Monday, January 28, 2008


  1. Fortuitously, I ran into another author at my mechanic's this afternoon. She had written a book about her experiences in the Armenian community and her family's survival of "The Armenian Genocide."  The book, ORPHAN IN THE SANDS, is available by direct order to Virginia Haroutunian, P.O. Box 391, Bloomfield Hills, MI, USA 48303 ($15.00 plus $5.00 postage and handling or $20 flat).   The Armenians took serious persecution from the Turks around the time. Virginia Haroutinian, a Pontiac, Michigan public school teacher of Choral Education for 29 years, has written a book which is a local and beyond best seller. It has many fascinating insights into the Armenian genocide tragedy. Reportedly, that was an inspiration to Hitler for his later ethnic cleansing of Europe's Jewish and Gypsy populations. As we face a similar harsh climate for Christian believers to that Armenian Christians experienced I thought there were useful insights for us from her family recollections. Also of interest to me is that Virginia Haroutunian spent time in the 1960s in Spain. Armenia became the first Christian nation in 302 A.D.

It should make an interesting on-air discussion tomorrow: 2 p.m. Pacific time; 3 p.m. Mountain time; 4 p.m. Central time; and 5 p.m. Eastern time.

Please join us and stay tuned!
Sounds very interesting.
I forgot to give her book title which is ORPHAN IN THE SANDS by Virginia Haroutunian. I am still reading and it is a page turner.

Hi Constance!!! So glad to find you on the web. I soooo miss your show on the radio. Your post mentions a show and gives times, but when is it? I'll check back for your answer!!!!

Kelly: radioshow is Tuesday and Friday!
Hi Kelly l. norman-

I copied and pasted this from a previous blog of Constances' to give you additional information about "My Perspective" Constances'
radio program.

"The Paltalk Chatroom can be accessed for free by going to You can download the software for free and then access “Talk Radio” and then under the submenu, “TheMicroEffect."

The "Micro Effect" is also listed as a link on the front page to the right of Constances' article. You can go directly there to listen and if you want to join us in the chatroom follow the instructions as directed above or as directed by clicking "Chatroom" at the Micro Effect site. The program is on Tuesday and Friday afternoon at the times given in her program announcement 2pm Pacific Time. Hope to see you there! Rudi
Hi Kelly,

We are on and stations carrying its signal at 5 p.m. Eastern Time, 2 p.m. Pacific time, 3 mountain time, 4 p.m. Central time. Tuesday afternoons, and Friday afternoons. We have an active chatroom through "paltalk" -- I believe links to go there are up at

For information on Salvador de Madariaga's sufism and theosophical contacts.
Thanks Constance,
"Inayat Khan’s work went ahead after the war, especially in Europe, where he reached many of the cultural and social elite “such as Debussy, Scriabine, Maria Montessori, d'Annunzio, Paderewski, Count Tolstoi Jr., Salvador de Madariaga.” Much of his later following was recruited from the European gentry and aristocracy of the period. By 1923 Inayat Khan had established Sufi Societies in many of the major cities of Europe."
link above
I opened my latest copy of APOSTASY TODAY(oops, "Christianity Today) yesterday and discovered to my horror that Club of Rome president, Alliance of Civilizations proponent Prince Hassan bin Talal of Jordan, was a two page featured story. I was so sad I couldn't pick up the phone and talk with Herb Peters about it. Rich Peterson and I did speak. We both plan to write on this -- STAY TUNED!
I hope you all have read Joseph Farah’s WND article:
Phony, ignorant Christians
It is a warning of what has happened to the Church’s understanding of “end-times” and its role concerning Israel.
Thanks setterman-
My husband gets Joseph Farah’s
Omega Letter and has begun forwarding them to me. I appreciate his insight. Bless you!
- Rudi
THANK YOU! For times.

Please make this part of your bio. plus the radio link for the lazy people like me! ;)


P.S. Shari Banking good subject as it's coming to a bank near you via SWF's.
Thanks for the link Setterman--there is nothing more ominous I feel than the the brazen antisemitism that seems to be permeating the very air we breathe.

I can't help but wonder--when will Senator Obama and his supporters be challenged on pastor Jeremiah Wright's links to Farrakhan? Or is it now considered "intolerant" to complain about anti-semitism?
Britt Gillette has a new article today, "The Technologies of Revelation," which is well worth a read. I read his material in small bits to prevent my head from exploding.
Read some of your recommended article.

Keep in mind Holograms that can be seen for miles. The image of the beast could be one. ?

I do not think at this time Digital Angel will be the chip as they have INK that can store information.

Keep in mind HAARP, Chemtrails, Fluoride, New Freedom Intitative, mental health testing that will be done on everyone and I think at the local schools based on Boeing saying the kids would go to school 2 days, adults 2 days a week plus community service one day. Lifelong Learning!

One parent would work at home and the other "mate" would be allowed to commute within a corridor or mass transit I kid you not with planned cities, that's why the move for light rail, living downtown, and new arena's. You will also have an "personal educational plan" given to you by the master teachers that you will follow along with a "family plan" to do with your family group. The educational plan will make you a complete citizen and a well rounded person. You will have some choices for electives as a hobby.

This will be in a school near you as they will become the community centers. Why not do mental health testing there? Seems resonable to me.

This was told to me by Boeing exucutives in the early 90's. k
I just heard on micro radio as you probably did that FBI others are moving to our SECOND CAPITAL, Denver.

You knew that(senior moment)the Military Command has moved out of the mountain in Denver area and is now on near by military base. Northcom? It's in mothballs, waiting. For who? k
Enjoyed your show today, Constance, per usual (was unable to log into the paltalk chatroom as doing so causes poor audio reception).

Breaking News by Share International - The Maitreya visits a restroom in Barcelona. Instead of the writing being on the wall, the handprint is on the mirror. Good Grief!
The post with the Share International link was not recent. I was being a bit sarcastic in my delivery of the story I stumbled upon. I wanted to clarify that.
Hi Constance and everybody,

I just posted the information for this Thursday's full page Wall Street Journal ad on the Global Bank Gold Suppresion Scheme.

If your interested you can find it at my blog:


Anonymous-k 3:21pm. Are your aware of SHIRLEY MCCUNE? She is a Washington State high ranking state education official who spoke to the 1989 Govenors' Conference on the future of education. Your comments on lifelong learning mirrored hers. She has long been connected to Boeing via ed reform. Also she worked with Tim Waters of MCREL, a ed reform group that does future work. Waters has mentioned holograms as teachers for kids (Washington LEARNS keynote 2005) and brain implants. McCune is an ardent New Ager who channels Blavatsky's entity KOOTHUMI, and wrote the book The Light Shall Set You Free.
Dear last anonymous:

Thanks for the post on Shirley McCune. Kansas correspondents made me aware of her nefarious and overt activities on behalf of New Age consciousness altering in the late 1980s and through the 1990s. I have watched disturbing videos of her over the years.

I just saw Elvis AND Metreya at the
Mall !

Yours truly,
Farmer has posted an outstanding blog piece entitled "Spake Like a Dragon:"
That sounds like it must have been a good show. Paul, did you really see Maitreya at the mall, and if so, in what context???
This "heads-up" regarding SEPA (Single Euro Payments Area)is brought to you with much thanks to "FarmerBoy" from over on FP message board "Economic/MOB Watch".

"Joint statement by the European Commission and the European Central Bank welcoming the formal launch of SEPA payment instruments by EU banks"

"SEPA is the new Single Euro Payments Area that enables people to make payments throughout the euro area as quickly, safely and easily as they make national payments."

"Speech by Gertrude Tumpel-Gugerell, Member of the Executive Board of the ECB" (European Central Bank)

..."Nine years ago we introduced the single currency. Today, we launch SEPA – another important step in European integration. But let me assure you: today is only just the beginning!"...
... "SEPA is all about integration, harmonisation and modernisation. It is a natural consequence of the single currency and a major step in the creation of the Single Market. That is why the ECB has supported the project closely over the past six years. Today’s launch is the first visible result."...
..."Let me stress: we do not envision opening the door only to sit back and admire the great many opportunities on the other side. Let’s climb the mountain, discover the opportunities and progress onwards and upwards. Let’s complement the SEPA instruments with innovative services, such as online and mobile payment initiation, e-invoicing and e-reconciliation. By combining these services with SEPA instruments, we eliminate paper and the payment process becomes fully electronic. End-users will spend less time on payments – and, as we all know, time means money."...

Press Release

"Today a historical first step has been taken to start the SEPA (Single Euro Payments Area) by launching the SEPA Credit Transfer (SCT) for euro payments from more than 4,000 banks in 31 countries1. SCT is the first SEPA core deliverable to be followed by SEPA Direct Debit (2009), and a step by step roll out to realise SEPA for cards. Starting today SEPA will gradually replace existing electronic euro payment instruments in the SEPA area impacting every citizen, corporate, small and medium sized enterprise, merchant and public administration. After the migration all consumers will be able to pay and receive euro payments to and from any corporate, SME and public administration with the same three euro payment instruments."...

Rose, you are right on about Obama. If you haven’t seen the article in WND concerning Obama’s pro-Palestinian adviser, here is an address:
Rudi, you have a gift for all of this. The comment concerning “modernization” strikes me as preparation to label those who would oppose them as atavists.
Hi Setterman- I love a good mystery, and this world, such as it is, gives access to a never-ending supply of resources via the internet. (for the time being at least) As I've said before, the battle and the glory belong to the Lord. By the way, I had to look up
atavists. You're right, I'm sure those of us who offer resistance, are certainly viewed as such. -Rudi

"Shew me thy ways, O LORD; teach me thy paths. Lead me in thy truth, and teach me: for thou art the God of my salvation; on thee do I wait all the day."
Psalm 25:4-5

A great and scary find!

Step by step they conquer and the majority will barely blink an eye.

So subtle and calculated the trust gains, the trust - just for a time.

Very intersting find Rudi, I am wondering where it willl also dit into the global plan - as they themselves sadi "this is just the beginning" - also (once again) the year 2009.

I just checked my ENCARTA STUDENT for Javier Solana and this is an interesting confirmation of my own research summaries in what a busy boy he was in Novmber, 1995:

Foreign Affairs.
Spain held the EU's rotating presidency in the second half of 1995, pursuing initiatives in regions that were strategically and historically important to Spanish interests. A landmark trade and fishing agreement with Morocco was completed in November, and a long-sought 'Euro-Mediterranean' conference, which included the Maghreb countries of Algeria, Morocco, and Tunisia, as well as the Israel and the Palestinian Authority, was held in Barcelona in late November. Spain also helped broker a trade agreement with the Mercosur (Common Market of the South) countries of Argentina, Brazil, Paraguay, and Uruguay. In May, Spanish Air Force jets participated in NATO bombings of Bosnian Serb targets in the former Yugoslavia, where 1,400 Spanish peacekeepers were stationed. In December, Spanish Foreign Minister Javier Solana was chosen to be the new secretary-general of NATO.

The "drought" applying to Spain after all of this almost certainy sounds prophetic!
This will be of interest to all who are concerned about furtherment of the national ID plans globally.

I am guessing "buying carbon credits" is a done deal - we just have not been told yet.

David J,
They were getting into Al Gore's limo
with Bono and Angelina Jolie.
I wouldn't have noticed, but Shirlie
McLain kept yelling and pointing
them out.


you got my hopes up... I thought we were that much closer to Jesus coming back.
Thanks for the info on Dr. Shirley McCune. It is infuriating to see how our children are targeted.

Berit Kjos has done some outstanding work uncovering the agenda of the one worlder’s “education reform”, which is designed to undermine critical thinking and create a generation(s) of good little global robots. Berit’s book, Brave New Schools, puts it together pretty well.

Excerpts from the online version of Chapeter 3 “A new Way of Thinking”:

"The challenge to humanity is to adopt new ways of thinking, new ways of acting, new ways of organizing itself in society, in short, new ways of living."[1] UNESCO [See Reinventing the World]

"What's happening in America today a total transformation of our society. We have moved into a new era... I'm not sure we have really begun to comprehend... the incredible amount of organizational restructuring and human resource development... The revolution... in curriculum is that we no longer are teaching facts to children." [2] Dr. Shirley McCune addressing the 1989 Governor's Conference on Education.

"We are now between two ages, on the threshold of a new epoch in human history... A different mode of thinking will be required -- one based on those imaginative forms that provide a vision of human nature and destiny...."[3] Dr. Donald A. Cowan, president emeritus of the University of Dallas

Incidentally, this “education reform” and "No Child Left Behind" is based on Bloom’s Taxonomy, a devious brain washing scheme designed within yet another Thaumaturgic Triangle.
When the economy crashes where is the carbon tax money going to come from? A turnip?

For me all the "fear" propaganda is to keep your mind off the real problems and to stress people out to the point they are "frozen" and can't act or move they just roll over and take what ever happens in their numbed mental state.

Anyone know why NorthCom moved out of the mountain in Denver??? Pls let me know.

Adieu (I commend you to God)k
Where will the money come from for carbon credits?
well - do you still have any? Are there still many currencies still used globally? Have they instituted all the recional currencies yet? Has the global wage been brought into fruition? There is an article out there titled "One World - One Money" which highlights various statements from people such as the likes of Paul Volker stating it would be a good thing. That way a person earning amount X in country Y makes the exact same as country Z - once they have all of the money distributed equally across the globe, there will be no need for them. Until that time - those who have any money or live in a country deemed wealthy (excluding China - of course) will pay them.
Make no mistake about it - this is currently in the process of being instituted.

In case anyone is interested. Here is the link to the new book that Oprah is promoting.

I haven't really got a chance to dig into it. But just a glance at the cover makes me think of another book that was about "life purpose"
On the topic of genocide.

Could it be upon us?
One World - One Money link

But seriously folks,
Why would McCain or anyone else
actually seek an endorsement from
the likes of a Arnold Shwarzennegar,
one of the vilest humans ever to hold
public office in America?

Clinton say's we should slow down the economy to save the earth!!!

Next he'll point out that a slowed economy cannot sustain this many people!
Dear Paul,

That mall experience must have been a real shaker! All in good fun,

Oprah is promoting Eckhart Tolle?
Not only is he dangerously bad theology, he is just plain boring!
Heck, he might do more to slow it down than anybody else is capable of doing. I purchased a DVD set from Marianne Williamson's old church, Renaissance Unity, to see what Findhorn was doing as he presented a seminar there. It was one of the most shockingly boring things I have ever seen. I would have to be in a severely altered state to see anything "enlightening" about Eckhart Tolle.

Maybe they go into altered states in the sleep he induces through his boring talks!

Heck, maybe he might even harm Oprah's ratings! I suggest that one of her competing day time shows suggested Eckhart Tolle to equalize ratings!

Thanks Dawn for telling us about this. Can't say I'm surprised at Oprah recommending it. She's really lost it IMHO.

Constance said:
"I would have to be in a severely altered state to see anything "enlightening" about Eckhart Tolle."

That's the very reason I don't see this guy as "small potatoes" Boring speaker that he is, he draws a crowd wherever he goes and millions around the world read his books and follow his teachings. No doubt his followers ARE in "altered-states of consciousness" Oprah has an almost mesmerizing influence on WAY too many fans, and she is clearly using her celebrity status to FIRST introduce, and then through her tv show, her XM radio channel, her website, O Magazine, and soon her own tv network present "teachers" who further instruct her students in the new spirituality. Eckhart Tolle is as spiritually dangerous as they come.
Excerpt from "A New Earth Awakening to Your Life's Purpose"

..."The possibility of such a transformation has been the central message of the great wisdom teachings of humankind. The messengers—Buddha, Jesus, and others, not all of them known—were humanity's early flowers."...
..."Is humanity more ready now than at the time of those early teachers? Why should this be so? What can you do, if anything, to bring about or accelerate this inner shift?..."As you read, a shift takes place within you."
"This book’s main purpose is not to add new information or beliefs to your mind or to try to convince you of anything, but to bring about a shift in consciousness, that is to say, to awaken."...
"It can only awaken those who are ready. Not everyone is ready yet, but many are, and with each person who awakens, the momentum in the collective consciousness grows, and it becomes easier for others."...". A glimpse is enough to initiate the awakening process, which is irreversible. For some, that glimpse will come while reading this book."

A New Earth: Awakening to Your Life's Purpose. Copyright © 2005 by Eckhart Tolle

To read more of the excerpt:
Something you might want to look into:

Oprah's worldwide classroom teaching from her new favorite book, " A New Earth" by Eckhart Tolle.
Sorry, here is the right link:
Well, most of us have been warning for YEARS that the global warming crowd would use this as an excuse to get greater control over OUR lives, and here is a salvo over our heads; if ABC news is bothered by Bill Clinton’s remarks you can bet it is a threat to you. Since I felt in my heart for at least 10 years that Hillary would be President, I’ll hold to it. If it is Obama or the new BIG MAC, it might not be too much different. As I’ve tried to warn people: Sin excluded “War is the greatest polluter.” As Christians we understand the end will come with the Prince of Peace, but oh, the tears!

Bill Clinton:
"We just have to slow down our economy and cut back our greenhouse gas emissions 'cause we have to save the planet for our grandchildren."
"And maybe America, and Europe, and Japan, and Canada -- the rich counties -- would say, 'OK, we just have to slow down our economy and cut back our greenhouse gas emissions 'cause we have to save the planet for our grandchildren.' We could do that.
"But if we did that, you know as well as I do, China and India and Indonesia and Vietnam and Mexico and Brazil and the Ukraine, and all the other countries will never agree to stay poor. . .”
Oh, if you didn’t notice the phrase “stay poor.” That means get America poor.
I understand that Rich and Farmer are on to all of this, but I wonder why the “pretty” girls are the FOCUS of this web site greeting! Years ago I pointed out to my sons that New York, New York was primarily Lawyers and Advertisers, and so much money can buy your mind; look out, the AOC knows this.
Yes, all in good fun, but try as I might to
lighten up my own day, the truth that is
being exposed here is anything but funny.
In fact if I didn't have all my trust in Jesus
I would be a basket case.

Re. Setterman's posted link:

Look at the map, top left. The logo appears to highlight an area in Mexico just south of El Paso, Texas.

Wonder if it might have any relation to the following article:

In any case, very odd, to say the least.

Have a nice day.

A fellow watchwoman
P.S. Note the one and only green "v" in the logo [No doubt, a not-so-subtle hint re. support of the man-caused global warming movement, dislike of America and sign for "victory" (not).]
I have tried accessing Johnny's gold article and Settermans aocmediafund article and keep getting 'not found'. Anyone else having trouble?

"if I didn't have all my trust in Jesus I would be a basket case."

My new motto--thanks Paul!
Charlotte- Try going to Johnny's blog spot, you can access it there.
"51 Reasons To Say "NO" to Global Governance"


I picked up a Wall Street Journal yesterday, and the ad on the Global Bank Gold Suppresion Scheme
did run. Settermans link worked fine for me, but if your're still having a problem, do a "search" with the words "Alliance of Civilizations Media Fund" (AOCMF) Great info Setterman and everyone. Rudi
Regarding Setterman's aocmediafund article, I used Scroogle Scraper to find the webpage, copy and pasted the address link into the search box.

The Logo is the same type as all the other logos with this crowd, a stylized all seeing eye, the point within a circle, etc. Corresponds to the Hindu
mark on the foreheads of those "pretty girls".

The info on the website is scary to say the least. Symbols are all important to these people, and noticing the map location shows you have a good eye anonymous 10:57.
Anonymous 11:03:
Thanks for mentioning USNORTHCOM.
I'm not sure if I understand the question you asked, "Anyone know why NorthCom moved out of the mountain in Denver??? Pls let me know."
US Northern Command History:

"USNORTHCOM is co-located with NORAD headquarters at Peterson Air Force Base in Colorado Springs, Colo. The headquarters site was chosen based on several considerations, such as military effectiveness, existing facilities, location, force protection, infrastructure and costs. The secretary of defense approved the command's location after an environmental impact study was conducted in June 2002."

US Northern Command History

I've been paying attention and learning about the "policing and militarization" happening over in the EU, and not being aware of what has been taking place under our own noses in the United States of America.Everyone should do some reading at the website of our own United States Northern Command. If you do, make sure to read the "NORAD and USNORTHCOM Vision 2020" paper. -Rudi
“A Gateway to Other Worlds”.

An anonymous post mentioned some interesting facts regarding Denver. A web search regarding the various “conspiracy theories” floating around Denver International Airport turns up all kinds of interesting, albeit sinister allegations, from a hub that will soon be used in conjunction with mass human extermination, to a hide out for aliens living deep underground. While such allegations are indeed alarming, the evidence is always elusive and the ideas easily dismissed as lunatic fringe.

However, numerous websites do show photographs of the all too familiar Masonic capstone plaque located at one end of the Jeppesen terminal building, a massive structure that also happens to be called, “The Great Hall”. This particular Masonic plaque should be of interest to bloggers here, because it commemorates the edifice as constructed in conjunction with the “New World Airport Commission”.

Fuel was added to the Denver Airport conspiracies by the amount of public criticism leveled at the artwork incorporated into the public areas. The airport terminal is indeed loaded with occultic and/or pagan images. The Tanguma murals do in fact depict the murder and/or genocide of particular people groups, i.e. “man’s inhumanity to man”. The artist himself has discussed this topic in depth.

But there’s always another angle to consider when evaluating conspiracy theories.
By using Google maps on satellite setting one notices some very peculiar things about the design of this airport, which incidentally covers some 50 square miles. On satellite setting, play with the zoom button until you clearly see the “alien face”. The Jeppesen Terminal is centered between the alien’s eyes. Then look for the Masonic Compass clearly visible located slightly below the terminal. The swastika layout of the runways is also clearly visible. Coincidence, or planning? Message, or imagination? You decide.

The airport’s official website contains a video tour called “DIA ART”. The video refers to the airport as, ‘A gateway to other worlds, in more ways than one”. Perhaps there really is something to those conspiracy theories after all.
Hi oldmanoftheski,
Have you heard about the book "Dark Mission - The Secret Mission of NASA" by Richard C. Hoagland and Mike Bara? Without a doubt Hoagland would be counted among and highly regarded in "New Age" "New Spirituality" circles. I was intrigued enough to purchase this book and am in the process of reading it. What I've been curious about, has been, what would motivate a man such as Hoagland, with his own metaphysical, torsion physics, "extraterrestrial mindset" and New Age worldview to
"expose" the "secret society", "ascended masters", "occultic history" of NASA. What's gotten Hoagland so worked up about NASA that he had to write a 548 page book about it?
The first 80 or so pages were related to physics (too much information and way over my head)but by Chapter three it becomes VERY interesting. No further comment on this book until I finish, but I think I've figured out where he's going and from a "end times" Christian viewpoint I'm aghast. -Rudi

I checked out your google satellite instructions- very perceptive too! Following a hunch, I typed in New World into the map finder, and I was surprised to find so many places in Colorado with New World in the title. When they start shipping us all off to the "new world" I guess we know where that is...

However, this came up and I figured you all would be interested in looking,

International Center for Dialogue among Civilizations becomes...

National Center for Globalization Studies

Look at what Iran's president had to say about it

Definatly sounds to me like a merging of New Age and Islam, all tied through the "dialog among Civilizations" theme.


I checked out the info on the Seattle meeting of Richard Hoagland-

Unfortunatly I will be unable to go- it is far too expensive for me Tickets are $12 ea for general admission and $55 ea additionally to see Richard Hoagland. I was expecting that he was speaking a a bookstore or

Also- I can't justify putting money into the "premier paranormal and metaphysical event" of the year

Here is the ad for the psychic spectrum expo:
"In creating the Psychic Spectrum Expo's, we have continued the work of Skip and Sharon Leingang, to teach the whole spectrum of the paranormal and metaphysical world. It is the intent of The Spectrum Events, LLC to keep this formatting and to bring you an event that will allow the learning of multiple aspects of this fascinating realm of spirituality.

We come under the belief that these gifts of spirituality are open to all humanity, many do not understand how to use these gift's from the Universal Creator. That is the underlying purpose we offer, to understand, accept and incorporate that which is right for you the individual, within your own belief system. The Spectrum Events, LLC does not espouse or endorse a set belief system."

Sorry, I will just have to miss out on this one.

I ask about Denver and NorthCom.

Heard about tunnels or underground complex at Denver airport also.

What I read was the NorthCom commander had to drive in traffic to the underground facility and it took him too long out of the loop. He doesn't have a cell phone? It was a dumb reason.

My guess would be there are going to be two US capitals after the super 8 lane highway is built.

If the economy falls, read bird flu and dollar, this would set up the senario for NAU plus.

google: black swans England bird flu.

Denver is a New Age haven in spades as one of the major grid crossing lines is there or whatever their called.


Tony Blair wants to be President of Europe.
FBI website says nothing about headquarters moving to Denver, in fact, it states that their address in still ... Pennsylvania ave, Washington DC and the building is under renovations

the Denver FBI office has not recently relocated either.

SO, I am not sure about the information relating to Denver being our second capital, not saying it isn't true, but I did an internet search on it too, and turned up nothing. Would love for someone to verify that story.

The Lisbon Treaty is not a done deal--the Irish electorate can be fickle. Here is an interesting interview from the leader of the group Libertas, who is opposing the treaty:
There have been numerous articles posted on many sights regardignd North Com, its movement, Shain (spelling?) mountain, and also Denver airport. One place to dig (among many)for some info is on Worlnetdaily - in their archives.
The Denver airport and its masonic trappings have been out there before it was even constructed - and more after pertaining to the murals and also the various plaques, but it is good info to have and also understand.

Looks to me like Eckhart Tolle is parroting the exact same things I have read in my research over the years from, inter alia (among others):

1. David Spangler
2. Barbara Marx Hubbard
3. Marilyn Ferguson
4. Donald Neale Walsch
5. Fritjof Capra
6. Peter Russell

Etc., ad nauseum. Except he says it far slower and boringly. The New Age sheeple (oops, people) sit there slavishly acting like he is proclaiming wisdom.

I am just waiting for some little child among them to say, BUT HE ISN'T WEARING ANYTHING!

Truly the emperor is wearing no clothes.

Boy, Lucifer must have unmitigated contempt for his own people to subject them to Eckhart Tolle. Maybe he's thinking about the 1000 years he's going to have to endure chained up and he wants his own people to perceive time passing so slowly -- because if you want to make a little bit of time seem like a very long piece of time, listen to Eckhart Tolle.

Didn't mean to make light of anything so serious, and it is serious, but Eckhart Tolle surely shows how dangerously pliable the New Age masses have become. I pray that little kid will soon go, "But he isn't wearing anything" and people will snap out of their dangerous trances!

Rudi, 1:56

"Have you heard about the book "Dark Mission - The Secret Mission of NASA" by Richard C. Hoagland and Mike Bara?"

No, but I went to and read some of the 56 reviews, so I have a pretty good ideas what's in it. Can't wait to hear your perspective.

I've been spending way too much time on You Tube looking at many of the videos under catagory, "Secrets of Google Earth" or "Hidden Places of Google Earth". There's a wide range of quality among these popular videos but overall it's simply amazing the diversity of occult symbolism visible with this technology, with several interesting triangle patterns highlighted in our American Southwest alone. But a warning here, along with the crop circles and triangles, there's also some obscenity written in them thar hills. I'll try to post links to some of the best.

I wonder if anybody saw my ski tracks today.
Best You Tube Google Earth videos

The person posting as, RobRock07, incorporates map coordinates in some of his videos, which makes the images verifiable. Start with these…

And if you have Google Earth installed, try finding these yourself, under view, click on grid, then use your mouse...

35 25' 24.97" N
103 6' 37.19" W


61 17'58.92 N
149 37'25.62" W

Just a sample of what's visible from above.
Well, I've continued learning about Google Earth... the strange image from those Alaska coordinates appear to be sat map fragments, a relic of the stitching together of several photos. However, there are enough genuine items to keep one interested.
HK-91 says:

If you want the latest up to date info on Richard Hoagland here's a link.

I think you all might find the video interviews with him on youtube rather interesting. It is a 3 part interview. He mentions a scholar whom he recently has met who's research focuses on the Nazi connection.
When one thinks between the lines of this info combined with what is available here and on Rich, Farmer, et all links, it raises some rather fascinating scenarios.

HK-91 says:
"If you want the latest up to date info on Richard Hoagland here's a link."

Hi HK-91-
I have since regreted asking oldmanoftheski about the Richard C. Hoagland book in this forum as it seems to have attracted too much attention to Hoagland. As I said in my comment to oldmanoftheski, Hoagland is highly regarded in "New Age" "New Spirituality" circles. This tells me to use extreme caution and great discernment in anything he has to say. His beliefs and views are going to reflect his own point of reference which is not from the perspective of the truth of the Word of God. I mentioned him and the book and my interest in it from the perspective of my being curious about his motivation (knowing that his own worldview draws from the same well )for writing about the occult history of NASA. Him writing the book is like the pot calling the kettle black. I'm sorry if I led you or others on the board to think I was recommending Hoagland as a good resource for truth. The Project Camelot site which you've given the link for has the potential to lead the curious into some dangerous territory. The website owners are directly involved in another website called "Wingmakers" which is designed specifically to give "guidance" transmitted by beings who, "incarnate as humans from time-to-time in order to bring its teachings directly to humanity." That means demonic entities.
Again, I apologize if I came across as recommending Richard Hoagland as a resource. There are much better, spiritually safer places to look for information. -Rudi
HK-91 says...


Thanks for the responce about Hoagland. I agree with your comments on him, that is why, I qualified my comment with using information from here, and of course as always from the scriptures, as a filter to what Hoagland presents.

My point is that he is in a sense the "point man" for the science front. What the NA'gers are looking for as a "scholarly expert" to back up their lie with " science", in effect to use him as a resource for credibility. I did not in any way mean it to be an endorsement of his point of view.

He is merely another aspect of the all encompassing agenda, albeit a crucial one since his appeal is to, in a large part, the scientific/atheistic/agnostic community.

As always those not familiar with him should keep in mind that he is promoting a NA agenda, that cannot be stressed too often.

Thanks for your response.

HK-91, Rudi,

Ditto. Hoagland is just another angle, another node on the web, albeit an interesting one to discuss at this time. I'm certainly not going to go out and buy his book.

Many of the websites, links, and discussion listed here open doorways to the occult, so we should be used to it by now. All this is stuff that should be strengthening our capacity for discernment and giving us critical thinking practice. If we keep ourselves grounded in our faith, no worries. But that's a big "if". I agree it is very important to point out the risks from time to time. Our enemy should not be under estimated. The job, as I see it, is to stay awake and help others to wake up. Good job all you bloggers here!
This does not actually pertain to this particular subject, but I can't find the one it does pertain to, so maybe the appropriate person will read this and be able to help me. I believe it was "douginmi" that commented on the White House document regarding the president's ability to remain in power due to an emergency situation and stated that it was 7 years in duration. I can't find that now and not sure if I read that right. If that is the case, could I get more clarification on that 7 year timeframe? Any help would be appreciated.
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