bless it

DouginMI

DavidinB.C. said...

DouginMi,

That's interesting. I just checked the Lord's Prayer from the Message:

Our Father in heaven,
Reveal who you are.
Set the world right;
Do what's best— as above, so below.
Keep us alive with three square meals.
Keep us forgiven with you and forgiving others.
Keep us safe from ourselves and the Devil.
You're in charge!
You can do anything you want!
You're ablaze in beauty!
Yes. Yes. Yes.

The Freemasons use this too! Maybe there is something to Freemason conspiracy. Gulp!

Walt said...

For Jaclyn
10:50am. & 11:02am.

The study of things to come in the future based on Bible prophecy is termed Biblical Eschatology. There are a variety of views on what is to come. These differing views are held by equally sincere christians and in general have to do with their respective methods of interpreting prophetic passages of scripture.

Representatives of each view have books detailing their sequence of prophetic events according to their method of biblical interpretation.

To help me understand the different views and the basis for them I searched for and found a book that discussed them all, it is entitled "Things to Come" a study in Biblical Eschatology by J.Dwight Pentecost, Th.D.. Published in 1958, extensive Bibliography, Scripture Index, Subject Index, and thorough Table of Contents makes finding what I am looking for easy.

My position/view is dispensational,pretribulational and premillennial, for those who share this view there is an interesting variation within this view entitled "The Footsteps of the Messiah" A study of the sequence of Prophetic Events REVISED EDITION written by Dr. Arnold G. Fruchtenbaum. Dr. Fruchtenbaum is founder of Ariel Ministeries (www.ariel.org) and includes in his book 19 charts and diagrams that help to understand how the sequence of prophetic events unfold.

Both books are available at amazon.com or just google title.

Have Fun Searching for answers Jaclyn. Hope this helps with your search!

FOTM-Walt

Jaclyn said...

Can somebody please educate me on this particular position, "President of EU"? Exactly which countries comprise the EU, is the US included now?

I am very uncomfortable with Blair who has a Faith Foundation that seems to want to spread a one world religion, smacks of AoC.

Notice his last statement in the article, Without significant progess in 2009, the peace process in much jeapordy with decisions to be made.

I would appreciate some help understanding this position, Thanks!
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Blair steps up fight to be crowned first 'President of EU'

Brown gives grudging blessing to his old rival's return to new job at centre of the global stage

By Jane Merrick, Political Editor

Sunday, 5 April 2009

Mr President? Another 'no' vote in the Irish referendum, or Angela Merkel's EU ambitions, could still thwart Blair.

Tony Blair has emerged as the leading candidate to become the first permanent president of the European Union after Gordon Brown gave his grudging blessing to the plan. The former prime minister has stepped up his campaign for the job, which he wants to use to build a bridge between Europe and the new Obama administration.

His return to the global stage would be a shock to his critics over the Iraq war and dismay many in Europe.
But The Independent on Sunday has learnt that Mr Brown has accepted that his old rival should be in pole position for the appointment, on the basis that Britain needs to have a key figure in the architecture of the "new world order".


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A senior British official said: "He [Brown] will have to swallow hard to sit down in meetings once again with Blair. But he accepts that there needs to be someone from the UK in the new global architecture. There is no opposition to the plan. Things have moved on, people have moved on."
Other European leaders are also broadly supportive because they want a high-profile figure to represent the 27-nation bloc in the new alliance with the US administration. Mr Blair remains a popular figure in the US.
After initially trying to block Mr Blair as a possible candidate last year, the French President, Nicolas Sarkozy, has thrown his weight behind the former prime minister.
As the eyes of the world were on London's G20 summit last Wednesday, Mr Blair held private talks with the European Commission President José Manuel Barroso in Brussels. The talks focused on his work as Middle East envoy to the quartet of world powers, but it is almost certain that the two men discussed his candidacy. The former premier also visited Sweden last week, where he shared a platform with Bill Clinton at a climate change conference.
The presidency job is dependant on Ireland voting "yes" to the Lisbon Treaty, which creates the position. The Irish referendum will take place in the autumn.
But Mr Blair's plans could still be scuppered if Angela Merkel loses the German general election in September. She is thought to have a strong desire for the job in the event of defeat.
Britain has already thrown its weight behind Mr Barroso to serve a second term as Commission President. His re-appointment would also strengthen the chances of a British name for the new job.
Mr Blair will have spent two years in the Middle East role by July, giving him a legitimate opportunity to claim he has devoted enough time to the job.
But critics will say Mr Blair has failed to make any significant breakthrough. There is also little chance of progress towards the two-state solution under the new hardline Israeli government led by Binyamin Netanyahu.
In a sign that Mr Blair's mind is on an exit from the Middle East, he said in Brussels: "I think the next six months will be completely critical in determining whether this process will move forward or whether it will slip back. I do believe that if there is not significant progress in the year 2009, the peace process will be in very great jeopardy, because there are decisions that have to be taken."

Rich Peterson - Medford said...

Jaclyn,

You ask a good yet loaded question. The EU has been trying to create an office of the presidency to preside over the Council of Ministers for some time now. Today, that presidency is rotational. Every 6 months a member country is seated in that position. The last attempt to create the presidency position failed in 2005 when the French and Dutch rejected the Constitutional Treaty. In classic European style, they put forth the agenda again, this time in the Reform Treaty (known as the Lisbon Treaty). Ireland is the road block this time.

The European Union presently has 27member states but extends its borders through what is known as association and regionalization agreements. The Mediterranean is one very important example. In 2007, several states incorporated themselves into the Union's economic and political framework through what is known as the European Neighborhood Policy. This agreement was confirmed for 7 years and has a mid-term review in mid-2010. If a signatory nation has not met EU political, social, and economic benchmarks, that nation is subject to expulsion.

At the core of the European Union is the Western European Union. The WEU is the 10 nation military branch of the EU and without them today's European Union would not exist. The Western European Union and the Council of Ministeres are the holders of the power. The Commission has some power while the Parliament has none other than being a rubber stamp.

Even should the EU realize a Presidency position, it will be a figure head position. The real power is in the area that controls Common Foreign Security Policy.

Rich

Anonymous said...

Yeah - tgat is from "the mesaage" - I would rather not get into that discussion - but I personally would not use and do not trust "the message" - but that is me.
Early masonic bibles - check the pictograms on first few pages - yuo would see the as above so below symbolsim -

DouginMI

DavidinB.C. said...

I totally dislike the "Message." There are many people who think it is the greatest interpretation. As you can see from its version of the Lord's Prayer, it is a total distortion of the Word of God. Why does it use language similar to the Freemasons? I appreciate the "Message" as much as I appreciate a spring snow storm.

paul said...

"As above, so below" is also witchcraft speak

There are a lot of similarities between Freemasonry and sorcery and/or witchcraft.

Anonymous said...

To DavidinB.C.

I agree with your response to the Message. It is very NA.

Thanks.

Dave in CA

Setterman said...

Obama wants, at this time, a global regime.
http://news.aol.com/world

Jaclyn said...

Thanks Rich! That helps to tie everything together. I also had some confusion about the Lisbon Treaty.

So it is my understanding that the Lisbon Treaty creates the office of the President of Europe, which will still be secondary to that held by the High Representative, Solana.

If I'm still confused, clarifications are welcome :-)

Anonymous said...

Constance, thanks for the point on fear.
----
When the message first came out, I appreciated some of the language, but I was blind to what the twists were. Now I just shake my head.

Anonymous said...

Hello everyone,
On the latest issue of Benjamin Creme's Share International Magazine I found something very disturbing. There is a picture of the appearance of "Maitreya" in Irak. According to Creme's Master (Maitreya) this picture is real and it is him on the picture. What is more disturbing is that there is a video on youtube where you can see this figure of light dancing in a ceremony where the picture they talked about in the magazine was taken.

Here are the sources:

http://www.shareintl.org/magazine/old_issues/2009/2009-04.htm

Video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNq_gJFjOyA&feature=related

Anonymous said...

Discovery Channel is airing a new show on Jesus called "The Mission"
Part 2 of 3

"He now preached one stunning and totally new message: that to be poor was good."...scripture quote...

It goes on with stuff that sounds frighteninly like Benjamin Creme. It's full of twists and slight of mouth.

"Overturning the old order was to be accomplished with a nonviolent revolution: love."

"Jesus is one amongst several, no, not unique." This from a Baptist Seminary guy.

And Honi the circle maker one of the greatest miracle workers of the time...

They are really perverting scripture here.

Anonymous said...

I know this is way off topic, but for the Christians on this blog you might find this encouraging:

http://sojournerministries.com/cmz/

It's a video called the "Unleavened Messiah, A Portrait of Christ in the Passover"

Since Passover and our Lord's Resurrection are to be celebrated this week, I thought you might enoy this.

Blessings,

Deannie

joyce said...

Doug in MI,
I've recommended a movie before called the Rape of Europa:

http://www.propheticvision.org.uk/

This fellow shows how elements of Babylon ended up in EU, and the prophetic implications. For example, prior to Hitler, the Gates of Hell from Nebuchadnezzer were brought to Berlin ( as well as the temple of Pergamum). When we look at Dan 2 there are elements of all the kingdoms in EU. EU is filled with elements of Ancient Greece.

God's kingdom will destroy the feet made of clay and iron but then it will destroy the rest of the kingdom too. If we analyze these kingdoms and their relationship to Israel, we can see how each kingdom stood against Israel. If we think historically and prophetically, this last kingdom will do the same, except much worse.

God will enter into the nations based on what they have done to His people ( Joel 3:2-3

Joyce

joyce said...

Apropos to the article on TM, Lynch says Israel needs this:

http://tiny.cc/29784

Yes, exactly what Israel needs, to go the way of the nations and worship there gods. Seems like we were warned against this somewhere.

Joyce

Anonymous said...

Understood Joyce,
I was watching Obama at the NATO conference - kept hearing - lokk the star of babylon (NATO symbol) The tablet came to mind - went and took a look and I had not paid any attention to the inscription - until the day I posted. It just seemed to fit into what I was hearing.

DouginMI

Constance Cumbey said...

If Eugene Peterson's THE MESSAGE is not New Age, I'll eat it publicly with any condiment you choose!

" . . . As above, so below . . ." So very Crowleyesque!

Constance

DavidinB.C. said...

Javier Solana seems to be quite pleased with Obama's international performances. Can we create a new world order? Yes we can.

http://tinyurl.com/c6jj5h

paul said...

Crowley yes. And Levay, and,
the priests in the temple doing
ungody things and putting up
shrines to the gods of the earth
and doing sorcery and witchcraft.
The Old Testament is not too old at all.
Every one of the Prophets condem the
paganism of this world. Only the names have changed. In some cases the names haven't even changed.

But meanwhile the Messiah has come.
The kingdom of heaven is on earth since
John the baptist declared it.
Hallelujah !
MEMO: This year, if I'm not wrong, (50/50 chance)
The calender is configured the way it was during the year of the Crucifixion and Resurrection of Christ.
The Passover is on a Thursday, the Unleavened Bread is of course immedietely following it.
It was on the first day of the week, (Sunday) early in the morning when Mary Magdaline came to the tomb and saw him and he spoke with her.
There were three days and three nights that Jesus was in the tomb, just like Jonah.
He was a man well aquainted with sorrows.

Exodus 12, Leviticus23 and Lev.25, and Numbers 29 show that:

1 Jesus is the Passover Lamb
2 Jesus is the Unleavened Bread
3 Jesus is the Firstfruits of a new creation
4 Jesus is the Pentacost, or Feast of Weeks

5 Jesus is the Trumpet sound to call us together
6 Jesus is the Atonement for our sins
7 Jesus is the Tabernacle. God is with us.
You might say Jesus is the place where life begins and never ends.

"..every year by an ordinance, for ever."

SV said...

Very Lovely, Paul.
Thanks for posting this.

By His Grace,
-SV

Shem1777 said...

Here is a link to a very NA site with "as above so below" type spiritual nonsense.

http://www.akasha.de/~aton/HOR.html