Tuesday, February 24, 2009

Javier Solana will be in Middle East for balance of month - February 2009

While the USA is in financial turmoil (and maybe the rest of the world at well) Javier Solana is engaged in interesting Middle East activity. He will spend February 24 through 28th in the Middle East. It will be interesting to see how it plays out. Quoting from his press release, we read:

Javier SOLANA, EU High Representative for the Common Foreign and Security Policy (CFSP), istravelling to the Middle East from Tuesday, 24 February to Saturday, 28 February 2009. Mr. Solana is travelling to Syria, Lebanon, Egypt, Israel and the Palestinian Territories, a few days before participating in the international conference in support of the Palestinian economy, for the reconstruction of Gaza, to be held in Sharm El-Sheikh on 2 March 2009. In Syria, on Tuesday, 24 and Wednesday, 25 February, the High Representative will meet President Bashar Al-Assad, Deputy Prime Minister Abdallah Al-Dardari and Foreign Minister Walid Al-Mouallem. In Lebanon, on Wednesday, 25 February, Mr Solana will meet President Michel Sleiman, Parliament Speaker, Nabih Berri, Prime Minister Fouad Siniora and Foreign Minister Fawzi Salloukh. In Egypt, on Wednesday, 25 and Thursday, 26 February, the High Representative will have meetings with President Hosni Mubarak and Foreign Minister Ahmed Abul Gheit. In Israel, on Thursday, 26 February, Mr Solana will meet Prime Minister Ehud Olmert, Likud Chairman Benjamin Netanyahu, who has been tasked to form the new government, Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni and Defence Minister Ehud Barak. In the Palestinian Territories, on Friday, 27 and Saturday 28, February, Mr Solana will meet the President of the Palestinian National Authority, Mahmoud Abbas,
Prime Minister Salam Fayyad, the Palestinian Chief negotiator, Saeb Erekat, and US Special Envoy to the Middle East, George Mitchell. The High Representative also plans to travel to Gaza, where he will meet theU9RWA General Commissioner, Karen Abu Ziyad, the U9RWA Director of Operations, John Ging, and members of the civil society and the banking sector.

Well, it looks like a most busy itinerary for Dr. Solana. It will be interesting to see what comes of it. I wonder what Peter Lorie, the decidedly New Age author of "World's End: 2009", might have to say about these Middle East developments. I wonder how all of this will play in the global governance scenarios. I wonder what Peter LeMesurier, author of THE ARMAGEDDON SCRIPT might have to say.

We certainly are living in interesting times. Stay tuned!

Constance

90 comments:

Unknown said...

I posted the following information on the previous thread just prior to Constance's new post. I am repeating it here because it contains so much useful information.

Superb article from Carl Teichrib at Berit Kjos' site regarding the major players in US government and their associations.

http://tiny.cc/J6Uo8 Or

http://crossroad.to/articles2/forcing-change/09/leadership-reviewl.htm

Anonymous said...

Yes YesNa, thanks for the re-post...good info. My oh my, what a perfect storm we have brewing!

I was just musing about the fact that there sure are a lot of "coincidences" today...

Feb. 24, 2009:

Solana embarking on an epic "peace making" trip to the middle east....

Obama lecturing America and the world this very night....

...and in the sky, Comet Lulin is at closest earth approach....possibly getting ready for a spectacular show over the next 24 hours as it lines up "in near perfect opposition"....and doing so during a new moon no less...

....all this while Maitreya is supposedly getting ready to make an appearance, perhaps as early as next week....

(Question: If Lulin fizzles, will Maitreya postpone his/her/it's appearance yet again?)

Here's what spaceweather.com has to say about Lulin's possible display...

"The next 24 hours could be an interesting time for Comet Lulin. The comet is going to line up almost perfectly with the Sun and Earth as follows: Sun-Earth-Lulin. This could make the dust in the comet's tail briefly but significantly increase in brightness--a phenomenon astronomers call "the opposition effect." So don't stop watching; the best may be yet to come."

http://www.spaceweather.com/

Funny, I was just reading..

"And there will be signs in the sun, in the moon, and in the stars; and on the earth distress of nations, with perplexity, the sea and the waves roaring...."

"....Now when these things begin to happen, look up and lift up your heads, because your redemption draws near."

Sounds like good news to me.

Anonymous said...

It seems like all the players are taking their positions. Hostilities around the world seem to be growing towards Israel, the UN just announced that Iran has enough materials to make a nuclear bomb, they need about 3 months to complete. Iran was quick to publish that Russia is a strong military friend in the region.
Economies around the world are collapsing, there is much talk about global government by various leaders, no doubt they are conditioning the public to accept their "solutions". Meanwhile people across the world are waking up and they are mad! The "R" word, revolution is becoming a frequent mantra. This means very simply, what "they" do, "they" must do QUICKLY...the birth pangs are becoming more frequent, let us watch and PRAY!

Anonymous said...

Top story on today's Drudge Report (02/24/09)

MURDOCH WARNS: NATIONS WILL BE REDEFINED, FUTURES ALTERED

Media baron Rupert Murdoch issued an urgent internal communication late Monday, warning his staff: "We are in the midst of a phase of history in which nations will be redefined and their futures fundamentally altered."

The dramatic call comes as markets continue their plunge and the future of media becomes increasingly muddled.

"Many people will be under extreme pressure and many companies mortally wounded," Murdoch declared.

"Our competitors will be sorely tempted to take the easy beat, to reduce quality in the search for immediate dividends."

He continued: "Let me be very clear about our company: where others might step back from their commitment to their viewers, their users, readers and customers – we will renew ours.

"The direction of the business now and over the next few years will define the character of our company for decades."

Developing...

Anonymous said...

Latest companies reporting losses:

Target - 41%

Macy's - 59%

Office Depot - $1.5 BILLION

Constance Cumbey said...

Here is a very telling video you can watch on "Citizens for Global Solutions". It appears to me that idealistic, relatively young people who have little or no scriptural knowlege, combined with confederates in Sojourners and "Emergent Christians" and "Christian Environmentalists" will be part of this network as well as those biblically illiterate. It is looking to me as though there is much more momentum on their side than before. Donald Keys once headed World Federalists. I wonder where he is now. This is his dream and even his rhetoric obviously come into play. They appear confident to me that the Obama/Biden administration will give them all they want. Javier Solana is undoubtedly elated about them!

Constance

Constance Cumbey said...

http://www.globalsolutions.org/issues/video_un_plaza_treaties_future

Constance Cumbey said...

http://tinyurl.com/angl4z

Constance Cumbey said...

Pay particular attention to comments on that video about Senator Lugar from Indiana. The Solana / Internationalist fan club clearly crosses party lines.

Constance

Anonymous said...

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The United States plans to pledge more than $900 million (621 million pounds) to help rebuild Gaza after Israel's invasion and strengthen the Western-backed Palestinian Authority, a U.S. official said on Monday.

U.S. plans $900 million pledge for Gaza
The money will be channelled through U.N. and other bodies and will not be distributed via the militant group Hamas, which rules Gaza, said the official, who spoke on condition of anonymity as U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton plans to make the announcement next week at a Gaza donors conference in Egypt.

(Reporting by Sue Pleming)

Bleedin Red White and Blue Baby! said...

The times are interesting indeed.
I made a post on previous thread about media corporations coming together to push a global network. Murdoch seems to be expecting to capitalize on this shift.

Solana is heading to the Union for the Med, and the odds of his success are slim at best with Israel in the midst of a transition. However, I would not count old Javier out, as these type of situations are where he seems to excel.

I agree with Jacklyn's statement that the players have taken their positions and intend to move swiftly.

Anonymous said...

From Infowars (February 24, 2009):

CFR member, Rockefeller deputy attends White House bank meeting

“The incoming chairman of Citigroup, Richard Parsons, showed up at the White House Monday, fueling talk that the federal government might take a massive ownership stake in the troubled banking behemoth,” reports Politico. “Parsons’ appointment was to see Valerie Jarrett, one of President Barack Obama’s closest West Wing confidants.”

According to the corporate media, the government plans to grab 40 percent ownership in Citigroup, a move that is widely explained as “nationalization” of the banks.

“Nationalizing ailing banks means the government would tell bank execs to take a hike, and then oversee taxpayer dollars as they course through the banking sector’s veins,” writes Thomas Kelley for Yahoo News. “When all is well, perhaps after selling assets and operations to new private investors, the government then steps back and lets a newly regulated bank sector float on its way.”

In fact, “nationalization” has nothing to do with telling the banksters to “take a hike” and it certainly has nothing to do with regulation. Bank nationalization is a code word for a banker scheme to “socialize” the insolvency of selected banks, i.e., this insolvency will be transferred to the tax payers.

Richard Parsons is a close Rockefeller deputy. He is chairman emeritus of the Partnership for New York City, established by David Rockefeller in 1979, and also serves as an advisory trustee of the family’s principal “philanthropy,” the Rockefeller Brothers Fund. In addition, Parsons sits with David Rockefeller on the board of the World Trade Center Memorial Foundation.

From the early 1980s through the 1990s, Parsons owned a house at Rockefeller family estate in Pocantico Hills. His grandfather was once a groundskeeper for the Rockefellers. Mr. Parsons was groomed to serve the banksters from early in his career, same as fellow African-American Barack Obama.

In addition, Parson is a member of the CFR. John D. Rockefeller, along with other members of the international banking elite — including J.P. Morgan, Paul Warburg, Otto Kahn, and Jacob Schiff — founded the Council on Foreign Relations in New York on July 29, 1921. Rockefeller and this rogue’s gallery also engineered the Federal Reserve System. Professor Carroll Quigley characterized the CFR as “…a front group for J.P. Morgan and Company.”

Anonymous said...

We all like to look at recent events and refer to them as birth pangs. As a mother, I started to think about the birthing process. Contractions start out spaced apart. When they are no longer spaced apart, it is time for the delivery. At what point do we say that these signs are no longer birth pangs? I think we are well in the thick of things! I appreciate Old Man of the Ski's post. What an encouragement!

"Now when these things begin to happen, look up, and lift up your heads, because your redemption draws near."

This sounds like good news to me too!

Anonymous said...

Birth Pangs are a term used by Jesus to describe all that leads up to full blown tribulation...He specifically said that nation will rise against nation, there will be famines and earthquakes in various places, all these are but the beginning of the birth pangs, they are starting and continue to increase, we need to brace ourselves, much suffering may lie ahead but His grace will always be sufficient.

Constance Cumbey said...

I have just updated the last article on the interconnected global "Internet of Things." The additions are at the front of that article and are taken from a brand new IBM report to executives just released today.

Constance

Constance Cumbey said...

I am suspecting that the whole system might be developed and they are waiting for the opportune moment to fully spring it on us. "Like a snare will it come upon all who dwell upon the face of the earth . . ."

Constance

Constance Cumbey said...

"Robert W. Moffat, Jr. is senior vice president and group executive, IBM Systems and Technology Group. Named to this position in July 2008, Mr. Moffat is responsible for all IBM hardware offerings as well as the microelectronics division, which translates IBM research and development into semiconductor solutions for IBM systems and OEM clients. In addition, the company’s integrated supply chain operations, which include global manufacturing, procurement and customer fulfillment, report to him.

Mr. Moffat was senior vice president, Integrated Operations. In this cross-functional role created in July 2005, he led an initiative to transform and integrate the company’s supply chain and service delivery operations globally, leveraging new business process designs and advanced technology to achieve greater levels of efficiency while improving IBM's market responsiveness.

Prior to that, Mr. Moffat was senior vice president and group executive of IBM's Personal and Printing Systems Group, where he was responsible for worldwide sales, development, manufacturing and marketing of Personal Computers, Printing Systems and Retail Store Solutions. Before that, he was vice president, finance and planning for the Enterprise Systems Group.

Mr. Moffat has held a number of executive positions at IBM, including general manager of manufacturing, fulfillment and procurement initiatives for the PC business. He led the team that pioneered the Advanced Fulfillment Initiative, and channel collaboration initiatives, which were awarded the 1999 Franz Edelman Award, the highest recognition for achievement in operational research and management sciences, and supply chain management.

His other positions at IBM, since joining in 1978, included assistant general manager, finance, planning, and business support for the IBM PC Company in Europe, and vice president of finance and planning.

Mr. Moffat is a member of the IBM Performance Team and the IBM Corporate Operations Team. He serves as a member of the Board of Trustees for The Manufacturing Institute, an educational and research affiliate of the National Association of Manufacturers. He is also a non-voting observer on the Board of Directors of Lenovo Group Limited.

"Mr. Moffat is a graduate of Union College in Schenectady, New York, with a B.S. degree in Economics. He also holds an MBA in Management Information Systems from Iona College in New Rochelle, New York.

Bleedin Red White and Blue Baby! said...

Since we are on the topic of "The System" we all know is around the corner. I found this via Statewatch.

Drafting Group for updating of Schengen catalogue on External borders control,
Return and readmission

It is a very in depth look at how border management is to be operated within the context of the system. Some of the strikingly obvious implementations that caught my eye were how people found in violation were to be handled. The more blatant includes,

Persons refused entry being placed in
specially designated facilities (which are
intended only for them) should be kept under
permanent supervision using technical or
personal means. Facilities for such persons
must fulfil both security and social
conditions.

46. At BCPs with extensive traffic second line
office with following equipment is required:

IPI (invisible personal information) decoder.

http://tinyurl.com/aagaug

Anonymous said...

When you hear that prez guy talk tonight, remember how very, very slim his bio is. He has no credentials to speak of. Compare that bio with this one of Zoellick who now heads the World Bank.
http://tinyurl.com/aufzwj

Find a sock, put your hand it and use it as a puppet. Then you will have a better idea of what is going on.

Anonymous said...

Find a sock, put your hand it and use it as a puppet. Then you will have a better idea of what is going on.

7:01 PM



Its all very clear to me now
:-)

Anonymous said...

He brings down the fire from the skies......You can tell He's doing well by the look in human eyes......better not compromise...it won't be easy.Something tells me i'd better activate my prayer capsule/ This is tony in vermont wishing you all Godspeed as things are speeding up along the exponential curve.Our Father will not let us down-and He will not be mocked-glad to be on His side

Anonymous said...

Obama talking...blah blah blah...look for those teleprompters. Watch his head bob from left to right to left.

Anonymous said...

Let's give credit where credit is due. I watched the Obama speech -- it didn't look that bad to me! The talking head thing doesn't square with my personal observation.

Anonymous said...

A blog entry at Slice of Laodicea:


"I spoke with the London headquarters of Benjamin Creme’s Share International organization. The woman I spoke with was friendly and helpful and told me that the emergence of “Maitreya”, the world teacher and christ figure, was so, so close. A star is going to appear shortly, they say, that will shine night and day. It will herald the appearance of this world teacher on national television in the U.S. (He will not reveal himself by the name “Maitreya”, however.)

After a short interview with a member of China Aid, who will fill in details regarding the collusion of the TSPM church in China with the government in the persecution of believers there, I will play clips from several recent commercials that have aired in the US regarding the emergence of this anti-Christ figure. The woman on the line in London this morning told me that this will be the most exciting thing ever to happen in the history of the world. She told me she, like everyone else there in the office in London, is a volunteer. They are that committed to this anti-Christ figure’s coming.

My response today is to worship the one true Christ, the living Son of God, who sits at the Father’s right hand, interceding for us. All praise and all glory today to Jesus Christ, at whose name every knee will bow and every tongue will confess that He is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. Amen.

You can hear the Crosstalk Show live at 2pm Central time or listen to the archive later."

Anonymous said...

Mary, “U.S. plans $900 million pledge for Gaza.”
Worldview: The U.S. long ago stopped seeing individual’s money as their own; all you have, all you are belongs to the STATE, and that is how they can take what is yours and your grandchildren,and give it to people who give candy and rejoice when 9/11 happens, or gives billions to the black panther types, and by reason of extension, all belongs to the UN.
Mary, the link below is a famous photograph which expresses how I feel for the great country we have lost!
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://libraryautomation.com/nymas/france1940banner4w450.jpg&imgrefurl=http://libraryautomation.com/nymas/france1940gordon.html&usg=__u1OjSEgvmfm94eWPlcdo9D8HHmU=&h=361&w=450&sz=45&hl=en&start=8&tbnid=aKGXq8hM6njcPM:&tbnh=102&tbnw=127&prev=/images%3Fq%3DParis,%2BFrance1940%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG%26ie%3DUTF-8

http://tinyurl.com/bw5j3m

Constance Cumbey said...

Morning, just came from court and stopped for late breakfast/early lunch, not sure which. On my netbook. I added what I consider startling material to the previous article and I'm wondering if anybody has seen it and what their reaction, if any is?

Constance

Unknown said...

Constance,

I was with a friend on Sat. that I don't talk to very often. She is in R&D for packaging of pharmaceuticals. She actually designs packaging. Last year she left a very large leading pharm. company (with individual product lines that number in the multimillions in inventory and in the multibillions in revenues). So I asked her if she designed packaging with microchiping. She told me that RFID was used mostly for internal inventory control and that it was not perfected. The system had a lot of problems with interference.

She didn't deny that it was currently being developed, but apparently was not yet fully operational. That was only 1 year ago.

But we know that the technologies are being used in Europe and Asia. No doubt, we are on the cusp--just tweaking, getting the bugs out.

Anonymous said...

here is an article that repots the further linking of RFID/GPS/Satellites
Informative -

http://www.rfidjournal.com/article/view/4635
DouginMI

Anonymous said...

Recently posted You Tube video...

"They are misleading you"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyeZoQg76T4

Anonymous said...

Hooray
http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/aclj-gets-resounding-first-amendment/story.aspx?guid={DDD8D711-6188-4839-A4C4-7E12E5C99789}&dist=msr_1
http://tinyurl.com/cxhnqe

WASHINGTON, Feb 25, 2009 (BUSINESS WIRE) -- In a unanimous decision, the Supreme Court of the United States today issued a landmark First Amendment ruling clearing the way for governments to accept permanent monuments of its choosing in public parks. The decision comes in the case of Pleasant Grove City v. Summum, a critical First Amendment case in which the American Center for Law and Justice (ACLJ) represented the Utah city in a challenge to a display of the Ten Commandments in a city park. continued

Anonymous said...

Is Constance Cumbey Catholic? I just heard about her books and the New Age Movement recently.
Thank You,
Iowa

Anonymous said...

Is Constance Cumbey Catholic? I just heard about her books and the New Age Movement recently.
Thank You,
Iowa

WOULD IT MATTER?
just wondering

Anonymous said...

oldmanoftheski,
that is actually a decent you tube find -

DouginMi

Anonymous said...

http://www.scribd.com/doc/12548638/Warning-Against-Adverse-Health-Effects-From-the-Operation-of-Digital-Broadcast

Just FYI

Anonymous said...

The accumulated posts on this thread are impressive, showing a gathering storm reaching a possibly critical point. Everything points this way...I was especially impressed with the material on Parsons, the Rockefeller Rep., who called on the West Wing. And the concept that nationializing of banks won't mean the bankers are cut out of power en masse, just that insolvent banks will now be paid for by taxpayers. I am glad to see everyone,or almost everyone, relating this to the Biblical admonition, "When you see all these things, look up, for your redemption draweth nigh!"

Horrifying and yet hopeful in that we can see the gathering storm clearly now.

Mariel

Rudi said...

There is a "virtual" library of information at the IBM United States website. Too much to study in depth in just one sitting. Explore the following link when you have time. There are many interactive features covering "unique perspectives on how to change the way the world works" in the areas of industry, business, technology, society and smarter planet. One I found particularly interesting is titled.

"Fighting crime in bits and bytes"

"A crime rarely occurs in isolation. Analytics can help you piece together a thousand pieces of data to see the whole picture.

http://tinyurl.com/b2es32

http://www.ibm.com/ibm/ideasfromibm/us/lawenforcement/052107/index.shtml

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In spite of overwhelming documentation to the contrary,
along with innumerable warnings being sounded by credible researchers, authors and trusted news sources, many who evaluate the current trends will continue to roll their eyes and adjust their rose-tinted glasses, refusing to acknowledge the very real possibility of where this technology may, in all likelihood,
be headed. If you are one of those who still chooses to believe that only international terrorists and drug dealers are the only "enemies of the state" that this
"entity analytics",
"smart surveillance" and
"global name recognition" technology has been designed and developed to target, it might be wise to reconsider and be prepared
for another scenerio. -Rudi

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IBM "Library"

http://tinyurl.com/27tszu

http://www.ibm.com/ibm/
ideasfromibm/us/library/
index.shtml
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IBM U.S. Home
http://www.ibm.com/us/en/

Anonymous said...

Dear OldManOfTheSki,
Thanks for sharing that video.

By His Grace,
-SV

Anonymous said...

Does anyone here know if Constance Cumbey is Catholic or not? Is her book from a Catholic perspective? I just heard her give a talk over the radio.
Iowa mom

Anonymous said...

Iowa mom

Constance's data is very accurate for any denomination. She just exposes the truth about the New Age movement and there one world order. She is amazing I highly advise listen to what she has to say regardless to denomination. People from many different denomination utilize her data and find it very helpful.

Anonymous said...

Did you guys know that Mormons are against the New world order and the new age movement? Kind of interesting.

Bleedin Red White and Blue Baby! said...

This set of video should go nicely with the one Oldman posted. It is a 17 part series regarding the New Age. I have posted it before, but for those who haven't seen, many thanks to Oldman for reminding me about it. (even if inadvertantly)

It gives a ton of valuable info, in a pretty entertaining forum. It covers everything from Blavatsky to evolution, to modern politics. I haven't had the time to research all of the quotes within, but much of it I can attest to, as I am sure Constance would as well.

http://tinyurl.com/bbgovv

Rudi said...

Hi Oldmanoftheski,
Good find on the video.
Hmmm… the Zeitgeist connection again…Lucifer…Blavatsky…
Lucifer…Theosophy…Lucifer…
Bailey…Lucifer…Masonry…
Lucifer…Crème… Lucifer…The Lucis Trust…Lucifer…The U.N….Lucifer… Someone is definitely working overtime to reveal and bring forward the formerly hidden (occult) teachings as mainstream spirituality.
Did you happen to look at the comments following the video? The first commenter (scottthrees)
Makes an attempt to discredit the video by saying … “Jordon Maxwell is not heard in part one at all.” Technically, if the commenter wants to split hairs, Maxwell wasn’t the EXCLUSIVE narrative voice heard in Part One of Zeitgeist The Movie. According to Maxwell’s website, his research was a primary inspiration for the film and much of the film was based on his work, although he wasn’t involved in the production of it or the sequel. The actual website for Zeitgeist the Movie credits audio from Jordon Maxwell’s “Inner World of the Occult” and “The Light of the World”. I thought the video was
very good and gives some amazing leads for additional information. Thanks Oldman! - Rudi

http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/sources.htm

http://www.jordanmaxwell.com/index.html
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“Who is a liar but he that denies that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denies the Father and the Son.” 1John 2:22

“For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;” 1 Timothy 2: 5

Constance Cumbey said...

Dear Doug,

Thanks! I pulled down the article. I personally think they are much further along with this than the pharmaceutical employee seems to think. They will NEVER have it perfected. The prophecy regarding "the mark" is that those who take it will break out in horrible sores all over their body -- they will long for death, but death will not come.
Interestingly, the chip they have pressured us to implant our pets with (we have not) has been demonstrated to be carcinogenic. I believe the system is going to be imposed upon us as a form of crisis management -- to "rationally control" distribution lines.

Constance

Constance Cumbey said...

This is Constance. I am comfortable wherever Jesus Christ is not denied -- I have spoken to many denominations with many quirks. I believe the whole thing comes down to who loves God and is trying to please him. The scriptural criteria for who was taken in and who was not was THE LOVE OF THE TRUTH. It was not PERFECT TRUTH -- those who had the love of the truth had their eyes opened and did not fall for the ultimate lie -- the others did.

Constance

Constance Cumbey said...

Further, my scriptural authority is 2nd Thessalonians chapter 2, inter alia.

Constance

Constance Cumbey said...

Where is Susanna lately -- where is Joyce? Haven't seen either of them on this discussion.

Constance

Anonymous said...

I know Mormons and was in Salt Lake City several years ago. I talked with the librarian and some staff and they acted as if they knew nothing about the New Age movement. My son also has Mormon friends and they know nothing. It must be something new with them.

The Mormons have good family values. However, I was very surprised to learn that who they consider Jesus is,is not what Christians believe. That's going to be a real hurdle if they are to understand what the New Age movement is about.

Anonymous said...

The Mormons have good family values. However, I was very surprised to learn that who they consider Jesus is,is not what Christians believe. That's going to be a real hurdle if they are to understand what the New Age movement is about.
...................................

I have met agnostics and atheists, who are aware of the occult nature of the NWO. Sometimes no religion can be better than another Gospel. We need to find a way to engage the skeptics out there, who are not taken in by the New Age, without making it seem like we're doing it just because we trying to push an end-times theory.

Savvy

Anonymous said...

Constance,
I've been busy traveling and busy in general, but I'm in the Feb 14 discussion still. Trying to clarify some of the confusion about our identity in Yeshua and what exactly it means to be "born-again". This is such a foundational teaching that will help people to survive the deception coming on the earth. To know that we have already been bought and paid for in full. I will repost what I said here in hopes in might help some who are struggling with these ideas.


In Yeshua, we have the righteousness of Messiah. This is not to say we don't sin, but it is to say that being born again restores us to the position of being "in Him" which is actually where we were planted in the beginning. Better translation of Gen 2 is.

Gen. 2:8 The LORD God planted a garden toward the east, in Eden; and there He placed the man whom He had formed.

God planted a garden in delight from before the first. ( the word eden in Hebrew actually means delight but the translators made it a place and this form of the word east ( qedem) means from before the first.( 2. temp., ancient time, aforetime:)

If it was planted in delight before the first, it means that it was in Him. What Yeshua restores is just that. We are in Him and He is in us. We have the righteousness of Yeshua. WE are seated in the heavenlies.

Just as we were planted in delight, we are restored to our original position as we await the restoration of all things. Right now we are still living in a fallen world, but walking in the spiritual reality of what has been accomplished for us through the death and resurrection of Yeshua.

This does not mean that we always obey God. Missing the mark, the definition of sin does not change who we are or where we are seated. The process of sanctification is done from a position of security where we come into agreement with what God says in His Word. The gospel is preached in Genesis.

If we have to "do something" to be justified then Yeshua's work is in vain. He said "it is finished" meaning that He reversed the effects of the fall when He was here on planet Earth gave His life so that He would take the penalty of death that we deserved.

Because we are the righteousness of Yeshua, of course we want to agree with what the Scriptures say.

Rom. 12:2 And do not abe conformed to bthis world, but be transformed by the crenewing of your mind, so that you may prove what the will of God is, that which is good and acceptable and perfect.


2Cor. 10:5 We are destroying speculations and every alofty thing raised up against the knowledge of God, and we are taking every thought captive to the obedience of Christ,

It is critical to know that we already are the righteousness of Messiah in our new identity.

2Cor. 5:17 Therefore if anyone is in Christ, 1he is a new creature; the old things passed away; behold, new things have come.

I died and was buried with Yeshua and am raised up in newness of life, His life.

Gal. 2:20 “I have been crucified with Christ; and it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me; and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who dloved me and egave Himself up for me.

If we don't understand that we died and are now new creations, we will not understand what happened when Yeshua died and we accepted His substitutionary atonement for our sins.

Should we sin now that we have be bought with the price of Yeshua's blood? Heavens no!

1Cor. 6:20 For you have been bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body.

We were slaves to sin, just like Ancient Israel were slaves in Egypt, but when Messiah, our Passover Lamb was slain ( which He already was from the foundation of the world since God is outside of time) we were set free from the wages of our sin, which are death..

We are now seated in the heavenly realms, while being here on earth at the same time, but since we are already in the throne room our behavior should match the righteousness we already are. This process takes place by the renewing of our mind as we read the Word and God puts it on our heart.

Teshuvah, the hebrew word for repentance means coming into agreement with what God says sin is and turning away from our previous sins. Confessing is nothing more than agreeing with God's Word about what He already says. We do not lose our salvation and have to earn it back when we sin, but we might not be walking in communion, hearing from our Father because we are not lining up with His Word. Our minds need to be circumcised.. i.e. the layer of flesh must be removed. Our mind must be washed with the Living Water of the Word.

or....
John 17:19-24 “For their sakes I sanctify Myself, that they themselves also may be sanctified in truth “I do not ask on behalf of these alone, but for those also who believe in Me through their word; that they may all be one; even as You, Father, are in Me and I in You, that they also may be in Us, so that the world may believe that You sent Me. “The glory which You have given Me I have given to them, that they may be one, just as We are one;I in them and You in Me, that they may be perfected 1in unity, so that the world may 2know that bYou sent Me, and loved them, even as You have loved Me.“Father, I desire that athey also, whom You have given Me, bbe with Me where I am, so that they may see My glory which You have given Me, for You loved Me before the foundation of the world.

We are in Him and He is in us:

2Cor. 6:16 Or what agreement has the temple of God with idols? For we are bthe temple of cthe living God; just as God said,
“I WILL DWELL IN THEM AND WALK AMONG THEM; AND I WILL BE THEIR GOD, AND THEY SHALL BE MY PEOPLE.

Ha maqom, "the place" was an expression in ancient times that was understood as God's name. God is a place and in Yeshua we dwell "in Him" This is the actually meaning of the Words. If we are already "in Him" our prayer life and everything we do will be coming from a place of lining up with His Word. We are already before the throne, but when we are in the presence of the King we are going to come in agreement with Him about sin about His will, etc.

Believers should have this security of knowing who they are when they accept Yeshua's payment for sin. As new creatures, we will want to sit under hearing and know God's voice. His sheep will hear His voice and walk in obedience to Him.



Joyce

1:01 AM

Anonymous said...

One more thing, there is a river of living water flowing from the throne of God, When God separated the waters above from the waters below in Genesis one, He was showing us the pattern. His creation would be a reflection of what was in the heavens. The tabernacle was a reflection of the throne room. We are made in His image, and Yeshua is all of the fullness of deity in bodily form.

If we can see the source of the river which is God Himself, then we can be washed with the Living Water and out of us will flow living water:

John 7:38 “He who believes in Me, as the Scripture said, ‘From this innermost being will flow rivers of living water.’”


Psa. 1:3 He will be like a tree firmly planted by streams of water, Which yields its fruit in its season
And its leaf does not wither;
And 3in whatever he does, bhe prospers.

2Pet. 3:5 For 1when they maintain this, it escapes their notice that by the word of God the heavens existed long ago and the earth was formed out of water and by water,

The water that flows from the throne of God Himself is the source of life.. it is the living water.


Look what Yeshua says to the woman at the well speaking of Himself:

John 4:13-14 Jesus answered and said to her, “Everyone who drinks of this water will thirst again; but whoever drinks of the water that I will give him shall never thirst; but the water that I will give him will become in him a well of water springing up to eternal life.”

There is a New Age distortion of "as above so below", but God did create the earth to be a reflection of what was in the heavens:

Gen. 1:7 God made the expanse, and separated athe waters which were below the 1expanse from the waters bwhich were above the 1expanse; and it was so.

Yeshua is the fulness of deity in bodily form. We are created in God's image.

Yeshua came preaching about the kingdom and look what He says:

Matt. 6:10 ‘Your kingdom come.
Your will be done,
On earth as it is in heaven.

May it be here as it is in heaven, may we conform to God's will. His creation was corrupted, but in Yeshua He wants to restore us to delight. If we understand what His will is, then we can allow Messiah in us to reflect His truth and from us can flow living water...

We cannot earn this or work for it. We must just be rested in delight, in Him.

We have lost a lot of what Scripture said through some of our translations and not wanting to go back to the hebraic roots. I am grateful to dear friends who have knowledge of the Hebrew and have clarified these passages so we can really see what's going on in Genesis. Without the knowledge of the Hebrew grammar, and the prior understanding of these verses from long ago, we don't understand that God planted one garden in Himself and then one below that reflect what was in Him. God does not want us to experience separation, but that's what the fall did.

He is restoring us to a place where there is no separation, but right now we can walk in the spiritual reality of that. If you can see this picture, then no matter what comes your way, you will understand who you are and not be shaken. Since you are already at the throne, you will hear His voice.

Eph. 2:4-6 But God, being arich in mercy, because of His great love with which He loved us, even when we were dead in our transgressions, made us alive together 2with Christ (by grace you have been saved), and araised us up with Him, and seated us with Him in the heavenly places in dChrist Jesus,

We are already seated with Him in the heavenly realms according to Paul. Being "in Him" means that this is a spiritual reality now, not later, but yet we still walk in our earthly bodies in a fallen world which is why our hearts cry out when we see evil.

One day, sin and death will be swallowed up:

ezek. 47:9-14 “It will come about that every living creature which swarms in every place where the river goes, will live. And there will be very many fish, for these waters go there and the others become fresh; so everything will live where the river goes.“And it will come about that fishermen will stand beside it; from bEngedi to Eneglaim there will be a place for the spreading of nets. Their fish will be according to their kinds, like the fish of the Great Sea, every many. “But its swamps and marshes will not become 1fresh; they will be 2left for salt. “aBy the river on its bank, on one side and on the other, will grow all kinds of trees for food. Their cleaves will not wither and their fruit will not fail. They will bear every month because their water flows from the sanctuary, and their fruit will be for food and their dleaves for healing.” Thus says the Lord 1GOD, “This shall be the aboundary by which you shall divide the land for an inheritance among the twelve tribes of Israel; Joseph shall have two portions. “You shall divide it for an inheritance, each one 1equally with the other; for I swore to give it to your forefathers, and this land shall fall to you as an inheritance.


God has not forgotten His promises:

2Pet. 3:7-8 But by His word athe present heavens and earth are being reserved for bfire, kept for cthe day of judgment and destruction of ungodly men. But do not let this one fact escape your notice, abeloved, that with the Lord one day is like a thousand years, and ba thousand years like one day.

Anonymous said...

Since this subject has come up....

I know for a fact that the Mormon Church leaders are aware of the New World Order and New Age Movement. I have talked with the President of the Mormon Church some years back. Some members don’t understand as some main stream Christians don’t either, but the top leaders do and they oppose it completely. This is part of the scriptures of the Book of Mormon that are used to describe it. It tells of secret oaths that people make with the devil and they plan to take over the world. There are other verses that explain that these oaths and secret combinations started at the time of Cain. The doctrine is that it is the devils church. There is much more on this subject, but I do not want to take up this blog.

Ether 8
Modern Gentiles are warned against the secret combination which shall seek to overthrow the freedom of all lands, nations, and countries.

18 And it came to pass that they formed a secret acombination, even as they of old; which combination is most abominable and wicked above all, in the sight of God;

19 For the Lord worketh not in secret combinations, neither doth he will that man should shed blood, but in all things hath forbidden it, from the beginning of man.

20 And now I, Moroni, do not write the manner of their oaths and combinations, for it hath been made known unto me that they are had among all people, and they are had among the Lamanites.

22 And whatsoever nation shall uphold such secret combinations, to get power and gain, until they shall spread over the nation, behold, they shall be destroyed; for the Lord will not suffer that the blood of his saints, which shall be shed by them, shall always cry unto him from the ground for vengeance upon them and yet he avenge them not.

23 Wherefore, O ye Gentiles, it is wisdom in God that these things should be shown unto you, that thereby ye may repent of your sins, and suffer not that these murderous combinations shall get above you, which are built up to get power and gain—and the work, yea, even the work of destruction come upon you, yea, even the sword of the justice of the Eternal God shall fall upon you, to your overthrow and destruction if ye shall suffer these things to be.

24 Wherefore, the Lord commandeth you, when ye shall see these things come among you that ye shall awake to a sense of your awful situation, because of this secret combination which shall be among you; or wo be unto it, because of the blood of them who have been slain; for they cry from the dust for vengeance upon it, and also upon those who built it up.

25 For it cometh to pass that whoso buildeth it up seeketh to overthrow the freedom of all lands, nations, and countries; and it bringeth to pass the destruction of all people, for it is built up by the devil, who is the father of all lies; even that same liar who beguiled our first parents, yea, even that same liar who hath caused man to commit murder from the beginning; who hath hardened the hearts of men that they have murdered the prophets, and stoned them, and cast them out from the beginning.

Anonymous said...

Rudi said: “If you are one of those who still chooses to believe that only international terrorists and drug dealers are the only "enemies of the state" that this
"entity analytics",
"smart surveillance" and
"global name recognition" technology has been designed and developed to target, it might be wise to reconsider and be prepared
for another scenerio. –Rudi”

Well said too; it has been many years since “None dare call it Treason” revealed what President Johnson and others were doing to undermine this country, and it has been many years since “The Puppet Masters” revealed the under girding materialist philosophy of the UN, but it seems to be the nature of the flesh to push as far away as possible the consequence of sin, until Jerusalem is surrounded.
Joyce, I don’t think that Adam had this statement addressed to him.
“Whosoever is born of God does not commit sin, for His seed remains in him and he cannot sin.”
“For we are members of His body, of His flesh and of His bones. . . this is a great mystery.”
Just something to ponder.

Anonymous said...

Joyce -

Regarding a portion of your 1:30 AM post below:

"It is critical to know that we already are the righteousness of Messiah in our new identity.

2Cor. 5:17 Therefore if anyone is in Christ, 1he is a new creature; the old things passed away; behold, new things have come.

I died and was buried with Yeshua and am raised up in newness of life, His life.

Gal. 2:20 “I have been crucified with Christ; and it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me; and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who dloved me and egave Himself up for me."

___________________________________


Joyce, the more you talk, the moee you reveal NEW AGE BELIEFS, rather than Christian beliefs.

Anonymous said...

Did you guys know that Mormons are against the New world order and the new age movement? Kind of interesting.

7:44 PM

Especially since the masonic culture is so prevelant in mormonism - even weaved into the very fabric that the mormon tabernacle choir wears - and also into thier architecture - thier temple in Utah -so I doubt that it is a true statement for the organization

Anonymous said...

I appreciate everyone's comments re: the coming deception and our response to it. It is my opinion that the church is about to experience a tremendous sifting process. The wheat and the chaff, the sheep and the goats will become abundantly clear.

I find much comfort in Scripture...Jesus said in Matt. 24:24, "For false christs and false prophets will arise and perform great signs and wonders, so as to lead astray, IF POSSIBLE, even the elect"....You see, it is not possible for the elect to be decieved by the false Christ because the work is HIS. He will complete the work HE began, HE is Author and Finisher of our Faith.

When I came to this understanding of the true finished work of Christ and His sovereignty in my salvation, it brought me much comfort and peace.

John 6:39 Jesus said, "And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that of all that He has given Me I lose nothing, but raise it up on the last day."

The plan for our redemption was settled as far back as the garden, and indeed before the foundations of the world, what a mighty God we serve!

Anonymous said...

I guess some Mormons are Conservatives. Not the ones I know however. My internist is a Mormon (she doesn't know that I know)and her husband (Mormon) is a biggie in the Moritz School of Law at my local Big Ten University. His parents are also Academic-types from Salt Lake City and are big promoters of Move-On.org. My doctor actually told me she is in favor of Socialized Medicine. This AM her office called to remind me to bring all my meds. to my next appt. so they can load all my info. into their computer system as they are doing away with paper records. I told her I would be very careful what I told my doctor in future since they are hooking up with the govt. system now.

Anonymous said...

Hi Constance,

I haven't "flown the coop." LOL My husband is newly retired and we have been on the go like crazy.

But I will be coming online as time permits.

I am still working on the Benjamin Creme - Freemason connection along with a couple of other research projects. :-)

Anonymous said...

Constance, do you (or anyone) have an opinion on the "star" that the world will see before Matraiya makes his grand entrance.

Will they put a bright satellite in the air and call it a star/sign?

How can they know there will be star in the sky shining day and night for all the world to see?

Please help, I'm very, puzzled.

Shem1777 said...

We who believe in Yahushua know that NA, at its core, is in diametric opposition to the christian faith.

Never the less, even people outside of the fundamental christian faith often express their opposition to NA when it conflicts with their own religious views, world view, moral code etc.

One example of this for me was my former neighbors in Arizona. An Israeli born Jewish family who were adamant about their atheism, were very upset when their daughter, and her life partner opened a New Age bookstore in Scottsdale.

It does not surprise me that at least some Mormons know of, and are opposed to NA.

Having lived in Mormon country for 3 decades, i know that many of the more conservative Mormons would find NA teachings unwholesome, euphemistically speaking.

Those of us who are in Christ, the True Light, know that the spirit of darkness is the power behind NA.

For us, the Savior is our very life. We can not separate opposition to NA from the gospel. This often results in conflict on this blog.

2 Timothy 3:5-7
Having a form of reverence, but denying the power there of:from such turn away.
For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts.
Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

Anonymous said...

Big Brother Obama Supporters On the Internet Are Watching You

http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/8835

Obama supporters list their non-Obama parents on website:

http://theobamaforum.com/showthread.php?t=1779

On the first link posted above, there is another link to report anti-Obama sentiment by your co-workers and peers.

Other things they are doing: taking down license plates and kind of car of those who have anti-Obama bumper stickers.

Trying to ban conservative sites

If this is all true, it is frightening even though it is probably being pushed by Obama socialists and not by him.

Anonymous said...

This from mac's second website-

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen
/spages/1066587.html

ADL: Amnesty denying Israel the right to defend itself

By Natasha Mozgovaya, Haaretz Correspondent

The Anti-Defamation League on Monday blasted Amnesty International as denying Israel the right to defend itself after the human rights organization urged a global freeze on arms sales to Israel.

"In calling for an arms embargo of Israel, Amnesty International is doing nothing short of denying Israel the right to self-defense, an internationally accepted right of every sovereign nation," said ADL National Director Abraham H. Foxman in a statement.

etc.

Bleedin Red White and Blue Baby! said...

Anon 11:20,

Just my personal thought on the star matter. Since I read the Share Int release, I have pondered this same question. One idea, would be a satelite, however Revelation gives a perfectly reasonable explanation that some over look, Wormwood. An inbound meteor or comet would be visible for a short period of time before impact and would appear like a star to the naked eye.

For me this thought fits better than most others. As it would give the rulers of this planet an explanation for the emergence of a newly visible "star". Also since it would surely become a tool used to bring worship to the beast, this same worship would ultimately lead to their destruction at the hands of our Father.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous 5:26,

That's Scripture. If you don't like that part, just tear it out of your Bible, what can I tell you..

Joyce

Anonymous said...

Anon 11:20 AM: I wonder the same thing also. Each evening I see this star that is WAY brighter than any other (it's close to the moon) and I always think "is this it?" Is this the star "we" have been waiting for?

I for one have no patience for waiting and wish Our Lord and Savior would speed things up a bit.

Anonymous said...

Dear Constance,

Dissenting Catholic priest Father Hans Kung who is president of the Foundation for a Global Ethic is having another major hissy - fit.

If the following article is any indicator, it looks like this ringleader of the radical "Catholic" left who justifies everything with the "spirit of Vatican II" mantra(NOT) may be literally quaking in his boots - not only over the Motu Proprio concerning the celebration of the Tridentine Rite Latin Mass, but also over the lifting of the excommunications from the SSPX bishops.

THEOLOGIAN'S CRITICISM OF POPE DRAWS VATICAN RESPONSE

By John Thavis
Catholic News Service (2/26/09)

VATICAN CITY (CNS) -- The dissident theologian Father Hans Kung has criticized Pope Benedict XVI as isolated and unable to take creative steps to deal with a series of internal church questions, including priestly celibacy and birth control.

Father Kung said the pope's recent lifting of the excommunications of four traditionalist bishops illustrated the pontiff's desire for a smaller and purer church, and his inability to make necessary reforms.

"The church risks becoming a sect. Many Catholics no longer expect anything from this pope. It's very sad," Father Kung said in an interview published by the French newspaper Le Monde Feb. 24.
...read more....

http://tinyurl.com/d2pyc7

It occurs to me that if conservative orthodox priests start becoming more the rule in the Roman Catholic Church, Father Kung's Global Ethic Foundation may be the entity that risks becoming a "sect."

Anonymous said...

P.S.

REPORT:BISHOP WHO HAD DENIED HOLOCAUST APOLOGIZES (2//26/09)

ROME (AP) - A Catholic news agency says that a British bishop who had denied the Holocaust has apologized for his remarks.
Bishop Richard Williamson was shown in a Swedish state TV interview saying historical evidence indicates there were no Nazi gas chambers and that a maximum of 300,000 people died in concentration camps in the Holocaust.

The remarks caused widespread outrage.

Pope Benedict XVI had lifted a 20-year-old excommunication decree imposed on Williamson and three other bishops who had been consecrated without Vatican approval.

The Zenit Catholic news agency said Thursday that Williamson expressed regret for the statements.

It quoted him as saying that to all who took offense, "before God I apologize."


http://tinyurl.com/bzhm3l

Anonymous said...

Yes, I have also noticed that unusually bright star, (for a few weeks now). I was at my mother's house the other night and she noticed it as well, a neighbor overheard her pointing it out to me and said that it was Jupiter and it's been visible for a couple of months now. I too have wondered if it's "THE" star they claim will precede Maitreya's grand entrance, time will tell.

Anonymous said...

http://www.omegaletter.com/blogs/

Ha ha a great editorial- I hope no one posted it already-

Anonymous said...

From AmericanFreePress.net

Rothschild Agents Take 10 Key Posts
In Administration of Rookie President

By Michael Collins Piper

OUR GREATEST FOUNDING FATHER and first president, George Washington, probably wouldn’t be ready to celebrate his birthday on Feb. 22 if he were alive today. Having led the 13 colonies to independence from the British Empire in 1783, following the course of a difficult eight-year struggle by those freedom-loving American colonists who followed him, Washington (who lived from 1732 to 1799) would most assuredly be appalled to see that the liberties achieved from the American Revolution are now being flagrantly defied by a number of figures who populate the upper ranks of the administration of Barack Obama.

Six former Rhodes Scholars (educated at Oxford University in Britain) and four others associated with the London School of Economics are serving in key posts in the Obama administration. That’s not good.

Here are 10 of the key “British”—that is, Rothschild —operatives now ensconced in the Obama administration (more can be expected):

Susan Rice—ambassador to the UN; Michael McFaul—head of the Russian desk at the National Security Council; Elena Kagan—solicitor general of the United States; Anne-Marie Slaughter—State Department policy planning staff; Neal S.Wolin—deputy counsel to the president for economic policy; Ezekial Emanuel—senior counselor at the White House Office of Management and Budget on health care policy; Lawrence Summers—head of the National Economic Council; Peter Orszag—director of the Office of Management and Budget; Peter Rouse—senior advisor to the president; Mona Sutphen—deputy chief of the White House staff.

The truth about the Rhodes Scholarships is not known to the average American who is constantly told by the mass media that Rhodes Scholars (such as former President Bill Clinton) are among “the best and the brightest.”

The Rhodes Scholarships—awarded to Americans and students from other former British colonies—are funded by a trust set up by 19th Century British imperial figure Cecil Rhodes, whose intent was to indoctrinate these scholars with the theme that the American colonies should be reunited with the British Empire and that they should work through “public service” to achieve that goal.

But Rhodes wasn’t just some rich madcap dreamer. His ventures were underwritten by the international Rothschild dynasty operating from the financial district in London known as “The City”—the banking center of the Rothschild controlled British empire that also includes the London School of Economics.

So now a clique of internationalists trained in the idea of extinguishing American independence are ensconced in the Obama administration.

And another Rhodes Scholar, Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal, is widely touted as the great Grand Old Party candidate to “take back the White House” in 2012. Jindal doesn’t offer “change.” He—like the other globalists in the Obama administration—is part of the problem.

All of this is not a “conspiracy theory.” Rather, these facts are well known to those familiar with what the Rhodes scholarships are really about.

Bleedin Red White and Blue Baby! said...

Jacklyn,

The star you speak of is indeed Jupiter. It however is extremely brighter than I ever remember seeing it in years past. It could be that in years before I have lived in Florida, while this year I live in Michigan. However years ago I heard a theory from my uncle, who is neck deep into conspiracy theories. He told me of a global governmental experiment called Project Lucifer. He told me that the satellite that had been in Jupiters orbit was to be crashed into the pole of the planet. The satelite carrying a thermo nuclear payload was to detinate at the pole in an attempt to create fission in Jupiter's unstable atmosphere. Thus creating another star in our galaxy. The idea was to see if we could make other planets either a) capable of sustaining life, or b) the possibility of creating life.

Now my uncle is half crazy mind you so I left this as one of his off the wall theories. However since Jupiter has become so visible, and now appearing so bright to me, I would like to get a look through a telescope. lol

Anonymous said...

Anonymous 11:00 AM

Sounds like you know some bad Mormons. Most are actually very conservative. The Mormon Church just got a ton of flack over their involvement in calling up church members to fight against gay marriage in CA over proposition 8. They worked with other faiths to keep marriage between a man and a women. Tom Hanks called them unpatriotic for doing so.

The Leaders of the Church teach against such things. They preach against communism, socialism in all of its forms. They have given so many talks against it; put together would make volumes of books. They believe in charity but that it should come from the people and churches not government. They teach the members to stand by the constiution because it was inspired by God to give man the freedom to have religion and liberty in general.

Ezra Taft Benson a President of the of the LDS church was highly known for being a very strong conservative and understanding the NWO. He had held a white house cabinet position at one time, spoke out blatantly over the pulpit regarding communism and any kind of socialism was bad and talked about the NWO and these kinds of issues.

Those Mormons that are involved or back such things like moveon.org are going against what the Mormon Church teaches. You find this in all faiths; people don’t follow what they have been told.

Anonymous said...

Headline on Drudge Report, Thurs. evening:

JEWISH LEADERS: (Re: Hillary)
"SHE'S NOT THE LEADER WE KNEW"

Let's keep our eyes on Israel and pray...something is brewing.

Anonymous said...

Hey JD, that is very interesting, maybe your uncle wasn't so crazy after all!

Anonymous said...

I thought Jupiter was the planet next to Venus back in November 08.

http://www.skyandtelescope.com/letsgo/whatsuptonight/34887304.html

I thought Saturn is in view and also Venus is very bright just above the moon in the SW sky

http://www.earthsky.org/skywatching

Anonymous said...

Well, some of us have been warning about what would happen under this new “leadership” and now, as another has said: “the chickens are coming home to roost.”
Just remember and pay attention to what is happening in Algeria; Islamic violence is not predicated on our relationship to Israel.
http://www.rapturealert.com/2009/022409betrayal.asp
http://wcbstv.com/national/hillary.clinton.israel.2.945238.html

Anonymous said...

project lucifer (or - the second sun [son - if you have further understanding regarding the double speak that it was intended to bring forth]) was supposed to culminate with the passing of the millenium - that would have occured 8 to 9 years ago -
I had this discussion with Ralph Epperson in a radio interview in the mid/late 90s-

If some one wants to be a mormon - whatever - but - please understand that they are - especially in thier "inner circles" (think you can get into thier off limit areas - not unless you drink the kool aide)are a dyed in the wool masonic organization - it takes litle - or even no real investigation to find these facts out.

DouginMI

Anonymous said...

Constance
YesNaSpanishTown,
oldmanoftheski
Setterman,
Joyce,
Susanna,
Shem,
JD,
Jaclyn,
DouginMI,
and particularly anonymous 7:32,

Thank you thank you thank you

This blog has more useful and pertinent
information that all the filtered news
agencies and their filtered news
combined.
All the talking heads on TV with their
fat paychecks, signed by their fat
NWO-shill bosses will never talk
about what's really going
on. They can't, because they'd lose their
jobs if they did.
9/11 was an inside job.
Bush did all he could to wreck this country.
Obama will do the same with his
NWO/ freemason cabinet.

ALL my hope is in Jesus the only Christ.
Bless his Holy name !

Anonymous said...

What time is it on God's prophetic clock?

Sen. John Kerry is out schmoozing with Livni this week.....while our Sec. of State (Hillary) is busy lecturing the Israeli's about rebuilding Gaza...and Obama is considering appointing Chas Freeman, a leading anti-jew Islamic apologist/propagandist to the top US Intelligence post...

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2009/02/what_obamas_proposed_intellige.html

Anonymous said...

As I understand stars like the sun use nuclear fusion (thermonuclear bombs use this process as well). The atomic bomb and nuclear power plants use nuclear fission. Can I really explain what these things are? No.

I somehow don't doubt our government would spend money on such a foolish thing; it would make a great pork barrel project. (Isn't it interesting Obama gave his big speech on Fat Tuesday. He was getting us ready for the fat in his huge budget.) But, it won't work.

I read a thing on the internet and I don't even know where I found it, that suggested the Star of Bethlehem was really Jupiter. They suggested that they could figure this out by backtracking the orbit patterns of the planets and stars or something like that.

Have you noticed in Obama's big speech that what he outlined, as he did in his campaign, was a total shift (paradigm shift?) in how the government will function from now on. He's not all that concerned about the free market system. This is why the stock markets are crashing. The market is not a free market any more. It's like trying to turn a PC into a Mac.

Anonymous said...

I don't know how significant this is, but if Israel can't land planes at European Airports, I have to assume it could be devastaing. I copied and pasted part of the article below, I know it's a little repetative. Just forwarding fyi.


IATA, International Air Transport Association warns it may follow US Federal Aviation Administration, downgrade Israel’s aviation safety ranking. Should decision materialize, EU airport may refuse Israeli planes' landing

Roi Mandel Published: 02.26.09, 23:18 / Israel News

The International Air Transport Association (IATA) has informed Israeli airlines that they must upgrade their safety and security measure, or risk being turned away from European Union airports

Anonymous said...

Marxist Obama is no friend of Israel.
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2009/02/no_surprises_here.html

Or maybe it's the Muslim part of Obama that doesn't like Jews.

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/
MY MUSLIM PRESIDENT OBAMA"

Muslim in the White House.

When I wrote those words as far back as January 2007, I was called every name in the book. I was a hater, a racist, an islamophobe. When I wrote this oped, "Obama, the Muslim thing and why it matters," back in November 2007, I was excoriated. There were 265 posts at Atlas from January 2007 until the election under the heading: Muslim in the White House. Remember, you were not allowed to say it.

Well, all that is changed. Snap! Just like that. Imagine if the following piece had run during the election. Or better yet, after 911, when we still had our marbles.

It is a devastating piece. Today in Forbes magazine, it is finally declared. (hat tip Michael in Portugal)
MY MUSLIM PRESDIENT OBAMA,
Why members of the Islamic faith see him as one of the flock.

Or maybe it's New Age Obama who is letting his slip show now.

Over at African Press we learn that Obama's Kenyan friend Odinga is working with the Iranians.
"As we wrote earlier that Kenya and Iran will have closer ties than before, should Obama win the elections, it is now evident that this is happening. The Kenyan Prime Minister Raila Odinga visited Iran sometimes back to discus how Kenya can get Iran’s help to get a reactor to boost Kenya’s electricity needs and while on his trip to that country, he took along Kibaki’s invitation to the Iranian President to visit Kenya.

"Today, the Iranian leader is in Kenya to discuss business and surprisingly, the US embassy in Kenya has confirmed that the US sees nothing wrong in Kenya’s close ties with Iran.

"his is a blessing from the Americans to the Iranians to start helping Kenya with the needed reactor technology. The technology here is the same as the one the US and the West have been protesting about and fighting the Iranian people.

"Now that Kenya will get the same help, this indicates that Obama’s US has finally taken new steps to accept the Iranian’s right to decide for themselves and not to be bulldozed by the US and the West."

I like what Limbaugh said. He said don't believe a word Obama says. Obama says the things people want to hear even though they have no connection with the reality of what is happening in government.

Anonymous said...

From CNBC . . .

Head of market analysis for Schneider Foreign Exchange Stephen Gallo told CNBC yesterday that the financial crisis will lead to the creation of a global central bank and a global single currency within 15 years, echoing the call of top globalists who have exploited the problems they created to push for a new world financial order.

Highlighting the significance of the introduction of the Euro, Gallo said that the single currency was “where we are headed globally on a monetary basis over the course of the next 10 to 15 years.”

Stating that one of the things that caused the financial crisis was an over expansion of the money supply on a global basis, Gallo said, “Over the course of the next couple of decades central banks are going to need to pay more attention to what’s going on with the global money supply rather than the money supply just in their own borders,” a necessity that, “might call into question the need for some kind of global central bank or a global central bank that’s united by central banks for bigger monetary areas underneath that global central bank.”

Shem1777 said...

More on Obama from, The Golden Report

http://thegoldenreport.com

February 23 post, click on the two links

Anonymous said...

Paul,

Re:"ALL my hope is in Jesus the only Christ.
Bless his Holy name!


Amen, and Amen!!!

Anonymous said...

Anonymous 7:32 and All

Has anyone noticed that at the end of the day, all the New Age "roads" seem to lead to London????

And guess where the secret organization we know as Freemasonry was officially established on June 24,1717???


http://en.wikipedia.org/
wiki/Premier_Grand_Lodge_of_England

Just an observation.

Anonymous said...

P.S.

Among the people who influenced Cecil Rhodes was British art critic and social thinker John Ruskin.

Following a crisis of religious belief, and under the influence of his great friend Thomas Carlyle, Ruskin abandoned art criticism at the end of the 1850s, moving towards commentary on politics. In Unto This Last, he expounded theories about social justice, which influenced the development of the British Labour party and Christian socialism.

.....Ruskin's influence extends far beyond the field of art history. The author Leo Tolstoy described him as, "one of those rare men who think with their heart." Marcel Proust was a Ruskin enthusiast and helped translate his works into French. Mahatma Gandhi quoted Ruskin's Unto This Last frequently, and even translated the work into Gujarati, calling it Sarvodaya. He spoke often of the influence Ruskin had on his philosophy. Ruskin's views also attracted Oscar Wilde's imagination in the late 19th century.

A number of Utopian socialist "Ruskin Colonies" attempted to put his political ideals into practice. These communities included Ruskin, Nebraska; Ruskin, Florida; Ruskin, British Columbia; and the Ruskin Commonwealth Association, a colony which existed in Dickson County, Tennessee from 1894 to 1899. Ruskin's ideas also influenced the development of the British Labour Party. In Britain, many streets, places and colleges are named after Ruskin.....
read entire article...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Ruskin

As the above article reveals, some of the utopian socialist "Ruskin Colonies" were established right here in the United States.

RUSKIN COLONY

The Ruskin Colony (or Ruskin Commonwealth Association) was a utopian socialist colony which existed near Tennessee City in Dickson County, Tennessee from 1894 to 1896. The colony moved to a slightly more permanent second settlement on an old farm five miles north from 1896 to 1899, and saw another brief incarnation near Waycross, in southern Georgia, from 1899 until it finally dissolved in 1901. Its regional location within the Southern United States set it apart from many other similar utopian projects of the era. At its high point, the population was around 250. The colony was named after John Ruskin, the English socialist writer. A cave on the colony's second property in Dickson County still carries his name....

....The eventual breakup of the Ruskin colony was due to several elements, the most problematic being the unequal distribution of membership rights of colonists complicated by the "shareholder"-type initial investment fees. Much of the blame lay in the original charter members, which had become entrenched in leadership and direction of Ruskin. One particular issue which drew ideological divisions through the colony was that of polygamous relationships, or the practice of "free love", within members of the colony. Ruskinites opposed to these beliefs brought harsh criticism down on those who harbored free love sympathies, which were in many ways linked to anarchist currents that had been growing within the colony. This could be traced to Alfred Edward's editorial slant towards anarchism during his time as editor of Coming Nation.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruskin_Colonies


The way I learned it, Socialism, if it is really Socialism is incompatible with Christianity.

Ergo, the words "Christian" and "Socialism" are mutually exclusive terms - especially since Socialism often serves as a euphemism for the "politics of envy."

Constance Cumbey said...

To Anonymous 11:20

To be perfectly honest, it is very difficult to know how much of what the New Agers / Share International etc say is true and how much is DIVERSION, i.e. have us looking for a star while they carry off their serious global governance agenda. Time and events will eventually tell. I would keep my eye on both fronts. Jesus said there would be signs in the sun, and the moon, and the stars, and upon the earth great distress of nations. Jesus did tell us, also, that when we see these things come upon the earth we should lift up our heads for "our redemption draweth nigh."

Constance

Constance Cumbey said...

I have been interviewed on the radio at various times over the past 25 years by both Mormon and RLDS persons. I truly believe this thing comes down to who loves God and is TRYING to please him. Those who do get their eyes opened. The others don't. The hypocrites get left where they always were.

Constance

Anonymous said...

Meanwhile, the AOC marches on.....

Global Television For Our Global Leader

AIM Report | By Cliff Kincaid | March 1, 2009

Excerpts from the article:

“Elite members of the World Economic Forum (WEF) meeting in Davos, Switzerland, at the end of January were considering a proposal for a new global television network to usher in a state of “global governance.””

“The media proposal, which was included in “The Global Agenda 2009” report, is to create “a new global network” with “the capacity to connect the world, bridging cultures and peoples, and telling us who we are and what we mean to each other.” Several prominent U.S. media figures signed on to the alarming and controversial proposal.”

“The Global Agenda 2009 report says that “sovereign states do not adequately address problems reaching across borders” and that “international taxation” may be needed to generate the “additional resources” for “global governance.””

“Under the title of “Recommendations” (page 182), the Council on the Future of Media declares that “The Council is championing a new global, independent news and information service whose role is to inform, educate and improve the state of the world—one that would take advantage of all platforms of content delivery from mobile to satellite and online to create a new global network.””

“It goes on [to state], “In a world where there are calls for global governance as a response to a global financial crisis, where scientific research, capital flows and production chains are globalized, the media and the communities in which we imagine ourselves remain fiercely localized.” Hence, a global network will work against “localized” or national-based systems and convince people to go “global” with their outlook and solutions. In other words, the new network will help undermine old-fashioned notions of national sovereignty and patriotism.”

Full article here:

http://www.aim.org/aim-report/global-television-for-our-global-leader/

WEF Global Agenda report here:

http://www.weforum.org/en/events/GlobalAgenda/index.htm

To find the global TV network plan...click on "Read the highlights of their discussions" , then click “Society and Values”, and finally, “Future of Media".

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