Thursday, September 01, 2005

Solana - more to China with love from EU

JAVIER SOLANA FORGING AHEAD ON EU DECISION TO LIFT ARMS BAN TO CHINA

China and Russia recently engaged in joint maneuvers designed "to send a message to the United States". One of my very recent blogs discussed this. USA attention is, of course, focused on the very terrible Gulf coast tragedy which has all but destroyed New Orleans. Javier Solana issues congratulations and condolences to just about everybody for anything. I have yet to see a word of sympathy from his quarters for the terrible disaster. Even Venezuela's Chavez made offers to send oil and food.

But nevertheless, Javier Solana has been, as usual, very busy. What has he been busy with? Among other things, the Gaza strip, Iran and China.

One may be certain that he did not view with distress a recent call from a major Iranian paper in a country that decidedly does not have a free press, that Iran should cease bargaining over their nuclear issues with France, Germany, and Great Britain. They should negotiate, said the paper, solely with Solana because he alone represents all 25 EU countries! Undoubtedly, that paper was giving the official Iranian government line.

Next, Solana is forging ahead with his controversial plans to lift the arms ban on China. According to a news posted today:

BRUSSELS : The European Union reassured China that it was pressing ahead with plans to lift a 15-year-old arms embargo on Beijing despite a storm sparked by its anti-secession law targeting Taiwan. EU foreign policy chief Javier Solana said the controversial law, which authorizes the use of force if Taipei moves towards independence, had caused "complicated atmospherics" around the debate over the EU arms ban. But the EU plans remain on track, he said after talks with Chinese Foreign Minister Li Zhaoxing in Brussels. http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/afp_asiapacific/view/137950/1/.html

Vintage Solana double talk. "Complicated atmospherics"? Severe hurricanes can have names other than "Katrina" -- maybe "Solana"?

As Herb Peters says it, "stay tuned." As usual, I invite your comments.

97 comments:

Anonymous said...

Constance you are doing a major battle at the international level, one that no one else is doing. I would suggest that anyone reading this blog ask their friends and acquaintences if they know who Javier Solana is. Ninty-eight percent won't know who he is. I found one person in the last several years who even heard of the name. We are so dumbed down.

It is my belief that this blog is the only one dealing with the spread of the New Age movement which includes both the political and religious aspects.

If any who are reading this are politically astute, they will have heard that Newt Gingrich is making a move toward the presidency. This is part of a larger New Age movement here in the US. Gingrich is a major New Age politician. I just came across a serious blog which seems to endorse this New Age concept. Those more academically inclined will find this information of value: http://www.usprogressiveconservatives.blogspot.com/

Anonymous said...

I can't tell you how many people I meet that think that I'm somehow re-telling a fairy tale about a fictional character in another world. I also tell them the facts about all the white papers, agreements, policy statements, etc. only to watch their eyes glaze over and comments like, "really", or, "you need to chill, relax". I had one guy (buisness owner) tell me that he enjoyed being ignorant about the world situation and argued with me that the European Union is all about coal and trade. I gave him Constance's power-presentation CD, almost begged him to watch, he kept it a week and refused to look at it stating that he would not believe the information no matter what it said. I've been warning people, delivering detailed information packets to churches throughout the area and all have ignored the work and concern, at times I felt like I was the one under the microscope. I've lost friends and am considered a bummer at events because I feel that there is a monster about to eat them and they will not move from their ignorance. I finally had to calm myself and just accept that even though they have ears they will not hear the message describing where we are in the Biblical end times. God bless all that to spread the word (of course the Love of Jesus is the most important) but be prepared to be ridiculed and marginalized until Jesus comes and removes us. We're going home soon!

Anonymous said...

I believe God's going to pour out His Spirit before we are taken. Our church has had prayer meetings since 1992, and we've had prophetic words given to us that revival has begun in the northwest. (Lord, how we need it!) He'll equip us, embolden us by the power of His Spirit for his kingdom, so while we're looking up, remember we've got a job to do!

Anonymous said...

to the second anonymous,

I have been doing just what you've been doing in trying to tell people but like your experience, they refuse to listen. And yes, like your one experience of the person who came right out and stated that they wish not to know, I've had those same words said to me.

And, oh boy do I know what it's like to be an outcast and considered a bummer all because I'm trying to tell them, warn them and show them out of the Bible and the news God's Truth about these last days.

Know you're not alone--there are many of us and will be many more. Rejoice when men revile you and cast you out because of the Name of Jesus Christ and His Truth! Sometime read Peter, I believe it's 2nd Peter.

Keep up the good work, someday it will pay off. God will reward you!

Anonymous said...

Thanks I needed that! The Joy of knowing that my Brother is coming soon to take me to see my Father is overwhelming, yet there is a melancholy; desperation that floods my heart knowing what I (and you) know. Come soon Dear Jesus!

Anonymous said...

And if the end is 200 years away, what will you tell your maker that you did during your lifetime to help your neighbor? Christianity and Judaism are not spectator sports.

I hope to heavens I am wrong and you are not swooningly waiting for the end to happen. Perhaps I am wrong and you are just overwhelmingly tired from all of the good you are attempting to do for the world around you. And no, I'm not being sarcastic. I've been there. Maybe I've just gotten cynical after hearing from so many people that they don't have to do anything because they are living in end times and believing in Jesus is all that is required of them. The reality is that no one knows when the end times will be and for the last 2000 years someone has been predicting end times.

I am overwhelmed by the efforts of so many people who have acted responsibly to help their neighbors after Katrina. Good, decent, responsible, charitable, intelligent, capable, risk taking, sharing, helping, forward thinking individuals who just didn't sit back and say nothing can be done, we are living in end times. Personally I feel incredibly insipid watching them in action, feeling there must be some way I can help other than a contribution.

Anonymous said...

Good for you! I hope you don't allow your guilt, for not doing enough keep you from doing more! Some of us are disabled and are have trouble doing as much as a healthy person can, but to assume that a person who celebrates the coming of Jesus is somehow negligent in doing what he or she can is insulting (I'm not looking for sympathy). Hopefully you won't be as kind to the people you help. God bless you in your efforts and my prayers do go out for you no matter. Thanks for caring what my Jesus and I will care to discuss when I go home. I think the discussion could be filled with ways I could have been a better person, stronger and maybe a little more eloquent, but you know, maybe he will say, "Well done my good and faithful servant", I pray at least for a smile and a guided tour around the beauty of his imagination.
I believe there is a verse somewhere that states something about folks who talk about the 2000 year statement you just made. Maybe you'll look it up, but on a personal note my Grandfather stated that the countdown began when Israel was established. Tick, Tock.

Anonymous said...

Annonymous, don't assume I'm young and healthy because you would be wrong. Please know that my comments were not meant for you alone but were addressed to everyone who reads here. You just gave me an opening to state my feelings regarding the general laziness of the public when it comes to doing more than just reading about changes taking place. Excuses are easy to come by for people who take no action.

Anonymous said...

Judgement is also something that needs to be tempered. Just because a thought runs through your mind does not mean it should be shared. Maybe your thoughts come out of disappointment with your family, who knows what sponsors mean words but I know a general spewing of venom does no good and your words show quickly your concern. Go with God. Love your neighbor. Remember that Jesus said all are his brothers, sisters and mothers. Be joyful. Jesus comes soon.

Anonymous said...

Over at EUreferendum, linked on the first page, there is a piece called Double Standards. It deals with the lack of help being offered by countries around the world when we need help.
"...In the wake of the unprecedented disaster occasioned by Hurricane Katrina, however, I cannot trace a single statement of sympathy from the EU, despite the massive loss of life and appalling damage. Barroso, Solana and even the fragrant Margot seem not to have noticed. Although Queen Elizabeth II has offered her sympathy on behalf of the UK, there does not appear to have been an official statement from Tony Blair on behalf of the EU presidency. American lives, it seems, don't matter to the EU...."

Also check out the One London blog linked there which comments on lack of same.

Anonymous said...

After putting in over 25 years of research on the New Age movement which took money, time, effort, all of which I could not afford, and having shared information all those years without asking for anything in return, I feel I have a right to state what I see is a major problem in fighting the New Age movement. Constance would be the first to admit that she has worked with others over the years who have provided leads and she has given leads in return. Everyone's efforts are useful.

Anyone reading these comments who has the use of a computer can do research on the New Age movement and put it here. None of us know when a new piece of information will provide a breakthru for others. Some are at the first stages of knowledge and others have many years of information gathering behind them. Evaerything helps.

Anonymous said...

"First of all you must understand that in the last days scoffers will come, scoffing and following their own evil desires. They will say, "Where is this 'coming' He promised? Ever since our fathers died, everything goes on as it has since the beginning of creation." But they deliberately forget that long ago by God's word the heavens existed and the earth was formed out of water, and by water. By these waters also the world of that time was deluged and destryoed. By the same word the present heavens and earth are reserved for fire., being kept for the day of judgment and destruction of ungodly men." II Peter 3:3-7
"As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark; and they KNEW NOTHING ABOUT WHAT WOULD HAPPEN UNTIL THE FLOOD CAME AND TOOK THEM ALL AWAY. That is how it will be at the coming of the Son of Man." Matthew 24:37-39

I think these two scriptures might be appropriate for what I'm reading on here right now. Let's understand that Jesus gave us things to note about the last days. And Peter emphasized what the attitudes of the worldly would be.

My husband and I were just commenting on the sad lack of European offers of help for the victims of this last disastrous hurricane. Two members of my own family have had their beautiful homes on the coast of Mississippi destroyed.

The point is that there may be secret revelry going on in the world over how this whole disaster scenario will interrupt our economy and occupy our resources.

And isn't it also a travesty that Mr. Solana has not even blinked an eye over it, but instead has likely been gloating over the recent attention he has received from Russia and China? One has to wonder how France, Britain, and Germany feel about being so shunned.

While we are occupied with the tragedy of a lost city (albeit a greatly immoral place) and valuable seaport, along with a whole coastal area in several states, the EU High Representative is probably seeing a window of opportunity to dig in the fangs even more. That may sound harsh, but when the watchman sleeps or is distracted, shenanigans multiply.

Thanks, Constance, for the eye openers.

And lastly, for those of you working hard to share this news with unwilling hearts--shake the dust off your feet, and pray for opportunities with those who have receptive hearts. There ARE those out there who DO want to know. Spend your time helping them to learn all this, not those whose ears are clogged or who "refuse the truth". But also keep praying for the unreceptive ones. They may yet come to you when they see things happening that they can't explain. I've seen it work. Just DON'T GIVE UP!!

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Constance Cumbey said...

Hey, not to worry, Javier Solana says: STRONGER CHINA GOOD FOR WORLD!

"And a mouth speaking great things". This reminds me of a websearch I made on him on March 21, 1999. I pulled up a speech of him accepting, I believe, the Christian Herter Foreign Policy award He headed NATO back then. He mocked George Washington's advice to the USA to "avoid entangling alliances." It takes a lot of cheek to come to a country and mock the national icons, but that's exactly what Solana did. And now his smiling mouth runs to even greater sayings, telling the world what is good for it "A STRONGER CHINA IS GOOD FOR THE WORLD." Well, one of these days a 200,000,000 man army just might come against his EU army and might Solana say then??

Read all about it here:

http://english.people.com.cn/200509/01/eng20050901_205816.html


Stay tuned!

Anonymous said...

Solana offers oil to USA!

"NEWPORT (Reuters) - European Union countries are ready to give the United States oil if it requests help after Hurricane Katrina, EU foreign policy chief Javier Solana said on Friday.

"We are in contact with them and whatever they ask for they will be given, from reserves of oil that different countries have provided, to any other thing that they may need," Solana told reporters on arriving for the second day of an EU foreign ministers' meeting, which discussed aid after the disaster.

His comment appeared to contradict British Foreign Secretary Jack Straw, who told reporters that was not what the EU ministers had in mind. Straw said they were considering disaster relief and humanitarian aid rather than oil, for which there was an international market.

© Reuters 2005. All Rights Reserved. "

http://today.reuters.com/News/newsArticle.aspx?type=businessNews&storyID=2005-09-02T085933Z_01_DIT232387_RTRIDST_0_BUSINESS-WEATHER-KATRINA-EU-SOLANA-DC.XML

Anonymous said...

Hey, you don't suppose we're influencing EU policy here on this little board, do you?

Anonymous said...

I wonder if Solana visit ths blog? will he be amused or furious?

If he has total power, do you think he will arrest everyone who participate in this blog?

Anonymous said...

Can you imagine him not knowing? I'm pretty sure of this info but welcome clarification on names and other data.
http://duncan.gn.apc.org/echelon-dc.htm
This website takes you into the deep world of Echelon (there are many other websites and an Echelon report on the EU web that you can't read). You may want to read up on Echelon a little but I think the way it goes is that it is against the law (or used to be) to have our own government spying on us normal citizens. In comes the European Union who basically "contracts" the spying for the US government. Now I don't know just how much has changed since the Patriot Act but, they were at one time hooked up into every keystroke of everyones keyboard and as a matter of fact all emitted communications of ANY kind (cell, land lines, CB's you get the picture). So... Of course he knows! Big Brother knows everything! To be honest I think we (the US) started the whole thing back in the late 40's and were caught stealing industrial secrets (for almost 40 years) in the mid 90's. Sleep well!

Anonymous said...

Well, if they're listening, they'll get a whole earful! Maybe they'll be listening closely enough to start getting cautious about Solana rather than citizens watching Solana -- another hurricane prevention measure our government seems to be missing!

David Moore said...

One anonymous person here said, "I wonder if Solana visit ths blog? will he be amused or furious?"

Well I don't know if he has. I doubt it. But I bet he's aware of what Christians think of him and Europe's rise.

Consider Javier Solana's statement in this speech:

"Some of us have criticised the Constitution for sacrificing the nation-state on the altar of European federalism. AND YET SOME AMERICAN NEO-CONSERVATIVES ARE ALSO HOSTILE TO THE CONSTITUTION, PRECISELY BECAUSE THEY SEE IT AS A NEW RISE IN EUROPE'S POWER. How do we explain this paradox?"

AGAIN, is Javier Solana aware of us [Christians], particularly in America? I believe absolutely that he is, and he is not too pleased with us, because some of us, that are on to him, are a VERY REAL thorn in his side. ...not just in America, but in Europe also, and other places abroad. You can download Javier Solana's entire speech by clicking here.

I have read this speech before and I thought these were some mighty proad and boastful words, but ARE NOT the boastful words that would identify him as the antichrist. However, I must acknowledge that this man can really invigorate the spirit and endgender the collective effervescence that he alludes to on a global level when he makes utterances like preserving our "common heritage" (this isn't in the speech, but Herbert Peters' book).
This speech is dripping with his idea of preserving our "common heritage". This man must be a staunch atheist, which explain his Marxist background. Only an atheist has the best potential to call his/herself God. I'm sure his words sound wondeful from the mic, but are scary when really analyzed on paper.

It's frightening. I'm sure some here have read it already, but for those of you who haven't, then you need to devote some time to it and maybe read/reread Part II of Herbert Peters' book Recommendation 666: The Risse of the Beast out of the Sea.

Then also consider this recent report--a report I have strong opinions about, but I will reserve until more time and events come to pass.

The source for the following report is here.

Barroso's last rites for EU charter

'No magic formulae' exist to revive constitution

Nicholas Watt , European editor
Friday September 2, 2005
The Guardian

The last rites were finally delivered to the European Union constitution yesterday when Jose Manuel Barroso, the commission president, declared that there were "no magical formulae" to revive the measure.

In the most pessimistic remarks by a European leader since the rejection of the constitution by French and Dutch voters, Mr Barroso said the EU could survive on existing treaties.

Speaking at the 25th anniversary celebrations of the founding of Solidarity in Poland, he said: "In the foreseeable future we will not have a constitution, that's obvious. I haven't come across any magic formulae that would bring it back to life."

David Moore said...

When Solana says common heritage, I think he means this: The time has come for all of mankind to come together and resolve global differences. We no longer have the luxury of thinking of ourselves as belonging to a particular country or ethnic group. Nationalism no longer has a place in our civilized world. We must pool our resources and work together for the common good (I wrote this somewhat as if I were Solana).

To me this kind of thinking is arrogant, and flies in the face of God.

My question is WHAT is this common good? Who determines what it is? Is it transcendant? Does it judge between men and stands as an absolute or is it relative. I believe the latter is, and will continue to be the case until Christ comes in glory with his saints to put an end to Satan's tyranny. Pursuing a "common good" without acknowledging the existence of God would require a survival of the fittest way of life because ultimately, sacrifices would end up being the cost to maintain the common good. Among the manifold sacrifices that I am thinking of, the worst is genocide.

This postmodern mood that we live in has planted in the hearts of so many, this false notion that if we gather ourselves together and drop our exclusive, dogmatic differences, the world will somehow become utopia. Does anybody listen anymore!? This is one of the most bankrupt and deceiving philsophies ever. This has never worked, and if one just takes a good clear look at what Europe and Solana are up to, he/she would see the futility of Europe's efforts and wonder: "Don't they know this won't work?" "They have to, and if they do, then they are just bent on global domination! For what?! They're making the planet their pet project!" Someone should do a disertation, comparing and contrasting the American Constitution and the draft of the European Constitution. I would guess that it would be an equally enlightening and but also fearful experience.

How on earth, can we end hunger, natural distasters, pestilence, fundamentalism (whatever that means) etc in the name of some utopian pipedream? It appears that there would be two solutions: 1) laissez faire, and/or 2) genocide. IT didn't work for the Third Reich and it won't work for Solana or whoever might actually succeed him if Solana isn't the AC.

Suffice it to say, I just see this European dream leading to a rehashing of a regurgitation of dressed up Hitler-esque ideologies with global pursuits.


Lastly,

We at least know for a fact that pain of death will be the choice of the day. How soon is anybody's guess, but it appears Herbert and Constance are really on to something the more and more I read on the EU.

"He [the beast out of the earth] was granted power to give breath to the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak and cause as many as would not worship the image of the beast to be killed. He causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their foreheads, and that no one may buy or sell except one who has the mark or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. Here is wisdom. Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man: His number is 666" (Rev. 13:18).

Maranatha!

David Moore said...

Sorry the working link for the speech I was referring to is here: http://ue.eu.int/ueDocs/cms_Data/docs/pressdata/EN/discours/84584.pdf

Anonymous said...

Check out on google search terms "ITER" and "Javier Solana" and you might just see something capable of "bringing down fire from heaven in the sight of men." BRRRRR........! ITER (rhymes with bitter) stands for International Thermal Energy Reactor, I believe.

Constance Cumbey said...

ITER stands for, as I understand it, International Thermonuclear Experimental Reactor. The USA, EU, South Korea, Japan, China, and Russia are presently involved. They plan to construct the physical facility in France. Javier Solana is playing a leading role. Interestingly, they refer to it as a "fire from heaven" Prometheus type project.

David Moore said...

Oh, totally off topic...

I live in South Florida, in Broward county and about 630,000 people lost power for about 4 to 6 days. We complained and it was on our local news for the longest time, until the Gulf coastal area was hit by Katrina. We shut our mouths and thank the God of heaven that we only had a category 1 hurricane.

Please pray for New Orlean folks and us, as hurricane season is far from over and there is another in the atlantic!

Thanks,
David

Maranatha

David Moore said...

Interesting, ITER is "technically ready to start construction and the first plasma operation is expected in 2016."

Also, it says that "ITER (pronounced as in "fitter") means 'THE WAY' in Latin."

Can you say weird?

What is Europe's obession with strange acronyms and coded number meanings. Strange region of the world.

David Moore said...

"The Way"?

This project is supposed to create energy that is like the fusion energy of the sun.

Light?

Things that make you go hmmmmm.

Also, at this location--http://www.iter.org/l.htm--there is a list of definitions. Here, there is a slightly different explanation for the word ITER.

"'The Way' in Latin. Formerly interpreted to stand for International Thermonuclear Experiemental Reactor, ALTHOUGH THIS USAGE HAS BEEN DISCONTINUED."

Interesting.

Anonymous said...

Since they play such a terribly interesting game of "now you see us, now you don't", I strongly recommend ARCHIVING all of your research finds to disk. Adobe Acrobat Professional, versions 5.0 upwards is an excellent tool for this. Failing that, doing a save from Microsoft Explorer in ".mht" format choice works, but slower. SAVE IT, you may never see it again otherwise!

Anonymous said...

News Brief
The three ITER-related facilities would be located in Rokkasho, Aomori Prefecture,
and....... ... EU foreign policy chief Javier Solana said Wednesday.... ...
press.jrc.it/NewsBrief/alertedition/en/ITER.html - Similar pages

EUbusiness - Japan ready to discuss site of ITER nuclear reactor: EU
"Japan has agreed to discuss the possibility of having ITER in Europe, ...
news conference with EU leaders including foreign policy chief Javier Solana. ...
www.eubusiness.com/Energy/050502133750.z3uiom0s - 32k - Cached - Similar pages

EUROPA - José Manuel Barroso, President of the European Commission ...
Le projet ITER à Cadarache, en France, va attirer les meilleurs chercheurs ...
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Javier Solana. The 25-member EU wants the ITER to be built in France, and has
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Anonymous said...

CRITICISM OF THE FUSION ENERGY RESEARCH PROGRAM
Greek god Prometheus brought fire from Heaven to the Earth to benefit the ...
The real question is: What does ITER working mean for fusion utility energy? ...
www.geocities.com/bibhasde/fusion.html - 42k - Cached - Similar pages

Constance Cumbey said...

Curiously, one of the things Benjamin Creme used to say in his speeches and books that "Maitreya" was working for was "fusion energy" and sometimes "cold fusion."

Constance Cumbey said...
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For example, check this:

"A new science will be given to the world. Maitreya calls it the Technology or the Science of Light. This will provide all power needed on earth. This energy will come directly from the sun, and of course its implementation will transform life on earth. No one will be able to corner the power of the future. The oil kings and sheiks will lose their power, as will those who control the gas and electricity, and above all the nuclear power stations of the world. The Masters call the nuclear power stations evil expressions of the greed and misuse of the power of man, and they advise their immediate closing.
"There is a very simple fusion process using a simple isotope in water which is abundant throughout the planet which will give us unlimited, safe, fusion energy. And that could be an interim process to the technology of light. We shall lift 30-foot stones and deposit them to wherever we are building buildings that need that size, and we will do it by sound."

Pasted from http://www.ratbags.com/ranters/bencreme001005.htm
9/5/2005, 10:07 AM

David Moore said...

That's eery Constance

Is there any new age use of the phrase "The Way" outside of the the non-christian cult THE WAY INTERNATIONAL?

And, has Maitreya made any direct reference to the phrase?

Also, is Maitreya a real human being or a human being possessed by a demon? I've only read a little bit about this person/being, and he is said to be alive and already started his earthly "ministry".


David

Anonymous said...

Great point Constance.

Revelation:
13:13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,

13:14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.

First, nuclear physics has an occult aspect to it, being things of deep and hidden knowledge. The chap/vrs number of 13:13 is a strong hint that something deeply occultic is referred to here. Prometheus is a type of both the anti-christ, and even more of Lucifer (light-bearer) himself. Thus, a 'Promethean' project is literally a 'Luciferian' project. And we can be assured the people of the occult are very aware of the meaning of the expression.

Refer to the two verses above. It is by the means of the 'fire from heaven' trick, and other metaphysical 'miracles' that he will 'deceive' the people of the world, and thus lead them to 'worship' the image of the beast. It is then that he goes on and causes all those who will not worship the image of the beast to be killed, and then produces the mark of the beast without which no man may buy or sell.

What I am trying to point out is that it appears that the key to all this control over the minds of mankind will be the deception of this magick trick of 'fire from heaven'. The revelation refers to it as a deception. I think what is implied is an illusion of occult magick. (remember the pharoahs magicians used occult or demonic powers of illusion)

What I think? They will never devise a genuine scientific process. They will become impatient, and long before 2016 they will resort to their magick display to delude mankind. ITER will be lit to show mankind the way. Tricks and lies - satan's favorite game.

Anonymous said...

Solana says EU still wants to lift China arms ban

http://www.swisspolitics.org/en/
news/index.php?section=int&page=news_inhalt&news_id=6065231

http://www.swisspolitics.org/en/
news/index.php?section=int&page=
news_inhalt&news_id=6065231

Anonymous said...

I wonder if the HAARP project will be used to impact the thoughts of people throughout the world for the purpose of the anti-christ? Rev. 13 v.16 Amplified version uses the word "compels". A book called "Angels don't play this HAARP" discusses the mind influences of this powerful tool in Alaska. HAARP home page is http://www.haarp.alaska.edu/ Anybody got any ideas or comments?

Anonymous said...

Don't know if Javier plays the harp cum haarp, but of this, I'm sure: HE AIN'T NO ANGEL!

Constance Cumbey said...

ITER is also, apparently, a double acronym referring to the same thing. It also stands for "International Tokomak Experimental Reactor".

See, e.g.
http://focusfusion.org/now.html

Anonymous said...

Correction on the spelling, it is "Tokamak" -- a google search on "Javier Solana" and "Tokamak" yields much!

Anonymous said...

http://www.ocweekly.com/ink/02/24/cover-brin.php

Here is an article from 2002 showing the Crystal Cathedral’s Reverend Robert H. Schuller had contacts with White Supremacists same as Constance said about Pat Robertson and the Liberty Lobby and others. New Age Reverend Schuller?

http://www.townhall.com/columnists/GuestColumns/Crouse20050903.shtml
John Bolton’s pen begins U.N. cleanup
The above article says Bolton has started quite well at the UN. Hope he continues to get support he will need. Someone needs to straighten out the New Age mess at the UN.

http://cumbey.blogspot.com/2005_04_24_cumbey_archive.html
Here is the article about Bolton where Constance said IF THE NEW AGERS ARE THAT MUCH AGAINST HIM, HE MUST BE DOING SOMETHING RIGHT.

Anonymous said...

Galileo 2008: EU India China Israel
plus "ITER"reactor (!)

"...The Galileo satellite positioning and navigation services system project is a joint initiative of the EU and the European Space Agency and is being positioned as a rival to the US Global Positioning System.

Conceptualised in 1999, the Galileo programme is likely to cost 3.4 billion euros when it becomes operational in 2008. China and Israel have already signed for the project.

The action plan also covers other areas of mutual cooperation like climate change, science and technology, enhanced parliamentary exchanges, greater people to people contacts and dialogue related to migration and consular access.

Manmohan Singh thanked the EU for being positive towards India's participation in the International Thermonuclear Experimental Reactor (ITER), designed to build a fusion reactor by pooling scientific and financial resources involving the US, European Union, Russia, South Korea, China, Japan and Switzerland. ..."
from:
http://indiamonitor.com/news/readNews.jsp?ni=8575

Anonymous said...

Greetings;

The Eu, China, and all nations are following the will of the Lord. He gave the command for the nations to prepare for war and get military equipment. Let the weak nations say that I am strong. Prepare for a great battle, east vs west, then the ultimate battle man vs GOD.

Joel 3:9 Proclaim ye this among the Gentiles; Prepare war, wake up the mighty men, let all the men of war draw near; let them come up:

10: Beat your plowshares into swords, and your pruninghooks into spears: let the weak say, I am strong.

11: Assemble yourselves, and come, all ye heathen, and gather yourselves together round about: thither cause thy mighty ones to come down, O LORD.

12: Let the heathen be wakened, and come up to the valley of Jehoshaphat: for there will I sit to judge all the heathen round about.

14: Multitudes, multitudes in the valley of decision: for the day of the LORD is near in the valley of decision.

Rv 16:12 And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared.

16: And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.

Peace in the Name of the Great God
Jesus.

ozell

Anonymous said...

David (aka John 14:6 screen name),

On one of your posts you had said this statement in part:

"Among the manifold sacrifices that I am thinking of, the worst is genocide."

EXACTLY! I had posted a few months back, if that long about the sit-in or protest going on in Tennessee Governors office. This protest is because the Governor Brednesen (sp?) had, as of July 31, 2005, taken away all TennCare from every single person in Tennessee.

The majority of people on this TennCare (much like our Medicaid) were disabled, working poor and also seniors. Many of these people, including myself only I do not presently live in Tennessee, cannot live without their medications and treatments.

Without these medications and treatments, they die. A mass Genocide--an entire state of the downtrodden being singled out for Death.

I posted it as a warning of what was happening in our world, yes even here in the United States, to warn others. However, that post was not taken very seriously as far as I was concerned.

Terri Schindler Schiavo was the "test" case to see how the world would react and how quickly the world would forget also.

Once she was no longer talked about in the media, nor in the Churches, this evil Government (all governments prophesied in the Bible) then worked their evil on Tennessee. Yet not many paid much mind to the implications of what was happening in the United States and around the globe.

I am disabled and live in California. Recently I recieved a notice that two of my life sustaining medications were being taken off of the "covered" list by MediCal. To afford them is beyond my means of income per month. This is effective beginning January 2006.

Tennessee is not the only state. There are others that are now seeing just how easy it is to get away with this. And under the guise of "Budget" they are beginning to do away with the poor, the disabled, the working poor, the seniors, babies and so on. We are the expendable masses that this new age ideology is beginning with.

Just like Hitler, he too, began with the Mentally Handicapped, then the Physically Handicapped and eventually to anyone considered "useless eaters" and of course eventually God's Chosen, the Jews.

For years now I've tried to bring all this to the attention of the Christian Church and on many forums I was banned or so despised by their reactions that I was asked not to post these realities of what was happening to this group of people. And it would be the moderators of those "Christian" forums asking me not to speak of these things. Supposedly, according to their words, "it was beyong the scope of their forum" or "beyond the pale."

It has been a real nightmare being a person who is disabled and not having Christians who cared. And I warned them that just because this is beginning with us, the disabled, the poor, the seniors, the working poor et al, it will by no means end there.

Yet, they will not listen for it is not affecting them and they remain silent when it comes to standing up for us.

I know, I've been living this truth and how lonely it is as a Christian when I see these things happening plus all that Constance and Herb are bringing to our attention to have the Christians turn their backs on me and those like me.

Now with the hurricanes and the Haarp and Scalary Weaponry (weather warfare), this too is not allowed on many Christian websites. Not only all these things are many (not all) Christian websites despising the talk of but they are despising anything I may post that is showing them what the E.U. is doing. And high profile "christians" like Pat Robertson and others in how they are all part of this evil system of things. Just as we were warned in God's Word--the many false prophets coming in in sheeps clothing but are in reality wolves.

Needless to say, it was refreshing to see your post that came out and named "Genocide" as a reality.

I want to thank you, among the many others, especially Constance and Herb for speaking of these truths. And now I'm hoping too that even though this is a site that primaries on the E.U., that we all realize that the Church is "one" and let us not be silent in our congregations or on Christian forums regarding all of these truths being posted, including mine, of just how far this apostacy has come and how close we are to seeing the "man of lawlessness" spoken of by the Prophet Daniel 9:24-27 and Jesus Christ pointing us back to this "abomination who causes desolation" in Matthew 24. Jesus points us to the book of Daniel. Jesus Christ also says through the Apostle Paul that before Jesus Christ comes, that FIRST we will see this apostacy AND the "man of sin" BEFORE Jesus Christ comes.

We are told to watch and I fear as many on this board do with me, that our Churches simply do not want to hear what we here are talking about and if they do hear it, they deny it or shun us. As those we are nuts.

Yet, like yourself, myself and all the others on this board, we see, we acknowledge, we research, we want to know more and we try to warn others.

May God Bless you David for speaking what so many are afraid to acknowledge, believing it can't happen here.

In Christ Jesus of Nazareth.

KEEP THE FAITH that was once delivered!

your sister.

P.S. I realize that my writing style is somewhat scrambled but that is all part and parcel of one of my disabilities and am praying for Christian understanding if some of this is somewhat scrambled.

Anonymous said...

Here are some links to information regarding Weather Warfares in these last days.

It is bad enough how the E.U. is doing without much notice in our Churches but this Weather Warfare is another factor that is very frightening. It goes along with the ITER and the Fire Coming From the Skies that is prophesied in these last days.

We really need to open peoples eyes---IF THEY ARE WILLING, THAT IS. A sad truth is that most Christians do not want to know. They want to go around telling people how much Jesus loves them and stick to that. Yet as Ozell has posted God's Word tells us of these last days and the dreaded wars and the Valley of Jehosaphat.

"...All these things..." Jesus Says. When Jesus Christ says "ALL" He means "ALL."

a few links:

http://www.weatherwars.info/katrina.htm

http://twm.co.nz/beard_weapon.htm

This next one has several links within it:

http://www.fourwinds10.com/news/12-science-tech/D-new-technology/2003/12D-03-22-03-tesla-dome-for-baghdad.html

Now those are some regarding Scalar Weapons. Here's some about the HAARP System: This first one takes a minute to load, so give it a few minutes:

http://www.haarp.net/

http://www.rotten.com/library/conspiracy/haarp/

One paragraph or two:

"It can be seen from the foregoing that by appropriate application
of various aspects of this invention at strategic locations and
with adequate power sources, a means and method is provided to
cause interference with or even total disruption of
communications over a very large portion of the earth. This
invention could be employed to disrupt not only land based
communications, both civilian and military, but also airborne
communications and sea communications (both surface and
subsurface). This would have significant military implications,
particularly as a barrier to or confusing factor for hostile
missiles or airplanes."

We have ALOT to warn Christians about. Why they won't listen to what is posted here regarding the E.U. or Scalar, Haarp, Iter or any other form of thing we produce here is fear and also blatant denial--having itching ears. That's the only thing I can think as reasons.

Anyway--These are other things that are currently taking place and like Isaiah cried out "Who will listen to our report?"

Constance Cumbey said...

Be careful of the Tom Bearden information regarding weather. He himself is a New Ager's New Ager! Remember the game these folks like to play of "watch the fundamentalists run." This is part of their hoped for marginalization process of them to make their bizarre movement appear normal!

Anonymous said...

While we are keeping an eye on the Old World, this is good time to reflect upon what is going down / coming up in the New World Orders, (executive orders that is):

borrowed from a poster on another blog...

Justice Inc. @ 9:35 PM said...

Concentration camps are nothing new to the American Reichland. From Native Americans being displaced and forced into open air internment called reservations. The wholesale internment of the Japanese into Manzanar and 29 other American CONCENTRATION CAMPS.

FEMA was established by Presidential order in 1979, and directed by the creator of S.W.A.T. Louis O. Giuffrida. Ostensibly created for emergency preparedness and management, FEMA's real goal was the surveillance and suppression of peace activist and so-called radical groups. This came to light when they were brought before a Senate Intelligence Committee in 1983. Unrestrained, they executed regular police state drills and civilian detention exercises called: WINTEX-CIMEX 83, PRESSURE POINT 84, REX 84 ALPHA, and REX 82 BRAVO. In the late 1980's, along came FEMA and Oliver North's REX 84 martial law plan, to be carried out by FEMA. The plan consisted of the round up and internment into CONCENTRATION CAMPS, of American dissidents and Central Americans opposed to the Central American intervention.

Rex 84 allowed many military bases to be closed down and to be turned into prisons. Updated, Operation Cable Splicer and Garden Plot are the two sub programs which will be implemented once the Rex 84 program is initiated for its proper purpose. Garden Plot is the program for control of the population. Cable Splicer is the program for an orderly takeover of the state and local governments by the federal government. FEMA is the executive arm of the coming police state and thus will head up all operations. The Presidential Executive Orders already listed on the Federal Register also are part of the legal framework for this operation. They consist of the following:

EXECUTIVE ORDER 10990 allows the government to take over all modes of transportation and control of highways and seaports.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 10995 allows the government to seize and control the communication media.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 10997 allows the government to take over all electrical power, gas, petroleum, fuels and minerals.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 10998 allows the government to seize all means of transportation, including personal cars, trucks or vehicles of any kind and total control over all highways, seaports, and waterways.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 10999 allows the government to take over all food resources and farms.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11000 allows the government to mobilize civilians into work brigades under government supervision.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11001 allows the government to take over all health, education and welfare functions.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11002 designates the Postmaster General to operate a national registration of all persons.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11003 allows the government to take over all airports and aircraft, including commercial aircraft.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11004 allows the Housing and Finance Authority to relocate communities, build new housing with public funds, designate areas to be abandoned, and establish new locations for populations.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11005 allows the government to take over railroads, inland waterways and public storage facilities.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11051 specifies the responsibility of the Office of Emergency Planning and gives authorization to put all Executive Orders into effect in times of increased international tensions and economic or financial crisis.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11310 grants authority to the Department of Justice to enforce the plans set out in Executive Orders, to institute industrial support, to establish judicial and legislative liaison, to control all aliens, to operate penal and correctional institutions, and to advise and assist the President.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11049 assigns emergency preparedness function to federal departments and agencies, consolidating 21 operative Executive Orders issued over a fifteen year period.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11921 allows the Federal Emergency Preparedness Agency to develop plans to establish control over the mechanisms of production and distribution, of energy sources, wages, salaries, credit and the flow of money in U.S. financial institution in any undefined national emergency. It also provides that when a state of emergency is declared by the President, Congress cannot review the action for six months. The Federal Emergency Management Agency has broad powers in every aspect of the nation. General Frank Salzedo, chief of FEMA's Civil Security Division stated in a 1983 conference that he saw FEMA's role as a "new frontier in the protection of individual and governmental leaders from assassination, and of civil and military installations from sabotage and/or attack, as well as prevention of dissident groups from gaining access to U.S. opinion, or a global audience in times of crisis." FEMA's powers were consolidated by President Carter to incorporate the National Security Act of 1947.

Still feel all is safe and cozy. . . Operation Katrina is only the beginning. They're taking people they deem disposable inventory now, as a test. Testing and conditioning the public response. Besides the obvious, the New Orleans disaster and it's murderous follow-up, was used to gauge public reaction and outrage. If the think-tanks determine it was within control, then the operation will be hailed as successful.

Wait'll you see how much terror, bloodletting and literal hell-raising they plan for us all on June 6, 2006 (6/6/6).

Anonymous said...

Constance,

Would you help explain the thing you said about Tom Bearden. I didn't know about him being a part of this New Age stuff. Please say a little more on the psychology of what they are doing regarding this Weather Warfare.

Guess I didn't quite understand the meaning of your paragraph but one thing I did understand and didn't know was about Bearden being a New Ager--That had never occurred to me. Still, please say more about their game you spoke of...PLEASE. I want to know so as to not get sucked in to anything that'll deceive me. Others will benefit also if you explain just a bit more for all of us.

I sure hope you will. Practically begging over here.

God Bless you for the heads up on Bearden and am anxiously awaiting for a little more explanation on what you were conveying, besides Bearden being New Ager also (boy, how easily it is to not know this stuff!). THANK YOU!

Constance Cumbey said...

If you have my book, THE HIDDEN DANGERS OF THE RAINBOW, you will read disturbing quotes from John White's introduction to Leland Steward's UNITY IN DIVERSITY COUNCIL handbook. White says they (the New Agers) are a new species which will be making species war with the rest of us underclasses. (Basically, anybody not a blonde, blue eyed pagan). This is the same JOHN WHITE who works closely with Tom Bearden -- they work together and the same JOHN WHITE who is writing much literature that the various militias tap in to. He is very much the same pattern as Eustace Mullins, except Bearden and John White are much more open about their New Age, UFO type interests. I have been very disturbed over the years to see good writers such as Peter Lalonde and SW Radio Church sometimes tap into Bearden. People fail to realize that the New Age Movement cultivates the right just as much as the left. The scriptural warning is "neither to the left hand nor to the right, but strictly in the paths of the Lord."

More later.

Constance

Anonymous said...

Constance, did you know that there is a summit comming up with about 170 heads of state September 14- 16 of this year. Sharon will even be there. I think the summit is in NY. There was also another typhoon off of Japan this past wednesday.I told you about the typhoon in China on September 1, this year. Things are comming to a head.

Love in Christ our Lord,
Chris

Anonymous said...

I agree Constance,
People really need to get away from this right-left, conservative-liberal, Republican-Democrat stuff. Satan has always known how to play both sides. He is the master of deceit, father of lies, appearing as an angel of light. As the apostle Paul said, we should not wonder when Satans servants use the same tactics, and pass themselves off as servants of righteousness, when in reality they are ravening wolves, deceitful, self-serving, servants of iniquity and evil. After they have done their worst, their doom of eternal destruction awaits them. But for now some of them walk and appear to the undiscerning as 'christian leaders', conservative, patriotic. THE BIBLE WARNS ABOUT THIS. That Satan and evil men masquerade as members of the 'good side'. The Pharisees passed themselves off as pillars of righteousness, but they were proud and corrupt on the inside.
The Bible gives two main red flags to where to expect find evil lurking.

#1. "The love of money is the root of all evil." and "... a rich man will hardly enter into the kingdom of heaven." So be on especial guard of the highly wealthy.

#2. Satan showed Jesus the kingdoms of the world and said, "... all this I will give you if you will bow down and worship me." Jesus did not argue that Satan did not have such power, but responded only that he would worship only God. Later Jesus even referred to Satan as the "god of this world", and here we have the best insight as to why politics are the way they are.
Jesus would refer to them as vipers or a "den of theives".
So, political power is a natural magnet to those who have sold their souls to evil, and worship the god of this world.

And where will we most likely find the worst kinds of evil men, doing the works of their father, who is Satan? Probably where the two warning flags converge together. Those who are people of wealth and political power. And where these two elements are combined together over three or four generations in a family dynasty... you have all the factors and signs for the worst kind of evil.
But remember, they will most likely wear a nice smile, and a white hat, and speak deceptively.

People, there is no 'good side', "for all are corrupt and have gone out of the way."

"And now o man, what does the Lord require of thee, but to deal justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God."

Anonymous said...

I read something here about weather modification now a reality: www.raidersnewsupdate.com/lead-story283.htm. But as the AC may use this type of weaponry, I don't plan on being here, go to www.angelfire.com/tx/eternalhome101/jesus.html to see many reasons why... look up! for your redemption draws nigh! Pray and seek God's counsel on how to tell all you can about his free gift of salvation. The hour is short!!

Anonymous said...

Constance,

I'm sorry to be so inquisitive once again. First, thank you for the information on John White along with Bearden. How very small this world is becoming! Thank you for that information.

Now, one more question that just asks in plain simple words. Do you believe that these Scientists/Military are using this HAARP and SCALAR in real time? Or is this all a scare tactic or moreover a deception?

I ask because I do not know if this technology is real. It has been my understanding from reading many sources that it is indeed real. Yet, I'm not so inclined to believe if given a reason not to believe that the technology is real. Again, is that technology real?

This technology is being taught and warned about, as you know, on some Christian websites. And one of these sites I read weekly. My main objective is to know if the technology exists. If it doesn't, then I need to re-think the rest of their topics on one particular ministry as well.

Again, forgive my many questions but I'm left not knowing at this point whether or not this technology is real. I'm speaking of this Scalar and Haarp technology.

Thank you for your time and I'm sure you understand how important it is for me or possibly others to know if this technology is real.

As for myself, I do not want to be telling people about these two particular technolgies thinking I'm warning them, only to find out that it was myself being decieved all along.

May God Bless you Constance for your patience with inquisitive ones such as myself.

Anonymous said...

I did want to add this as well. If the posts regarding the left/right or republican/democratic topics were for me--I was no where even in the thinking of right/left etc. etc..

Years ago I saw through that facade and realized they were all in one and there was no such line of distinction between any of these camps.

So hopefully they weren't directed toward me as my entire question and post is about the 'technology' not the who is right/left, democrat/republican thing.

Hopefully that clears up my name or our understanding. That's why I asked for more explanation on the technologies themselves or more elucidation on Constances first response regarding Bearden.

Which I'm so happy to find out that Bearden is New Ager along with White--wow--what an eye-opener that was for me! And here I was focusing on the technologies themselves when a truth I didn't know about Bearden came of my question. God works His Wonders in the most mysterious ways for I had no clue about Bearden and now to find White mixed in the mess is also something.

Still, just couldn't figure out how some saw me as thinking left/right, democrat/rebulican when in all reality it was the 'technologies' that I'm focusing on and ended up with a bonus regarding Bearden.

Still, I'm anxious to know if these technologies are real or not.

I could care less about left/right, democrat/republican etc. That's not my concern, nor ever was.

No doubt, I could use learning how to frame my questions in a better way perhaps since such a misunderstanding came about. Believe me--I'm working on it diligently.

Still wondering about the technologies though and do want an answer so I'm not decieved nor do I decieve others.

God Bless all here. This site has so much information on it with links to prove what many or most of us have to say that it's too bad we don't have many more Christians willing to read here or add to the links and information. This is a great site and you folks are great people. Thanks!

Constance Cumbey said...

Here's what I believe in a nutshell. There were prophesied events and these folks perhaps know so as well. They would like us to believe that they and not God controls the elements and weather. Our fear is to be of God, not them!

Anonymous said...

Deut 8:6 Therefore thou shalt keep the commandments of the LORD thy God, to walk in his ways, and to fear him

Ps 27:3 Though an host should encamp against me, my heart shall not fear: though war should rise against me, in this will I be confident.

Prov 3:25 Be not afraid of sudden fear, neither of the desolation of the wicked, when it cometh.

Isa 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.

Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?

Job 2:10 But he said unto her, Thou speakest as one of the foolish women speaketh. What? shall we receive good at the hand of God, and shall we not receive evil? In all this did not Job sin with his lips.

Job 30:26 When I looked for good, then evil came unto me: and when I waited for light, there came darkness.

peace in Jesus mighty name
ozell

Anonymous said...

Pastors, priest, reverends, democrats, republicans, left, right
etc, all are blinded by the Lord and the concerns of this world.


Isa 56:10 His watchmen are blind: they are all ignorant, they are all dumb dogs, they cannot bark; sleeping, lying down, loving to slumber.

2Cor 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

Jn 12:40 He hath blinded their eyes, and hardened their heart; that they should not see with their eyes, nor understand with their heart, and be converted, and I should heal them.

ozell

Anonymous said...

Well said Constance.
Again, Satan loves to work through confusion, tricks and lies.

However, I may go so far as to think the chemtrails are efforts to alter weather patterns, such as cloud seeding, or 'greenhouse effect' abatement, or conversely perhaps, augmentation. These don't seem completely out of the question.

There is so much beyond the limits of our knowledge and understanding. We cannot expect to know or comprehend all that is going on. I think it is important to keep our focus within the realm of concrete information and understanding. There very well may be, and probably is, much going on 'out there' especially in the way of nefarious works of darkness. However, it is dissipative of our time and energies to try to fill Gods shoes of omniscience.
I think one does well to keep ones eyes and mind open, and trust that God will give us specific understanding according to his will. Just as it is undesirable to be closed minded and underinformed, it is also senseless to make foolhardy quantum leaps of imagined certainty, where in fact we do not really know things for sure as to whether things are or are not so.

Anonymous said...

I just came back from a small vacation. What I learned reinforced my previous experience. Used bookstores are becoming a thing of the past. Everything is becoming internet based. This works well when attempting to get a good price on a title one is familiar with. Used bookstores were very good resources for a non-academic researcher as shelf sections provided access to books unknown previously.

Public libraries no longer have a good supply of information. There may be four places in the country that carry a particular title so while a particular title can be gotten thru interlibrary loan, it becomes very hard to know what other information is available.

Academic researchers have good access, but the average person who wants to know what is happening is very dependent on the very limited access information available on the internet.

For the average person the information base is shrinking and shrinking.

Constance Cumbey said...

The internet is a dandy research library, particularly google.com; however, I recommend you archive EVERYTHING because you may never see it again.

Anonymous said...

Constance,

Thank you for taking time out to answer my question. May God Bless you!

Anonymous said...

Tronicus,

I agree with your last post. The way God works is beyond our understanding but we should not close our minds nor open them foolheartedly to anything we read. Truth is, we really don't know. And as Constance as stated, we should fear God and God alone. A good reminder for these last days.

David Moore said...

Agreed Tronicus and Constance,

and as it is written

"Be still, and know that I am God."
(Psalm 46:10)

Anonymous said...

Can I just ask all who read this to PRAY, not long lofty prayers, but come boldly having received authority by Jesus, asking Him to revive us again by the power of His Holy Spirit, to use us however, for His purposes, to help in ushering in His kingdom, so that He can be glorified. Repent for anything that may have offended, pray, and fast if you can. Send your fire, revive us again.

David Moore said...

This may be way of topic but...

Constance mentions in her CD on Javier Solana and the EU and an event involving them in the year 1995. Now please indulge me for a minute and I use Constance as having set the precedent for the kind of talk I'm about engage in.

But in 1995 (and PLEASE add anything that I miss, which might be a lot), Greece became the 10th member of the Western European Union (Belgium, France, Germany, Italy, Luxembourg, Netherland, Portugal, Spain, and the United Kingdom). Thus the Brussels Treaty Powers came into full focused power--somewhat. Or what Herber Peters refers to as the "10 kings of Bible prophecy" (See Chapter 7 of his book). In 1995 Yizhak Rabin was assassinated. Then on Constance's CD she mentions the signing of the Barcelona Declaration that was adopted by the Council of Europe on November 1995 at a conference held in Madrid, Spain. And of course, we already know that this created the Euro-Mediterranean Partnership for Peace, which includes Israel--and what Herbert and myself included believe to be the potential "covenant with many" for seven years.

This is where I begin my point. When Constance mentioned this latter fact, she coincided it with an Earthquake that shook somehwere in a politically crucial area of the Middle East (Constance I forgot where was it--my PC is broken so I can't get your CD and look it up--I'm using a MAC. Your CD only opens on PC).

My point is this... Every time, something occurs with Israel, namely "land for peace" some natural disaster or a disaster of some sort, comes upon the head of those that contributed to Israel's detriment, even upon Israelis that violate the land Covenant (namely Sharon--his time is coming). Some important verses come to mind:

"I will make you into a great nation and I will bless you; I will make your name great, and you will be a blessing. I will bless those who bless you, and whoever curses you I will curse; and all peoples on earth will be blessed through you." (Genesis 12:2-3)

" 'The land must not be sold permanently, because the land is mine and you are but aliens and my tenants. Throughout the country that you hold as a possession, you must provide for the redemption of the land. (Leviticus 25:23-24)


Now Consider this (There are a lot of the occurences that I could list so I'll highlight the important ones):

1. October 30, 1991: The Perfect Storm—As President George H. W. Bush is opening the Madrid (Spain) Conference to consider “land for peace” in Israel’s Middle East role, the “perfect storm” develops in the North Atlantic, creating the largest waves ever recorded in that region. The storm travels 1000 miles from “east to west” instead of the normal “west to east” pattern and crashes into the New England Coast. Thirty-five foot waves crash into the Kennebunkport home of President Bush (See p. 64-65 of Herbert Peters' Recommendation 666).

2. August 23, 1992: Hurricane Andrew—When the Madrid Conference moves to Washington DC and the peace talks resume, Hurricane Andrew, the worst natural disaster ever to hit America, comes ashore and produces an estimated $30 billion in damage and leaving 180,000 homeless in Florida. (See p. 68 of Herbert Peters' book Recommendation 666). And folks, I live in South Florida. Hurricane Andrew made us scramble like ants on the ground--just to find water, non-perishable foods, and shelter.

3. On page 79 of Herbert Peters' book, it reads, "Although the Amsterdam Treaty was signed in 1997, it didn't become effective until May 1999. Then just five months later, on October 15, 1999, a remarkable man became the first to hold this office. He was a 56-year-old Spaniard by the name of Javie Solana Madariaga. He was a member of the Spanish Socialist Party and had beent he prior head of NATO." Let's remember that the signing of the Amsterdam treaty brought about the first occupation of the role of Common Foreign and Security Policy by one Javier Solana. Preceding this appointment on October 15, 1999, the Week of October 11, 1999: Hurricane, Earthquake and Dow Collapse—As Jewish settlers in 15 West Bank (Israel) settlements are evicted from the covenant land in Israel, the Dow-Jones financial averages lose 5.7 percent in the worst week since October 1989. On October 15 the Dow lost 266 points, and a hurricane slams into North Carolina. On the next morning, October 16, a magnitude 7.1 earthquake rocks the southwest in the fifth most powerful earthquake in 20th Century. The earthquake was centered in the California desert and did little damage but was felt in three states. (From www.truthorfiction.com).

And last but not least, the Jewish settlers in Gaza were evacuated this year on August 15 and many were left homeless all in the name of "land for peace". Now here we are, Katrina has hit the Gulf coastal area and has devastated thousands, where perhaps THOUSANDS have died. The entire city of New Orleans has to be rebuilt, in addition to the lives of those who suffered loss in the devastation.

I guess my point is that all this activity centers around Israel. Is there any merit to it, I really am not sure if it is coincidence, but then again coincidence is not a Kosher term. So, I guess I'll fall back on, I'd be foolish to ignore these "birth pains" if I can call them that.

However, concerning the hedge of protection over America--I think it's slowly being taken away. I do not support President Bush's decision to support the evacuation of Gaza. And now he's supporting the evacuation of the West Bank and Jerusalem. People, this is just my opinion and sincere belief, but Bush is messin' with the apple of God's eye and he's endangering us all, whether he's a Christian or not--I have my doubts about that however!! He is a Replacement Theology believer, which explains a lot (belief that Israel is no longer prophetically significant and that the Church replaced Israel). I don't think he has some evnagelical Christian believers, and Orthodox Jewish believers intentions at heart.

Think about it.

David
Maranatha

Anonymous said...

David,

Thank you! I wholeheardedly agree with you and have been thinking and saying the very same things.

You have confirmed what I've truly been believing with everything in me!

May God Bless you.

Anonymous said...

One more thing David,

On this part here:

"October 16, a magnitude 7.1 earthquake rocks the southwest in the fifth most powerful earthquake in 20th Century. The earthquake was centered in the California desert and did little damage but was felt in three states."

It was a 7.2

I was here and know that for a fact. It really shook us up! And the odd part about that earthquake and myself is that instead of panic, which used to be my reaction; I woke up yelling "Yes God! Shake 'em up and let 'em know just Who is in charge!"

I had just become a Christian at that time and had no fear. I'll never forget that as long as I live.

Constance Cumbey said...

David,

A lot of food for thought there. Thanks!

Constance

Anonymous said...

I agree with David on many of his points, and especially about how America is being hit because of our involvement by pushing out of Israelis from their God given land.

We will have to watch for the next kink in the Road Map, as Abbas is already calling for the West Bank to be evacuated.

But it may take a while because Bush and Sharon want to see if the Palestinians can handle their own state in Gaza first. My guess is that they will not be able to, and will revert to more terrorism. Then if Israel pushes them back again, the nations will not like it and will likely go harder against Israel.

What may come next could be worse than Katrina.

Also I saw an article on how the U.S. military is being enabled to use smaller nuclear weapons against terror states such as Syria if deemed appropriate in response to insurgent attacks in Iraq.

Today, a last warning to Syria is being ignored. Damascus is in danger of being nuked.

The stiffest warning to Syria yet was issued Monday by US Iraq ambassador Zalmay Khalilzad

September 12, 2005, 7:48 PM (GMT+02:00)

“Our patience is running out,” he said at news conference at the state department in Washington on the help Damascus is giving radical groups in Iraq.

Asked how Washington would respond, the ambassador said “all options are on the table,” including military.


With things moving at such an incredible pace, we all need to stay focused on the real mission to spread the word.

Anonymous said...

Well people, whether it's Solana or Aunt J....a, it really doesn't matter now--does it? You see, the END is here and NOW... PERIOD. We can hang our heads or PRAISE THE LORD! And furthermore, we can either deceive ourselves concerning the THEORY referred to as the RAPTURE or prepare ourselves to SUFFER just as our Lord Jesus (GOD IN THE FLESH) did, his personally chosen twelve disciples, the early church through to the medieval era, and on into this GRAND? neo-modern day and age--where Chinese, Russian, Indian, Pakistani, Saudi, Korean, Vietnamese, the WHOLE of Africa/ns, and the entire rest of the CHRIST BELIEVERS IN THE THIRD WORLD are suffering for HIS NAME'S SAKE to this very day.

Is it thought that WE THE PEOPLE shall somehow wiggle ourselves free from our PLUSH PEWS and MEGA MILLION DOLLAR CHURCHES and simply -- Wait a minute! FLY AWAY????

No, no, no, no--WAKE UP! Stop the incessant soft or hard debating concerning this and realize we're ALL going to be in this--right here--together. Do you think/believe the LORD GOD is going to AIRLIFT the SPOILED AND [b]SIN SOILED[/b] RICH American and/or Western Church out of JACOB'S TROUBLE before or during????? Huh Uh!

We're in it for the LONG HAUL fellow Christians. It's time now to prepare our hearts and our minds and our loved ones for the FACT that WE SHALL be HERE DURING (SOLANA'S? OR WHOEVER'S?) BEASTLY reign.

Now I fully understand that there are so many of you (My Fellow Christians) who TRULY BELIEVE in the Rapture THEORY, and I'm sure--beyond a shadow of a doubt--that you shall be offended by my aforementioned rude? crude? and socially unacceptable? RELIGIOUSLY INCORRECT use of syntax; nevertheless, the LORD GOD plainly states that--and I paraphrase--...
"those who know the TRUTH are to prepare and/or warn others concerning that same TRUTH."

Now that all of that is said, I plead with ALL of you (My Fellow Christians/Believers In The Lord Jesus Christ) to fully realize the FACT that our REDEMPTION DRAWETH NIGH IN THE PERSON OF JESUS CHRIST. However, we SHALL SUFFER BEFORE HE RETURNS--NOT from HIS WRATH but from the BEAST THAT SHALL ASCEND FROM THE BOTTOMLESS PIT.

One more very important thing: Please know that I'm not here to be argumentative, but to SPREAD/TELL THE TRUTH AS THE LORD GOD HAS GIVEN IT TO ME.

Finally, this is not ANOTHER OPINION! on this matter, but t'is the ABSOLUTE TRUTH.

I pray that God--through and by His Only Begotten Son, Jesus The Christ--shall open your hearts, your minds and your entire beings to KNOW once and for all that just as the 3 in the fiery furnace, and just as Daniel in the Lion's Den, and just as our Lord and Savior (Jesus The Christ) had to suffer at the hands of sinful mankind (the world,) so shall we. PRAISE THE LORD!

And Solana? Possibly... That is if he's THE BEAST THAT HAS ARISEN FROM OUT OF THE BOTTOMLESS PIT. Only God knows this one. And we Christians shall know when it's time for us to know. Nevertheless, it's a good thing to seek after THE TRUTH concerning just who may be this AC; but a word of warning here: WE CHRISTIANS (TRUE BELIEVERS, THAT IS) ARE [b]NOT[/b] to OBSESS on WHO? may or may not be this ANTI-CHRIST, but we are to DWELL ON JESUS ... CHRIST.

May God Bless Each And Every One Of You In The Precious Name Of Our Lord And Savior, Jesus The Christ.

AMEN.

Anonymous said...

Dear Brother or Sister in Christ,
It seems that these people writing here are pretty sincere in their efforts to understand scripture. In Thess.4 it does mention that we who are alive will be "caught up" at that time. Then in Thess. 5:19, it says, "Do not put out the Spirit's fire, do not treat prophesies with contempt." Either way, let's keep our eyes on Jesus, the author and finisher of our faith.

Anonymous said...

After following this blog for a long time, I have now been convinced that no one should spend time doing any research on the growing efforts of those promoting one world government and one world religion. Those who don't know what is going on are not worth bothering with. The best goal in life is sit back, do nothing, trust in Jesus and convince others to do the same. It's what the enemy of sharing the information would do, but tough luck on that score.

Constance, Herb and the few others who have made an effort to warn others probably have just wasted their time. They should have just pulled out of some church library some old books with hot sermons and posted away. They would have been patted on their heads by both the unaware and the very aware of what is going on, if at least a few of you catch my drift.

Anonymous said...

To the anonymous who came out stated what I also believe regarding the false pre-trib rapture--THANK YOU!

Anonymous said...

With regard to prophecy, it seems like the message in the bible to the church (when the prophecy will be fulfilled) is WAKE UP!!!
Many people believe that all Christians, even those living in open sin, will be caught up to Christ when He returns. However, I believe that Jesus will be looking for people who are leading a Christ-like life and are actively praying and watching for His return.

"Be careful, or your hearts will be weighed down with dissipation, drunkenness and the cares of life, and that day will close on you unexpectedly like a trap. For it will come upon all those who live on the face of the whole earth. Be always on the watch, and pray that you may be accounted worthy to escape all that is about to happen, and that you may be able to stand before the Son of Man." Luke 21:34

It seems that we Christians should take Christ's warning to heart, so we will not be caught by surprise by His return. Could it be that some will not be accounted worthy to escape the coming terrors. We should not forget that Jesus gave us this warning:

"Obey what you have heard. Change your hearts and lives! You must wake up, or I will come to you and surprise you like a thief ." Rev. 3:3

In other words, if you will be alert, pray, and obey God's Word, you will not be surprised by His coming. If you are spiritually asleep, you will not be ready for escape. Jesus said only the sleeping will be surprised when He comes. After all, Jesus said:

"The Holy Spirit will lead you and guide you into all truth, and reveal to you things to come."

The Apostle Paul also says that christians, who are living in light of the Word of God and His Holy Spirit, will not be surprised by Christ's return.

"Brothers, you are not living in darkness. And, so that day will not surprise you like a thief." 1 Thes 5:4

Dates are in the Bible, they were put there by God, Himself. They were put there for us to study. They were put there to be discovered at the appointed time. There are no scriptures that says we can never learn the time of Christ's return for His Church; but rather, it is explicitly stated that christians who are living in the light and led by the Holy Spirit will not be surprised!

GOD HAS ALWAYS TOLD HIS PEOPLE IN ADVANCE WHAT HE WAS ABOUT TO DO.

Noah was told that a flood was coming, and as the time approached God gave him seven days notice. "Seven days from now I will send rain on the earth for forty days and forty nights, and I will wipe from the face of the earth every living creature I have made. And after the seven days the floodwaters came on the earth. " Genesis 7:4 Jesus said that His coming would be like the days of Noah:,

"As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage,up to the day Noah entered the ark; and they knew nothing about what would happen until the flood came and took them all away. Matthew 24:37

Notice, it says: "and they knew nothing about what would happen until the flood came and took them all away." The unbelievers were caught by surprise, but God told His people in advance as to the very day of the flood. God Gave Abraham and Lot advance notice of Sodom's destruction. Both Abraham and Lot received about one days notice before the judgment fell. Genesis 19

A REDISCOVERED KEY TO UNDERSTANDING THE END TIMES.

Before we go further, we must understand one more very important part of the prophecy puzzle that has come to light in the past few years. This is the understanding of the jewish feasts and how they apply to the first and second coming of Jesus.

God told Israel to celebrate seven different feasts each year. There were three feasts celebrated, as a group, in the spring time:

(1) Passover,

(2) The Festival of Unleavened Bread,

(3) The feast of First fruits.

One feast in the middle of the year;

(4) Pentecost.

And, the last three feasts were celebrated as a group in the fall;

(5) Rosh HaShanah (or Feast of Trumpets)

(6) The day of Atonement,

(7) The Feast of Tabernacles.

God required all males to travel to Jerusalem three times a year, Spring, Summer, and Fall, to attend these feasts, and the Bible clearly says that Jesus participated in all the feasts. What has been recently understood is that four of these feasts were literally fulfilled in the life of Jesus.

An outline of how the feasts were fulfilled is below:

(1) Passover Commemorates the day Moses applied the lambs blood to the door posts of the Israelite homes in Egypt, so that the Death Angel would pass over them. In fulfillment, 1,600 years later, Jesus died on the cross, on the very day of Passover, even at the same hour (3:00 PM) that the lambs were being slaughtered in the Temple. And now, those who apply the blood of Christ to the door posts of their heart will live forever.

(2) Unleavened bread commemorates the days that the Israelites left Egypt and traveled to the Red Sea. They ate bread made without yeast, because there was not enough time to allow the bread to rise. In fulfillment these were the days that Jesus was buried in the earth, not yet risen.

(3) The Feast of First fruits commemorates the time that God parted the Red Sea and the Israelites arose from the depths of the sea alive on the other side. Jesus arose from the dead on the feast of first fruits, what we now call Resurrection Sunday or Easter. Also remember, that Jesus is called "the First fruits of those that rise from the dead". I Corinthians 15:20

(4) Pentecost commemorates the fifty days that Moses and the Israelites traveled from the Red Sea to Mt. Sinai where God gave them the Ten Commandments and God's fiery presence was seen on the mountain. This was fulfilled when the Holy Spirit came upon Jesus' followers, on the day of the feast of Pentecost, exactly fifty days after Jesus rose from the dead. The next three feasts have yet to be fulfilled, and most people believe Jesus will fulfill them at His second coming, because of what the feasts represent.

(5) Rosh HaShanah (or Feast of Trumpets) is the Jewish new year. According to Jewish writings, It is believed to be the day that God created the world. It is also taught that the dead will be raised on this day and the wedding of the Messiah will take place. This is also the day that many believe the "catching away of the saints" or Rapture will occur. This day is also known as the "Last Trump" because rams horn trumpets were joyfully blown throughout the land on this day. Remember what the Apostle Paul wrote:

"...We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, in a moment, in the blinking of an eye, at the Last Trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality... Then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory." I corinthians 15:51

(6) The Day of Atonement is considered the holiest day of the year. This was the day that the High Priest sprinkled the blood on the Mercy seat in the holiest place in the Temple. This day looks forward to the day that Jesus Physically returns to the Earth to complete the redemption process.

(7) The Feast of Tabernacles commemorates the years that the Israelites wandered in the desert. During this time, they lived in tents or tabernacles because they moved regularly. Also, God's presence was seen among them as a bright cloud that shaded them by day and, a fiery cloud that kept them warm at night. God also supernaturally provided all of their food and water for those 14,000 days in the desert. This feast also looks forward to the time that we will live in God's presence, and He will care for us like a loving father.

Many other historical events, both secular and religious, occurred on the feast days, and an entire book could be written on how God works during these feasts.

WHAT WILL THE RAPTURE LOOK LIKE?

The Bible gives us the raptures of Enoch, Elijah, and Jesus to look at as an examples of what the future rapture of the church might look like. Neither Enoch, Elijah, or Jesus were surprised by their own rapture to Heaven. In fact, each of them told others that they were going to be taken to Heaven, and in the case of Elijah, the prophets from Bethel knew, by inspiration from God, that Elijah was going to be taken up that very day. Also all three, by the inspiration of God, walked out to a certain place to be taken up from, and Elijah and Jesus were both seen to rise from the earth. These examples from the Bible give us some understanding of what the catching away of the church might be like. See scripture references Genesis 5:24, Hebrews 11:5, 2 Kings ch. 2, Acts ch 1.

Here's a link to the rest of this bible study by Everett Vasek.
www.angelfire.com/tx/eternalhome101/jesus.html

Anonymous said...

Check out www.pre-trib.org and can we keep the rapture sermons short and sweet. Also understand that the different rapture views ARE appreciated, understood, believed by some, or completely rejected by others. Just be aware of that and pick and choose your battles wisely, in addition to your battle LOCATION.

thanks

Anonymous said...

I didn't think I was going to battle, aren't we on the same side? Oh Lord, make us one.

Anonymous said...

I think the timing of the rapture touched a nerve and after some thought I believe it's the enemies tactic to keep us divided. (A house divided cannot stand.) If the pre-trib crowd is correct, it would leave us with very little time on our hands getting our message out, and that is just what the enemy wants as well. Everything we do must be done in love, so with that let's agree to pray and each do our part in the kingdom.
God bless us.

Anonymous said...

Yeah, no one said that we were divided, though many Christians are on the issue of the rapture, but what you're failing to understand--if I wasn't clear before in my hint--this isn't the place to start a rapture sermon. Sure, getting one's message out is important--NO DOUBT! BUT, be considerate, and realize that you need to keep it simple and sweet. If you have a diatribe sermon that you feel the need or desire to share, then publish it on your blog or other website and maybe plug your idea via a link in the midst of the core subject matter that this blog is devoted to. Maybe I'm mistaken, but this blog isn't a purely end-times forum. It's about the New Age movement and Javier Solana and a few things related to it. Yes, the rapture, and other end-times subject matter is definitely related, but an echatological debate is not the core purpose of the blog.

Again, consideration and tact about when and where you start a theological/eschatological debate is what is lacking here. Your input is always welcome as Ms. Cumbey says, but that invitation has an implication of a level of reasonable, responsible, and tactful input. For example, should one randomly walk up onstage at a Billy Graham rally and start debating the sprinkle of staunch atheists in the audience? No. While THE ACT of convincing doubters of the faith is good in and of it self, the time and place is all wrong.

I hope that clears things up a little. :)

Always in Christ

P.S. One's salvation is not hinged at all on whether one believes in the pre-trib, mid-trib, post-trib, or pre-wrath rapture views. More to the point, one doesn't even have to believe in the rapture and can be considered saved--as many Christians are completely ignorant of what the rapture is simply because they're expecting one complete return of Christ to bring in his kingdom. Many, many Christians do not see the obvious logistical complications of combining the rapture and the glorious appearing of Christ. But again, that depends on if they know about a distinction to look for! So, the obvious and most important common denominator for all Christians to do is to make sure that they spread the Gospel (1 Cor. 15:1-4). For the Apostle Paul has said:

"For what I received I passed on to you as of FIRST IMPORTANCE: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures, and that he appeared to Peter." (1 Cor. 15:3-5)

Anything else is just secondary proofs for this FIRST important fact to be preached--bible prophecy being secondary. Sure prophecy is a great apologetic tool, but use it wisely. Convince people with love and gentility as opposed to extreme zealotry and sensationalism. Save the latter for people who stand on street corners hollering "the end is near!" Although I grant that it is true.

Constance Cumbey said...

To my readers -- going through extremely rough spell. Please pray for me.

Constance
cumbey@yahoo.com
www.cumbey.blogspot.com

David Moore said...

Oh my goodness!

I don't know what is going to become of this report, but I just saw this at 2:50 this afternoon. But a federal judge has ruled that the Pledge of Allegiance is unconstitutional because of two atheist families.

Click this link to read about it.

Anonymous said...

We're living in the New World Order now. The first two links are to stories that deal with the donation Israel tried to make to the US after Katrina's damage and how the US handled the offer....very badly.

http://www.worldtribune.com/worldtribune/05/front2453622.1159722223.html
http://jewishworldreview.com/0905/glick091405.php3
and

The link here is to the story of Muslim attacks on a Christian village when they didn't get to control some people.
http://jewishworldreview.com/0905/pipes2005_09_13.php3

World silent after Muslim gang attacks ‘Palestinian’ Christian village

It ain't just the Jews, folks.

A sustained assault on Arab Christians has led to their fleeing the birthplace of Christianity. The likely result will be reduced to empty church buildings and a congregation-less hierarchy with no flock
(more at link)

Anonymous said...

Constance, Know that my prayers are submitted in the name of Jesus Christ for you in this time of trouble and also for your ministry. You are an inspiration for me and many others. Please don't wear down or loose the fire that makes you special to so many. What you provide will be rewarded when you get home. Love and support in the name of Jesus Christ.

Anonymous said...

HAVE YOU SEEN THIS!
IT IS A MUST READ.

THE BIBLE CONFIRMS THAT A GENERATION IS EXACTLY 14,000 DAYS LONG. COULD THIS MEAN THAT JESUS (YESHUA IN HEBREW) IS RETURNING SOONER THAN WE THINK?

THE FIRST COMING OF JESUS WAS FORETOLD TO THE EXACT DAY. WILL WE KNOW THE SECOND COMING ALSO?

The Book of Daniel tells the story of one of the greatest prophets of the Bible. Daniel was born about 620 years before Jesus. One day Daniel was praying and fasting, and the angel Gabriel appeared

"flying swiftly to me about the time of the evening sacrifice" Gabriel said "Daniel, because God loves you very much, I have come to give you wisdom and understanding... God has ordered 490 years for your people and your holy city... A command will come to rebuild Jerusalem...483 years after the command is given to rebuild Jerusalem, the anointed king (Jesus the Messiah) will be killed, but not for himself..." Daniel 9:20-26

The prophecy above is very clear, remember that Jerusalem and the Temple of God had been destroyed by the Babylonians, Daniel is told that on some future day a command will be given to rebuild Jerusalem, and 483 years from that day, the Messiah will be on earth (and then die for us). The remaining 7 years of the prophecy are for the great tribulation period still to come.

An Englishman named Sir Robert Anderson, who was head of Scotland Yard in the 1890's, decided to investigate this prophecy in his book "The Coming Prince". Historians know that the commandment to restore and build Jerusalem was given by Artaxerxes Longimanus on March 14, 445 B.C. (Nehemiah chapter 2). Sir Robert Anderson did something interesting, he turned the 483 years of the prophecy into days by multiplying 360 days per year times 483 years for a total interval of 173,880 days between the commandment to rebuild Jerusalem until the presentation of the Messiah as King. When Sir Robert Anderson counted forward 173,880 days from March 14, 445 B.C. he ended up at April 6, 32 A.D. You might wonder if anything special happened on that day? This was the exact day that Jesus rode a donkey's colt into Jerusalem as the people placed their robes and palm branches before him, and hailed him as King (what we now call Palm Sunday). Thus Jesus fulfilled the prophecy to the very day!

THE GENERATION OF JESUS LASTED EXACTLY 14,000 DAYS.

There are three different generations mentioned in the Bible; one, is the Generation of Moses, two, is the generation of Jesus, and three, is the last days generation that will be alive to see the return of Jesus in power and glory. People have offered different Ideas for the length of a generation; such as 40 years, or 70 years, but the most biblical length of a generation I've yet seen is given by John Zachary, in his book "Threshold of Eternity". He believes that a biblical generation is equal to 14,000 days, or 2000 weeks, or about 38 years and 4 months. Zachary determined this number by using a perpetual calendar to add up the number of days between two events mentioned in the Bible. The first event that he started counting from is the day of Jesus' triumphal entry into Jerusalem, "Palm Sunday", April 6, 32 A.D. This day is chosen, because Jesus prophesied on Palm Sunday that

"Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this generation." Matthew 23:36

Zachary stopped his count on the very day that the city and the Temple were destroyed by the Roman legions under Titus Vespasian on August 5, 70 A.D. There were exactly 14,000 days between these two events.

THE GENERATION OF MOSES LASTED EXACTLY 14,000 DAYS.

God worked many great miracles to free the Israelites from slavery in Egypt, and He wanted the Jews to immediately go up and possess the promised land. However, the fighting men, age twenty and up, refused to trust God, and His promise to fight for them. Therefore, God became angry, and He swore that generation would not enter the promised land.

The Hebrews left Egypt on Passover, which took place on the on the fifteenth day of the first month. In the book of Numbers, we are told that it is now the twentieth day of the second month, in the second year since they left Egypt. For one year, one month, and five days, a total of 395 days ( 360 days = a year + 30 days = a month + 5 days = 395 days), the Israelites traveled to and camped at Mt. Sinai. Many of the Bible stories that we are familiar with took place during these 395 days. Some of the events that took place are; leaving Egypt, crossing the Red Sea, traveling to Mt. Sinai where God gave the Ten Commandments, the golden calf, the law breakers were punished, and the people built the Tabernacle of God. Now, however, a change was about to take place. The people had spent the 395 days getting to Mt. Sinai and staying there. But now the Tabernacle had been completed and the glory of the LORD was physically seen above the Tabernacle as a cloud by day and a fire by night. For the first time in their history, the cloud of God's Glory was about to lift and the people would now begin their 14,000 day wanderings through the wilderness.

"Now it came to pass on the twentieth day of the second month, in the second year, that the cloud was taken up from above the tabernacle of the Testimony. And the children of Israel set out from the Wilderness of Sinai on their journeys... So they started out for the first time according to the command of the LORD by the hand of Moses." Num. 10:11-13

They started out for the first time to follow the glory of the LORD. This was a momentous day in God's plan, because it would be exactly 14, 000 days later that their children would cross the Jordan River and enter the promised land. During their journey in the wilderness, the entire generation of fighting men will die off along the way. Only Joshua and Caleb will be allowed in because of their obedience.

Moses was one of the last men of that generation to die. In Deuteronomy 1:3 we learn that it is now the first day of the eleventh month of the fortieth year. Now it came to pass in the fortieth year, in the eleventh month, on the first day of the month, that Moses spoke to the children of Israel... Deut. 1:3 On that day Moses retold the story how they left Egypt, their wanderings through the desert, and he further tells the people that:

You stand this day, all of you...so that you should enter into covenant with the LORD your God, which the LORD is making with you today - so that He may establish you today for a people for Himself... Deut. 29:10-13. Then the LORD spoke to Moses that very same day, saying: "Go up this mountain...view the land of Canaan, which I give to the children of Israel as a possession; and die on the mountain which you ascend, and be gathered to your people...Deut. 32:48-50 Then Moses went up... to Mount Nebo...the LORD said to him, "I have caused you to see it with your eyes, but you shall not cross over there." So Moses the servant of the LORD died there...according to the word of the LORD. Deut 34:1-5

So, we know that Moses preached the words of Deuteronomy and on the same day ascended Mount Nebo where he would die as the Lord God said. That day was the first day of the eleventh month of the fortieth year from leaving Egypt.

And the children of Israel wept for Moses in the plains of Moab thirty days. So the days of weeping and mourning for Moses ended. Now Joshua the son of Nun was full of the spirit of wisdom... so the children of Israel heeded him... Deut.34:9

Joshua assumed leadership after the 30 days of mourning on the first day of the twelfth month of the fortieth year.

After the death of Moses... the LORD spoke to Joshua, saying: "Moses My servant is dead. Now therefore, arise, go over this Jordan, you and all this people, to the land which I am giving to them... Now the people came up from the Jordan on the tenth day of the first month... Joshua 1:1 & 4:19

This is the tenth day of the first month of the forty-first year since they left Egypt.

To count the days we will add the following: Remember they left Egypt on the fiftenth day of the first month of the first year. Therefore, from the day they left Egypt until they crossed the Jordan river, on the tenth day of the first month of the forty-first year, 14,395 days elapsed. This is five days short of forty full years. Five days later they celebrated passover in the land, and the supply of manna from Heaven stopped. Now Remember that the first day the cloud of God's glory lifted, and the Hebrews began their wandering through the desert was: the twentieth day of the second month, in the second year...Num. 10:11 as discussed in the above paragraph. That special day was 395 days after they left Egypt. Therefore, from the day they first set out following the cloud of the Glory of God through the wilderness, until the people crossed the Jordan river, exactly 14,000 days elapsed (14,395 - 395 = 14,000).

ARE THE TIMES OF THE GENTILES OVER?

Jesus said, that the times of the Gentiles would be over, when the Jewish people once again ruled Jerusalem.

...And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down by Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled. Luke 21:24

Jesus said, that when Jerusalem would be destroyed, the Jews would be taken away as captives into all the nations of the world. This has surely been the case. We know from history that the Romans took the surviving Jews as slaves into many other nations. The second part of the prophesy is also true, Jerusalem was ruled by gentile nations continuously from the times of the Romans until June 7th, 1967 when the Israel recaptured the city. Many Christians are coming to believe that when Jewish people once again ruled over Jerusalem, that this was the sign that marked the beginning of the last-days generation.

HAS THE LAST-DAYS GENERATION ALREADY BEGUN?

We now know that there are at least two portions of Holy Scripture that show us a generation lasts 14,000 days or 2000 weeks. I believe that this should conclusively prove the length of a Biblical generation, because Jesus said 'every matter may be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses.' Now back to considering the Last-days generation. If one adds 14,000 days to June 7, 1967, the day Israel again controlled Jerusalem after 2000 years. What is discovered seems truly amazing. The 14,000th day lands on Tuesday October 4th, 2005. This day is Rosh Hashanah for the year 2005. I sincerely believe that it is not just a coincidence that the 14,000th day is Rosh Hashanah. From our studies, we have seen that Rosh Hashanah, and the other Fall feasts seem to teach about the return of Jesus Christ. Now, there may be reason to believe that Rosh Hashanah, the Day of Attonement, and Tabernacles 2005 might be a special season on God' Holy day calendar.

NOTHING IN THIS BIBLE STUDY SHOULD BE CONSTURED TO SAY THAT JESUS IS RETURNING THIS OCTOBER. I don't believe that we can know these things right now with absolute certainty. However, I do believe that we will be given wisdom and revelation from God as the time approaches, because God has always given His people advance knowledge of the future. For example, Noah was told that a flood was coming, and as the time approached God gave him seven days notice.

"Seven days from now I will send rain on the earth..."

Both Abraham and Lot were told in advance of the destruction of Sodom. Besides these, there are many other stories in which the people of God were warned in time to escape coming destruction. From these examples, I would expect Gods people ( those who are doing what He commanded and actually watching, waiting, and praying) To have individual revalation, and wisdom from the Holy Spirit about Jesus' coming possibly one day to one week ahead of time.

SEE MORE AT:
http://www.angelfire.com/tx/eternalhome101/jesus.html

Anonymous said...

Could it be this (Feast of the Trumpets, Rosh Hashana, 10/4/05) will mark the beginning of the sequence of the 7 trumpets of the Revelation?

8:5 And the angel took the censer, and filled it with fire of the altar, and cast it into the earth: and there were voices, and thunderings, and lightnings, and an earthquake.

8:6 And the seven angels which had the seven trumpets prepared themselves to sound.

8:7 The first angel sounded, and there followed hail and fire mingled with blood, and they were cast upon the earth: and the third part of trees was burnt up, and all green grass was burnt up.

Verse 5 says that before the trumpets are sounded the angel casts fire from the alter into the earth and disturbances of nature occur - thunderings, lightnings, and "an earthquake"; and also "voices" (?). It has been almost universally recognized now that disturbances of nature have been steadily increasing in frequency, and perhaps severity, over the past recent decades. (Could "voices" be the intensifying idealogical strife and division of the human race?)

Will a singularly massive earthquake occur? If so, it would seem these things should alert us that the fire of the alter has been cast into the earth, and so, (vrs. 6) the angels are preparing to sound. When the angels are prepared and the the first trumpet is sounded: (vrs 7) the result will be "hail and fire mingled with blood, leading to the loss of a third part of vegetation.

It seems, according to verse 5, a major earthquake will be the signal.

On a side note, even before Katrina happened, there was buzz on the internet that leave for all U.S. military was to be cancelled beginning 7-7 for at least 3 months. ??

Anonymous said...

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Anonymous said...

http://tinyurl.com/9ykmz

I made a tiny url out a much longer one that will take you to the Amazon editorial reviews of False Dawn by Lee Penn. The United Religions Initiative about which he writes can be found at
http://www.uri.org/

Hopefully this will encourage some to write more here about the movement.

Anonymous said...

http://cathcon.blogspot.com/200509/skull-worship.html

Lee Penn, author of False Dawn gave this link to

http://carrietomko.blogspot.com/

You might want to check out both links. New Age thinking has been infiltrated into all religions. It has not gone away.

Has the thinking influenced your church yet? Don't say no too easily.

David Moore said...

Oh, I would not quickly say "no" that the new age influences churches. Frankly, I view the influence as pervasive and an up-hill battle. From everyday language (formal and slang), education, government, technology, commercials, music, you name it we are bombarded by new age philosphy and thinking. We're in the information age, how do you escape what is all over. It's like trying to run away from empty space--to run from it, you need SPACE to run IN. Or we're in it up to our eyeballs.

However, the presence of the Spirit of God is made ever present in the praises of his people, and by whom God is sought. This is the true fulfilling counter to new age and eastern mysticism. But that's just it, not ENOUGH worship today. And by worship I mean private time with God, reading the Word (not just writings by other Christians/ministers), meaningful prayer time and devotion. THIS is lacking today and is the primary reason for the "spiritual awakening" that is happening, but not for the better. I'm referring to the new age awakening that is happening--hence this claim of t he advent of the Age of Aquarius.

It's all about cries of the heart. While there is an intellectualism to faith in Christ, there is the spirituality that we must establish and maintain in our lives through time spent in secret with God--in the Word and in Prayer regularly. The love and the depth of the love that is in the triune nature of God (the love of the Father for the Son, the Son for the Father, the Father and the Sons love for the Spirit, and vice versa) is self-sufficient and sufficient for you and me.

On the other hand, today we find that these new/younger Christians (I'm referring to the spiritual maturity) that do not spend important quality time with the God, they find themselves seeking out spiritual fulfillment in other things. For example, these vacuous mumbo jumbo nonsense new agey writers that are a dime a dozen in Barnes & Nobles and Borders bookstores all over America. All of which have a disproportionate number of references to "self". I find well meaning Christians (I guess) grabbing books by Edgar Cayce, David Icke, Dianne Virtue, etc. And this new thing called "The Four Agreements" by Miguel Ruiz. Crap! And a lot of it basically says that there is some deep IMPERSONAL divinity (ha!) inside each and every one of us that we must bring out. Hogwash! God said through the prophet Jeremiah, that the heart is evil and desperately wicked who can know it? (Jer. 17:9)

I can't remember where or from whom I heard this, but these words come to mind about new agers and their beliefs: "Lies, I tell you lies!" LOL

David
Maranatha

Anonymous said...

From the first time I started learning on my own what was happening in the world rather than just being told what was happening, I've tried to see from a human standpoint what has drawn others to their understandings of the world around them.

You can't change someone's belief system without first knowing why they are attracted to it. We may never get a full picture of who is putting on the New Age show, but as members of the audience we can analyze what is happening on stage or just go along with the flow. I prefer to analyze.

Faith and hope are two strong necessities for people, particularly when the world around them gets difficult. If someone has enough experience with monotheism to have faith, hope will follow. Unfortunately faith in Judaism and Christianity has been undermined by various cultural forces. Without faith, hope there has no foundation.

New Age practices offer the hope of being able to control one's surroundings and future. New Age practices have been sold on the basis of faith in science, or what followers are told is science. It's why science and theology are being promoted hand in hand. You need an understanding of this to know what New Age thinking is. From the "science of energy" being promoted by New Age alternative health practices, to Templeton's kind of work which has going on for several decades, start your understanding of how New Age captures its audience.

The manipulation of men's minds is pretty much down to a science that others are using for control.

Anonymous said...

Constance,
I pray your trials may all work together for God's will for you, which is for your good.

(we do not live for this world. I suspect that God must get us ready to deny this world. Elsewise, if the choice were suddenly placed before us, we might not know to choose the good and eschew the evil.)

For everyone:
Here is a website devoted to how the US fits into scriptural teachings and prophecy.

Watch and pray. Seek wisdom.

1st John:
2:15 Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.
2:16 For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.
2:17 And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever.
2:18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.

Anonymous said...

Oops, sorry. Here is the website on America:

http://www.escapebabylonsdemons.com/

Anonymous said...

There is a danger in putting credence into the speculations of others without a good grounding in facts. While doing a search on Constance's name thru Google, I came across the following:

"These stopped clocks are a glut on the market about every ten years. Any fledgling prophecy expert can pick one up cheap. Clean it, install new springs, wind it, make a few modifications in a discarded prophecy chart, and you're in business! Example: as soon as Salem Kirban retired, Constance Cumbey appeared.

(I give little credence to the rumor that "Constance E. Cumbey" is the pen name adopted by Mr. Kirban in 1983. I also have real doubts about, the rumor that the woman who claims to be Mrs. Cumbey is in fact a professional actress hired by Mr. Kirban to make occasional public appearances. Nevertheless, it is remarkable that Mr. Kirban's name appeared on no new books after 1982, the year before Mrs. Cumbey's Hidden Dangers of the Rainbow appeared. Could this be more than a coincidence? It is also strange that "Mrs. Cumbey" seems to have disappeared from public view ever since the second book with her name on it failed to make it into Christian bookstores. 1s it possible that "Mrs. Cumbey" was fired by Mr. Kirban when the book royalties faded to a trickle and there was no further demand for her public appearances? I realize that all this may sound a bit implausible to most people, but perhaps not to someone who has accepted the thesis of "Mrs. Cumbey's" A Planned Decepion: The Staging of a New Age "Messiah." If a "Messiah" can be staged, so can a previously unknown lady researcher fi-om Detroit. The "Messiah" has not yet appeared, and "Constance Cumbey" has now disappeared from public view. Messiahs apparently come and go without much warning - indeed, without ever even appearing in public; so do those who expose them, although this takes a bit longer.)"

Source:
"False Prophecies for Fun and Profit
By Gary North

This originally appeared as a portion of the foreword to The Beast of Revelation by Kenneth Gentry. (1994) The entire foreword and the entire book is well worth reading."

So here it is ten years later. Constance is still in the public eye and reachable. Summarizing the effort made over the years to marginalize Constance's research would make a book by itself. I posted this example to warn others about loose speculation.

Anonymous said...

I was reading an article that was linked from Herb's web site called "Neocons New Strategy for Europe". What struck me was the admission that the neoconservatives were seeking the help of the Pope to persuade the masses. I have not seen any comment on this, am I reading more into it than perhaps is warranted?

www.voltairenet.org/article129038.html
The following is a clip from the article.

In addition, so as to convince the European people of what politicians have not been able to impose on them, the neoconservatives are now turning to Pope Benedict XVI and the Catholic Church. The leaders of the US Episcopal Conference and the Episcopate Commission of the European Union met in Brussels, from September 21st to the 23rd, to express their support of the “New Transatlantic Agenda”.
Thanks for your comments.
Renee

Anonymous said...

Renee,
Voltairenet opinions are highly anti-American/anti-Israel. See their front page for proof of their bias. The answer is VERIFY!

Anonymous said...

Someday there is going to be a huge rainstorm so we must be ready for his second coming.

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